RH

"Rob H."

30/10/2008 4:15 AM

What is it? Set 256

The latest set has been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


This topic has 23 replies

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[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 2:52 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>The latest set has been posted:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob

#1452 Depth stop for auger bit.

scott

Ku

Kenneth

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 5:53 PM

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:33:43 GMT, "Rich Grise, Plainclothes
Hippie" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:15:00 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>1451: Gag scissors to confuse your acidhead buddies. ;-)
>
>Cheers!
>Rich
>

1449: a turkey call...

The pyramid shaped piece of wood has rosin on it and with a
push of the rod rubs in the "lid" making the sound.

Our turkeys are not particularly impressed...

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

PH

"Paul Hovnanian P.E."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 6:36 PM

Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>
> 1451 Shredder. I've seen an ad for these/this. It is a poor-person's
> paper/credit card shredder. As sold on TV, for about about what a cheap
> electric paper shredder goes for. To cut up credit cards or mailed credit
> card offers or other stuff.
>
> A neighbor of mine has a bumper sticker that says: "Free Tibet". Every time
> I see it, I can't help thinking: "Just Pay Shipping and Handling".

Free the Mallocs!

(A software joke)

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:[email protected]
------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you left the stove on.

hm

humunculus

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

01/11/2008 11:58 PM

On Nov 1, 7:42=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>http://answers256-8.blogspot.com/
>
> > It might work for something large and convex like a wheel rim, but with=
out
> > support behind the belt, it doesn't look much good for sanding flat
> > pieces. =A0I wonder if a plane could shape and smooth straight pieces
> > better, anyway.
>
> > I wonder of some wagon parts needed depressions in edges. =A0Could the
> > eyelets have held the ends of a roller that would push the belt out to
> > create a depression in a workpiece? =A0The amount the belt was pushed o=
ut
> > and the angle of the roller with respect to the belt's travel could be
> > adjusted.
>
> Sounds possible, but I don't know if any wagon parts needed depressions. =
=A0I
> agree that it was mostly for the edges of boards and wheel parts.
>
> Rob

What about to hold a bag to catch the dust?

Don't really know how that might attach or work, but it seems
ludicrious that the same ingenuity that could make a belt-driven
sander would use it in a dusty, choking environment and not figure out
how to deal with the dust...
--riverman

JM

John Martin

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 5:47 PM

On Oct 30, 3:15=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> The latest set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1452: Auger bit depth gauge.

John Martin

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 5:48 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
>> Anyone know the purpose of the large eyelets on the light colored
>> pieces of
>> wood on the belt sander?
>
>
> My theory of the purpose for the eyelets, and the answers for this
> week's set can be seen at this address:
>
> http://answers256-8.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

It might work for something large and convex like a wheel rim, but
without support behind the belt, it doesn't look much good for sanding
flat pieces. I wonder if a plane could shape and smooth straight pieces
better, anyway.

I wonder of some wagon parts needed depressions in edges. Could the
eyelets have held the ends of a roller that would push the belt out to
create a depression in a workpiece? The amount the belt was pushed out
and the angle of the roller with respect to the belt's travel could be
adjusted.

ch

cavelamb himself

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

02/11/2008 11:29 AM

humunculus wrote:
> On Oct 31, 9:25 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>Yepp, the things i have seen have the upper belts to some central steam
>>>engine, or some water wheel (oops, correct word?). uhm, here it is ...
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel
>>>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserrad
>>>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_(Maschinenbau)
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_shaft
>>
>>Thanks for the link on the line shaft, I was looking for a photo of one but
>>didn't know the exact term for it.
>>
>>Anyone know the purpose of the large eyelets on the light colored pieces of
>>wood on the belt sander?
>>
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>Rob
>
>
> Here's a picture of it at the HFM. No clues in the pic, though.
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/1770675860_4c6ce8aaa3.jpg?v=0
>
> --riverman

"remote control"

