You can use just about any hydrocarbon solvent. You can even use
acetone but it's really for spraying heavy coats. I like odorless mineral
spirits, thinning about 20%. It enables you to maintain a wet edge while
brushing. If you want really slow evaporating, try about 10 drops of
kerosene per pint of polyurethane.
Good Luck.
"Chronos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi guys,
>
> I have been using Minwax Poly products. Most products say not to thin
> poly products. But, I feel the poly products are to thick for my needs.
> What's the best thinner to add to poly products.
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Michael
If he thinks acetone is bad (which of course, it is), he should have
used carbon tet as a child, to clean various items...
Dave
J. Clarke wrote:
> Han wrote:
>
>
>>"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:ln_le.6704$_z6.321345
>>@twister.southeast.rr.com:
>>
>>
>>>Be careful wit hacetone. It is REALLY toxic.
>>>
>>
>>If you acetone, that's fairly innocuous. Certainly not as toxic as
>>benzene.
>
>
> Stoutman has his knickers in a twist about acetone for some reason. There
> was a long, long thread on this a while back.
>
"Chronos" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:EbWle.417
> I have been using Minwax Poly products. Most products say not to thin
> poly products. But, I feel the poly products are to thick for my needs.
> What's the best thinner to add to poly products.
Any chance it lists a thinner on the side of the can?
"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:ln_le.6704$_z6.321345
@twister.southeast.rr.com:
> Be careful wit hacetone. It is REALLY toxic.
>
If you acetone, that's fairly innocuous. Certainly not as toxic as
benzene.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Stoutman has his knickers in a twist about acetone for some reason.
> There was a long, long thread on this a while back.
>
Then, for his benefitthe following:
Acetone is (a component of) one of the normal metabolites of glucose. If
someone has a problem in his/her metabolism then you can smell acetone on
his/her breath. This is an indication of a problem, but not the cause, and
the toxicity of acetone is low. However, since pure acetone will denature
proteins, it is ***very bad*** to administer the liquid internally or
systemically. Externally there should not be a problem with small
quantities.
See:
<http://www.westga.edu/
~chem/courses/chem1152/lectures/112Ap1599a/sld016.htm>
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
David <[email protected]> wrote in news:6cOdnXOP6vneMQXfRVn-
[email protected]:
> If he thinks acetone is bad (which of course, it is), he should have
> used carbon tet as a child, to clean various items...
>
I hope you forgot the sarcasm symbol, because of the respective MSDSs:
For "carbon tet"
From <http://www.matheson-trigas.com/msds/MAT04310.pdf>
POTENTIAL HEALTH EFFECTS:
INHALATION:
SHORT TERM EXPOSURE: irritation, digestive disorders, headache, symptoms
of drunkenness, lung congestion, kidney damage, liver damage, effects on
the brain, convulsions, coma
LONG TERM EXPOSURE: visual disturbances, reproductive effects, cancer
SKIN CONTACT:
SHORT TERM EXPOSURE: same as effects reported in short term inhalation,
rash, symptoms of drunkenness, kidney damage, liver damage
LONG TERM EXPOSURE: same as effects reported in long term inhalation
EYE CONTACT:
SHORT TERM EXPOSURE: no information on significant adverse effects
LONG TERM EXPOSURE: no information is available
INGESTION:
SHORT TERM EXPOSURE: same as effects reported in short term inhalation,
symptoms of drunkenness, lung congestion, kidney damage, liver damage
LONG TERM EXPOSURE: cancer
For acetone,
From <http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/A0446.htm>
Potential Health Effects
----------------------------------
Inhalation:
Inhalation of vapors irritates the respiratory tract. May cause coughing,
dizziness, dullness, and headache. Higher concentrations can produce
central nervous system depression, narcosis, and unconsciousness.
Ingestion:
Swallowing small amounts is not likely to produce harmful effects.
Ingestion of larger amounts may produce abdominal pain, nausea and
vomiting. Aspiration into lungs can produce severe lung damage and is a
medical emergency. Other symptoms are expected to parallel inhalation.
Skin Contact:
Irritating due to defatting action on skin. Causes redness, pain, drying
and cracking of the skin.
Eye Contact:
Vapors are irritating to the eyes. Splashes may cause severe irritation,
with stinging, tearing, redness and pain.
Chronic Exposure:
Prolonged or repeated skin contact may produce severe irritation or
dermatitis.
Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions:
Use of alcoholic beverages enhances toxic effects. Exposure may increase
the toxic potential of chlorinated hydrocarbons, such as chloroform,
trichloroethane.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
"stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Hey Clarke. Should we take Han's word for it?
