LJ

Larry Jaques

12/05/2010 6:15 AM

OT: California vs. Texas


Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
jumps out and starts to attack dog.


California:
#1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
coyote is doing what is natural.
#2. Call animal control. Animal control captures coyote and spends
$200 testing it for diseases and $500 relocating it.
#3. Call Vet. Veterinarian collects dead dog and spends $200 testing
it for diseases.
#4. Governor goes to hospital and spends $3500 getting checked for
diseases from the coyote and getting bite wound bandaged.
#5. Running trail gets shut down for 6 months while wildlife services
conduct a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is clear of dangerous
animals.
#6. Governor spends $50,000 and starts a coyote awareness program for
people who live in the area.
#7. State legislature spends $2 million investigating how to better
handle rabies and how to possibly eradicate it.
#8. Governor’s security agent fired for not stopping the attack and
letting the Governor try to intervene.
#9. Cost $75,000 to train new security agent.
#10. PETA protest the relocation of the coyote.

Texas:
#1. Governor spends $1.23 on a .380 ACP Gold Dot Hollow Point and he
and the dog keep jogging.

And we wonder why California is Broke?


P.S: Also from Texas is this boycott story from Victoria:
http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212300776.shtml
(Surely, Lew will be coming along to point out the obvious bigotry of
the article and the poster. ;)

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STOP LIVING LIKE VEAL
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This topic has 38 replies

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 1:20 PM

On May 16, 1:17=A0am, "Thos" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Welcome to Texas! =A0Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no =
state
> income tax...minimal whimps...
> COME ON DOWN!!

Naaa... If I want some of that 'culture' I will soak in it in Alberta
Canada.
The fact there are no wimps in Alberta, is a gimme, because none exist
in Canada.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

13/05/2010 5:47 AM

On May 13, 8:50=A0am, phorbin <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
> > Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
> > jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>
> > California:
> > #1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
> > coyote is doing what is natural.
>
> Before it even gets to this point...
>
> 1. Governor's bodyguard shoots coyote to protect governor ......and
> maybe save the dog.
>
> 2. Governor and dog are jogging with bodyguards. Coyote looks at the
> size of the pack and runs away.
>
> 3. Closed community security shoots the coyote.

Or.... catch the coyote, and throw it in the shower with a PETA member
and nail the door closed.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 9:16 PM

On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:16:55 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote the following:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> P.S: Also from Texas is this boycott story from Victoria:
>> http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212300776.shtml
>> (Surely, Lew will be coming along to point out the obvious bigotry of
>> the article and the poster. ;)
>
>There is an easy solution to the illegal immigrant problem: we all move to
>Mexico.

I'm all for a _reverse_ invasion. We'll take over their oil, their
natural gas, and CIA Factbook industries: food and beverages, tobacco,
chemicals, iron and steel, petroleum, mining, textiles, clothing,
motor vehicles, consumer durables, tourism.


>Say, wait a minute...instead of all of us moving to Mexico, why don't we
>just change our immigration laws and way of doing things to the Mexican
>syle?

See above. They came and took from us. Let's let our military go do
the same there in return for the favor. It'll be a refreshing way to
recouperate from Iraq and Afghanistan. Uninvade Iraq and Afgh. and go
take over Mayheeko, OK?

--
You will find that the mere resolve not to be useless,
and the honest desire to help other people, will, in
the quickest and delicatest ways, improve yourself.
-- John Ruskin

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

14/05/2010 8:06 AM

Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>
> In all of this shooting, I'm wondering why nobody shoots the governor
> ...

Because, in Texas, he can shoot back.

I don't know about California.

On thinking on it...
In Texas, the governor goes jogging without a security detachement - in
California the governor probably has a protection detail.

DI

"Dave In Texas"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 1:53 PM


"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Thos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
>> state income tax...minimal whimps...
>> COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great weather...does it
>> really get any better?
>
> County Line - Austin!

Taste is a personal thing but I doubt County Line cracks the Top 100.
Luling City Market gets my vote and my business - regularly. I hear
there's a couple of top-rated joints just up the road in Lockhart, too.

