Allen Roy wrote:
> Nope, Don't need it. I have a 1000w sound system instead. Most of the time I
> can't even hear the tools running. Just added XM last year so I could hear
> NASCAR racing but alas I have to switch to Sirius now.
How come? I'm very happy with XM. Or did NASCAR switch? I wouldn't
notice if NASCAR had switched. (turn left, turn left, turn left) I only
watch most of the 16 Formula-1 races per year. *zipping up my Nomex
suit*
B A R R Y wrote:
[snip]
>
> Nowadays, it's XM or the Ipod...
The guy who builds a direct interface between Xm2go and an iPod will be
a zillionaire.
Imagine listening to fresh music all day, record 5 hours of it, select
what you like and transfer it to the Pod. A 500 dollar bill to the guy
who makes me one. (I know it can be done via analog, but that's a lot
of hassle.)
Joe wrote:
> TV's on something interesting when doing boring milling operations, usually
> hgtv, dsc, milt, tlc, etc.... When thought is involved, it goes to XM
> classics. Very inspiring.
>
Channel 14, 74 are interspersed with bouts of 44.
In limited doses 77 when designing/drafting.... mind you, any hint of
Enya on 77 and we're back to Bluesville74.
Channel 14 stays on until I can no longer tap either foot. *G*
> >> Nowadays, it's XM or the Ipod...
>
> Don't know if that is close:
>
> Stiletto 100
Nope. XM makes the Inno, which is quite a bit closer (in that it has
much more flexible recording features), but you still cannot digitally
get the stuff off of it and put it on your computer (or burn it).
Still, you can maintain playlists of downloaded stuff on your Inno,
which is fairly cool.
See friends.xmradio.com
(Use email address [email protected]).
B A R R Y wrote:
> A.K.A. copyright protection, not necessarily a technology limitation.
The tech is straight forward. In fact, for those lucky PC (Windoze etc)
owners, they can subscribe to Napster/XM here in Kanuckistan. When you
hear a song on any of the XM channels you like, hit the download button
and for 99 cents you get the song, which is either an MP3 or a
Wmv(orwhatever).
The brief read I did seems to suggest a sample rate of 64K, which is
not great, but maybe the download is better quality. The lossless Apple
compression is so good, that I find it hard to listen to MP3 at much
less than 190K as a source on my home system. In the shop, on my
Milwaukee boombox, the low level MP3's are adequate and the XM2go is
good enough by quite margin.
Soon I will be lucky too, as I am about to order a new mac with an
Intel processor so I can do Windoze too. I am waiting till Tuesday's
keynote address at Mac World Expo, who knows if Jobs has accelerated
the delivery of LeopardOS. Leopard will have BootCamp built in so that
I can boot my mac in WindozeXP (actually not too-too bad of an OS) so
that I can use more accessible(cheaper) software for my finances and
cut lists. There have been no conflicts with drivers reported around
here...so far. All CAD and design stuff will stay Mac-based.
It will NEVER be on-line in Windoze mode.
PS...large scale r/c planes, eh? A friend of mine is really into that.
Spitfires and Hurricanes.
B A R R Y wrote:
[snipped for brevity]
>
> The true scale guys like your buddy are simply obsessed. <G> THAT's
> an art!
Miniature leather jackets with buttons and zipper for flight jackets?
For pilots =B1 8" tall?
I'm not sure of the scale, but the wingspan was about 6 feet (or so)
for the Spitfire.
Obsessed? Ohhh yea...lol
Now he is into restoring 10,000 pound Rumely tractors.
http://rumely.rustyiron.com/
Go figgur.
r
J T wrote:
[snipped for brevity]
> A TV in the shop? - no way,
>
TV's and telephones can be the most intrusive devices ever.
Just TRY and talk to somebody whilst standing next to a TV and they
will not be able to keep their eyes off the damned screen.
As a media device, TV's are cool, and I watch a bit of programming
(Lost is on tonight, yay). TV's are useful when performing mundane
tasks like doing the treadmill for 1/2 hr.
