TT

"Toller"

25/11/2005 2:42 AM

Maintenance on a Bosch 1617?

After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion? Boeshield?

Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the hassle
of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had a switch.
Well, now it won't turn on at all, so I wired around the switch. It works
okay, but I wonder if the switches are available at a modest price anywhere.
I expect Bosch charges about the same for the switch as the router.


This topic has 16 replies

wd

"woodarama"

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 3:47 AM

Toller wrote:
> After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
> adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
> Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion? Boeshield?
>
> Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
> Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
> because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the hassle
> of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had a switch.
> Well, now it won't turn on at all, so I wired around the switch. It works
> okay, but I wonder if the switches are available at a modest price anywhere.
> I expect Bosch charges about the same for the switch as the router.

i have a 1617 that had pretty bad corrosion on the mag housing.i
contacted the bosch national repair cener in nj and they agreed to fix
it even though i had it for 3-4 yrs.turn around was about a week.the
router came back with a new aluminum housing and i think a new switch
although i never experienced a switch problem.total charge $0.00,just
my cost to ship it to them.i would recommend contacting
them.http://www.boschtools.com/product-services/contact-us/

Tt

"TomM"

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

26/11/2005 3:13 PM

If anyone hates their 1617 and want to call it quits.... I'll buy a
plunge base at a reasonable price.

Tom

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

24/11/2005 10:37 PM

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:59:05 GMT, Michael White <[email protected]>
wrote:

... snip
> Plus
>the fixed base never centers, even after buying the centering tool. I
>always have to center it manually, even after Bosch said they fixed it.
>

How do you do that? I have a 1613 that is off-center and it is driving
me nuts. I haven't seen any way to make any adjustments short of making my
own base.

>You can probably call Bosch for the switches and explain what you've gone
>through. Maybe they'll send you one or both for free. I doubt that
>they're going to be "normal" switches.

I've have some luck with Bosch. The plastic shield on the 1613 broke and
they sent me one (either for nothing, or very low cost, I know I was not at
all unhappy with what they provided)



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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

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MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

27/11/2005 10:16 PM

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:22:49 GMT, Michael White <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:59:05 GMT, Michael White <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ... snip
>>> Plus
>>>the fixed base never centers, even after buying the centering tool. I
>>>always have to center it manually, even after Bosch said they fixed it.
>>>
>>
>> How do you do that? I have a 1613 that is off-center and it is driving
>> me nuts. I haven't seen any way to make any adjustments short of making
>> my own base.
>
>I don't know how the 1613 base works, but the screws in the 1617 base can go
>into one of two positions. The first (very) roughly centers the base. The
>second allows the base to be adjusted manually. I basically put the screws
>in the second position, and just iteratively refine the position.

Thanks, I'll have a look to see if there's any hope there.



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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

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TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

02/12/2005 12:20 AM

I followed someone's suggestion and contacted Bosch. They are sending me
out a switch.

MW

Michael White

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

28/11/2005 1:22 AM

Mark & Juanita wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:59:05 GMT, Michael White <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ... snip
>> Plus
>>the fixed base never centers, even after buying the centering tool. I
>>always have to center it manually, even after Bosch said they fixed it.
>>
>
> How do you do that? I have a 1613 that is off-center and it is driving
> me nuts. I haven't seen any way to make any adjustments short of making
> my own base.

I don't know how the 1613 base works, but the screws in the 1617 base can go
into one of two positions. The first (very) roughly centers the base. The
second allows the base to be adjusted manually. I basically put the screws
in the second position, and just iteratively refine the position.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 4:49 PM


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
> adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
> Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion?
> Boeshield?
>
> Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
> Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
> because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the hassle
> of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had a
> switch. Well, now it won't turn on at all, so I wired around the switch.
> It works okay, but I wonder if the switches are available at a modest
> price anywhere. I expect Bosch charges about the same for the switch as
> the router.

Look here and at part number 4. they cost $8.00 each
http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/noframes.cgi/bosch/1617EVS.739



MW

Michael White

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 2:59 AM

Toller wrote:

> After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
> adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
> Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion?
> Boeshield?
>
> Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
> Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
> because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the hassle
> of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had a
> switch.
> Well, now it won't turn on at all, so I wired around the switch. It works
> okay, but I wonder if the switches are available at a modest price
> anywhere. I expect Bosch charges about the same for the switch as the
> router.

Toller,

I haven't been overly-impressed with the my 1617. My switch also went bad,
but I called up Bosch to find a local shop that -would- repair it. Plus
the fixed base never centers, even after buying the centering tool. I
always have to center it manually, even after Bosch said they fixed it.