--

Richard

(remove the X to email)

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

02/11/2008 2:06 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> http://answers256-8.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>> It might work for something large and convex like a wheel rim, but
>> without support behind the belt, it doesn't look much good for sanding
>> flat pieces. I wonder if a plane could shape and smooth straight
>> pieces better, anyway.
>>
>> I wonder of some wagon parts needed depressions in edges. Could the
>> eyelets have held the ends of a roller that would push the belt out to
>> create a depression in a workpiece? The amount the belt was pushed
>> out and the angle of the roller with respect to the belt's travel
>> could be adjusted.
>
>
> Sounds possible, but I don't know if any wagon parts needed
> depressions. I agree that it was mostly for the edges of boards and
> wheel parts.
>
> Rob

I've found a couple of pictures of axle supports (whatever the right
name is) with depressions:
http://www.wheelsthatwonthewest.com/Media/Studebaker_A_608010A/Stude-608010A-1041.jpg
http://smithbuggiesandlivestock.com/images/2007/07%20buggies/cropped%20gear.jpg

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 5:10 PM

> On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:33:43 GMT, "Rich Grise, Plainclothes
> Hippie" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:15:00 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>1451: Gag scissors to confuse your acidhead buddies. ;-)
>>

Yeah, or herb shears.

LLoyd

EZ

E Z Peaces

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 1:20 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> The latest set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1447: I believe power derived from water, horses, or steam was often
transmitted through factories by belts. This could be a power takeoff.
You would place it along the belt path, thread the belt around the
four big rollers, and tighten four lines to keep the frame in place.

That would give you two smaller rollers to drive belts for two machines.
Changing those two rollers would change the speed of the machines
relative to the speed of the main belt.

hm

humunculus

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

02/11/2008 12:12 AM

On Oct 31, 9:25=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yepp, the things i have seen have the upper belts to some central steam
> > engine, or some water wheel (oops, correct word?). uhm, here it is ...
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel
> >http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserrad
> >http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_(Maschinenbau)
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_shaft
>
> Thanks for the link on the line shaft, I was looking for a photo of one b=
ut
> didn't know the exact term for it.
>
> Anyone know the purpose of the large eyelets on the light colored pieces =
of
> wood on the belt sander?
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

Here's a picture of it at the HFM. No clues in the pic, though.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2285/1770675860_4c6ce8aaa3.jpg?v=3D0

--riverman

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 6:09 AM

1451 Shredder. I've seen an ad for these/this. It is a poor-person's
paper/credit card shredder. As sold on TV, for about about what a cheap
electric paper shredder goes for. To cut up credit cards or mailed credit
card offers or other stuff.

A neighbor of mine has a bumper sticker that says: "Free Tibet". Every time
I see it, I can't help thinking: "Just Pay Shipping and Handling".


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The latest set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

CS

"Christian Stüben"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 5:24 PM

1447 steam powered band saw? or belt sander?

1448 growing help for tomatoes?

1449..1452 they are clearly used for, erh, yes, ehm, i dont know. i will use
the telephone joker.

greetings from germany
chris

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 3:18 PM



> 1447 steam powered band saw? or belt sander?


Belt sander is correct, looks like it was powered from above by belts and
pulleys.


Rob

CS

"Christian Stüben"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 7:52 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
>> 1447 steam powered band saw? or belt sander?
> Belt sander is correct, looks like it was powered from above by belts and
> pulleys.

Yepp, the things i have seen have the upper belts to some central steam
engine, or some water wheel (oops, correct word?). uhm, here it is ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserrad
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_(Maschinenbau)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_shaft

hey, grrreat, the german article is much bigger than the english one ;-)

grettings from germany
chris

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 9:15 AM



>1452: Auger bit depth gauge.


