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OFWW

24/05/2018 6:49 PM

Guitars and Wood Working integrated.

Was double verifying Nut replacement on the neck for a Fender strat.

One old codger who has been a luthier of years mentioned that he used
a dab of Shellac on the neck instead of Glue, especially the instant
setting Synthetic stuff which I hate doing as it is so permanent and
it strips wood out of the groove for the nut, depending on the amount
used.

I thought. WOW. what a great idea and easy to "undo" or repair.

Then I thought about good old horse glue, even easier on the wood,
etc, than shellac, or so it would seem to me.

Has anyone here used either? With bone or synthetics?

I just replaced the nut and the two hold downs for strings 1-4 with
Tusq XL with integrated lube and WOW!


This topic has 6 replies

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OFWW

in reply to OFWW on 24/05/2018 6:49 PM

25/05/2018 2:34 PM

On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:08:22 -0700 (PDT), Rick the antique guy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:49:08 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
>> Was double verifying Nut replacement on the neck for a Fender strat.
>>
>> One old codger who has been a luthier of years mentioned that he used
>> a dab of Shellac on the neck instead of Glue, especially the instant
>> setting Synthetic stuff which I hate doing as it is so permanent and
>> it strips wood out of the groove for the nut, depending on the amount
>> used.
>>
>> I thought. WOW. what a great idea and easy to "undo" or repair.
>>
>> Then I thought about good old horse glue, even easier on the wood,
>> etc, than shellac, or so it would seem to me.
>>
>> Has anyone here used either? With bone or synthetics?
>>
>> I just replaced the nut and the two hold downs for strings 1-4 with
>> Tusq XL with integrated lube and WOW!
>
>Hi OFWW
> I Never used shellac for that but it sounds good and reasonable as long as 2 mating surfaces are flat. I use a small dab ot white Elmers , the cheap stuff.
>
>I also make a lot of replacement nuts and saddles from Cow Bone.
>Belt sand Some Bome scraps
>Save the bone dust in a small tin below your belt sander.
>Its handy for slot repairs when they are too deep.
> Mix it with epoxy and fill the slot. Let cure then re-cut the slot
>to a higher measurement . to avoid a buzz at fret #1
>rick B.

Never would have thought of that, interesting. How's the wear and the
tone affected.

Rt

Rick the antique guy

in reply to OFWW on 24/05/2018 6:49 PM

25/05/2018 9:32 PM

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:35:01 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:08:22 -0700 (PDT), Rick the antique guy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:49:08 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
> >> Was double verifying Nut replacement on the neck for a Fender strat.
> >>
> >> One old codger who has been a luthier of years mentioned that he used
> >> a dab of Shellac on the neck instead of Glue, especially the instant
> >> setting Synthetic stuff which I hate doing as it is so permanent and
> >> it strips wood out of the groove for the nut, depending on the amount
> >> used.
> >>
> >> I thought. WOW. what a great idea and easy to "undo" or repair.
> >>
> >> Then I thought about good old horse glue, even easier on the wood,
> >> etc, than shellac, or so it would seem to me.
> >>
> >> Has anyone here used either? With bone or synthetics?
> >>
> >> I just replaced the nut and the two hold downs for strings 1-4 with
> >> Tusq XL with integrated lube and WOW!
> >
> >Hi OFWW
> > I Never used shellac for that but it sounds good and reasonable as long as 2 mating surfaces are flat. I use a small dab ot white Elmers , the cheap stuff.
> >
> >I also make a lot of replacement nuts and saddles from Cow Bone.
> >Belt sand Some Bome scraps
> >Save the bone dust in a small tin below your belt sander.
> >Its handy for slot repairs when they are too deep.
> > Mix it with epoxy and fill the slot. Let cure then re-cut the slot
> >to a higher measurement . to avoid a buzz at fret #1
> >rick B.
>
> Never would have thought of that, interesting. How's the wear and the
> tone affected.

No tone dampening that I can detect .
The wear is a pretty good and relative to the epoxy strength. Some folks use superglue but I think it's too brittle.
It really is a Band Aid repair,
until You feel it's neccessary replace the nut.
rick B

Rt

Rick the antique guy

in reply to OFWW on 24/05/2018 6:49 PM

25/05/2018 7:08 AM

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:49:08 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
> Was double verifying Nut replacement on the neck for a Fender strat.
>
> One old codger who has been a luthier of years mentioned that he used
> a dab of Shellac on the neck instead of Glue, especially the instant
> setting Synthetic stuff which I hate doing as it is so permanent and
> it strips wood out of the groove for the nut, depending on the amount
> used.
>
> I thought. WOW. what a great idea and easy to "undo" or repair.
>
> Then I thought about good old horse glue, even easier on the wood,
> etc, than shellac, or so it would seem to me.
>
> Has anyone here used either? With bone or synthetics?
>
> I just replaced the nut and the two hold downs for strings 1-4 with
> Tusq XL with integrated lube and WOW!

