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JayPique

02/05/2013 5:09 PM

On the subject of Tape-Measuring

The new job is necessitating the use of a tape measure quite a bit, and my =
last 16' tape bit the dust last week. I typically buy Stanley 33-116 tapes=
because they're light-weight (.75" tape versus 1.0" typical). But stand o=
ut seems to be rearing it's ugly head, so I went with a beefier one this ti=
me. I got the Dewalt 16-footer (DWHT33372). What I *especially* like is t=
he 1/8" marks along the bottom of the tape - this helps with my dyslexic mo=
ments for sure. Also, the scale is only in 16ths - even for the first foot=
. On the Stanley 33-116 it has annoying 32nds the first 12 inches. Who re=
ally measures to a 64th with a tape? In any event, so far so good with the=
Dewalt.

Also on the subject of tapes, do most of you do your marking along an edge =
of a board, or "in the middle"? The reason I ask is because when I'm cutti=
ng 2x material on a heavily-used 12" scms I sort of feel like I can cut in =
half any angular error on "square to square" cuts. Is this silly?
JP


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Swingman

in reply to JayPique on 02/05/2013 5:09 PM

03/05/2013 9:16 AM

Greg Guarino <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've got a Rockler flat-back tape measure that been very handy for (for
> instance) marking the dadoes for my bookcase uprights.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdguarino/8330934993/in/set-72157632376881493/lightbox/
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22205
>
> It wouldn't be much use for framing and general handyman work around the
> house as it won't support itself at all, but it makes it very easy to
> mark things accurately when you're working from a plan. I treat it pretty
> gingerly because I'm sure that it would crease easily. But when that
> finally happens, it's cheap enough to buy a new one.
>
> One issue is that it seems to be designed for outside measurements only;
> the "hook" doesn't slide to compensate for its own thickness. The hook is
> flat (just a 90 degree angle, no curved hook) and thin, so the inaccuracy
> would be small (1/32" maybe), but I haven't run into that because so far
> I have only used it "outside", marking up pieces from a drawing.

I use my flats often when marking joinery. What you want to watch for with
the FastCaps is pulling them out full length and then they won't retract
fully. Have had to replace two of the flat ones in the last few years.
Rocker will replace them for nothing, except the aggravation of having to
do so.

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"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to JayPique on 02/05/2013 5:09 PM

03/05/2013 2:44 AM


> Also on the subject of tapes, do most of you do your marking along an edg=
e of a board, or "in the middle"? The reason I ask is because when I'm cut=
ting 2x material on a heavily-used 12" scms I sort of feel like I can cut i=
n half any angular error on "square to square" cuts. Is this silly?
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> JP

I mark far enough from the fence edge so I can see a blade tooth next to th=
e line. Too close to the edge and I can't see where the blade will hit. I d=
on't have\use a laser. Probably would if it didn't die.

I also recently found out not to buy a tape that doesn't stand on it's own.=
I use 12' tapes because I rarely work with more than a 10' piece of materi=
al. I bought a cheapo tape. I was doing some 2x framing. I stretch the tape=
maybe 3" longer than I need and lock it. Then set it down to do my marking=
. This crappy tape falls over and takes the whole damn shebang to ground.

Also found I loved my other cheapo tape that has tension locked state by de=
fault with a push button to release (and flat bottomed). Much more producti=
ve when framing.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to JayPique on 02/05/2013 5:09 PM

03/05/2013 10:01 AM

On 5/3/2013 5:44 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>
>> Also on the subject of tapes, do most of you do your marking along an edge of a board, or "in the middle"? The reason I ask is because when I'm cutting 2x material on a heavily-used 12" scms I sort of feel like I can cut in half any angular error on "square to square" cuts. Is this silly?
>>
>> JP
>
> I mark far enough from the fence edge so I can see a blade tooth next to the line. Too close to the edge and I can't see where the blade will hit. I don't have\use a laser. Probably would if it didn't die.
>
> I also recently found out not to buy a tape that doesn't stand on it's own. I use 12' tapes because I rarely work with more than a 10' piece of material. I bought a cheapo tape. I was doing some 2x framing. I stretch the tape maybe 3" longer than I need and lock it. Then set it down to do my marking. This crappy tape falls over and takes the whole damn shebang to ground.
>
> Also found I loved my other cheapo tape that has tension locked state by default with a push button to release (and flat bottomed). Much more productive when framing.
>

I've got a Rockler flat-back tape measure that been very handy for (for
instance) marking the dadoes for my bookcase uprights.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdguarino/8330934993/in/set-72157632376881493/lightbox/

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22205

It wouldn't be much use for framing and general handyman work around the
house as it won't support itself at all, but it makes it very easy to
mark things accurately when you're working from a plan. I treat it
pretty gingerly because I'm sure that it would crease easily. But when
that finally happens, it's cheap enough to buy a new one.

One issue is that it seems to be designed for outside measurements only;
the "hook" doesn't slide to compensate for its own thickness. The hook
is flat (just a 90 degree angle, no curved hook) and thin, so the
inaccuracy would be small (1/32" maybe), but I haven't run into that
because so far I have only used it "outside", marking up pieces from a
drawing.

GG

Greg Guarino

in reply to JayPique on 02/05/2013 5:09 PM

03/05/2013 10:46 AM

On 5/3/2013 10:16 AM, Swingman wrote:

> What you want to watch for with
> the FastCaps is pulling them out full length and then they won't retract
> fully.

Thanks for the tip. It shouldn't be a problem for me though. If I ever
decide to build anything that needs marks 16' out, I'll first need a
bigger place to work. And helpers. And a bigger house to put it in.


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