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"Locutus"

15/09/2006 3:47 PM

How much is this worth?

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html


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"Andy"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 12:56 PM

Locutus wrote:
> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html

Definitely not $1200 - I've done quite a bit of shopping around
recently, and I've seen several old cast-iron 14" bandsaws go for
$250-400 (Walker-Turner, Rockwell, etc.) Hard to tell since we don't
konw the brand, HP of the motor, condition of wheels/bearings, etc.,
but I would say it's definitely worth a close look at $150. Once you
have a solid cast-iron frame, you can upgrade just about everything
else if necessary. Get an Iturra Designs catalog and a Duginske book.
Andy
(Just a hobbyist and recent used-bandsaaw-buyer, not an expert, take my
advice for what it's worth)

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 1:49 PM


"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html
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To the buyer - 150

Dave

d

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 2:37 PM


Locutus wrote:

> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html

What's it worth ? Depends on the shipping.

If I were in Cincinnati and wanted a bandsaw, I'd probably go for it.
If I had to travel from Dayton, I wouldn't. I'd ask him to measure the
wheel diameter first though - 14" and upward is good, 18" is
snap-his-hand-off and under 14" is a walk-away.

Bandsaws are quite easy restoration problems, if you have basic
metal-bashing skills. Bearings come from the bearing shop. Tensioners
come from the bandsaw spring shop. Blades and guides are stock bandsaw
parts, with a little hackign to fit the guides on. You _have_ read the
Mark Duginske book, haven't you?

Rd

"Robatoy"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 4:01 PM


Swingman wrote:
[schnippified for brevity.]
>
> I'd be tempted to go take a look at it if you want a restoration project ...
> but you probably don't have a "gloat" just yet.
>
> That said, it is "old iron", and you may enjoy resurrecting it at that
> price.
>

It would be a cool project.

So, what is the goal? Is it to use it as a tool or is the buyer going
to chrome the thing and hang it of his mantle? ( I say this with only a
part of my tongue in my cheek, 'cuz a buddy of mine has a MV Agusta
hanging over his fireplace (it belonged to Mike Hailwood))

What do we want? A tool or an art piece?
As a tool it sucks
As an art piece.....well...

r

Aa

"Andy"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 4:34 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> What do we want? A tool or an art piece?
> As a tool it sucks
> As an art piece.....well...
>
> r

Good question, but after reading through the Iturra Designs catalog,
I'm almost convinced that the old ones with good castings are at least
the start of a superior tool compared to most of the 14" models on the
market today. And true, if you want more resaw capacity, you should
probably stay away from the 1-piece frame.
I think the more important question is how soon do you want to use it,
or how much work do you want to put into it? If you want to use the
tool tomorrow and have it be in reasonably good shape right away, go
with the Ridgid, plug it in, do some minor tracking adjustments, and
go. With this or any older used one, it looks like you'll need a new
switch and new blades, you could POTENTIALLY need a new spring, new
tires, new v-belt, new guide blocks, new wheel bearings, a fence, a
miter guage, etc..., and possibly even a new motor. Depending on how
much of this stuff needs replacing, you might almost be getting close
to the price of the Ridgid, but with these replacements/upgrades, I'd
argue you'd probably have a better quality saw (again, depends on the
maker and the quality of the castings, etc.).
If I were in your position, I'd definitely go take a look at it, and
try to figure out how much stuff needs replacing. If you don't feel
comfortable refurbishing a large tool, or if you just don't want to
bother with it, forget it and go with the Ridgid. Or see if you can
wait for a sale price on the steel-frame Craftsman with 8" resaw
capacity ($480 list)- I was considering that one also.
Good luck,
Andy

mr

"marc rosen"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 6:28 PM

Hey Locutus,
AS others have typed, it is not worht the $1200 the seller stated. I
am leary about it because if he did "know" it was worth that much he
would also know its make, model, etc. It looks like it is sitting on a
wooden table. Although you can't buy a good cast iron saw for $150 I
think you might be unhappy with this unit. It also appears to have a
blower unit near the dust port. Good selling point but I'd use my
money on a new saw, with new tires, bearings, etc. (Unless you had a
new saw ans wanted a restoration project as someone else typed)
Marc

Locutus wrote:
> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html

Ll

"Locutus"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 4:49 PM


"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Whatever someone will pay for it.
>

Thanks, that was a big help.