Yes, as also mentioned by Scott L., it's for attaching to an auger bit so
you can drill a hole to a specific depth.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 9:25 AM

> Yepp, the things i have seen have the upper belts to some central steam
> engine, or some water wheel (oops, correct word?). uhm, here it is ...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_wheel
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserrad
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_(Maschinenbau)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_shaft


Thanks for the link on the line shaft, I was looking for a photo of one but
didn't know the exact term for it.

Anyone know the purpose of the large eyelets on the light colored pieces of
wood on the belt sander?

http://55tools.blogspot.com/



Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 4:10 PM


> Anyone know the purpose of the large eyelets on the light colored pieces
> of
> wood on the belt sander?


My theory of the purpose for the eyelets, and the answers for this week's
set can be seen at this address:

http://answers256-8.blogspot.com/


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 7:42 PM


>> http://answers256-8.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> It might work for something large and convex like a wheel rim, but without
> support behind the belt, it doesn't look much good for sanding flat
> pieces. I wonder if a plane could shape and smooth straight pieces
> better, anyway.
>
> I wonder of some wagon parts needed depressions in edges. Could the
> eyelets have held the ends of a roller that would push the belt out to
> create a depression in a workpiece? The amount the belt was pushed out
> and the angle of the roller with respect to the belt's travel could be
> adjusted.


Sounds possible, but I don't know if any wagon parts needed depressions. I
agree that it was mostly for the edges of boards and wheel parts.

Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

04/11/2008 3:53 PM

> I've found a couple of pictures of axle supports (whatever the right name
> is) with depressions:
> http://www.wheelsthatwonthewest.com/Media/Studebaker_A_608010A/Stude-608010A-1041.jpg
> http://smithbuggiesandlivestock.com/images/2007/07%20buggies/cropped%20gear.jpg


Hard to say for sure if this idea is correct or not, I've sent an email to
the curators at the museum, we'll see if they can shed any light on the use
of these parts.


Rob

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 7:42 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Quite a tough lot this week.

1447 - Possibly a belt sander, and if so, a rather early version I
suspect.

1448 - Maybe to keep hair in place? Although I'd think the more typical
implements (scrunchies, springy overhead comb band thingies, crescent
and dagger thingamabobies) would be far easier to use and far less
likely to pull. I myself have a buzz cut, so I'm not really too current
with hair control apparatuses.

1449 - Does this possibly dole out something one at time from a stack or
hopper, say playing cards for a gambling game?

1450 - Specialized hatchet for, ummm...maybe slate roofing?

1451 - Paper shredding scissors, for destroying sensitive documents in
the absence of more automated devices to do the same.

1452 - I'm guessing maybe the top photo exists mostly to throw us
off--these wouldn't be used in this manner in practice. These look to
perhaps be some sort of fence attachment for a specialized moulding or
rabbeting plane, Stanley being of course known for making planes (among
other tools).

Now to see the other guesses, and probably imprint my hand upon my
forehead.

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

RG

"Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

30/10/2008 7:33 PM

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:15:00 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

1451: Gag scissors to confuse your acidhead buddies. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 30/10/2008 4:15 AM

31/10/2008 1:34 AM

On 2008-10-30, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> The latest set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.


1447) Weird beastie. Obviously designed for overhead flat belt
drive operation.

I think that the larger steel pulleys are sanding belt pulleys,
and are driven by the wooden pulleys from overhead belts.

The slight crowning on the metal cylinders keeps the sanding
belts running centered.

1448) Hmm ... I could see them being used inside flexible tubing
to keep it from collapsing when a vacuum is pulled on the
tubing.

1449) I *think* that this is some form of noisemaker. But I'm not
sure.

1450) I think that this is to be driven into the end of a log
to start it splitting. It obviously was cast for the purpose
and never had what would otherwise be it normal edge (as a
hatchet) sharpened.

1451) Manually powered document shredder? Maybe for checks or
something else small. Maybe for credit cards?

1452) Something to hold two pieces of wood in the right position to
make a picture frame? I associate Stanley mostly (but not
entirely) with woodworking tools.

Now to see what others have said.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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