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"pharmdave"

20/11/2006 7:39 AM

SoCal (Simi Valley) Woodworking...

I am moving to Simi Valley, CA tomorrow from Dallas, TX. There we had
several Rocklers and Woodcrafts all within 45 minutes of where I lived.
Not knowing the lay of the land, does anyone here know any WW supply
shops in east Ventura or within, say, 30-40 minutes of east Simi? I
saw that there are Rocklers in Pasadena and Torrance. But I don't know
which is "close".

I appreciate any feedback. Thanks,
Dave


This topic has 28 replies

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"Mike"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 12:36 PM


John Emmons wrote:
> Pasadena is East on the 118 to the 210 and off at Rosemead.
>
> Torrance is East on the 118 to the 405 and then South. Don't know where the
> Rockler store is down there, I shop at the Pasadena branch.
>
> I'm making an educated guess that you can get to the Pasadena store quicker
> than the Torrance one. Depending on traffic of course but the 210 typically
> flows much faster than does the 405.
>


I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:

I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".

Sorry for the babbling...

m

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 5:15 PM


Mike

> highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
> tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
> wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".


Having lived in Northern Calif (within a 50 mile radius of San
Francisco), for
the last 25 years, the "the 101" is NOT called "the 101" here. It's
called
simply "101". However, there is a highway called the "Nimitz" (named
after the admiral, I believe) and it's called "the Nimitz" in
traffic reports, etc.

I told someone how to get to my neck of the woods from San Jose, I'd
say:

"Take 280 North, up thru 19th (never Presidio Parkway), cross the
Golden Gate, to 101 North. Then get off at the 116 Hwy exit, etc."

A person in LA, might say:

"take the 280 north, up thru the Presido Parkway, to the 101 North,
etc."


This is a totally So. Cal. thing, as far as I can tell, tho I'm
sure it will creep to us soon enough.

MJ Wallace

pp

"pharmdave"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 11:30 PM

So I'm guessing that there really isn't an over-abundance of WW supply
stores in the northern part of LA or the valley aside from Rockler?
Man, that's brutal... But, it beats Home Despot...

John Emmons wrote:
> Simi Valley isn't close to anywhere else in Los Angeles...;^)
>
> Actually you can get to either Torrance or Pasadena fairly easily from there
> but they aren't close.
>
> Coming from Texas you might have a different scale of what constitutes
> close.
>
> Pasadena is East on the 118 to the 210 and off at Rosemead.
>
> Torrance is East on the 118 to the 405 and then South. Don't know where the
> Rockler store is down there, I shop at the Pasadena branch.
>
> I'm making an educated guess that you can get to the Pasadena store quicker
> than the Torrance one. Depending on traffic of course but the 210 typically
> flows much faster than does the 405.
>
> Welcome to the neighborhood, so to speak...
>
> John
>
> "pharmdave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am moving to Simi Valley, CA tomorrow from Dallas, TX. There we had
> > several Rocklers and Woodcrafts all within 45 minutes of where I lived.
> > Not knowing the lay of the land, does anyone here know any WW supply
> > shops in east Ventura or within, say, 30-40 minutes of east Simi? I
> > saw that there are Rocklers in Pasadena and Torrance. But I don't know
> > which is "close".
> >
> > I appreciate any feedback. Thanks,
> > Dave
> >

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 4:58 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>
>
> > I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
> >
> > I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
> > raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
> > highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
> > tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
> > wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>
> You evidently didn't stick around long enough to pick up on the other
> thing peculiar to SoCal freeways, NAMES.
>
> I-5 runs from San Diego to Seattle.
>
> Here in SoCal it is also known as "The Golden State", "The Santa Ana"
> and at least one other name I can't remember right now.

Here in Detroit you can take I-75 to "The Fisher" and then connect with
"The Chrysler" before you realize that you've been rudely handled.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 8:44 AM

Zz Yzx wrote:

> Yeah, but here in northern California there's an "East Nicolas", but
> no "Nicolas" to be seen.


Coming south on I5/99 towards LA, there's a large green sign that says simply
"The Old Road." I always got a chuckle out of that sign.

