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"dwdw1"

01/11/2005 3:57 AM

high impact scratch resistant finishes

Hi I'm hoping that some one on this site can helep me with a problem
which really involves carbon fibre rather than wood. I'm rebuilding a
carbon fibre fishing rod, and have got to the stage of giving it a
tough impact resistant finish. I've tried a few conventional types of
rod building varnish, but they quIckly scratch when in contact with a
wall or whatever. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be really grateful.
cheers
DW


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b

in reply to "dwdw1" on 01/11/2005 3:57 AM

01/11/2005 7:20 AM


dwdw1 wrote:
> Hi I'm hoping that some one on this site can helep me with a problem
> which really involves carbon fibre rather than wood. I'm rebuilding a
> carbon fibre fishing rod, and have got to the stage of giving it a
> tough impact resistant finish. I've tried a few conventional types of
> rod building varnish, but they quIckly scratch when in contact with a
> wall or whatever. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be really grateful.
> cheers
> DW

I would think some type of epoxy would be ideal for this purpose. I
don't have a specific brand recommendation but certain
brands/formulations have more of an emphasis on a particular
characteristic such as hardness, resistance to impact, etc. In this
case I'd think for a fishing rod you'd want an epoxy with a high
modulus of elasticity (so it doesn't crack the first time you land a
big one and it bends in half!).

Respectfully feel that some of the harsh criticism you're receiving is
a bit uncalled for. Many people would not be able to understand why we
build workbenches that are as beautiful as fine furniture; it's
possible to be obsessive about the beauty of a tool while still caring
about its function as well.

dd

"dwdw1"

in reply to "dwdw1" on 01/11/2005 3:57 AM

01/11/2005 8:18 AM

Many thanks for the helpful comments I 've recieved. I expected some
'silly smart arse' responses. With carbon fibre, repeated sharp blows
in the same location weaken the integrity of the fibre structure. The
scratches and chips are in themselves rather insignificant.although I
would like the rod to look pleasing aestheticallty as well as being
sound in a utilitarian sense. I shall have a look at the epoxys or
rubberised paints. This would help cushion any blows.
Agai thanks to those who took the time to give useful advice.
cheers
DW

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "dwdw1" on 01/11/2005 3:57 AM

01/11/2005 1:29 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "dwdw1" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi I'm hoping that some one on this site can helep me with a problem
>which really involves carbon fibre rather than wood. I'm rebuilding a
>carbon fibre fishing rod, and have got to the stage of giving it a
>tough impact resistant finish. I've tried a few conventional types of
>rod building varnish, but they quIckly scratch when in contact with a
>wall or whatever. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be really grateful.

The principal suggestion that occurs to me is to not be so AR about it. Is
this something only to be looked at, or to actually be used? If the former...
use whatever finish you like, and put it inside a nice glass case where it
won't get bunged up. If the latter... use whatever finish you like: it's a
fishing rod, for pete's sake, and the finish is going to get bunged up
eventually anyway. Unless you keep it inside a nice glass case and never use
it.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

an

alexy

in reply to "dwdw1" on 01/11/2005 3:57 AM

01/11/2005 12:49 PM

Guess who <[email protected]> wrote:

> As my daughter pointed out about
>her spotless new home, "Yes, but ours is a house, yours is a home."
>Now with a small child hers has quickly become a home.

Glad to see that the real estate profession has not yet succeeded in
eliminating that distinction from our language!
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

Bt

Bob the Tomato

in reply to "dwdw1" on 01/11/2005 3:57 AM

01/11/2005 11:15 PM

Flexcoat epoxy. Use the F1K for high build, or F1KL for lite build
(2+ coats). www.anglersworkshop.com (their website sucks, but their
paper catalog is fantastic.) Flexcoat makes epoxy finishes (which are
flexible and glossy) and rod builder's epoxy glue (which is neither)
for assembling cork handles, hypalon grips, reel seats, etc. Don't
confuse the two... you want the flexible finish epoxy. After you
brush it on, it tends to run and drip slowly, so you will need to make
or buy a rod turning motor, or turn it by hand until it sets up.

Bob the Tomato


On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:14:01 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"dwdw1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi I'm hoping that some one on this site can helep me with a problem
>> which really involves carbon fibre rather than wood. I'm rebuilding a
>> carbon fibre fishing rod, and have got to the stage of giving it a
>> tough impact resistant finish. I've tried a few conventional types of
>> rod building varnish, but they quIckly scratch when in contact with a
>> wall or whatever. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be really grateful.
>> cheers
>> DW
>>
>
>I've always used an epoxy specifically mfg'ed for rod building. I build
>the odd fly rod and have not had any issues with scratches/cracks/etc....
>You will need a small rod turning motor to apply it (more so for the curing
>actually) to ensure the epoxy stays smooth around the rod. I don't have a
>brand for ya at the moment but if you have trouble finding an epoxy, let me
>know and I'll dig mine up.
>Cheers,
>cc
>

Gw

Guess who

in reply to "dwdw1" on 01/11/2005 3:57 AM

01/11/2005 9:18 AM

On 1 Nov 2005 03:57:01 -0800, "dwdw1" <[email protected]> wrote:

>If anyone has any suggestions I'd be really grateful.

Yes. Stop posting questions that go along with what colour should I
paint my workbench. Leave the computer. Leave the workshop. Go
fishing and think about life and its small pleasures. Bung it up a
bit and it will develop character. As my daughter pointed out about
her spotless new home, "Yes, but ours is a house, yours is a home."
Now with a small child hers has quickly become a home.

JC

"James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"

in reply to "dwdw1" on 01/11/2005 3:57 AM

01/11/2005 7:14 AM


"dwdw1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi I'm hoping that some one on this site can helep me with a problem
> which really involves carbon fibre rather than wood. I'm rebuilding a
> carbon fibre fishing rod, and have got to the stage of giving it a
> tough impact resistant finish. I've tried a few conventional types of
> rod building varnish, but they quIckly scratch when in contact with a
> wall or whatever. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be really grateful.
> cheers
> DW
>

I've always used an epoxy specifically mfg'ed for rod building. I build
the odd fly rod and have not had any issues with scratches/cracks/etc....
You will need a small rod turning motor to apply it (more so for the curing
actually) to ensure the epoxy stays smooth around the rod. I don't have a
brand for ya at the moment but if you have trouble finding an epoxy, let me
know and I'll dig mine up.
Cheers,
cc


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