Not my words, but I certainly trust them. It's science, and I *can* get to
the real meaning of them. It's my training that enables me.
> Maybe you should post your Entheology link. After all, it is more
> credible. Right?
Had to look up entheology. I never heard of it before. Qualifier: In my
opinion: Now I wish I hadn't looked it up ... What a load of crap.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Hey Clarke. Should we take Han's word for it? Maybe you should post your
Entheology link. After all, it is more credible. Right?
"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Stoutman has his knickers in a twist about acetone for some reason.
>> There was a long, long thread on this a while back.
>>
> Then, for his benefitthe following:
>
> Acetone is (a component of) one of the normal metabolites of glucose. If
> someone has a problem in his/her metabolism then you can smell acetone on
> his/her breath. This is an indication of a problem, but not the cause,
> and
> the toxicity of acetone is low. However, since pure acetone will denature
> proteins, it is ***very bad*** to administer the liquid internally or
> systemically. Externally there should not be a problem with small
> quantities.
>
> See:
> <http://www.westga.edu/
> ~chem/courses/chem1152/lectures/112Ap1599a/sld016.htm>
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid
Han wrote:
> "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:ln_le.6704$_z6.321345
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
>
>> Be careful wit hacetone. It is REALLY toxic.
>>
>
> If you acetone, that's fairly innocuous. Certainly not as toxic as
> benzene.
Stoutman has his knickers in a twist about acetone for some reason. There
was a long, long thread on this a while back.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Han wrote:
> "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Hey Clarke. Should we take Han's word for it?
>
> Not my words, but I certainly trust them. It's science, and I *can* get
> to
> the real meaning of them. It's my training that enables me.
>
>> Maybe you should post your Entheology link. After all, it is more
>> credible. Right?
>
> Had to look up entheology. I never heard of it before. Qualifier: In my
> opinion: Now I wish I hadn't looked it up ... What a load of crap.
The page to which he is referring is on the Canadian Centre for Occupational
Safety and Health (the Canadian government's equivalent of OSHA in the US)
site at
<http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/chem_profiles/acetone/health_ace.html>.
The reason he is on about "entheology" is that there is a copy of that page
at <http://www.entheology.org/tips-acetone/acetone.htm>, which for some
reason was linked by by Paul Kierstad in the earlier thread on March 12
instead of the "official" page. He seems to think that if he shouts
"entheology" enough then that will somehow discredit the Canadian
government.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
In article <[email protected]>,
Chronos <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have been using Minwax Poly products. Most products say not to thin
> poly products. But, I feel the poly products are to thick for my needs.
> What's the best thinner to add to poly products.
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Michael
I always start off with a piss coat. 20% thinner or more. It crawls
deeper into the fibrous structure of the wood, due to penetrability and
capillary action... IOW..it sucks in deeper. Then the rest of the coats
at norbal [sic] strength.
Be careful wit hacetone. It is REALLY toxic.
"Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You can use just about any hydrocarbon solvent. You can even use
> acetone but it's really for spraying heavy coats. I like odorless mineral
> spirits, thinning about 20%. It enables you to maintain a wet edge while
> brushing. If you want really slow evaporating, try about 10 drops of
> kerosene per pint of polyurethane.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> "Chronos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I have been using Minwax Poly products. Most products say not to thin
>> poly products. But, I feel the poly products are to thick for my needs.
>> What's the best thinner to add to poly products.
>>
>> Thanks guys,
>>
>> Michael
>
>
On Sat, 28 May 2005 08:44:20 GMT, Chronos <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>I have been using Minwax Poly products. Most products say not to thin
>poly products.
That would be the Gov't talking, not the manufacturer. Making the
product thick keeps them within the VOC regulations.
>What's the best thinner to add to poly products.
Mineral spirits for the one you ask about.
Barry
Now if I could only learn to play the violin...
"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "stoutman" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Hey Clarke. Should we take Han's word for it?
>
> Not my words, but I certainly trust them. It's science, and I *can* get
> to
> the real meaning of them. It's my training that enables me.
>
>> Maybe you should post your Entheology link. After all, it is more
>> credible. Right?
>
> Had to look up entheology. I never heard of it before. Qualifier: In my
> opinion: Now I wish I hadn't looked it up ... What a load of crap.
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid
"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Here we go again...
>
> Is the dust collector grounded?
I used to have problems with the ground wire floating around the PVC when I
turned on the blower. To keep it in place, I've weighted it down by tying
it to a gallon can of acetone and just let it hand. .