--
It's turtles, all the way down

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

22/11/2006 5:23 PM

LRod wrote:

> In the process of following I-90 from Indiana to Rockford, you will
> have traversed the Indiana Toll Road, the Skyway, the Dan Ryan, and
> the Kennedy, until reaching the Northwest Tollway.
>
> Taking I-94 from Indiana to Milwaukee involves the Borman, the
> Calumet, the Dan Ryan, the Kennedy, and the Edens until you hit the
> Tri-State.
>
> Even a simple trip from Indiana to Iowa on I-80 gets you from the
> Indiana Toll Road, to the Borman, to the Tri-State until you're
> finally set free on I-80 near Hazel Crest.
>
> Tollway, incidentally, describes most of the interstates around
> Chicago outside of Cook County. Although the Tri-State runs through
> the western edge of Cook County, and the tolls on the Skyway, the
> Northwest Tollway begin in Cook County, they are out near the edges.
> Nonetheless, it is impossible to pass through or even around Chicago
> on major expressways without paying the governor something--often
> several times.
>

Yeah ... tell me! I live in Detroit and my son lives outside St. Paul
and Chicago sits in the way. It seems that every time I go out to see
him, I find a new way to get lost!

Bill

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

24/11/2006 3:26 PM

LRod wrote:
> Years ago, in the '70s and '80s, if you went through Chicago between
> about 10 A.M. and 3 P.M. (and any darkness hours after about 7 P.M.)
> you could make pretty good time, missing drive time on each end. In
> later years, however, traffic has increased to the point that you're
> almost assured of getting into some slow crawl somewhere along the
> way, almost any time, day or night.
>

I try to time "Chicago" for after midnight. Then still get caught in
construction traffic.

Unless I fly. ;-)

Bill

Ld

LRod

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

23/11/2006 1:49 AM

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:23:10 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Yeah ... tell me! I live in Detroit and my son lives outside St. Paul
>and Chicago sits in the way. It seems that every time I go out to see
>him, I find a new way to get lost!

Part of that is because they renumbered some of the interstates in
Chicago a number of years ago. I-90 used to turn west onto the
Eisenhower, north for a bit on the Tri-State, then west on what is now
I-290 to to the North/South and north to the Northwest Tollway again.
I can't remember now if I-94 then stayed on the Kennedy until the
Tri-State or whether it always did go up the Edens.

Anyway, the above is now I-290, and I-90 goes out the Kennedy.

The East/West used to be IL 5, but was then designated I-88. I'm told
that recently they gave it another name, but much like Washington
National Airport, it's a name that will never cross my lips (and for
the same reasons).

Shortest way (by about 20 miles) is I-94 to the Indiana Toll Road
(I-90), which becomes the Skyway. That merges with the Dan Ryan until
Hubbard's Cave (long underpass just after the Eisenhower interchange
and just as you pass the Loop) which then becomes the Kennedy. Stay on
it (watch out for the Edens junction--it's called The Junction) until
the toll plaza where it becomes the Northwest Tollway. That's I-90 all
the way (you pick up I-94 again in Madison, WI).

If time is less important, you want to save some money on tolls, and
cut down a whole lot on traffic (but don't mind driving an extra 50
miles), just keep on I-94 until it merges with I-80 (the Borman), then
stay on I-80 all the way until I-39 (probably 50 miles west of
Joliet), and take that north to Rockford, where you pick up I-90
again.

I would do everything I could to avoid the Tri-State.

Years ago, in the '70s and '80s, if you went through Chicago between
about 10 A.M. and 3 P.M. (and any darkness hours after about 7 P.M.)
you could make pretty good time, missing drive time on each end. In
later years, however, traffic has increased to the point that you're
almost assured of getting into some slow crawl somewhere along the
way, almost any time, day or night.

--
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LRod

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

24/11/2006 10:50 PM

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:26:10 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
wrote:

>LRod wrote:
>> Years ago, in the '70s and '80s, if you went through Chicago between
>> about 10 A.M. and 3 P.M. (and any darkness hours after about 7 P.M.)
>> you could make pretty good time, missing drive time on each end. In
>> later years, however, traffic has increased to the point that you're
>> almost assured of getting into some slow crawl somewhere along the
>> way, almost any time, day or night.
>>
>
>I try to time "Chicago" for after midnight. Then still get caught in
>construction traffic.

Welcome to Northern Illinois' two seasons--winter and construction.

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LRod

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 8:16 PM

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:58:14 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
>> >
>> > I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
>> > raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
>> > highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
>> > tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
>> > wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>>
>> You evidently didn't stick around long enough to pick up on the other
>> thing peculiar to SoCal freeways, NAMES.
>>
>> I-5 runs from San Diego to Seattle.
>>
>> Here in SoCal it is also known as "The Golden State", "The Santa Ana"
>> and at least one other name I can't remember right now.
>
>Here in Detroit you can take I-75 to "The Fisher" and then connect with
>"The Chrysler" before you realize that you've been rudely handled.

