In article
<[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> >
> >I could sit and watch a Linotype run for hours. I think it was the
> >inspiration for Rube Goldberg's output.
>
I missed the beginning of this, but have to join in. My father
was a Linotype operator and one of his brothers was the Linotype
salesman for, IIRC, Illinois and surrounding area.
This was before air conditioning and my fathers biggest
complaint was that the Linotype area was 20 degrees hotter than
the rest of the shop. And in Louisville in the summertime, the
rest of the shop was hotter than hades :-). The company (Slater
& Gilroy) had 3 or 4 Linotypes and they always seemed to be
surrounded by fans running at top speed :-).
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
In article <[email protected]>,
patrick conroy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:wsxEc.7305$z81.1537@fed1read01...
>>
>> Anyone know of a magazine(s) that is strictly based upon hand tools and no
>power tools?
>
>Ya' know if you were *really* going to be a purist about it, you'd by a
>magazine made by pre-Mergenthaler techniques!
>
>
>
>
>
>I can set cold type in a chase, sort them back into the typecase, and I know
>em's, en's, spaces and quads. I can run a Kluge platen press. I can't run a
>Linotype - Bob wouldn't let me near that baby. 'Xcept to melt the lead back
>into ingots.
I know of one still operational, and in (admittedly light-duty) production use.
>Don't get me started on the whole "font" vs. "typeface" mess...
I'm told it's a weighty problem -- getting a handle on the size of the family
of issues in type classification. Assuming you've got the proper slant on the
matter, that is. <grin>
In article <[email protected]>,
patrick conroy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>
>> I know of one still operational, and in (admittedly light-duty) production
>use.
>
>I could sit and watch a Linotype run for hours. I think it was the
>inspiration for Rube Goldberg's output.
You want a "co-incidence"? Goldberg was born the year the Linotype hit
the market.
BTW, if you're not familiar with it, look up a Science-Fiction short-story,
by the title of "Etaoin Shrdlu". It's a _good_ read. Albeit disquieting.
*ESPECIALLY* for those with familiarity with where the title comes from.
>We actually had two - that also saw light duty use. For some reason, we did
>our classifieds on it. I suspect it was to make reprinting the ad next week
>easier.
Undoubtedly. Particularly if you had lots of repeats. Just pull the slugs
for the dead ads, shove up the remainder, set the new ads, and rack 'em
below the re-runs. About 1/2 the labor of 'editing source' and re-outputting
to a photo-typesetter. Also photo-paper wasn't cheap and _was_ 'one time
use' material, while the lead was re-usable. Hot-type is less expensive,
but cold-type is faster.
Also an issue in the early days of photo-typesetting and 'offset' printing,
was the fact that small font sizes lacked the clarity/crispness of hot type/
letterpress.
>Ol' Bob really could read upside-down and backwards faster
Note: it's upside-down _or_ backwards. (It's "mirror-image", just like
a film negative.)
*All* it takes is practice. And _not_ all that much. It's also a skill
that, once learned, you practically never forget. I frequently "don't
notice" that I'm reading backwards, even today -- e.g. sign in a store
window that's meant to be read from the -other- side of glass. Sometimes
I notice that fact when I'm 3/4 of the way through the sign, sometimes
not. :)
> that I could
>setup the Galley Proof press and get copy out to the Proofin' Gals. Two
>ladies who "read aloud" to each other all day, every Tuesday.
And speaking all the punctuation, too.
>
>We has just obtained a new fangled photo typesetter - Singer, if I recall
>and it was seeing light use too. However once we hired a gal fresh out'a
>journalism school (who actually knew how to work it) it got more and more
>use. The type was on a "film wheel" as I recall.
>
>We had four or five Platen presses of various sizes. And a small offset
>press too.
