ZY

Zz Yzx

18/12/2010 1:00 PM

All I want for Christmas.......

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=1498#

What say you all chip in and get it for me? Deal?

-Zz


This topic has 14 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 12:19 PM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:02:58 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Dec 19, 9:30 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:30:07 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On Dec 18, 1:00 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=1498#
>>
>> >> What say you all chip in and get it for me?  Deal?
>>
>> >> -Zz
>>
>> >I'll take any swing chisel mortiser
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUJ796jxls
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_okz7yV1QPo
>>
>> And I want a 4x8' ShopBot (or better equivalent) and a copy of Vectric
>> Aspire CAD/CAM software.
>>
>
>JUST got Aspire V3 upgrade. One tool alone was worth the upgrade
>price. What a great bunch of guys to deal with. (You do know that the
>PartsWorks(sp?) from Shopbot is made by Vectric, yes? (No 3D
>capabilities though, AFAIK.)

Ah dinna know it. Googled and found "partworks", one 's'.


>No regrets I bought the General, but I would have been just as happy
>with a 'Bot.
>I expect my complete payback sometime summer '11

Complete ROI in less than a year? COOL!


>My business associate on the countertop side has just walked me
>through making a pen for Angela. He brought out some exotic wood
>chunks from his days as a missionary in the Venezuelan jungle and
>parked his lathe at my shop.... now that hobby isn't too addicting now
>izzit?

I never got turned on by those spinny things (aka "lathe"), but it
does have its minor uses, I guess.


>Now I am wanting an A-axis indexer, dammit...(Aspire already has that
>built in)... but there can't be any money in pens, can there?

I sure don't think so. Too many (decent) amateurs doing it nowadays.


>Does Festool make any pen mechanisms, Parker style?.... *slaps self*

As well you should. ;)

--
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government." --Edward Abbey

LA

Lil Abner <@Daisy.net>

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

21/12/2010 1:45 PM

On 12/18/2010 4:00 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
> http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=1498#
>
> What say you all chip in and get it for me? Deal?
>
> -Zz
Nice
I would like to have some, of the selection, my late Uncles had from who
knows how long ago.
I didn't much care for using them, as a
kid but was fascinated by them.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 6:53 PM

On Dec 19, 9:21=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Dec 19, 3:19 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:02:58 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> >> >JUST got Aspire V3 upgrade. One tool alone was worth the upgrade
> >> >price. What a great bunch of guys to deal with. (You do know that the
> >> >PartsWorks(sp?) from Shopbot is made by Vectric, yes? (No 3D
> >> >capabilities though, AFAIK.)
>
> >> Ah dinna know it. Googled and found "partworks", one 's'.
>
> >> >No regrets I bought the General, but I would have been just as happy
> >> >with a 'Bot.
> >> >I expect my complete payback sometime summer '11
>
> >> Complete ROI in less than a year? COOL!
>
> >Almost 2 years at that point. Still not too shabby.
> >Are you thinking servos or steppers on your Bot?
>
> Probably not a Bot, but a self-build. I'm still researching it and
> deciding whether or not to go into hock over it. =A0Probably steppers
> until I go full-bore and full-time, if I do.
>
> >I want to add a small one, with vacuum, and a spindle, maybe a Gorilla
> >Jr. or Shopbot Buddy, that way I won't tie up the 4x8 whilst the
> >little one is carving its little guts out all night and day. Figure on
> >an hour per square ft of you're doing any kind of textured
> >backgrounds.
>
> Yeah, I hear that. =A0I could always use my homemade unit for that and a
> larger setup for larger commercial work. =A0What kind of noise is your
> setup putting out? =A090dB or so?
>
> >http://www.imaginationcorporation.ca/textures/index.html
> >Check out some of Dan's other pages. He's one of the wilder
> >Canuckistanis.
>
> Purty cool! =A0Bitmaps, eh? =A0I've done bits of texturing work for years
> in Photoshop, Painter, and Expression.

Yup, bitmaps. White is high, black is low... and 16 bit grey scale in
between.
That's pretty high res. on the Z plane. the x-y are vectors so
whatever the machine can resolve.
Alien Skin Eye Candy 5: Textures i Photoshop is a lot of fun.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 1:04 PM

On Dec 19, 3:19=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:02:58 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
>
> >JUST got Aspire V3 upgrade. One tool alone was worth the upgrade
> >price. What a great bunch of guys to deal with. (You do know that the
> >PartsWorks(sp?) from Shopbot is made by Vectric, yes? (No 3D
> >capabilities though, AFAIK.)
>
> Ah dinna know it. =A0Googled and found "partworks", one 's'.
>
> >No regrets I bought the General, but I would have been just as happy
> >with a 'Bot.
> >I expect my complete payback sometime summer '11
>
> Complete ROI in less than a year? =A0COOL!

Almost 2 years at that point. Still not too shabby.
Are you thinking servos or steppers on your Bot?
I want to add a small one, with vacuum, and a spindle, maybe a Gorilla
Jr. or Shopbot Buddy, that way I won't tie up the 4x8 whilst the
little one is carving its little guts out all night and day. Figure on
an hour per square ft of you're doing any kind of textured
backgrounds.
http://www.imaginationcorporation.ca/textures/index.html
Check out some of Dan's other pages. He's one of the wilder
Canuckistanis.
>
So would CNC become N routering as it will be C-Less one day soon?

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 7:57 AM

On Dec 18, 4:00=A0pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=3D1498#
>
> What say you all chip in and get it for me? =A0Deal?

How about we chip in and just get you the _two_ screwdrivers used to
adjust the plane? $50 to adjust two screws. Sheesh.

