Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
into a small antique mall to walk around a bit. Back in a corner
booth, I found a small framing square hanging on the wall, marked
$1.95. It looked like a handy item, being somewhat smaller than the
standard framing square, but larger than the typical small woodworking
square. It had a blade 18 inches long by an 1 1/2 inches, and a
tongue 12 inches by 1 inch. Very simple markings... sixteenths on the
outside, quarter inches on the inside. The maker was marked simply
"Sargent." It was slightly thicker at the angle, and had a pleasant
patina.
I almost bought it on the spot, but figured it probably wouldn't be
accurate anymore, and got interested in buying a similar square new.
I looked all over, local hardware stores, ebay, and the web, but
couldn't find one! I went back and invested the buck ninety five, and
brought it home. It was a bit off, but I managed to fix it with the
old "hammer and punch on the floor" technique, and it now resides in a
prominent spot on my bench. Very handy for when the small squares
don't quite make it, and the standard framing square in just kinda big
and clunky...
No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
seen one of these?
On 5/27/2012 8:47 PM, Marty wrote:
> Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
> into a small antique mall to walk around a bit. Back in a corner
> booth, I found a small framing square hanging on the wall, marked
> $1.95. It looked like a handy item, being somewhat smaller than the
> standard framing square, but larger than the typical small woodworking
> square. It had a blade 18 inches long by an 1 1/2 inches, and a
> tongue 12 inches by 1 inch. Very simple markings... sixteenths on the
> outside, quarter inches on the inside. The maker was marked simply
> "Sargent." It was slightly thicker at the angle, and had a pleasant
> patina.
> I almost bought it on the spot, but figured it probably wouldn't be
> accurate anymore, and got interested in buying a similar square new.
> I looked all over, local hardware stores, ebay, and the web, but
> couldn't find one! I went back and invested the buck ninety five, and
> brought it home. It was a bit off, but I managed to fix it with the
> old "hammer and punch on the floor" technique, and it now resides in a
> prominent spot on my bench. Very handy for when the small squares
> don't quite make it, and the standard framing square in just kinda big
> and clunky...
> No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
> seen one of these?
You suck ... many of those vintage framing squares, and Sargent was a
good one, go for $40 to $200, so you did good!
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 05:49:53 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On May 30, 9:30 am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Marty wrote:
>> > No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
>> > seen one of these?
>>
>> Sounds like you got a deal.
>>
>> Best I could come up with is a HF framing square, 16x24 (for $9.95) and five
>> minutes with a metal-cutting band saw or angle grinder.
>
>LOL. Reason #16 for buying new tools (bandsaw and/or angle
>grinder): Modify a previous purchase.
So who needs a metal-cutting bandsaw? I have one which needs a
bushing for the drive wheel. $45, you pick up in So. Oregon.
I bought a Satanley 8x12" square at HF for $5.99 last year.
Chromed and actually square.
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On May 30, 9:30=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Marty wrote:
> > No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
> > seen one of these?
>
> Sounds like you got a deal.
>
> Best I could come up with is a HF framing square, 16x24 (for $9.95) and f=
ive
> minutes with a metal-cutting band saw or angle grinder.
LOL. Reason #16 for buying new tools (bandsaw and/or angle
grinder): Modify a previous purchase.
Sonny
On May 28, 9:40=A0am, [email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]=
.com>,
>
> Marty =A0<[email protected]> wrote:
> >Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
> >into a small antique mall to walk around a bit. =A0Back in a corner
> >booth, I found a small framing square hanging on the wall, marked
> >$1.95. =A0It looked like a handy item, being somewhat smaller than the
> >standard framing square, but larger than the typical small woodworking
> >square. =A0It had a blade 18 inches long by an 1 1/2 inches, and a
> >tongue 12 inches by 1 inch.
> <...snipped...>
> >No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
> >seen one of these?
>
> I have one about that same size. I can't check it right now but it is
> also a Sargent, I believe, and I probably picked it up at a yard sale. I
> don't think a new one should be particularly hard to find. AAMOF,
> pretty sure I've seen comparable size at HF. Here's an Empire sold
> by Amazon, they refer to it as a "Carpenter's Square"
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Level-1010-Carpenter-12-Inch/dp/B001BRDR...
>
> --
> =A0 =A0 =A0Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonesta=
r.org
There y'go... If I'd seen that before I bought mine, I woulda bought
one. I love using old tools, but especially for "marking out" tools,
precision trumps emotion. Maybe Amazon oughta give you a kickback for
posting that. :) It's a really handy sized square if you're building
something bigger than a bookend and smaller than a house.
On 5/28/2012 12:57 PM, Marty wrote:
> On May 28, 9:40 am, [email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
>> In article<85e0c938-ca5c-45ef-89f8-1c85addb1...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> Marty<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
>>> into a small antique mall to walk around a bit. Back in a corner
>>> booth, I found a small framing square hanging on the wall, marked
>>> $1.95. It looked like a handy item, being somewhat smaller than the
>>> standard framing square, but larger than the typical small woodworking
>>> square. It had a blade 18 inches long by an 1 1/2 inches, and a
>>> tongue 12 inches by 1 inch.
>> <...snipped...>
>>> No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
>>> seen one of these?
>>
>> I have one about that same size. I can't check it right now but it is
>> also a Sargent, I believe, and I probably picked it up at a yard sale. I
>> don't think a new one should be particularly hard to find. AAMOF,
>> pretty sure I've seen comparable size at HF. Here's an Empire sold
>> by Amazon, they refer to it as a "Carpenter's Square"
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Level-1010-Carpenter-12-Inch/dp/B001BRDR...
>>
>> --
>> Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.