Dave in Houston

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

15/05/2010 10:17 PM


"Mark & Juanita" wrote
>
> Which is quite interesting as California has the most draconian gun laws
> between the two states. How could it be that the governor in California
> would feel more at risk since they have such restrictive gun laws, while
> the
> governor in Texas doesn't require a security detail despite having less
> restrictive gun laws?
>
>
Cus he is an honorary Kennedy. He married one.

Which is a high risk family to be in.


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 12:45 PM

"Thos" wrote:

> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some
> stones....no state income tax...minimal whimps...
> COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great
> weather...does it really get any better?
-----------------------------------------------------
You must be kidding.

Pick a time, pick a place in Texas, the weather still sucks.

Lew


Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

17/05/2010 11:20 AM

Swingman wrote:
>
> A family owned chinese restaurant in an out of way strip center in the
> little town of Synder, NW of Abilene, in West Texas serves the best
> old timey "country style" breakfast you'll find anywhere on the
> planet. (It was the pickups in front at 5AM, on otherewise deserted
> streets, which gave up its well guarded secret). I mean breakfast, in
> a chinese restaurant, fercrissakes ...!

It's a maxim in New York that you can tell you're in a Jewish neighborhood
by the density of Chinese restaurants.


aa

allen476

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

13/05/2010 7:39 AM

On May 13, 8:50=A0am, phorbin <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
> > Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
> > jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>
> > California:
> > #1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
> > coyote is doing what is natural.
>
> Before it even gets to this point...
>
> 1. Governor's bodyguard shoots coyote to protect governor ......and
> maybe save the dog.
>
> 2. Governor and dog are jogging with bodyguards. Coyote looks at the
> size of the pack and runs away.
>
> 3. Closed community security shoots the coyote.


You should add to that

4. Shooting caught on video. Replayed for everyone to see. PETA
condemns shooting as "animal profiling" and files civil rights lawsuit
on behalf of coyotes family.

5. 2 years later settlement in lawsuit in which the state settles for
an "undisclosed" amount while not admitting any wrongdoing.

6. Coyote's family blows money on steak and beer. They are now
homeless and collecting welfare in South Central.

Allen

MH

"Martin H. Eastburn"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 8:14 PM

County Line in Austin on 2222 IIRC - edge of the lake - was our Saturday
night almost every Saturday and then back to Austin for Kaluoa (sp) Mouse.

It is the place. If we only lived there again.

Martin


Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/

On 5/16/2010 1:59 AM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "Thos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
>> state income tax...minimal whimps...
>> COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great weather...does
>> it really get any better?
>
> County Line - Austin!

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

15/05/2010 7:12 PM

Lobby Dosser wrote:

> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In all of this shooting, I'm wondering why nobody shoots the governor
>>> ...
>>
>> Because, in Texas, he can shoot back.
>>
>> I don't know about California.
>>
>> On thinking on it...
>> In Texas, the governor goes jogging without a security detachement - in
>> California the governor probably has a protection detail.
>>
>
> Just to keep from getting shot, not keep him from being bitten by coyotes
> ...

Which is quite interesting as California has the most draconian gun laws
between the two states. How could it be that the governor in California
would feel more at risk since they have such restrictive gun laws, while the
governor in Texas doesn't require a security detail despite having less
restrictive gun laws?



--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 8:42 AM


"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> P.S: Also from Texas is this boycott story from Victoria:

Waving a placard and chanting a slogan is so much easier than thinking,
isn't it? And it doesn't matter a bit if the slogan is a made-up fairytale,
if you *want* to believe it, then that's just as good as it being true.

As Johnny Winter sang, there's so much shit in Texas you're bound to step in
some.

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

17/05/2010 11:17 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Thos" wrote:
>
>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some
>> stones....no state income tax...minimal whimps...
>> COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great
>> weather...does it really get any better?
> -----------------------------------------------------
> You must be kidding.
>
> Pick a time, pick a place in Texas, the weather still sucks.
>

So what? We in Houston didn't build the first air-conditioned, domed, sports
stadium to be ostentatious! Fran Liebowitz (a New York author) once said:
"The outdoors is something through which I pass between my apartment and my
car."

