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"Toller"

20/11/2006 6:17 PM

Tightening the collar on a router bit

I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a collar that
holds it in place with a little set screw.

The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't get
it tight enough to use.


This topic has 13 replies

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 12:02 PM


Toller wrote:
> I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a collar that
> holds it in place with a little set screw.
>
> The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
> the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't get
> it tight enough to use.

You have to torque them to German specs.

Guedantite [good an tight] N. - A fastener that has been torqued to the
point of stripping then backed off a quarter turn.

Ds

"DonkeyHody"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 12:22 PM



> I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a collar that
> holds it in place with a little set screw.
>
> The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
> the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't get
> it tight enough to use.

The only job of that collar and set screw is to keep the bearing from
sliding down the shaft. If you're sure you won't need to use the bit
without the bearing, just apply some Locktite Stud & Bearing adhesive
to glue the bearing to the shaft. Then you can go without the collar
if you want.

DonkeyHody
"Every man is my superior in that I can learn from him." - Thomas
Carlyle

Ll

"Locutus"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 3:13 PM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 6:17pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Toller)
> <snip> Am I doing something wrong <snip>
>
> Mind you, this is just a WAG on my part, but I'd say YES.
>

Well that sure was helpful...

JJ

in reply to "Locutus" on 20/11/2006 3:13 PM

20/11/2006 7:33 PM

Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 3:13pm [email protected] (Locutus) doth
sayeth:
Well that sure was helpful...

I don't read minds - he only asked the one question, so that's
what I answered.. I figured if he had wantd to know what he might be
doing wrong he'd have asked. Was Ithat wong?



JOAT
Democratic justice. One man, one rock.

JJ

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 2:08 PM

Mon, Nov 20, 2006, 6:17pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Toller)
<snip> Am I doing something wrong <snip>

Mind you, this is just a WAG on my part, but I'd say YES.



JOAT
Democratic justice. One man, one rock.

RK

"Roger King"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 11:45 PM

As a guess, I'd say the allen head socket is a metric size and you're using
a standard allen wrench which won't fit correctly. Take the bit (with screw)
to a tool store (maybe auto parts) and see if you can find the proper size
allen wrench.


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a collar
>that holds it in place with a little set screw.
>
> The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
> the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't
> get it tight enough to use.
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 9:08 PM


"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a collar
>that holds it in place with a little set screw.
>
> The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
> the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't
> get it tight enough to use.
>
.
ARE you using the correct sized Allen wrench? That will happen if you are
using metric instead of SAE and visa versa.

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

21/11/2006 5:40 PM


> The only job of that collar and set screw is to keep the bearing from
> sliding down the shaft. If you're sure you won't need to use the bit
> without the bearing, just apply some Locktite Stud & Bearing adhesive
> to glue the bearing to the shaft. Then you can go without the collar
> if you want.
>
Can you ever get it off again?

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 7:56 PM

Toller wrote:
> I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a
collar that
> holds it in place with a little set screw.
>
> The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced
it, and
> the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I
can't get
> it tight enough to use.

Use some Loctite, then bring screw up just snug.

Lew

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

21/11/2006 1:02 AM

As others have said, make sure you have the right size wrench. The most
common cause of a screw coming loose is that it was never tightened
sufficiently in the first place. Lctite is just glue. If the screw is loose,
Loctite will do nothing but glue it in a permanently loose condition. There
is a lot of friction between threads when tightening a screw. So much so
that the threads will seize before the bolt is really tight. A good thread
lube will eliminate the seizing problem. Antiseize will allow you to get the
screw tight and it will stay that way. A bit counterintuitive but it works.
I have been using this in extreme industrial situations for years with
excellent results.

"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a collar
that
> holds it in place with a little set screw.
>
> The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
> the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't
get
> it tight enough to use.
>
>

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

22/11/2006 12:55 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The only job of that collar and set screw is to keep the bearing from
>> sliding down the shaft. If you're sure you won't need to use the bit
>> without the bearing, just apply some Locktite Stud & Bearing adhesive
>> to glue the bearing to the shaft. Then you can go without the collar
>> if you want.
>>
>Can you ever get it off again?

Depends on the grade of Loctite you use -- some are designed for disassembly,
others are not. Blue Loctite can be undone without much trouble.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

21/11/2006 5:41 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have a router bit with a bearing that goes on the shaft, and a collar
>>that holds it in place with a little set screw.
>>
>> The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
>> the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't
>> get it tight enough to use.
>>
> .
> ARE you using the correct sized Allen wrench? That will happen if you are
> using metric instead of SAE and visa versa.
The bearing came with a wrench. Also, I have a set of metric and SAE and on
the second one I used the one that fit best, but it stripped also. Cheap
wrenches?

MO

Mike O.

in reply to "Toller" on 20/11/2006 6:17 PM

20/11/2006 10:36 PM

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:17:44 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>The set screw head stripped ( the allen head socket). I replaced it, and
>the replacement stripped. Am I doing something wrong, or what? I can't get
>it tight enough to use.

You might check to be sure your using the correct allen wrench. Some
of the bearings are held on with metric sized allen screws.

Mike O.


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