You can probably call Bosch for the switches and explain what you've gone
through. Maybe they'll send you one or both for free. I doubt that
they're going to be "normal" switches.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

02/12/2005 2:13 AM

Toller wrote:
> I followed someone's suggestion and contacted Bosch. They are sending me
> out a switch.


SFWIW, I have found that working directly with a factory service center
provides the best results.

That applies to Bosch, DeWalt, Milwaukee, and Porter-Cable who all have
factory centers within 35 miles.

After all, if a concession is going to be made, they have the deepest
pockets.

Lew

Tt

"Tyke"

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 8:44 AM

I have used Boeshild on my 1617, but it slows down the oxidation rather than
preventing. I may try the paste wax someone else recommended.

I think the switch is a design flaw, considering so many people have the
same problem. Mine would be a problem if I used it. I have the 1617 in a
table and use an external switch leaving the 1617 switch permanently on. If
I accidentally use the switch on the 1617 I have to fart around to get it to
work again.

Sears is now selling what looks like a very similar router.

Other than the corrosion and switch, the unit has worked well and always
been installed in the table. The collet end main bearing started to squeak
during rundown. I have attempted to lubricate, but if this does not work, I
expect to be looking for a new router.

The new Triton 2+ HP unit look interesting mostly because I may be able to
achieve higher bit settings when mounted in the table.

Dave Paine.

"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
> adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
> Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion?
> Boeshield?
>
> Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
> Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
> because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the hassle
> of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had a
> switch. Well, now it won't turn on at all, so I wired around the switch.
> It works okay, but I wonder if the switches are available at a modest
> price anywhere. I expect Bosch charges about the same for the switch as
> the router.
>

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 9:37 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
>> adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
>> Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion?
>> Boeshield?
>>
>> Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
>> Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
>> because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the
>> hassle of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had
>> a switch. Well, now it won't turn on at all, so I wired around the
>> switch. It works okay, but I wonder if the switches are available at a
>> modest price anywhere. I expect Bosch charges about the same for the
>> switch as the router.
>
> Look here and at part number 4. they cost $8.00 each
> http://www.toolpartsdirect.com/cgi-bin/noframes.cgi/bosch/1617EVS.739
>
>
Thanks, that's reasonable enough.

j

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 7:36 PM

I paste wax the inside of the base AND the outside of the router body
and had NOT had any corrosion problems in the past 4-5yrs after seeing
the body discolor and "corrode". I now do this with ALL my Bosch
router

John

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:42:23 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
>adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
>Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion? Boeshield?
>
>Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
>Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
>because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the hassle
>of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had a switch.
>Well, now it won't turn on at all, so I wired around the switch. It works
>okay, but I wonder if the switches are available at a modest price anywhere.
>I expect Bosch charges about the same for the switch as the router.
>

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

26/11/2005 4:24 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I paste wax the inside of the base AND the outside of the router body
> and had NOT had any corrosion problems in the past 4-5yrs after seeing
> the body discolor and "corrode". I now do this with ALL my Bosch
> router
>
Since mine have gotten really cruddy in a year, I guess I will follow your
lead. Thanks.

j

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

26/11/2005 3:30 AM

If your Bosch is one of the Magnesium bodied routers, I understand
that Bosch has stopped using magnesium - most likely for just this
reason. Call Bosch tech support and see what they say, I have heard
of at least one person sending theirs in and getting it back with the
current aluminum housing installed

John

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 04:24:54 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>I paste wax the inside of the base AND the outside of the router body
>> and had NOT had any corrosion problems in the past 4-5yrs after seeing
>> the body discolor and "corrode". I now do this with ALL my Bosch
>> router
>>
>Since mine have gotten really cruddy in a year, I guess I will follow your
>lead. Thanks.
>

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 12:53 PM

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:42:23 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
>adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
>Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion?

Is your table MDF?

My 1617's only corrode if I leave them inside my MDF table, making me
wonder if there's some sort of chemical reaction. Different examples
of the same model router stored 3 feet away in a rollaway haven't
corroded.

Plain old paste wax has cured the problem for me.

Barry

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "Toller" on 25/11/2005 2:42 AM

25/11/2005 3:07 AM

Toller wrote:
> After being in a router table for two years it was getting difficult to
> adjust. I pulled it out and cleaned off some corrosion with steel wool.
> Its much better now. Any idea on how to prevent the corrosion? Boeshield?
>
> Also... the switch broke; it took about 50 tries to get it to run.
> Although it was under warranty, the local repair shop wouldn't fix it
> because I bought it over the internet. Bosch would fix it, but the hassle
> of sending it to them was too much considering that the table had a switch.


Do a Google using bosch+service+center to locate the bosch service
center locator.

May cost you a phone call but that should be NBD.

Lew


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