R

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

18/12/2010 3:30 PM

On Dec 18, 1:00=A0pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=3D1498#
>
> What say you all chip in and get it for me? =A0Deal?
>
> -Zz

I'll take any swing chisel mortiser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKJUJ796jxls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_okz7yV1QPo

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 10:02 AM

On Dec 19, 9:30=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:30:07 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Dec 18, 1:00=A0pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=3D1498#
>
> >> What say you all chip in and get it for me? =A0Deal?
>
> >> -Zz
>
> >I'll take any swing chisel mortiser
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKJUJ796jxls
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_okz7yV1QPo
>
> And I want a 4x8' ShopBot (or better equivalent) and a copy of Vectric
> Aspire CAD/CAM software.
>

JUST got Aspire V3 upgrade. One tool alone was worth the upgrade
price. What a great bunch of guys to deal with. (You do know that the
PartsWorks(sp?) from Shopbot is made by Vectric, yes? (No 3D
capabilities though, AFAIK.)
No regrets I bought the General, but I would have been just as happy
with a 'Bot.
I expect my complete payback sometime summer '11

My business associate on the countertop side has just walked me
through making a pen for Angela. He brought out some exotic wood
chunks from his days as a missionary in the Venezuelan jungle and
parked his lathe at my shop.... now that hobby isn't too addicting now
izzit?
Now I am wanting an A-axis indexer, dammit...(Aspire already has that
built in)... but there can't be any money in pens, can there?
Does Festool make any pen mechanisms, Parker style?.... *slaps self*

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 11:09 PM

That's not woodworking, it's manufacturing.

Cool machine anyway.

On 12/18/2010 9:31 PM, Upscale wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I'll take any swing chisel mortiser
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUJ796jxls
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_okz7yV1QPo
>
> Quite the machines. I guess with machines like that around, most of us would
> have to settle for the poor man's manually operated swing chisel mortiser
> and buy the Festool Domino. :)
>
>

ZY

Zz Yzx

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 5:24 PM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 07:57:52 -0800 (PST), RicodJour
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Dec 18, 4:00 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>> http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=1498#
>>
>> What say you all chip in and get it for me?  Deal?
>
>How about we chip in and just get you the _two_ screwdrivers used to
>adjust the plane?
>R

'k.

Rr

RP

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 9:11 AM

On Dec 18, 6:30=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 18, 1:00=A0pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=3D1498#
>
> > What say you all chip in and get it for me? =A0Deal?
>
> > -Zz
>
> I'll take any swing chisel mortiserhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKJUJ7=
96jxlshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_okz7yV1QPo

A fella would have to make a whole buncha "whatevers" to justify the
CNC swing mortiser. Sure beats my delta all to hell tho'

RP

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

18/12/2010 9:31 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I'll take any swing chisel mortiser
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUJ796jxls
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_okz7yV1QPo

Quite the machines. I guess with machines like that around, most of us would
have to settle for the poor man's manually operated swing chisel mortiser
and buy the Festool Domino. :)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 6:21 PM

On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Dec 19, 3:19 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:02:58 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>
>>
>> >JUST got Aspire V3 upgrade. One tool alone was worth the upgrade
>> >price. What a great bunch of guys to deal with. (You do know that the
>> >PartsWorks(sp?) from Shopbot is made by Vectric, yes? (No 3D
>> >capabilities though, AFAIK.)
>>
>> Ah dinna know it.  Googled and found "partworks", one 's'.
>>
>> >No regrets I bought the General, but I would have been just as happy
>> >with a 'Bot.
>> >I expect my complete payback sometime summer '11
>>
>> Complete ROI in less than a year?  COOL!
>
>Almost 2 years at that point. Still not too shabby.
>Are you thinking servos or steppers on your Bot?

Probably not a Bot, but a self-build. I'm still researching it and
deciding whether or not to go into hock over it. Probably steppers
until I go full-bore and full-time, if I do.


>I want to add a small one, with vacuum, and a spindle, maybe a Gorilla
>Jr. or Shopbot Buddy, that way I won't tie up the 4x8 whilst the
>little one is carving its little guts out all night and day. Figure on
>an hour per square ft of you're doing any kind of textured
>backgrounds.

Yeah, I hear that. I could always use my homemade unit for that and a
larger setup for larger commercial work. What kind of noise is your
setup putting out? 90dB or so?


>http://www.imaginationcorporation.ca/textures/index.html
>Check out some of Dan's other pages. He's one of the wilder
>Canuckistanis.

Purty cool! Bitmaps, eh? I've done bits of texturing work for years
in Photoshop, Painter, and Expression.


>So would CNC become N routering as it will be C-Less one day soon?

It's possiBULL.

--
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government." --Edward Abbey

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 6:30 AM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:30:07 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Dec 18, 1:00 pm, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
>> http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?grp=1498#
>>
>> What say you all chip in and get it for me?  Deal?
>>
>> -Zz
>
>I'll take any swing chisel mortiser
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJUJ796jxls
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_okz7yV1QPo

And I want a 4x8' ShopBot (or better equivalent) and a copy of Vectric
Aspire CAD/CAM software.

Thanks, guys and girls.

This'll be a swell Christmas!

--
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country
against his government." --Edward Abbey

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Zz Yzx on 18/12/2010 1:00 PM

19/12/2010 9:10 AM

On 12/18/2010 8:31 PM, Upscale wrote:

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_okz7yV1QPo
>
> Quite the machines. I guess with machines like that around, most of us would
> have to settle for the poor man's manually operated swing chisel mortiser
> and buy the Festool Domino. :)

LOL ... cool machine function but overkill for us chickens, just like
their background music ... worse than balloons at a used car lot.

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