Hi OFWW
I Never used shellac for that but it sounds good and reasonable as long as 2 mating surfaces are flat. I use a small dab ot white Elmers , the cheap stuff.

I also make a lot of replacement nuts and saddles from Cow Bone.
Belt sand Some Bome scraps
Save the bone dust in a small tin below your belt sander.
Its handy for slot repairs when they are too deep.
Mix it with epoxy and fill the slot. Let cure then re-cut the slot
to a higher measurement . to avoid a buzz at fret #1
rick B.

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in reply to OFWW on 24/05/2018 6:49 PM

24/05/2018 10:47 PM

On Thu, 24 May 2018 18:49:05 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Was double verifying Nut replacement on the neck for a Fender strat.
>One old codger who has been a luthier of years mentioned that he used
>a dab of Shellac on the neck instead of Glue, especially the instant
>setting Synthetic stuff which I hate doing as it is so permanent and
>it strips wood out of the groove for the nut, depending on the amount
>used.
>I thought. WOW. what a great idea and easy to "undo" or repair.
>Then I thought about good old horse glue, even easier on the wood,
>etc, than shellac, or so it would seem to me.
>Has anyone here used either? With bone or synthetics?
>I just replaced the nut and the two hold downs for strings 1-4 with
>Tusq XL with integrated lube and WOW!


I like to use a little snot-from-the-oven-door ..
it falls somewhere between CA and shellac
on the scale of adhesives.
John T.

Oo

OFWW

in reply to OFWW on 24/05/2018 6:49 PM

25/05/2018 2:23 PM

On Thu, 24 May 2018 22:47:40 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 24 May 2018 18:49:05 -0700, OFWW <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Was double verifying Nut replacement on the neck for a Fender strat.
>>One old codger who has been a luthier of years mentioned that he used
>>a dab of Shellac on the neck instead of Glue, especially the instant
>>setting Synthetic stuff which I hate doing as it is so permanent and
>>it strips wood out of the groove for the nut, depending on the amount
>>used.
>>I thought. WOW. what a great idea and easy to "undo" or repair.
>>Then I thought about good old horse glue, even easier on the wood,
>>etc, than shellac, or so it would seem to me.
>>Has anyone here used either? With bone or synthetics?
>>I just replaced the nut and the two hold downs for strings 1-4 with
>>Tusq XL with integrated lube and WOW!
>
>
>I like to use a little snot-from-the-oven-door ..
>it falls somewhere between CA and shellac
> on the scale of adhesives.
> John T.
>

I am assuming you mean splatter residue?

Mm

Markem

in reply to OFWW on 24/05/2018 6:49 PM

25/05/2018 11:53 AM

On Fri, 25 May 2018 07:08:22 -0700 (PDT), Rick the antique guy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 9:49:08 PM UTC-4, OFWW wrote:
>> Was double verifying Nut replacement on the neck for a Fender strat.
>>
>> One old codger who has been a luthier of years mentioned that he used
>> a dab of Shellac on the neck instead of Glue, especially the instant
>> setting Synthetic stuff which I hate doing as it is so permanent and
>> it strips wood out of the groove for the nut, depending on the amount
>> used.
>>
>> I thought. WOW. what a great idea and easy to "undo" or repair.
>>
>> Then I thought about good old horse glue, even easier on the wood,
>> etc, than shellac, or so it would seem to me.
>>
>> Has anyone here used either? With bone or synthetics?
>>
>> I just replaced the nut and the two hold downs for strings 1-4 with
>> Tusq XL with integrated lube and WOW!
>
>Hi OFWW
> I Never used shellac for that but it sounds good and reasonable as long as 2 mating surfaces are flat. I use a small dab ot white Elmers , the cheap stuff.
>
>I also make a lot of replacement nuts and saddles from Cow Bone.
>Belt sand Some Bome scraps
>Save the bone dust in a small tin below your belt sander.
>Its handy for slot repairs when they are too deep.
> Mix it with epoxy and fill the slot. Let cure then re-cut the slot
>to a higher measurement . to avoid a buzz at fret #1
>rick B.
Corona Dope works if you have it.


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