>
>Looking back now - some 30 years later - I realize:
>- Bob was a real craftsman
>- And a true gentleman to take a punk kid like myself under his tutelage
>- I probably shouldn't have been running the platen presses at age 16
>- I probably inhaled more lead fumes that I should have... :)
>
>God bless you Robert Watson - thank you for the experience!
>
>
And don't forget the hiss of a mouthpiece that didn't seal correctly as it
sprayed your leg with molten lead. Learned real quick why that big Arkansas
stone was meant to be used on the mouthpiece regularly. Still have the
scars.
--
Dennis W. Ewing Sr
http://www.onewoodturn.com
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > >
> > >I could sit and watch a Linotype run for hours. I think it was the
> > >inspiration for Rube Goldberg's output.
> >
> I missed the beginning of this, but have to join in. My father
> was a Linotype operator and one of his brothers was the Linotype
> salesman for, IIRC, Illinois and surrounding area.
>
> This was before air conditioning and my fathers biggest
> complaint was that the Linotype area was 20 degrees hotter than
> the rest of the shop. And in Louisville in the summertime, the
> rest of the shop was hotter than hades :-). The company (Slater
> & Gilroy) had 3 or 4 Linotypes and they always seemed to be
> surrounded by fans running at top speed :-).
>
> --
> Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
I don't know of any magazines, but the books by Roy Underhill pop into mind.
My 2 cents.
Joe
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Anyone know of a magazine(s) that is strictly based upon hand tools and no
power tools?
>
> thanks all,
>
> Alex
>
>
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> said:
> Anyone know of a magazine(s) that is strictly based upon hand tools
The folks who neander don't have time to write ;)
--
Mac Cool
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 03:07:12 GMT, Mac Cool <[email protected]> wrote:
>"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> said:
>
>> Anyone know of a magazine(s) that is strictly based upon hand tools
>
>The folks who neander don't have time to write ;)
... and even if they did, their hands are shaking so badly from the
exertion that their writing can't be read. :-)
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<wsxEc.7305$z81.1537@fed1read01>...
> Anyone know of a magazine(s) that is strictly based upon hand tools and no power tools?
>
> thanks all,
>
> Alex
Playboy
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:wsxEc.7305$z81.1537@fed1read01...
>
> Anyone know of a magazine(s) that is strictly based upon hand tools and no
power tools?
Ya' know if you were *really* going to be a purist about it, you'd by a
magazine made by pre-Mergenthaler techniques!
I can set cold type in a chase, sort them back into the typecase, and I know
em's, en's, spaces and quads. I can run a Kluge platen press. I can't run a
Linotype - Bob wouldn't let me near that baby. 'Xcept to melt the lead back
into ingots.
Don't get me started on the whole "font" vs. "typeface" mess...
"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I know of one still operational, and in (admittedly light-duty) production
use.
I could sit and watch a Linotype run for hours. I think it was the
inspiration for Rube Goldberg's output.
We actually had two - that also saw light duty use. For some reason, we did
our classifieds on it. I suspect it was to make reprinting the ad next week
easier.
Ol' Bob really could read upside-down and backwards faster that I could
setup the Galley Proof press and get copy out to the Proofin' Gals. Two
ladies who "read aloud" to each other all day, every Tuesday.
We has just obtained a new fangled photo typesetter - Singer, if I recall
and it was seeing light use too. However once we hired a gal fresh out'a
journalism school (who actually knew how to work it) it got more and more
use. The type was on a "film wheel" as I recall.
We had four or five Platen presses of various sizes. And a small offset
press too.
Looking back now - some 30 years later - I realize:
- Bob was a real craftsman
- And a true gentleman to take a punk kid like myself under his tutelage
- I probably shouldn't have been running the platen presses at age 16
- I probably inhaled more lead fumes that I should have... :)
God bless you Robert Watson - thank you for the experience!
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:27:42 -0700, "AArDvarK" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Anyone know of a magazine(s) that is strictly based upon hand tools and no power tools?
National Geographic.
Regards,
Tom.
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1