Chicagoland has its own set of named roads: the Kennedy, the
Eisenhower (sometimes called the Ike, not surprisingly), the
Stevenson, the Dan Ryan, the Edens, the Calumet, the Skyway, the Tri
State, the East/West, the North/South, the Northwest, and the Borman
(in Indiana, actually, but part of the Chicagoland landscape). They
all have Interstate designations (some of which have changed over the
years), but hardly anyone knows them.

In the process of following I-90 from Indiana to Rockford, you will
have traversed the Indiana Toll Road, the Skyway, the Dan Ryan, and
the Kennedy, until reaching the Northwest Tollway.

Taking I-94 from Indiana to Milwaukee involves the Borman, the
Calumet, the Dan Ryan, the Kennedy, and the Edens until you hit the
Tri-State.

Even a simple trip from Indiana to Iowa on I-80 gets you from the
Indiana Toll Road, to the Borman, to the Tri-State until you're
finally set free on I-80 near Hazel Crest.

Tollway, incidentally, describes most of the interstates around
Chicago outside of Cook County. Although the Tri-State runs through
the western edge of Cook County, and the tolls on the Skyway, the
Northwest Tollway begin in Cook County, they are out near the edges.
Nonetheless, it is impossible to pass through or even around Chicago
on major expressways without paying the governor something--often
several times.

--
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Mark & Juanita

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 7:24 PM

On 20 Nov 2006 12:36:08 -0800, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>John Emmons wrote:
>> Pasadena is East on the 118 to the 210 and off at Rosemead.
>>
>> Torrance is East on the 118 to the 405 and then South. Don't know where the
>> Rockler store is down there, I shop at the Pasadena branch.
>>
>> I'm making an educated guess that you can get to the Pasadena store quicker
>> than the Torrance one. Depending on traffic of course but the 210 typically
>> flows much faster than does the 405.
>>
>
>
>I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
>
>I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
>raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
>highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
>tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
>wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>
>Sorry for the babbling...

No need to apologize. Irritates the heck out of me; it's a very annoying
habit with no real good reason for being other than somebody's idea that it
sounds cool. They are doing the same thing here in Tucson, "Traffic on THE
10 is blocked at Congress ..., Everything looking good on THE 19." Folks,
it's I-10 or Interstate 10. THE 10 is Bo Derek, OK? [Well, sort-of, I was
always more partial to Cheryl Tiegs myself].


+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 9:41 PM

Mike wrote:


> I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
>
> I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
> raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
> highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
> tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
> wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".

You evidently didn't stick around long enough to pick up on the other
thing peculiar to SoCal freeways, NAMES.

I-5 runs from San Diego to Seattle.

Here in SoCal it is also known as "The Golden State", "The Santa Ana"
and at least one other name I can't remember right now.

Think it is a holdover back to the days when SoCal had freeways long
before the interstate system.

Back then they assigned names.

Even back in your part of the country, you will find people still
refer to US30 as the "Lincoln Highway".

I'm with you, highways have numbers.

Lew

JM

John Mc

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 2:18 AM

It took me a while to get used to that when I moved to SoCal from
Florida. 'Course I lived far enough south that the Santa Ana freeway
for me was going North on the 5. I lived off the 241 Foothills toll
road, IIRC.

It's been 10 years since we abandoned all that for Texas and the dear
old 290 Northwest Freeway. All our freeways and toll roads here have
both names & numbers. I grew up down around the Gulf Freeway, I45
South.

People get so confused when you tell them to go East on 610 North
until it turns into 610 East, then go South to I10 East if you want to
get from my house to Beaumont. Then I help them out by telling them
just go East on the North Loop, South on the East Loop, then East on
the East Freeway. Clears it right up.

John

On 20 Nov 2006 12:36:08 -0800, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>John Emmons wrote:
>> Pasadena is East on the 118 to the 210 and off at Rosemead.
>>
>> Torrance is East on the 118 to the 405 and then South. Don't know where the
>> Rockler store is down there, I shop at the Pasadena branch.
>>
>> I'm making an educated guess that you can get to the Pasadena store quicker
>> than the Torrance one. Depending on traffic of course but the 210 typically
>> flows much faster than does the 405.
>>
>
>
>I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
>
>I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
>raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
>highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
>tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
>wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>
>Sorry for the babbling...