Next time, if you don't know, try just not saying anything.

Ll

"Locutus"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 4:59 PM


"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Locutus wrote:
>> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html
>
> Definitely not $1200 - I've done quite a bit of shopping around
> recently, and I've seen several old cast-iron 14" bandsaws go for
> $250-400 (Walker-Turner, Rockwell, etc.) Hard to tell since we don't
> konw the brand, HP of the motor, condition of wheels/bearings, etc.,
> but I would say it's definitely worth a close look at $150. Once you
> have a solid cast-iron frame, you can upgrade just about everything
> else if necessary. Get an Iturra Designs catalog and a Duginske book.
> Andy
> (Just a hobbyist and recent used-bandsaaw-buyer, not an expert, take my
> advice for what it's worth)
>

Thanks for the feedback. I am thinking it might be a Craftsman, as I saw one
exactly like it at the goodwill a few months ago, though that one was non
functional.

The seller is in my area, and I am about to buy a Ridgid 14". It seems that
new Ridgid would be better, but this saw is half the price of the Ridgid....
I just don't know enough about bandsaws at this point to make an educated
decision.

Ll

"Locutus"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 5:54 PM


"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I do know and I answered your question. What more do you want?
>

For you to stop top posting!! :)

LL

"Locutus"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 10:14 PM


"marc rosen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hey Locutus,
> AS others have typed, it is not worht the $1200 the seller stated. I
> am leary about it because if he did "know" it was worth that much he
> would also know its make, model, etc. It looks like it is sitting on a
> wooden table. Although you can't buy a good cast iron saw for $150 I
> think you might be unhappy with this unit. It also appears to have a
> blower unit near the dust port. Good selling point but I'd use my
> money on a new saw, with new tires, bearings, etc. (Unless you had a
> new saw ans wanted a restoration project as someone else typed)
> Marc
>
> Locutus wrote:
>> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html
>

Thanks for the advice everyone. I am not looking for a restore project, a
new switch wouldn't be a problem, but I'm looking for a good tool that I can
just use without much trouble. It sounds like this might be more than what I
want to get into.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 10:20 PM

Not going to happen.

"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >I do know and I answered your question. What more do you want?
> >
>
> For you to stop top posting!! :)
>
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 9:51 PM

I do know and I answered your question. What more do you want?


"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Whatever someone will pay for it.
> >
>
> Thanks, that was a big help.
>
> Next time, if you don't know, try just not saying anything.
>
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 8:22 PM

Whatever someone will pay for it.

"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Js

"Jill"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 8:53 PM

So out of three replies only one has been serious. Is this alt.jokes or
rec.woodworking???

"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html
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> To the buyer - 150
>
> Dave
>

Ld

LRod

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

16/09/2006 4:23 AM

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:47:33 -0400, "Locutus"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html

As of 2325 (0325Z) Friday night, it had been deleted by the author. I
didn't even get to see it.


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in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 9:54 PM


"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/207031554.html
Since we don't know what size it is (doesn't look like more that a 14", but
who knows...) and it doesn't work, so the bearing could be shot. It could
be a complete disaster, or it could just need a new switch.

Unless you enjoy working on machinery, I wouldn't pay more than $50 for it.
It would take kind of bargain to make me want to monkey with it.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Locutus" on 15/09/2006 3:47 PM

15/09/2006 5:06 PM

"Locutus" wrote in message

Kinda hard to tell from the photo. It appears that you may not be able to
resaw much with it, as the casting looks to be one piece; it apparently uses
an 87" blade (if enlarging the photo to see the writing on the top wheel
cover is not misleading); the blade tension assembly, as well as the guide
post
and guide block appear to be well made and unlike the flimsy units you see
on modern bandsaws; and the stand appears to be roughly homemade ...FWIW.

I'd be tempted to go take a look at it if you want a restoration project ...
but you probably don't have a "gloat" just yet.

That said, it is "old iron", and you may enjoy resurrecting it at that
price.

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