That sentiment works for many of us.

bb

"basilisk"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

13/05/2010 8:48 AM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:183eed67-d3a6-47c0-a2df-79d1ff462f50@j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On May 13, 8:50 am, phorbin <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
> > Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
> > jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>
> > California:
> > #1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
> > coyote is doing what is natural.
>
> Before it even gets to this point...
>
> 1. Governor's bodyguard shoots coyote to protect governor ......and
> maybe save the dog.
>
> 2. Governor and dog are jogging with bodyguards. Coyote looks at the
> size of the pack and runs away.
>
> 3. Closed community security shoots the coyote.

Or.... catch the coyote, and throw it in the shower with a PETA member
and nail the door closed.

It's one thing to shoot a coyote, but why would you want to intentionally
torture it. : )

basilisk

sn

sam

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 6:17 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...

Texas by three touchdowns.

s

pp

phorbin

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

13/05/2010 7:50 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...

> Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
> jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>
>
> California:
> #1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
> coyote is doing what is natural.

Before it even gets to this point...

1. Governor's bodyguard shoots coyote to protect governor ......and
maybe save the dog.

2. Governor and dog are jogging with bodyguards. Coyote looks at the
size of the pack and runs away.

3. Closed community security shoots the coyote.

pp

phorbin

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

14/05/2010 7:56 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...


>
>
> In all of this shooting, I'm wondering why nobody shoots the governor ...

Because he hires better marksmen.

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 8:46 PM

Lobby Dosser wrote:

> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 5/16/2010 3:20 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>> On May 16, 1:17 am, "Thos"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
>>>> state
>>>> income tax...minimal whimps...
>>>> COME ON DOWN!!
>>>
>>> Naaa... If I want some of that 'culture' I will soak in it in Alberta
>>> Canada.
>>> The fact there are no wimps in Alberta, is a gimme, because none exist
>>> in Canada.
>>
>> Indeed, Texas has its fair share of wimps ... but most weren't born here.
>> Well, except perhaps for the current crop of yuppie puppies.
>>
>> In the last 30 years, in cultural attitudes, spirit of laws, and the
>> demographics of rural land ownership, it is almost indistinguishable from
>> the Mid West or NE.
>>
>> AAMOF, traveling through the country on tours in the last twenty years
>> and you quickly note that regional differences are basically extinct in
>> the US.
>>
>> Wal-Mart and the golden arches are everywhere ...
>
> And it's been getting worse and worse since the early 1980s. I used to
> travel a fair amount on business and typically got taken to lunch by the
> local customer or our sales rep. Inevitably ended up in some place
> indistinguishable from the last three towns on the trip. Only way to get
> away from it is to get out of the cities and off the freeways. And even
> then you still find the chains like McD's.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. (OK, except for McD's). At least
uniformity of product and quality is present. I've been in lots of places
where a good chain would have been welcome because the local service/food
was so bad.



--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 8:45 PM

Lobby Dosser wrote:

> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 5/16/2010 3:20 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>> On May 16, 1:17 am, "Thos"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
>>>> state
>>>> income tax...minimal whimps...
>>>> COME ON DOWN!!
>>>
>>> Naaa... If I want some of that 'culture' I will soak in it in Alberta
>>> Canada.
>>> The fact there are no wimps in Alberta, is a gimme, because none exist
>>> in Canada.
>>
>> Indeed, Texas has its fair share of wimps ... but most weren't born here.
>> Well, except perhaps for the current crop of yuppie puppies.
>>
>> In the last 30 years, in cultural attitudes, spirit of laws, and the
>> demographics of rural land ownership, it is almost indistinguishable from
>> the Mid West or NE.
>>
>> AAMOF, traveling through the country on tours in the last twenty years
>> and you quickly note that regional differences are basically extinct in
>> the US.
>>
>> Wal-Mart and the golden arches are everywhere ...
>
> And it's been getting worse and worse since the early 1980s. I used to
> travel a fair amount on business and typically got taken to lunch by the
> local customer or our sales rep. Inevitably ended up in some place
> indistinguishable from the last three towns on the trip. Only way to get
> away from it is to get out of the cities and off the freeways. And even
> then you still find the chains like McD's.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. (OK, except for McD's). At least
uniformity of product and quality is present. I've been in lots of places
where a good chain would have been welcome because the local service/food
was so bad.



