Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
due to low demand.
He told that I would be better off by face gluing thinner stock rather than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
Thanks,
--
Al Reid
How will I know when I get there...
If I don't know where I'm going?
"John McGaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
> > Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the
> western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
> > due to low demand.
> >
> > He told that I would be better off by face gluing thinner stock rather
> than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
> >
> > BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Al Reid
> >
> > How will I know when I get there...
> > If I don't know where I'm going?
> >
> Have you checked with West Elizabeth Lumber? I haven't been there for some
> time but they used to have a good variety of thick hardwoods.
> --
I have heard of then, and, in fact, they are relatively close to me. Unfortunately, they seem to ba open 8-5 M-F, no Saturday
hours. Perhaps they will be open this Friday. I'll check it out.
> John McGaw
> [Knoxville, TN, USA]
> http://johnmcgaw.com
>
>
"Charles Spitzer" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> i saw a large pile of it at woodworkers source a couple of weeks ago. they
> do mail order.
>
> http://www.woodworkerssource.net/Merchant3/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WS&Category_Code=Oak_Red
>
Thanks. I never bought wood on-line before. How do you know deal with random lengths and UPS shipping restrictions? That is, if I
need 4 foot minimum lengths, can one specify that, or do you get whatever they send you?
--
Al Reid
> "Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
> > Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the
> > western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
> > due to low demand.
> >
> > He told that I would be better off by face gluing thinner stock rather
> > than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
> >
> > BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Al Reid
> >
> > How will I know when I get there...
> > If I don't know where I'm going?
> >
> >
>
>
"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:K_Rod.5962$hJ6.3243@trndny01:
>
> > > BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'm thinking you shoulda started somewhere around about the 4th of
> >> July...
> >>
> >> Patriarch
> >
> > Why is that. It takes about a day and a half per chair based on the
> > set of smaller children's chairs I've made in the last couple of
> > weeks. Those were made of cherry that I had laying around. Assuming
> > I can find the materials, I will have no problem finishing them in
> > time for the holidays.
> >
> Either your plans are simpler than what I have seen, or you work more
> quickly and efficiently, and/or with fewer interruptions.
>
I made plans and have complete cut lists and detail drawings. I tend to do a setup and cut all parts, then setup again. I tend to
get tunnel vision and work at a feverous pace until I complete something. I also spray lacquer. I can get three to four coats on
in 2 to 3 hours and rub out the next day.
Last night I face glued 4/4 stock to see if I can avoid the need to find 7 or 8/4 stock. If successful, that should obviate the
problem of internal checking. If all goes well, I'll be done in a couple of weeks.
Later,
--
Al Reid
> A finishing schedule, with my shop and equipment, often takes me two weeks
> alone, and that doesn't include curing prior to rubbing out. I'm not
> equipped to spray lacquer, nor will I be anytime soon.
>
> Another note, regarding red oak: The mantel I'm working on for my father's
> home has some corbels/supports cut from 8/4 red oak, which has been in my
> wood rack for at least 6 months. On cutting these corbels this evening, I
> found some serious internal checking, such that I'm going to have to cut
> two more, or change the design some. Be sure to allow for that tendency
> with oaks.
>
> God speed, and good luck with your project.
>
> Patriarch
"Chad Bender" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Thanks. I never bought wood on-line before. How do you know deal with
> > random lengths and UPS shipping restrictions? That is, if I need 4 foot
> > minimum lengths, can one specify that, or do you get whatever they send
> > you?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Al Reid
> >
> >
> I've not ordered from woodworker supply before - their prices seem pretty
> high compared to other places.
>
> I will recommend 'The Hardwood Store' at http://www.hardwoodstore.com. I
> just received 30bf of black walnut from them and am very pleased with the
> quality and service. I placed the order last Tuesday, it shipped on
> Thursday, and arrived yesterday (Monday). The lengths are not long (< 4
> ft), but I told them I was building endtables so didn't need long lengths.
> I'm sure if you request it they could ship at least 4ft lengths - they
> claim that they can ship up to 9' via UPS, although there is probably a
> UPS surcharge for something that long.
>
> They do have 8/4 and even 12/4 red oak. They also have prepackaged 20bf
> lots (4/4) of different hardwoods. When I placed my order, I got one of
> the prepackaged lots and also 10bf of 8/4.
>
> I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just a very pleased customer.
>
> Chad
Chad,
Thanks, I'll check it out.
--
Al Reid
"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
> <snip>
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
> >
>
> I'm thinking you shoulda started somewhere around about the 4th of July...
