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San Diego Joe

04/03/2005 4:38 PM

Designing a bed

I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred to
me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed still
have a box spring, or just the mattress?

Any other useful information will be much appreciated.

--
San Diego Joe


This topic has 16 replies

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

05/03/2005 1:26 AM

In article <1109983110.ac6987af9de5995eedcfa302d58dd5c8@teranews>,
San Diego Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred to
>me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed still
>have a box spring, or just the mattress?

Authoritative answer: "Yes".

depends on the design.

box spring + mattress means drawers end up relatively shallow and low to the
floor.

"Captains bed" type eliminates the box-spring for storage. and a very firm
sleep support.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

05/03/2005 12:47 AM

In article <1109983110.ac6987af9de5995eedcfa302d58dd5c8@teranews>, San Diego Joe <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred to
>me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed still
>have a box spring, or just the mattress?

Depends on how high above the floor you wish the top of the mattress to be.

If you want a fairly low profile, then omit the box spring - but you will need
to have a solid platform to lay the mattress on. If a higher profile is
acceptable, then use a box spring - and you need only a frame and slats to
support it.

May depend on the type of mattress, too. I believe some are intended for use
only with a box spring, and others not.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

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Andy Dingley

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

05/03/2005 1:03 AM

It was somewhere outside Barstow when San Diego Joe <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm designing a bed

Read this month's Fine Woodworking

JJ

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

04/03/2005 10:15 PM

Fri, Mar 4, 2005, 4:38pm (EST-3) [email protected] (San=A0Diego=A0Joe)
claims:
I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred
to me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed
still have a box spring, or just the mattress?
Any other useful information will be much appreciated.

What useful information? You want it to have a box spring, do it.
If you don't, don't. That/s your call, not any of ours.



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

05/03/2005 6:25 AM

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:38:19 -0800, San Diego Joe <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred to
>me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed still
>have a box spring, or just the mattress?
>
>Any other useful information will be much appreciated.


BED SIZES

Twin = 39 x 75.
Twin XL = 39 x 80.
3/4 Size = 47 1/2 x 75.
Full = 53 x 75.
Full XL = 53 x 80.
Queen = 60 x 80.
Super Queen = 66 x 80.
California King = 72 x 84.
King = 76 x 80.


Thomas J. Watson - WoodDorker

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

sa

"stoutman"

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

05/03/2005 2:16 AM

Not in current issue. It was in the previous issue.


"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It was somewhere outside Barstow when San Diego Joe <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm designing a bed
>
> Read this month's Fine Woodworking
>

CS

"Charles Spitzer"

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

04/03/2005 5:42 PM

the frame holding the drawers together IS the box spring.

look at water beds, for instance.

"San Diego Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1109983110.ac6987af9de5995eedcfa302d58dd5c8@teranews...
> I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred to
> me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed
> still
> have a box spring, or just the mattress?
>
> Any other useful information will be much appreciated.
>
> --
> San Diego Joe
>

RC

Rick Cook

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

05/03/2005 8:07 AM

San Diego Joe wrote:
> I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred to
> me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed still
> have a box spring, or just the mattress?
>
> Any other useful information will be much appreciated.
>
In our case it's got a waterbed mattress. The bottom is 3/4 plywood (was
MDF -- bad idea. Leaks damage plywood and destroy MDF. DAMHIKT) It's
supported by the frame and the sides and backs of the drawer components.
(Not the drawers themselves. The parts that would be the chest if it was
free-standing.)

--RC

Ms

Mike

in reply to San Diego Joe on 04/03/2005 4:38 PM

04/03/2005 10:02 PM

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:38:19 -0800, San Diego Joe <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm designing a bed that is to have drawers under it. It never occurred to
>me until I put pencil to paper (well mouse to CAD), but would the bed still
>have a box spring, or just the mattress?
>
>Any other useful information will be much appreciated.

The only thing I would suggest is check the warranty on your mattress
as some require a box spring.
Other than that it's just a matter of height. I have a friend who had
a similar bed frame for a water bed. He later went to a mattress but
with a box spring his wife (she's 4' 10") had a difficult time getting
into the bed. They ended up eliminating the box spring altogether.