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 2:07 PM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mike wrote:
>
>
> > I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
> >
> > I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
> > raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
> > highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
> > tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
> > wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>
> You evidently didn't stick around long enough to pick up on the other
> thing peculiar to SoCal freeways, NAMES.

Not unique to CA. In Houston, we have the Southwest Freeway, Katy Freeway,
Northwest Freeway, North Freeway, Eastex Freeway, Beaumont Freeway, Gulf
Freeway, NolanRyan Expressway and the list goes on. These are all highways
entering and leaving Houston. San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, have names also.







LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 6:04 PM

"pharmdave" wrote:

> So I'm guessing that there really isn't an over-abundance of WW supply
> stores in the northern part of LA or the valley aside from Rockler?
> Man, that's brutal... But, it beats Home Despot...

That would not be a good assumption, IMHO.

There are over 16 million people in SoCal, much to big a market to ignore.

I'm more than 50 miles east of Simi.

Around here, Rockler would be my last choice.

Lew

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 11:55 AM

"pharmdave" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> So I'm guessing that there really isn't an over-abundance of WW supply
> stores in the northern part of LA or the valley aside from Rockler?
> Man, that's brutal... But, it beats Home Despot...
>

There's lots of places that aren't Rockler. Find a copy of the
magazine/newsletter called Woodworking West. Very SoCal oriented, and lots
of advertising from SoCal shops. Just not national chains.

Patriarch,
near Oakland, in the north...

JE

"John Emmons"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 8:05 AM

Well to be truthful I don't know. I don't live in that part of Los Angeles
county. I know of the Rockler store in Pasadena and I know that there are
more around.

For all I know there could be one in Simi Valley itself. I was simply going
off what the OP asked about.

John E.

"pharmdave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I'm guessing that there really isn't an over-abundance of WW supply
> stores in the northern part of LA or the valley aside from Rockler?
> Man, that's brutal... But, it beats Home Despot...
>
> John Emmons wrote:
> > Simi Valley isn't close to anywhere else in Los Angeles...;^)
> >
> > Actually you can get to either Torrance or Pasadena fairly easily from
there
> > but they aren't close.
> >
> > Coming from Texas you might have a different scale of what constitutes
> > close.
> >
> > Pasadena is East on the 118 to the 210 and off at Rosemead.
> >
> > Torrance is East on the 118 to the 405 and then South. Don't know where
the
> > Rockler store is down there, I shop at the Pasadena branch.
> >
> > I'm making an educated guess that you can get to the Pasadena store
quicker
> > than the Torrance one. Depending on traffic of course but the 210
typically
> > flows much faster than does the 405.
> >
> > Welcome to the neighborhood, so to speak...
> >
> > John
> >
> > "pharmdave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I am moving to Simi Valley, CA tomorrow from Dallas, TX. There we had
> > > several Rocklers and Woodcrafts all within 45 minutes of where I
lived.
> > > Not knowing the lay of the land, does anyone here know any WW supply
> > > shops in east Ventura or within, say, 30-40 minutes of east Simi? I
> > > saw that there are Rocklers in Pasadena and Torrance. But I don't
know
> > > which is "close".
> > >
> > > I appreciate any feedback. Thanks,
> > > Dave
> > >
>

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 5:07 PM

Zz Yzx <[email protected]> writes:
>In San Francisco, near the east side of the Bay Bridge, you can drive
>on I-80 Eastbound and I-580 Westbound at the SAME TIME. Go figure.
>

And your compass heading is Northbound.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 2:09 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> This is a totally So. Cal. thing, as far as I can tell, tho I'm
> sure it will creep to us soon enough.


Totally!

Jj

"JimR"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

22/11/2006 2:02 AM


"
> Most things from CA sound really wrong when taken anywhere else....
> --

[snip]

When I grew up in Michigan, street and road names related to a physical
feature. Dexter Ave. went to the town of Dexter; Oak Street was lined with
Oak trees. But Florida has perfected the concept of naming streets, roads
and subdivisions for things they aren't.

Highlands Lake Drive doesn't go to Highlands Lake;
Quail Ridge is not on a ridge and has no quail
Silver Lake is built around a green stormwater retention pond
Bright Hill Ave. is not on a hill and is shaded and tree-lined
Birch Street has oaks but no birch trees
Commerce Ave. has the county and city government buildings; the commercial
district is on Ridgewood Dr., which is flat and without trees
Military Trail is not a trail and has no armed forces establishments
Golf View Harbor has no golf course, no view and no harbor
Delray Dunes is not in Delray and is not on the beach,

etc.