--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 6:57 PM

On 5/16/2010 3:20 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On May 16, 1:17 am, "Thos"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no state
>> income tax...minimal whimps...
>> COME ON DOWN!!
>
> Naaa... If I want some of that 'culture' I will soak in it in Alberta
> Canada.
> The fact there are no wimps in Alberta, is a gimme, because none exist
> in Canada.

Indeed, Texas has its fair share of wimps ... but most weren't born
here. Well, except perhaps for the current crop of yuppie puppies.

In the last 30 years, in cultural attitudes, spirit of laws, and the
demographics of rural land ownership, it is almost indistinguishable
from the Mid West or NE.

AAMOF, traveling through the country on tours in the last twenty years
and you quickly note that regional differences are basically extinct in
the US.

Wal-Mart and the golden arches are everywhere ...

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Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Tt

"Thos"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 12:17 AM

Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no state
income tax...minimal whimps...
COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great weather...does it
really get any better? I don't think so....
And think about it...if "the big one" hits...you can go to the beach in
Albuquerque! lol...


"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark & Juanita" wrote
>>
>> Which is quite interesting as California has the most draconian gun laws
>> between the two states. How could it be that the governor in California
>> would feel more at risk since they have such restrictive gun laws, while
>> the
>> governor in Texas doesn't require a security detail despite having less
>> restrictive gun laws?
>>
>>
> Cus he is an honorary Kennedy. He married one.
>
> Which is a high risk family to be in.
>
>
>

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 9:50 PM

Lobby Dosser wrote:

> "Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
... snip
>>>
>>> And it's been getting worse and worse since the early 1980s. I used to
>>> travel a fair amount on business and typically got taken to lunch by the
>>> local customer or our sales rep. Inevitably ended up in some place
>>> indistinguishable from the last three towns on the trip. Only way to get
>>> away from it is to get out of the cities and off the freeways. And even
>>> then you still find the chains like McD's.
>>
>> That's not necessarily a bad thing. (OK, except for McD's). At least
>> uniformity of product and quality is present. I've been in lots of
>> places where a good chain would have been welcome because the local
>> service/food was so bad.
>
> Hey you got to take Some risks in life. Though SWMBO will no longer eat in
> places with painted saws on the walls ...

Heh. Funny thing is, some of the better places are the ones with painted
saws on the walls. :-)

Key is to look for the busy places where the locals go. If it's not
crowded and the locals aren't frequenting it, it probably isn't a good idea
for a visitor to eat there either.

There are some towns where the locals go out of town to eat. That's the
places where a good chain would be welcome.


--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

Rr

RP

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 4:23 PM

On May 12, 9:15=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote:
> Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
> jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>
> California:
> #1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
> coyote is doing what is natural.
> #2. Call animal control. Animal control captures coyote and spends
> $200 testing it for diseases and $500 relocating it.
> #3. Call Vet. Veterinarian collects dead dog =A0and spends $200 testing
> it for diseases.
> #4. Governor goes to hospital and spends $3500 getting checked for
> diseases from the coyote and getting bite wound bandaged.
> #5. Running trail gets shut down for 6 months while wildlife services
> conduct a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is clear of dangerous
> animals.
> #6. Governor spends $50,000 and starts a coyote awareness program for
> people who live in the area.
> #7. State legislature spends $2 million investigating how to better
> handle rabies and how to possibly eradicate it.
> #8. Governor=92s security agent fired for not stopping the attack and
> letting the Governor try to intervene.
> #9. Cost $75,000 to train new security agent.
> #10. PETA protest the relocation of the coyote.
>
> Texas:
> #1. Governor spends $1.23 on a .380 ACP Gold Dot Hollow Point and he
> and the dog keep jogging.
>
> And we wonder why California is Broke?
>
> P.S: Also from Texas is this boycott story from Victoria:http://www.postc=
hronicle.com/commentary/article_212300776.shtml
> (Surely, Lew will be coming along to point out the obvious bigotry of
> the article and the poster. ;)
>
> --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0STOP LIVING LIKE VEAL
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -----------------------

Larry goes out to the garage and gets his oar from his canoe then goes
and gets his largest garbage can and fills it almost to the top with
sh*t and starts stirring... Well, well, well, says Larry, lets see
what we can bring to the top today boys. LOL
On that note, I guess I'm lucky that I live in central New York
because we don't have that many illegals around here. At least not
until lately. The other day wifey and I were Saturday shopping and we
split up as usual to get things done quicker and I notice two
Messicans seem to be hovering around my bride of 30 years. Not right
on top of her but going around and around the aisles and ending up
near her a ~lot~. So I says sorta loud "Hey them Messicans bothering
you dear?" Boy, did they disappear then. I don't think they were going
to rip her off, I just think they liked her ass.