>>
>> Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org
>
> There y'go... If I'd seen that before I bought mine, I woulda bought
> one. I love using old tools, but especially for "marking out" tools,
> precision trumps emotion. Maybe Amazon oughta give you a kickback for
> posting that. :) It's a really handy sized square if you're building
> something bigger than a bookend and smaller than a house.
Yabbut, it just doesn't have that certain cachet of using a vintage
tool, from an old American company, found and bought at a good price:
http://www.thckk.org/history/sargent.pdf
http://www.rostratool.com/pdf/SargentCarpenterTools.pdf
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:37:51 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
>> into a small antique mall to walk around a bit.
>You suck ... many of those vintage framing squares, and Sargent was a
>good one, go for $40 to $200, so you did good!
Guess he should deprive himself of sleep more often. :)
On May 28, 1:10=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 12:57 PM, Marty wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 28, 9:40 am, [email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
> >> In article<[email protected]=
ps.com>,
>
> >> Marty<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >>> Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
> >>> into a small antique mall to walk around a bit. =A0Back in a corner
> >>> booth, I found a small framing square hanging on the wall, marked
> >>> $1.95. =A0It looked like a handy item, being somewhat smaller than th=
e
> >>> standard framing square, but larger than the typical small woodworkin=
g
> >>> square. =A0It had a blade 18 inches long by an 1 1/2 inches, and a
> >>> tongue 12 inches by 1 inch.
> >> <...snipped...>
> >>> No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
> >>> seen one of these?
>
> >> I have one about that same size. I can't check it right now but it is
> >> also a Sargent, I believe, and I probably picked it up at a yard sale.=
I
> >> don't think a new one should be particularly hard to find. AAMOF,
> >> pretty sure I've seen comparable size at HF. Here's an Empire sold
> >> by Amazon, they refer to it as a "Carpenter's Square"
>
> >>http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Level-1010-Carpenter-12-Inch/dp/B001BRDR..=
.
>
> >> --
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.
>
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lon=
estar.org
>
> > There y'go... =A0If I'd seen that before I bought mine, I woulda bought
> > one. I love using old tools, but especially for "marking out" tools,
> > precision trumps emotion. =A0Maybe Amazon oughta give you a kickback fo=
r
> > posting that. =A0:) =A0It's a really handy sized square if you're build=
ing
> > something bigger than a bookend and smaller than a house.
>
> Yabbut, it just doesn't have that certain cachet of using a vintage
> tool, from an old American company, found and bought at a good price:
>
> http://www.thckk.org/history/sargent.pdf
>
> http://www.rostratool.com/pdf/SargentCarpenterTools.pdf
>
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True, I've got a number of old tools with my Grandfather's initials
stamped on 'em. Somehow, I love using those.
In article <85e0c938-ca5c-45ef-89f8-1c85addb171a@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
Marty <[email protected]> wrote:
>Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
>into a small antique mall to walk around a bit. Back in a corner
>booth, I found a small framing square hanging on the wall, marked
>$1.95. It looked like a handy item, being somewhat smaller than the
>standard framing square, but larger than the typical small woodworking
>square. It had a blade 18 inches long by an 1 1/2 inches, and a
>tongue 12 inches by 1 inch.
<...snipped...>
>No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
>seen one of these?
I have one about that same size. I can't check it right now but it is
also a Sargent, I believe, and I probably picked it up at a yard sale. I
don't think a new one should be particularly hard to find. AAMOF,
pretty sure I've seen comparable size at HF. Here's an Empire sold
by Amazon, they refer to it as a "Carpenter's Square"
http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Level-1010-Carpenter-12-Inch/dp/B001BRDR56/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1338215960&sr=8-10
--
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Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org
In article <[email protected]>,
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/28/2012 12:57 PM, Marty wrote:
>> On May 28, 9:40 am, [email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
>>> In
>article<85e0c938-ca5c-45ef-89f8-1c85addb1...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
>>>
>>> Marty<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Being in danger of falling asleep driving home recently, I stopped
>>>> into a small antique mall to walk around a bit. Back in a corner
>>>> booth, I found a small framing square hanging on the wall, marked
>>>> $1.95. It looked like a handy item, being somewhat smaller than the
>>>> standard framing square, but larger than the typical small woodworking
>>>> square. It had a blade 18 inches long by an 1 1/2 inches, and a
>>>> tongue 12 inches by 1 inch.
>>> <...snipped...>
>>>> No, I'm sure it isn't a valuable antique, but have any of you guys
>>>> seen one of these?
>>>
>>> I have one about that same size. I can't check it right now but it is
>>> also a Sargent, I believe, and I probably picked it up at a yard sale. I
>>> don't think a new one should be particularly hard to find. AAMOF,
>>> pretty sure I've seen comparable size at HF. Here's an Empire sold
>>> by Amazon, they refer to it as a "Carpenter's Square"
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Level-1010-Carpenter-12-Inch/dp/B001BRDR...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.
>>>
>>> Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org
>>
>> There y'go... If I'd seen that before I bought mine, I woulda bought
>> one. I love using old tools, but especially for "marking out" tools,
>> precision trumps emotion. Maybe Amazon oughta give you a kickback for
>> posting that. :) It's a really handy sized square if you're building
>> something bigger than a bookend and smaller than a house.
>
>Yabbut, it just doesn't have that certain cachet of using a vintage
>tool, from an old American company, found and bought at a good price:
>
>http://www.thckk.org/history/sargent.pdf
>
>http://www.rostratool.com/pdf/SargentCarpenterTools.pdf
>
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Well, except for the "vintage" part, I'd say that Empire is respectable
enough within their product line. Family owned since 1919, employs 300
Americans at their plant.
http://www.empirelevel.com/company/index.php
www.empirelevel.com/company/pdf/fact-sheet.pdf
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