RH

"Rob H."

29/07/2010 2:55 AM

What is it? Set 347

For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
post through Google groups today.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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r

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 7:48 AM

On Jul 29, 9:36=A0am, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1993. It's too big to be for sharpening pencils, so it must be for
> sharpening dowels. =A0For what purpose, I don't know - if you asked
> someone's Mom, she'd say, "You'll poke your eye out with that!"



You're not far off, it wasn't for dowels but was used by a particular
type of farmer.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 12:42 PM

On Jul 29, 6:27=A0am, "Alexander Thesoso"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 1994 =A0This, I recognize. =A0It is an escutcheon plate from a radio [TV =
without
> pictures]. =A0Probably a "Cathedral style" 1920's to early 1930's. =A0I d=
o not
> recognize the specific brand. =A0The tuning knob is on a shaft coming thr=
ough
> the bottom hole, and you see a backlit celluloid frequency scale through =
the
> upper aperture. =A0The brand name is photoshopped from the center.


Correct, it's from an old Majestic radio.


Rob

rm

riverman

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 9:18 AM

On Jul 30, 10:48=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jul 29, 9:36=A0am, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > 1993. It's too big to be for sharpening pencils, so it must be for
> > sharpening dowels. =A0For what purpose, I don't know - if you asked
> > someone's Mom, she'd say, "You'll poke your eye out with that!"
>
> You're not far off, it wasn't for dowels but was used by a particular
> type of farmer.
>
> Rob

Maybe to sharpen the ends of tree boughs for grafting? Apples, maybe?

--riverman

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 2:28 PM


> 1998) =A0 It looks as though it is intended to break something along a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 centerline -- but no idea what or why.



Good guess! You're on the right track here.


Rob

jj

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 4:38 AM

1994 front of an old parking meter.... Joel in Rust Central

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 12:42 PM


>
> >http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 1995 - pot still
> 1997 - front sight for a hunting bow


These are both correct.

Wc

"WW"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 8:48 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1994

Bezal from an old radio. WW

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 6:36 AM

1993. It's too big to be for sharpening pencils, so it must be for
sharpening dowels. For what purpose, I don't know - if you asked
someone's Mom, she'd say, "You'll poke your eye out with that!"
1994. Parking meter face plate.
1995. A still.
1996. A clock (the other clocks in the background are giveaways), but
it's pretty obvious.
1997. Something for setting elevations for siting.
1998. Not sure.

R

SR

"Steve R."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 12:05 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1d72ed99-0532-437e-8d61-bbf661fac542@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 29, 6:27 am, "Alexander Thesoso"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 1994 This, I recognize. It is an escutcheon plate from a radio [TV without
> pictures]. Probably a "Cathedral style" 1920's to early 1930's. I do not
> recognize the specific brand. The tuning knob is on a shaft coming through
> the bottom hole, and you see a backlit celluloid frequency scale through
> the
> upper aperture. The brand name is photoshopped from the center.


Correct, it's from an old Majestic radio.


Rob


That's why it looked familiar! As a kid, we had a Rogers Majestic console
radio in the living room.


Steve R.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 6:53 PM

On Jul 29, 9:27=A0pm, Michael Kenefick <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bricks?


Nope, it wasn't for use with bricks.

SR

"Steve R."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 12:01 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1530ca58-5bf0-4c80-a38a-7e092e955671@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1994 Looks like the escutcheon from an old radio dial. I used to run into
a lot of these as a kid.

1995 A still of some sort.


Steve R.


bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

02/08/2010 2:03 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
J Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2010-07-31, Robert Bonomi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>> Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
>>>> inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?
>>> Yup. Liquor taxes. In many jurisdictions, places that served alcoholic
>>> beverages 'by the drink' were *required* by law to break up the empties.
>>>
>>> It seems that a _lot_ of people find it nearly irresistible to re-fill
>>> such bottles with variants on 'shine', and pass it off as legit, since
>>> the bottle _has_ the tax stamps on it.
>>
>> This reminds me of when I spent a summer in Guyaquil Ecuador,
>> back around 1959. The honey (miel) from the marketplace would come in
>> various shaped bottles which had molded into them -- in English --
>> "Federal law prohibits reuse of this bottle." :-)
>>
>> Do booze bottles still have that? Since I don't drink hard
>> liquor, I don't know.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> DoN.
>>
>It was required from 1932 to 1964.

Any number of local jurisdictions required it for many years after the
Federal law change. There were state taxes as well as Federal ones.

As

Ade

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 8:28 PM

[email protected] did gone and wrote:
>
> > What were you doing in central Ohio?
>
>
> A little while ago I went to Springfield on some work related business and I
> stopped in an antique mall while I was there.

Nothing to do with selling them a monorail I hope.... ;)

--
Cheers, Ade. http://meddlingmonk.blogspot.com

"Your face reminds me of a roadkill's arsehole. Certainly not on my list
of things to kiss." - http://sleeptalkinman.blogspot.com

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 10:23 PM

What were you doing in central Ohio?
Mike in Hilliard

<snip> Central Ohio.
>
> Rob

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 9:27 PM

Bricks?

Rob H. wrote:
>> 1998) It looks as though it is intended to break something along a
>> centerline -- but no idea what or why.
>
>
>
> Good guess! You're on the right track here.
>
>
> Rob

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 9:33 PM

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:10:54 -0400, Alexander Thesoso wrote:

> Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily,
> but inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less
> value?

Sure.

Hand cancellation of postage stamps.

Punching a (transportation) ticket, or making a stub out of a (movie)
ticket.