>
> Patriarch
Why is that. It takes about a day and a half per chair based on the set of
smaller children's chairs I've made in the last couple of weeks. Those were
made of cherry that I had laying around. Assuming I can find the materials,
I will have no problem finishing them in time for the holidays.
--
Al Reid
"Nick Bozovich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:xiRod.5497$5v1.2694@trnddc06...
> Al -
> Try Mountain Lake Lumber in Duncansville - 814-696-8706 - Norm McGough.
> This is just a little one man operation, but he has some great stuff. He
> has his own saw mill and kiln, and really knows wood. Last time I bought
> white oak from him (several months ago) it was $1.80/bf. He has red oak,
> cherry, maple and others. He had a great load of ash (really nice
quality,
> and about $1.60/bf), but that may be all gone by now. Last time I was
there
> he also had a load of elm (?? never knew it was used as a woodworking
> lumber, but I guess anything's possible). I suspect that if you have a
> specific need for a certain size, he would probably be willing to custom
cut
> and dry it to your requirements.
>
> If you're in Pittsburgh, it's probably about a 2 hr drive, but if you have
a
> pickup or trailer, I think you can make it worth while.
>
> Norm's a great guy, and doesn't mind selling smaller quantities of lumber.
>
> Nick B.
>
Thanks, I will keep that in mind.
--
Al Reid
>
> "Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
> > Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the
> > western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
> > due to low demand.
> >
> > He told that I would be better off by face gluing thinner stock rather
> > than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
> >
> > BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Al Reid
> >
> > How will I know when I get there...
> > If I don't know where I'm going?
> >
> >
>
>
"Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
> Any thoughts?
>
> BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
>
I'm thinking you shoulda started somewhere around about the 4th of July...
Patriarch
"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:K_Rod.5962$hJ6.3243@trndny01:
> > BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
>> >
>>
>> I'm thinking you shoulda started somewhere around about the 4th of
>> July...
>>
>> Patriarch
>
> Why is that. It takes about a day and a half per chair based on the
> set of smaller children's chairs I've made in the last couple of
> weeks. Those were made of cherry that I had laying around. Assuming
> I can find the materials, I will have no problem finishing them in
> time for the holidays.
>
Either your plans are simpler than what I have seen, or you work more
quickly and efficiently, and/or with fewer interruptions.
A finishing schedule, with my shop and equipment, often takes me two weeks
alone, and that doesn't include curing prior to rubbing out. I'm not
equipped to spray lacquer, nor will I be anytime soon.
Another note, regarding red oak: The mantel I'm working on for my father's
home has some corbels/supports cut from 8/4 red oak, which has been in my
wood rack for at least 6 months. On cutting these corbels this evening, I
found some serious internal checking, such that I'm going to have to cut
two more, or change the design some. Be sure to allow for that tendency
with oaks.
God speed, and good luck with your project.
Patriarch
i saw a large pile of it at woodworkers source a couple of weeks ago. they
do mail order.
http://www.woodworkerssource.net/Merchant3/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WS&Category_Code=Oak_Red
"Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the
> western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
> due to low demand.
>
> He told that I would be better off by face gluing thinner stock rather
> than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
>
> BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> How will I know when I get there...
> If I don't know where I'm going?
>
>
"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Charles Spitzer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> i saw a large pile of it at woodworkers source a couple of weeks ago.
>> they
>> do mail order.
>>
>> http://www.woodworkerssource.net/Merchant3/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=WS&Category_Code=Oak_Red
>>
>
> Thanks. I never bought wood on-line before. How do you know deal with
> random lengths and UPS shipping restrictions? That is, if I
> need 4 foot minimum lengths, can one specify that, or do you get whatever
> they send you?
call and ask them. they have some premade up ups mailing bundles (20 bf) and
the price includes the shipping, but that's mostly random lengths/widths. i
don't recall if they have prebundled thicker stock than 4/4. i guess you
could ask and get whatever lengths/widths you want since they provide custom
cutting/edging/planing also. there's also a weight limit for ups you'll have
to worry about.
when i go there, i drag out the board and tell them how much from which end
i want.
most of what i see there is s2s, but it isn't finished planed.
regards,
charlie
cave creek, az
> Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
http://www.groffslumber.com
Not exactly Western PA but I have bought 8/4 red oak from them and
they stock beautiful stuff. They claim on their site that they do
mail order although I have never used that particular service. I have
faxed orders to them in the past and it has been ready and exactly
what I ordered (and very nice stock) when I went to pick it up. They
are very pleasent to deal with on the phone as well.