Ld

LRod

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

22/11/2006 3:58 AM

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:02:57 GMT, "JimR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> But Florida has perfected the concept of naming streets, roads
>and subdivisions for things they aren't.

Oh, but they've done much, much worse. I moved to FL before the
revolution, spent 13 years south and five years north the first time,
then four years south and so far 3½ years north, so I've had some
experience.

When I was a kid, it was pretty easy--streets that started at the
beach with one name, kept that name all the way to US 27 (there is no
habitable land west of US 27 until you get to the Gulf)...Hollywood
Boulevard, Hallandale Beach Boulevard are two examples. Now Hollywood
Blvd becomes Pines Blvd (not to me, however) west of State Road 7
(also known as US 441, 60th Avenue, and Seminole Drive) just because
Pembroke Pines got big and developed both sides of the road out to 27.
Hallandale Beach Blvd becomes Miramar Parkway for the same reason
(actually, Hallandale Blvd never went to 27, but you get the idea).

The biggest bitch I have is when they came through and designated all
of the major and semi major roads as state roads, complete with a
three digit number. To all the people that have been living there for
a while Stirling Road is Stirling Road, Griffin Road is Griffin Road,
Commercial Blvd is Commercial Blvd, and so on. The problem is, the
state's first move was to start marking all the exit and intersection
signs solely with the road number. Try being an old timer trying to
give directions to someone.

Eventually they managed to add the road names to the signs, so it's
not so difficult. For whatever reason they did it, it works okay now
because of the cell phone traffic info system (by the way, if cell
phone usage while driving is so dangerous, why is there an entire
government program predicated on cell phone use while driving?),
except of course, those of us who have know idea what the three digit
road number equivalents of the street names are.

Okay, the street name changes are bad enough, but at least two
communities nearby decided that for some reason Dania and Hallandale
hadn't been good enough for nearly a century. Somehow it was important
to change their names to Dania Beach and Hallandale Beach. Aarghh!!!

But that's not the topper. In 2000 I was shocked to learn that
venerable Dade County, so named for probably 150 years, had decided
that despite the example of no less a major municipality than Chicago,
that apparently wasn't good enough. They decided they needed to become
Miami-Dade County (if you didn't know, Chicago is in Cook County).
Please. No matter to me--I'll never call it that. It'll always be Dade
County to me. But it sets my teeth on edge every time I hear it.

Don't get me started on Washington National Airport.

--
LRod

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in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

21/11/2006 10:29 AM


"Leon" wrote in message
>
> wrote in message
>
>
> > This is a totally So. Cal. thing, as far as I can tell, tho I'm
> > sure it will creep to us soon enough.
>
>
> Totally!

_So_ totally!


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"John Emmons"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 4:51 PM

Simi Valley isn't close to anywhere else in Los Angeles...;^)

Actually you can get to either Torrance or Pasadena fairly easily from there
but they aren't close.

Coming from Texas you might have a different scale of what constitutes
close.

Pasadena is East on the 118 to the 210 and off at Rosemead.

Torrance is East on the 118 to the 405 and then South. Don't know where the
Rockler store is down there, I shop at the Pasadena branch.

I'm making an educated guess that you can get to the Pasadena store quicker
than the Torrance one. Depending on traffic of course but the 210 typically
flows much faster than does the 405.

Welcome to the neighborhood, so to speak...

John

"pharmdave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am moving to Simi Valley, CA tomorrow from Dallas, TX. There we had
> several Rocklers and Woodcrafts all within 45 minutes of where I lived.
> Not knowing the lay of the land, does anyone here know any WW supply
> shops in east Ventura or within, say, 30-40 minutes of east Simi? I
> saw that there are Rocklers in Pasadena and Torrance. But I don't know
> which is "close".
>
> I appreciate any feedback. Thanks,
> Dave
>

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 8:21 PM

On 20 Nov 2006 12:36:08 -0800, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:


>I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
>
>I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
>raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
>highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
>tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
>wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>
>Sorry for the babbling...


Pennsyltucky always used to name the roads. The Lincoln Highway, The
Baltimore Turnpike, The Pennsylvania Turnpike, The Lancaster Pike,
etc.

Words do fail in certain situations, however.