Mike

Ms

Mike

in reply to Mike on 04/03/2005 10:02 PM

05/03/2005 5:20 PM

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 01:44:50 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>>with a box spring his wife (she's 4' 10") had a difficult time getting
>>into the bed. They ended up eliminating the box spring altogether.
>>
> Shoulda made her a step.

Her husband is a carpenter...... so that was out of the question. :-)

> I'm working on designing a bed too, the mechanics were easy to
>figure out, no prob there. It's gonna be tall enough (at mattress top -
>n

I've only built one bed and enjoyed doing it. As you say the
mechanics are simple and it's fun project.
The biggest thing I learned is that once you build the bed, you get to
build an armoire and two dressers to match.<g>

Mike O.


JJ

in reply to Mike on 04/03/2005 10:02 PM

05/03/2005 1:44 AM

Fri, Mar 4, 2005, 10:02pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Mike) sez:
<snip> Other than that it's just a matter of height. I have a friend who
had a similar bed frame for a water bed. He later went to a mattress but
with a box spring his wife (she's 4' 10") had a difficult time getting
into the bed. They ended up eliminating the box spring altogether.

Shoulda made her a step.

I'm working on designing a bed too, the mechanics were easy to
figure out, no prob there. It's gonna be tall enough (at mattress top -
no box spring) so I can just sorta slide over the edge and be standing.
I just haven't decided on the end design yet. So, I'm doing homework,
and looking at different designs, borrowing something from different
ones. I'm kinda thinking something Viking looking, corner posts,
massive looking, very solid, using 2X12s, maybe some 4X4s. I'm quite
interested in finding out what I'll come up with.



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Mike on 04/03/2005 10:02 PM

05/03/2005 7:37 PM

"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> The biggest thing I learned is that once you build the bed, you get to
> build an armoire and two dressers to match.<g>

I'll assume that obligation is for the married or living with someone
people.

sa

"stoutman"

in reply to Mike on 04/03/2005 10:02 PM

05/03/2005 3:24 PM

> I'm quite interested in finding out what I'll come up with.

Doesn't sound like you will be coming up with it if you are "looking at
different designs, borrowing something from different ones."





"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fri, Mar 4, 2005, 10:02pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Mike) sez:
> <snip> Other than that it's just a matter of height. I have a friend who
> had a similar bed frame for a water bed. He later went to a mattress but
> with a box spring his wife (she's 4' 10") had a difficult time getting
> into the bed. They ended up eliminating the box spring altogether.
>
> Shoulda made her a step.
>
> I'm working on designing a bed too, the mechanics were easy to
> figure out, no prob there. It's gonna be tall enough (at mattress top -
> no box spring) so I can just sorta slide over the edge and be standing.
> I just haven't decided on the end design yet. So, I'm doing homework,
> and looking at different designs, borrowing something from different
> ones. I'm kinda thinking something Viking looking, corner posts,
> massive looking, very solid, using 2X12s, maybe some 4X4s. I'm quite
> interested in finding out what I'll come up with.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
> - David Fasold
>

JJ

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 3:24 PM

05/03/2005 3:34 PM

Sat, Mar 5, 2005, 3:24pm (EST+5) [email protected] (stoutman) burbled:
Doesn't sound like you will be coming up with it if you are "looking at
different designs, borrowing something from different ones."

That's called "inspiration". Anyway, let's see you come up with
something that hasn't been done before.



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

sa

"stoutman"

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 3:24 PM

05/03/2005 9:39 PM

Come on Jack, that was said tongue in cheek. :)




"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sat, Mar 5, 2005, 3:24pm (EST+5) [email protected] (stoutman) burbled:
> Doesn't sound like you will be coming up with it if you are "looking at
> different designs, borrowing something from different ones."
>
> That's called "inspiration". Anyway, let's see you come up with
> something that hasn't been done before.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
> - David Fasold
>

JJ

in reply to "stoutman" on 05/03/2005 9:39 PM

05/03/2005 6:10 PM

Sat, Mar 5, 2005, 9:39pm (EST+5) [email protected] (stoutman) enlightens me with:
Come on Jack, that was said tongue in cheek. =A0 :)

Ah crap, that's what comes of thinking when I'm here, went
completely over my head..



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold


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