But there is no place for them in the shop.... not in my shop anyway.
Too distracting/dangerous.
r
Sat, Jan 6, 2007, 10:24pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Mark=A0Jerde)
doth query:
<snip> Anyone else have a TV in the shop? <snip>
I go to my shop to relax. A TV in the shop wouldn't allow that.
When I'm working on something I definitely want to concentrate on that,
not a TV. I have a radio, that comes on when the power comes on, low
volume, and normally tuned to a 24 hr classical station - it's changed
when they play opera, or singing - then it's classic rock & roll, or on
Sunday evenings, bluegrass, When the power tools are on, I can't hear
the radio. When they're off, and I'm working on something, it's a
non-intrusive background. When I just sit and relax, being classical
music, I don't even need to listen to it, just absorb it. I got a bit
of aromatic cedar long ago (sacrifice to the Woodworking Gods, from a
true believer. I'd planned on probably making something nice for the
dau-in-law from it, but the smell is sooo nice, that sitting out there,
letting the music soak in, smelling the light scent of the cedar, and
just reaxing, that I've put off touching it for awhile. A TV in the
shop? - no way,
JOAT
To listen is an effort, and just to hear is no merit. A duck hears
also.
- Igor Stravinsky
ohh hell yes, could not live with out it. And when something good happens
on tv, we run into the house and catch it on the big screen. IF it was not
there, i might get more done.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/auswoodworker/detail?.dir=7872&.dnm=de9d.jpg&.src=ph
eric
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01...
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
>Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale et.
> al. while making sawdust.)
>
> -- Mark
>
>
B A R R Y wrote:
> In the US, usually 1/4 scale and/or 20+ pounds or more, there's no
real
> standard. One organization defines it as an 80"+ wingspan.
During my misspent youth, built and flew, U-Control and free flight.
Had a single channel McNab that operated on 465, but never got it
operational.
One of the guys in the club got hid hands on an Piper Cub with a 72"
wing span.
It also had a thermal fuse for a pop up tail if it ever found a thermal.
Rigged it up with an O&R 60 engine with a 1 quart fuel tank for free
flight operation.
Out west of town was a farm field that was at least 10-15 acres and a
3-5% slope.
Rigged up about 100 ft of rubber and 200 ft of nylon to form a launch
bungee.
The first flight was aborted, don't remember why.
Don't know if it ever made any other flights after that.
Lew
On 7 Jan 2007 12:52:19 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> Nowadays, it's XM or the Ipod...
>>
>> Don't know if that is close:
>>
>> Stiletto 100
>
>Nope. XM makes the Inno, which is quite a bit closer (in that it has
>much more flexible recording features), but you still cannot digitally
>get the stuff off of it and put it on your computer (or burn it).
A.K.A. copyright protection, not necessarily a technology limitation.
Nope, Don't need it. I have a 1000w sound system instead. Most of the time I
can't even hear the tools running. Just added XM last year so I could hear
NASCAR racing but alas I have to switch to Sirius now.
Allen
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01...
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
>Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale et.
> al. while making sawdust.)
>
> -- Mark
>
>
"dondone" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Yes, along with a computer and high speed internet.
I've got several computers and high speed internet, a model railroad, a
whole TV entertainment center complete with game systems. Oh, and a pool
table.
Ok, so I don't have a shop... It's really a garage converted to a multi-
purpose room.
Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
NASCAR switched to Sirius at the end of the past season. I can't sit and
watch 3-4 hours of racing but when it is on the radio, but I can listen to
the whole race without a problem. I like XM as well but the reason I got it
was for NASCAR races as we don't get any regular radio stations where we
are. The only day I get to work in the shop is on Sundays so it was nice to
listen to.
Allen
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Allen Roy wrote:
>> Nope, Don't need it. I have a 1000w sound system instead. Most of the
>> time I
>> can't even hear the tools running. Just added XM last year so I could
>> hear
>> NASCAR racing but alas I have to switch to Sirius now.