Hope it helps . . .
L
"Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the
western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
> due to low demand.
>
> He told that I would be better off by face gluing thinner stock rather
than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
>
> BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> How will I know when I get there...
> If I don't know where I'm going?
>
Have you checked with West Elizabeth Lumber? I haven't been there for some
time but they used to have a good variety of thick hardwoods.
--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com
Try Forcey Lumber in Woodland, near Clearfield. Phone
814-857-5002. Easy access to Interstate 80.
I've bought from them a couple of times and got good quality
rough sawn stock.
Frank
"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Nick Bozovich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:xiRod.5497$5v1.2694@trnddc06...
>> Al -
>> Try Mountain Lake Lumber in Duncansville - 814-696-8706 -
>> Norm McGough.
>> This is just a little one man operation, but he has some
>> great stuff. He
>> has his own saw mill and kiln, and really knows wood.
>> Last time I bought
>> white oak from him (several months ago) it was $1.80/bf.
>> He has red oak,
>> cherry, maple and others. He had a great load of ash
>> (really nice
> quality,
>> and about $1.60/bf), but that may be all gone by now.
>> Last time I was
> there
>> he also had a load of elm (?? never knew it was used as a
>> woodworking
>> lumber, but I guess anything's possible). I suspect that
>> if you have a
>> specific need for a certain size, he would probably be
>> willing to custom
> cut
>> and dry it to your requirements.
>>
>> If you're in Pittsburgh, it's probably about a 2 hr
>> drive, but if you have
> a
>> pickup or trailer, I think you can make it worth while.
>>
>> Norm's a great guy, and doesn't mind selling smaller
>> quantities of lumber.
>>
>> Nick B.
>>
>
> Thanks, I will keep that in mind.
>
> --
>
> Al Reid
>
>>
>> "Pennsylvania Patriot"
>> <[email protected]> wrote in
>> message news:[email protected]...
>> > Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn
>> > red oak in the
>> > western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it
>> > anymore
>> > due to low demand.
>> >
>> > He told that I would be better off by face gluing
>> > thinner stock rather
>> > than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > --
>> > Al Reid
>> >
>> > How will I know when I get there...
>> > If I don't know where I'm going?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks. I never bought wood on-line before. How do you know deal with
> random lengths and UPS shipping restrictions? That is, if I need 4 foot
> minimum lengths, can one specify that, or do you get whatever they send
> you?
>
> --
>
> Al Reid
>
>
I've not ordered from woodworker supply before - their prices seem pretty
high compared to other places.
I will recommend 'The Hardwood Store' at http://www.hardwoodstore.com. I
just received 30bf of black walnut from them and am very pleased with the
quality and service. I placed the order last Tuesday, it shipped on
Thursday, and arrived yesterday (Monday). The lengths are not long (< 4
ft), but I told them I was building endtables so didn't need long lengths.
I'm sure if you request it they could ship at least 4ft lengths - they
claim that they can ship up to 9' via UPS, although there is probably a
UPS surcharge for something that long.
They do have 8/4 and even 12/4 red oak. They also have prepackaged 20bf
lots (4/4) of different hardwoods. When I placed my order, I got one of
the prepackaged lots and also 10bf of 8/4.
I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just a very pleased customer.
Chad
Al -
Try Mountain Lake Lumber in Duncansville - 814-696-8706 - Norm McGough.
This is just a little one man operation, but he has some great stuff. He
has his own saw mill and kiln, and really knows wood. Last time I bought
white oak from him (several months ago) it was $1.80/bf. He has red oak,
cherry, maple and others. He had a great load of ash (really nice quality,
and about $1.60/bf), but that may be all gone by now. Last time I was there
he also had a load of elm (?? never knew it was used as a woodworking
lumber, but I guess anything's possible). I suspect that if you have a
specific need for a certain size, he would probably be willing to custom cut
and dry it to your requirements.
If you're in Pittsburgh, it's probably about a 2 hr drive, but if you have a
pickup or trailer, I think you can make it worth while.
Norm's a great guy, and doesn't mind selling smaller quantities of lumber.
Nick B.
"Pennsylvania Patriot" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone know of a source for 7/4 or 8/4 rough sawn red oak in the
> western PA area? My normal supplier doesn't stock it anymore
> due to low demand.
>
> He told that I would be better off by face gluing thinner stock rather
> than buying the thicker material. Any thoughts?
>
> BTW, I am making a table and chairs for SHMBO for xmas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> How will I know when I get there...
> If I don't know where I'm going?
>
>