RP

RP

MH

"Martin H. Eastburn"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 8:13 PM

Just got it -
We start shipping HAS-MAT materials that have to be stored for xxxx years
to Mexico. Mexico will seal the boarders promptly!

Martin

On 5/12/2010 9:16 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>> P.S: Also from Texas is this boycott story from Victoria:
>> http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212300776.shtml
>> (Surely, Lew will be coming along to point out the obvious bigotry of
>> the article and the poster. ;)
>
> There is an easy solution to the illegal immigrant problem: we all move to
> Mexico.
> ------------------
>
> Of course, you won't be able to work...start a business, yes; work, no
> except in special situations.
>
> You can join Seguridad Social (social security) for a rather modest sum but
> not much need, doctors have a more realistic sense of their value than do
> those in the US. They speak Spanish and accept cash.
>
> If you are there on a tourist card, you will have to leave the country over
> night every six months; doesn't have to be to the US, though, any country
> will do. If you have a visa you will have either FM-2 or FM-3. With both,
> you'll have to prove that you have sufficient funds (considerable) to not
> become a burden on the country; both have to be renewed annually; with one,
> you may be able to work - employer has to vouch for you - but generally not
> unless you have some special skill not available from Mexican
> citizens...teaching English is one if you don't mind the low pay.
>
> You'll need to learn enough Spanish to deal with common situations,
> especially immigration as all official business - and signs - is in Spanish.
> It is OK to take a (paid) interpreter with you. Most all retail business
> and signage is in Spanish too. Hint: if you want to buy replacement light
> bulbs for the low (25) wattage ones in your rental abode, ask for "focos".
>
> You can take a car with US plates but you won't be able to renew them unless
> you have a permanent address in the US; NP, the Mexican cops don't care if
> the plates are out of date (US ones do so don't drive back to the US).
>
> Speaking of Mexican cops, you should learn how to handle "mordidas".
> Literally, that means "bites"...a bribe...what a Mexican transito cop tries
> to extract when he sees you driving around with US plates. If you don't
> pony up he will want to take your driver's license so you have to go to the
> cop house - and pay a fine - to reclaim it. Usually, that is a hollow
> threat but if not you could just give him one of your dozen or so xeroxes of
> the International Driver's License that you were smart enough to get. You
> can also get a Mexican driver's license (don't show it to the cop) after you
> learn enough Spanish to get around.
>
> When you rent, be sure the place already has a phone. If not, look forward
> to a long wait and paying around $1,000 to get one; the money also gets you
> "acciones" (stock) in the company which you can turn around and sell to
> recover part of the money; of course, you'll have to know Spanish to write
> and run your classified ad. BTW, when you rent you may have to come up with
> a "fiador"; that is someone who vouches for you and who will come up with
> the rent if you don't. Also BTW, rents aren't cheap unless you like
> ramshakle.
>
> You may have difficulty opening a bank account even if you walk in and plunk
> $5,000 down on the counter. Persevere...you need one to get a debit card
> and you'll need that to pay bills since only that or cash is generally used
> (no checks). You *could* keep your cash at home but thievery - petty or
> not - is not unknown.
>
> -----------------
>
> Say, wait a minute...instead of all of us moving to Mexico, why don't we
> just change our immigration laws and way of doing things to the Mexican
> syle?
>

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 1:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

>P.S: Also from Texas is this boycott story from Victoria:
>http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212300776.shtml

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/shoplift.asp

Bb

"Buerste"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 11:34 PM


"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
> jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>
>

> Texas:
> #1. Governor spends $1.23 on a .380 ACP Gold Dot Hollow Point and he
> and the dog keep jogging.
>
> And we wonder why California is Broke?
>