I live off of South Gulph Road. There is a North Gulph Road. There
is also an Old Gulph Road and a New Gulph Road. To add to the
confusion, there is and Upper Gulph Road and a Lower Gulph Road.

There is also a road that is simply called Gulph Road.

What I really don't like is that there are a bunch of Street Roads,
which, although not technically an oxymoron, is entirely too close
when you are trying to give directions.

The kicker is that there is a West Street Road Turnpike and that I
often have to direct folks to go South on it.


Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

JE

"John Emmons"

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

22/11/2006 4:43 PM

You're building a boat 50 miles east of Simi Valley?

Gotta be a labor of love.

John E.

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "pharmdave" wrote:
>
> > So I'm guessing that there really isn't an over-abundance of WW supply
> > stores in the northern part of LA or the valley aside from Rockler?
> > Man, that's brutal... But, it beats Home Despot...
>
> That would not be a good assumption, IMHO.
>
> There are over 16 million people in SoCal, much to big a market to ignore.
>
> I'm more than 50 miles east of Simi.
>
> Around here, Rockler would be my last choice.
>
> Lew

ZY

Zz Yzx

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 6:49 PM

In San Francisco, near the east side of the Bay Bridge, you can drive
on I-80 Eastbound and I-580 Westbound at the SAME TIME. Go figure.


On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:18:56 GMT, John Mc <[email protected]> wrote:

>It took me a while to get used to that when I moved to SoCal from
>Florida. 'Course I lived far enough south that the Santa Ana freeway
>for me was going North on the 5. I lived off the 241 Foothills toll
>road, IIRC.
>
>It's been 10 years since we abandoned all that for Texas and the dear
>old 290 Northwest Freeway. All our freeways and toll roads here have
>both names & numbers. I grew up down around the Gulf Freeway, I45
>South.
>
>People get so confused when you tell them to go East on 610 North
>until it turns into 610 East, then go South to I10 East if you want to
>get from my house to Beaumont. Then I help them out by telling them
>just go East on the North Loop, South on the East Loop, then East on
>the East Freeway. Clears it right up.
>
>John
>
>On 20 Nov 2006 12:36:08 -0800, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>John Emmons wrote:
>>> Pasadena is East on the 118 to the 210 and off at Rosemead.
>>>
>>> Torrance is East on the 118 to the 405 and then South. Don't know where the
>>> Rockler store is down there, I shop at the Pasadena branch.
>>>
>>> I'm making an educated guess that you can get to the Pasadena store quicker
>>> than the Torrance one. Depending on traffic of course but the 210 typically
>>> flows much faster than does the 405.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
>>
>>I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
>>raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
>>highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
>>tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
>>wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>>
>>Sorry for the babbling...

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 2:01 PM

On 20 Nov 2006 12:36:08 -0800, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
>raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
>highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
>tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
>wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".

Most things from CA sound really wrong when taken anywhere else....
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

ZY

Zz Yzx

in reply to "pharmdave" on 20/11/2006 7:39 AM

20/11/2006 6:47 PM

Yeah, but here in northern California there's an "East Nicolas", but
no "Nicolas" to be seen.

Go figure.

-Zz


On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:21:27 -0500, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 20 Nov 2006 12:36:08 -0800, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I know that this is way off topic, but I had to bring it up:
>>
>>I was recently in CA with my fiancee visiting her family. I'm born and
>>raised in Western Pennsylvania and I just couldn't get over calling the
>>highways "the" - as in "the 210" or "the 405". When we got home, I
>>tried referring to local highways the same way, but it just sounds so
>>wrong: "the 79" or "the 279".
>>
>>Sorry for the babbling...
>
>
>Pennsyltucky always used to name the roads. The Lincoln Highway, The
>Baltimore Turnpike, The Pennsylvania Turnpike, The Lancaster Pike,
>etc.
>
>Words do fail in certain situations, however.
>
>I live off of South Gulph Road. There is a North Gulph Road. There
>is also an Old Gulph Road and a New Gulph Road. To add to the
>confusion, there is and Upper Gulph Road and a Lower Gulph Road.
>
>There is also a road that is simply called Gulph Road.
>
>What I really don't like is that there are a bunch of Street Roads,
>which, although not technically an oxymoron, is entirely too close
>when you are trying to give directions.
>
>The kicker is that there is a West Street Road Turnpike and that I
>often have to direct folks to go South on it.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom Watson
>
>tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
>
>http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/


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