>
> How come? I'm very happy with XM. Or did NASCAR switch? I wouldn't
> notice if NASCAR had switched. (turn left, turn left, turn left) I only
> watch most of the 16 Formula-1 races per year. *zipping up my Nomex
> suit*
>
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1168221444.836909.76860
@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
>
> B A R R Y wrote:
> [snipped for brevity]
>>
>> The true scale guys like your buddy are simply obsessed. <G> THAT's
>> an art!
>
> Miniature leather jackets with buttons and zipper for flight jackets?
> For pilots ± 8" tall?
*snip*
That's odd? (I guess I resemble that remark. ;-) It's model trains,
though, not planes.)
Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
I had one, but donated it to the bike shop for watching distraction
movies during winter "trainer night". <G>
The TV started getting less and less use when I migrated from giant
r/c scale aircraft building to furniture. It got in the way, and I
got tired of moving it around, and I spent more time quietly in one
place with the airplanes. I did enjoy having hockey, football, or a
race on in the background while working.
Nowadays, it's XM or the Ipod...
On 7 Jan 2007 14:38:33 -0800, "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>It will NEVER be on-line in Windoze mode.
Got a broadband router?
An awful lot of Windows security issues are fixed by simply placing
the machine behind a router and not using Outlook for email. Many,
many issues are actually Outlook scripts.
>PS...large scale r/c planes, eh? A friend of mine is really into that.
>Spitfires and Hurricanes.
I really enjoyed flying r/c. In my own style of turning every
enjoyable thing I do into something self-supporting, immersing myself,
and burning out on it <G>, I started contract building. My specialty
was aerobatic stuff like Edge 540s, Zilns, Extras, Pitts biplanes...
usually 1/4 & 1/3 scale and gasoline powered. Most of the time I'd
assemble and finish kits, but occasionally I'd build from plans or
scratch build.
I adopted some pattern cutting and jigging techniques that really sped
things along. My very first rec inquires, back in the early-90's,
were r/c related and I was l introduced to zero clearance inserts and
pattern routing by the cabal.
The true scale guys like your buddy are simply obsessed. <G> THAT's
an art!
I moved on to furniture because my wife was happier after I spent a
month in the basement. <G>
Radio control taught me a whole bunch about flight dynamics that has
translated well to full scale. I've been doing some aerobatic
training here and there, and it's funny how I can visualize what's
going on. We used to do flat spin contests with r/c that usually
ended up destroying the plane, but the stuff before the last flight?
Simply beautiful! <G>
Every so often, I look at a plane at the airport and imagine cutting
the parts and installing r/c gear!
TV's on something interesting when doing boring milling operations, usually
hgtv, dsc, milt, tlc, etc.... When thought is involved, it goes to XM
classics. Very inspiring.
jc
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01...
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
>Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale et.
> al. while making sawdust.)
>
> -- Mark
>
>
Got one just to watch the Georgia Bulldogs on Saturdays in the fall.
Considering this past season I am now thinking about throwing it out !!
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01...
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
>Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale et.
> al. while making sawdust.)
>
> -- Mark
>
>
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:10:56 GMT, "Pop`" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Mark Jerde wrote:
>> I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep
>> during the commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go
>> Seattle!) Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
Nope. Sometimes I turn on the radio, but usually not. Then again, I
usually don't watch TV in the house, either.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A 500 dollar bill to the guy who makes me one.
Can you make change for a $613 dollar bill? ;-)
-- Mark
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:21:03 GMT, "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Sure enough! I can watch WW videos in real time.
Can you finish a project as fast as Norm? <G>
On 7 Jan 2007 09:20:58 -0800, "Robatoy" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>B A R R Y wrote:
>[snip]
>>
>> Nowadays, it's XM or the Ipod...
>
>The guy who builds a direct interface between Xm2go and an iPod will be
>a zillionaire.