$1.23??? Shoot the damn coyote 5 times with cast bullets in reloads! Cost:
$0.15

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

13/05/2010 11:31 AM

On 5/13/2010 10:39 AM, allen476 wrote:
> On May 13, 8:50 am, phorbin<[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>
>>> Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
>>> jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>>
>>> California:
>>> #1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
>>> coyote is doing what is natural.
>>
>> Before it even gets to this point...
>>
>> 1. Governor's bodyguard shoots coyote to protect governor ......and
>> maybe save the dog.
>>
>> 2. Governor and dog are jogging with bodyguards. Coyote looks at the
>> size of the pack and runs away.
>>
>> 3. Closed community security shoots the coyote.
>
>
> You should add to that
>
> 4. Shooting caught on video. Replayed for everyone to see. PETA
> condemns shooting as "animal profiling" and files civil rights lawsuit
> on behalf of coyotes family.
>
> 5. 2 years later settlement in lawsuit in which the state settles for
> an "undisclosed" amount while not admitting any wrongdoing.
>
> 6. Coyote's family blows money on steak and beer. They are now
> homeless and collecting welfare in South Central.

The thing you're all forgetting is that California doesn't have a
Governor, it has a Governator, who flexes his biceps and snarls at the
coyote and the coyote heads for Texas where he only has to worry about
getting shot at.

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

13/05/2010 8:55 PM

"phorbin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>> Scenario: Governor of state jogging with his dog along a trail. Coyote
>> jumps out and starts to attack dog.
>>
>>
>> California:
>> #1. Governor starts to intervene and then realizes he should stop; the
>> coyote is doing what is natural.
>
> Before it even gets to this point...
>
> 1. Governor's bodyguard shoots coyote to protect governor ......and
> maybe save the dog.
>
> 2. Governor and dog are jogging with bodyguards. Coyote looks at the
> size of the pack and runs away.
>
> 3. Closed community security shoots the coyote.


In all of this shooting, I'm wondering why nobody shoots the governor ...

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

15/05/2010 3:40 AM

"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>>
>> In all of this shooting, I'm wondering why nobody shoots the governor
>> ...
>
> Because, in Texas, he can shoot back.
>
> I don't know about California.
>
> On thinking on it...
> In Texas, the governor goes jogging without a security detachement - in
> California the governor probably has a protection detail.
>

Just to keep from getting shot, not keep him from being bitten by coyotes
...

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

15/05/2010 11:57 PM

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In all of this shooting, I'm wondering why nobody shoots the governor
>>>> ...
>>>
>>> Because, in Texas, he can shoot back.
>>>
>>> I don't know about California.
>>>
>>> On thinking on it...
>>> In Texas, the governor goes jogging without a security detachement - in
>>> California the governor probably has a protection detail.
>>>
>>
>> Just to keep from getting shot, not keep him from being bitten by coyotes
>> ...
>
> Which is quite interesting as California has the most draconian gun laws
> between the two states. How could it be that the governor in California
> would feel more at risk since they have such restrictive gun laws, while
> the
> governor in Texas doesn't require a security detail despite having less
> restrictive gun laws?

The governor of Texas prolly carries and would shoot back?

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

15/05/2010 11:59 PM

"Thos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
> state income tax...minimal whimps...
> COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great weather...does it
> really get any better?

County Line - Austin!

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 5:53 PM

"Dave In Texas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Thos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
>>> state income tax...minimal whimps...
>>> COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great weather...does it
>>> really get any better?
>>
>> County Line - Austin!
>
> Taste is a personal thing but I doubt County Line cracks the Top 100.

Could be, but I never spent much time in Texas to know (other than four
months at Lackland AFB). It sure beats what we have here.

> Luling City Market gets my vote and my business - regularly. I hear
> there's a couple of top-rated joints just up the road in Lockhart, too.
>
> Dave in Houston

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 5:59 PM

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 5/16/2010 3:20 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On May 16, 1:17 am, "Thos"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
>>> state
>>> income tax...minimal whimps...
>>> COME ON DOWN!!
>>
>> Naaa... If I want some of that 'culture' I will soak in it in Alberta
>> Canada.
>> The fact there are no wimps in Alberta, is a gimme, because none exist
>> in Canada.
>
> Indeed, Texas has its fair share of wimps ... but most weren't born here.
> Well, except perhaps for the current crop of yuppie puppies.
>
> In the last 30 years, in cultural attitudes, spirit of laws, and the
> demographics of rural land ownership, it is almost indistinguishable from
> the Mid West or NE.
>
> AAMOF, traveling through the country on tours in the last twenty years and
> you quickly note that regional differences are basically extinct in the
> US.
>
> Wal-Mart and the golden arches are everywhere ...

And it's been getting worse and worse since the early 1980s. I used to
travel a fair amount on business and typically got taken to lunch by the
local customer or our sales rep. Inevitably ended up in some place
indistinguishable from the last three towns on the trip. Only way to get
away from it is to get out of the cities and off the freeways. And even then
you still find the chains like McD's.

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

16/05/2010 9:21 PM

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On 5/16/2010 3:20 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>>> On May 16, 1:17 am, "Thos"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some stones....no
>>>>> state
>>>>> income tax...minimal whimps...
>>>>> COME ON DOWN!!
>>>>
>>>> Naaa... If I want some of that 'culture' I will soak in it in Alberta
>>>> Canada.
>>>> The fact there are no wimps in Alberta, is a gimme, because none exist
>>>> in Canada.
>>>
>>> Indeed, Texas has its fair share of wimps ... but most weren't born
>>> here.
>>> Well, except perhaps for the current crop of yuppie puppies.
>>>
>>> In the last 30 years, in cultural attitudes, spirit of laws, and the
>>> demographics of rural land ownership, it is almost indistinguishable
>>> from
>>> the Mid West or NE.
>>>
>>> AAMOF, traveling through the country on tours in the last twenty years
>>> and you quickly note that regional differences are basically extinct in
>>> the US.
>>>
>>> Wal-Mart and the golden arches are everywhere ...
>>
>> And it's been getting worse and worse since the early 1980s. I used to
>> travel a fair amount on business and typically got taken to lunch by the
>> local customer or our sales rep. Inevitably ended up in some place
>> indistinguishable from the last three towns on the trip. Only way to get
>> away from it is to get out of the cities and off the freeways. And even
>> then you still find the chains like McD's.
>
> That's not necessarily a bad thing. (OK, except for McD's). At least
> uniformity of product and quality is present. I've been in lots of places
> where a good chain would have been welcome because the local service/food
> was so bad.

Hey you got to take Some risks in life. Though SWMBO will no longer eat in
places with painted saws on the walls ...

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

13/05/2010 7:01 AM

Buerste wrote:
>
>> Texas:
>> #1. Governor spends $1.23 on a .380 ACP Gold Dot Hollow Point and he
>> and the dog keep jogging.
>>
>> And we wonder why California is Broke?
>>
>
> $1.23??? Shoot the damn coyote 5 times with cast bullets in reloads!
> Cost: $0.15

Casting lead bullets is probably illegal in California (and soon the rest of
the country). Little brown babies may chew on the bullets causing them to
grow up stupid (whether correlation, coincidence, or causation is
undetermined).

It's for the children.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

17/05/2010 6:49 AM

On 5/16/2010 10:45 PM, Mark & Juanita wrote:

> That's not necessarily a bad thing. (OK, except for McD's). At least
> uniformity of product and quality is present. I've been in lots of places
> where a good chain would have been welcome because the local service/food
> was so bad.

That's true, but variety being the spice of life, next door to the fast
food chain ticky tacky boxes in many small towns of the country are
little jewels of places to eat just waiting to be discovered:

A family owned chinese restaurant in an out of way strip center in the
little town of Synder, NW of Abilene, in West Texas serves the best old
timey "country style" breakfast you'll find anywhere on the planet. (It
was the pickups in front at 5AM, on otherewise deserted streets, which
gave up its well guarded secret). I mean breakfast, in a chinese
restaurant, fercrissakes ...!

Between McD' and BK's in Giddings, TX is a clean, sparkling, bright
yellow building about 100' off Hwy 290 run by an hispanic family.
"Taqueria Chihuahua" makes the biggest, and absolute best, breakfast
burrito on the planet. A #9 (scrambled eggs, sausage, bacon and cheese)
with hot sauce (rojo), will take two hands to hold and stick to your
ribs 'til lunch. Be prepared to stand in line between 5 and 9 AM ... oh,
and watch those pickups backing onto the highway.