>Imagine listening to fresh music all day, record 5 hours of it, select
>what you like and transfer it to the Pod. A 500 dollar bill to the guy
>who makes me one. (I know it can be done via analog, but that's a lot
>of hassle.)
<
http://shop.sirius.com/edealinv/servlet/ExecMacro?nurl=control/StoreItem.vm&ctl_nbr=2640&siId=1745656&catParentID=7874&scId=7874
>
Don't know if that is close:
Stiletto 100
Sleek, stylish, personal, powerful and completely portable. The
Stiletto 100 lets you listen to live and recorded SIRIUS almost
anywhere. On the go, in the car, at home or in the
officeStiletto 100 also lets you experience SIRIUS Internet
Radio over an accessible WiFi network. In addition, it stores
SIRIUSs 100% commercial-free music programming and plays
MP3/WMA files plus go online and purchase your favorite tracks
for downloads.
In article <DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01>, "Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!) Anyone
>else have a TV in the shop?
No way. The potential for distraction makes it too dangerous.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Yes, along with a computer and high speed internet.
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01...
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
>Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale et.
> al. while making sawdust.)
>
> -- Mark
>
>
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 19:59:21 -0500, "Allen Roy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... but alas I have to switch to Sirius now.
Howcome?
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Sure enough! I can watch WW videos in real time. Came in handy when I was
(and am still) learning to carve ball and claw feet (although mine looked
more like a turkey leg griping a pumpkin) Anyway, it's nice when the race is
on......--dave
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01...
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
>Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale et.
> al. while making sawdust.)
>
> -- Mark
>
>
Mark Jerde wrote:
> I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep
> during the commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go
> Seattle!) Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale
> et. al. while making sawdust.)
>
> -- Mark
Nope; too dangerous. Just a radio for noise.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> Just curious, what is considered giant?
In the US, usually 1/4 scale and/or 20+ pounds or more, there's no real
standard. One organization defines it as an 80"+ wingspan. Giant scale
aircraft are typically gasoline powered, while smaller craft are alcohol
or electric powered. US r/c pilots who are counting on Academy of Model
Aeronautics liability insurance coverage are limited to 55 pounds
without a waiver obtained by demonstrating advanced flying and safety
skills.
Many turbine powered aircraft are giant scale, and an additional waiver
is required for turbine power. R/c turbines are a mature technology,
all they require is flying skill and cash.
Outside of the US, giant scale takes on a better meaning. I've seen
300+ pound bombers with multiple multi-cylinder engines flown by
multi-person crews! <G>
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 20:30:07 -0600, "Eric" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>ohh hell yes, could not live with out it. And when something good happens
>on tv, we run into the house and catch it on the big screen. IF it was not
>there, i might get more done.
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/auswoodworker/detail?.dir=7872&.dnm=de9d.jpg&.src=ph
>
Seems like the calendar in picture #10 would be more of a distraction.
;-)
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DkVnh.652$3h5.467@trnddc01...
>I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
>commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
>Anyone else have a TV in the shop?
No, a PITA to run cable out there and plain antenna gets nothing around
here. Just a radio with CD player.
"Mark Jerde" wrote...
> I just moved my small TV down to the shop so I can sort & sweep during the
> commercials in tonight's NFL playoff games. (Go Indy! Go Seattle!)
Anyone
> else have a TV in the shop?
>
> (I've always had a cassette player for listening to Earl Nightengale et.
al.
> while making sawdust.)
No TV, a local radio station plays all the Eagles games.
Do have a 5 CD player with an FM broadcaster attached so I can hear CDs
through the WorkTunes hearing protectors. Today was Surf Guitar day,
tomorrow may be Latin, or Jazz Guitar, or the Dead, or Beethoven Piano
Concertos.
Who is Earl Nightengale, and what does he play?
--
Timothy Juvenal
www.tjwoodworking.com
"Juvenal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Who is Earl Nightengale, and what does he play?
A good author & motivational speaker who died in 1989. "Success" stuff.
http://www.earlnightingale.com/
-- Mark