There's a theme there ... at least in Texas. :)

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Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

17/05/2010 11:15 AM

Thos wrote:
> Welcome to Texas! Gun laws done right...a Gov. with some
> stones....no state income tax...minimal whimps...
> COME ON DOWN!! And we know how to do some BBQ...great weather...does
> it really get any better? I don't think so....
> And think about it...if "the big one" hits...you can go to the beach
> in Albuquerque! lol...
>

You're right that our gun laws have been relaxed. The previous gun law (from
1876) read: "No person shall carry on or about his person, purse, portfolio,
or saddlebag any pistol, dirk, dagger, Bowie Knife or any other knife made
for the purpose of offense or defense, knuckles made of brass or any hard
metal..."

Still, there are improvements in the works:
* Open carry
* Carry in schools - mainly colleges - with a concealed handgun license
* Parking lots of employers who nearly itch to death over the concept of a
gun

We can already concealed carry (with license) in places that serve alcohol,
churches, any building owned or used by an agency of government (except
schools, jails, and courts), hospitals, the car, unsecured areas of
airports, fair grounds, amusement parks, libraries, parks, and lots of other
places some states frown on.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to Larry Jaques on 12/05/2010 6:15 AM

12/05/2010 10:16 AM

Larry Jaques wrote:
> P.S: Also from Texas is this boycott story from Victoria:
> http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212300776.shtml
> (Surely, Lew will be coming along to point out the obvious bigotry of
> the article and the poster. ;)

There is an easy solution to the illegal immigrant problem: we all move to
Mexico.
------------------

Of course, you won't be able to work...start a business, yes; work, no
except in special situations.

You can join Seguridad Social (social security) for a rather modest sum but
not much need, doctors have a more realistic sense of their value than do
those in the US. They speak Spanish and accept cash.

If you are there on a tourist card, you will have to leave the country over
night every six months; doesn't have to be to the US, though, any country
will do. If you have a visa you will have either FM-2 or FM-3. With both,
you'll have to prove that you have sufficient funds (considerable) to not
become a burden on the country; both have to be renewed annually; with one,
you may be able to work - employer has to vouch for you - but generally not
unless you have some special skill not available from Mexican
citizens...teaching English is one if you don't mind the low pay.

You'll need to learn enough Spanish to deal with common situations,
especially immigration as all official business - and signs - is in Spanish.
It is OK to take a (paid) interpreter with you. Most all retail business
and signage is in Spanish too. Hint: if you want to buy replacement light
bulbs for the low (25) wattage ones in your rental abode, ask for "focos".

You can take a car with US plates but you won't be able to renew them unless
you have a permanent address in the US; NP, the Mexican cops don't care if
the plates are out of date (US ones do so don't drive back to the US).

Speaking of Mexican cops, you should learn how to handle "mordidas".
Literally, that means "bites"...a bribe...what a Mexican transito cop tries
to extract when he sees you driving around with US plates. If you don't
pony up he will want to take your driver's license so you have to go to the
cop house - and pay a fine - to reclaim it. Usually, that is a hollow
threat but if not you could just give him one of your dozen or so xeroxes of
the International Driver's License that you were smart enough to get. You
can also get a Mexican driver's license (don't show it to the cop) after you
learn enough Spanish to get around.

When you rent, be sure the place already has a phone. If not, look forward
to a long wait and paying around $1,000 to get one; the money also gets you
"acciones" (stock) in the company which you can turn around and sell to
recover part of the money; of course, you'll have to know Spanish to write
and run your classified ad. BTW, when you rent you may have to come up with
a "fiador"; that is someone who vouches for you and who will come up with
the rent if you don't. Also BTW, rents aren't cheap unless you like
ramshakle.

You may have difficulty opening a bank account even if you walk in and plunk
$5,000 down on the counter. Persevere...you need one to get a debit card
and you'll need that to pay bills since only that or cash is generally used
(no checks). You *could* keep your cash at home but thievery - petty or
not - is not unknown.

-----------------

Say, wait a minute...instead of all of us moving to Mexico, why don't we
just change our immigration laws and way of doing things to the Mexican
syle?

--

dadiOH
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