Burning contraband. ;-)

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 6:27 AM

1994 This, I recognize. It is an escutcheon plate from a radio [TV without
pictures]. Probably a "Cathedral style" 1920's to early 1930's. I do not
recognize the specific brand. The tuning knob is on a shaft coming through
the bottom hole, and you see a backlit celluloid frequency scale through the
upper aperture. The brand name is photoshopped from the center.



"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1530ca58-5bf0-4c80-a38a-7e092e955671@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 10:52 AM

In article <1530ca58-5bf0-4c80-a38a-7e092e955671@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1995 - pot still
1997 - front sight for a hunting bow

JS

Jim Stewart

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 9:25 AM

1994 Parking meter faceplate

1995 Looks like some type of still

1996 Military Ordnance Corps "flaming bomb"
symbol.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 2:41 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1993 - Toenail trimmer for a werewolf?

1994 - Dial trim for a radio.

1995 - Copper distillery. Don't let the revenuer man catch you....

1996 -

1997 - Looks like a custom long distance sight for a bow.

1998 -


--
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(\___/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 7:41 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote:

>1997 - Looks like a custom long distance sight for a bow.

Ah, yes. I had said "front sight for a hunting bow" but I think now that was
incorrect. I still think it's the front sight for a bow, but it's for use by a
competition archer, not a hunter.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 5:36 PM


>Maybe to sharpen the ends of tree boughs for grafting? Apples, maybe?

>--riverman


Correct! It's a grafting tool, but not necessarily for any specific tree.
All but the last one were answered correctly this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/07/set-347.html#answers


Rob

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 6:37 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>Maybe to sharpen the ends of tree boughs for grafting?
>>Apples, maybe?
>
>>--riverman
>
>
> Correct! It's a grafting tool, but not necessarily for
> any specific tree. All but the last one were answered
> correctly this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/07/set-347.html#answers
>
>
> Rob

Did you ever find out what item 1977 in set 344 is? phil


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 6:58 PM



> Did you ever find out what item 1977 in set 344 is? phil


No I didn't, do you have an answer for it?

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 7:22 PM


"Rob H." <> wrote in message >
>
>> Did you ever find out what item 1977 in set 344 is? phil
>
>
> No I didn't, do you have an answer for it?


I thought it was some kind of boot puller but the gang here
didn't think so. Maybe they're right, eih? What do I know...
phil


AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 8:10 PM

I guess I'm part of a bygone age.
1998 is a bottle buster.

Why?

I find it hard to grasp why, at any stage of history, in any place, anyone
would want a gadget/machine to break bottles.

1) Breaking a bottle is not that difficult... just toss it into a garbage
can.

2) I'm part of the old generation that remembers deposits on milk, soda,
beer bottles. A fabricated bottle has far more value than a broken bottle.
Converting a bottle into cullet (broken glass) is not what I would think is
a useful or valuable operation.

Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1530ca58-5bf0-4c80-a38a-7e092e955671@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 9:41 PM

> I find it hard to grasp why, at any stage of history, in any place, anyone
> would want a gadget/machine to break bottles.
>
> 1) Breaking a bottle is not that difficult... just toss it into a garbage
> can.
>
> 2) I'm part of the old generation that remembers deposits on milk, soda,
> beer bottles. A fabricated bottle has far more value than a broken
> bottle. Converting a bottle into cullet (broken glass) is not what I would
> think is a useful or valuable operation.
>
> Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
> inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?


I don't have an answer but I did leave out one word, it's actually a Muzzy
Bottle Buster, I did some searching but couldn't find any patents or
mentions on the web. I once saw a soft drink bottle fall down a flight of
concrete steps and ended up still in one piece so not all bottles break as
easily as others. My guess was that someone was melting bottles to reuse
the glass and it was more efficient to store or transport them when broken.
This was for sale at an antique mall in Central Ohio.

Rob

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 11:32 PM

Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> I guess I'm part of a bygone age.
> 1998 is a bottle buster.
>
> Why?
>
> I find it hard to grasp why, at any stage of history, in any place, anyone
> would want a gadget/machine to break bottles.
>
> 1) Breaking a bottle is not that difficult... just toss it into a garbage
> can.
>
> 2) I'm part of the old generation that remembers deposits on milk, soda,
> beer bottles. A fabricated bottle has far more value than a broken bottle.
> Converting a bottle into cullet (broken glass) is not what I would think is
> a useful or valuable operation.
>
> Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
> inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?
>
Under United States law from 1932 to 1964, a bar or restaurant could be
fined $1000 for each empty liquor bottle not destroyed. Legal liquor
bottles had a permit number molded into the glass. It would have been
very profitable to use them for illegal liquor.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 7:37 AM


> Under United States law from 1932 to 1964, a bar or restaurant could be
> fined $1000 for each empty liquor bottle not destroyed. Legal liquor
> bottles had a permit number molded into the glass. It would have been
> very profitable to use them for illegal liquor.


Thanks for the information, just added it to my answer for this device.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 10:42 AM

> What were you doing in central Ohio?


A little while ago I went to Springfield on some work related business and I
stopped in an antique mall while I was there.


Rob

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 5:01 PM

DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2010-07-31, Robert Bonomi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
>>> inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?
>> Yup. Liquor taxes. In many jurisdictions, places that served alcoholic
>> beverages 'by the drink' were *required* by law to break up the empties.
>>
>> It seems that a _lot_ of people find it nearly irresistible to re-fill
>> such bottles with variants on 'shine', and pass it off as legit, since
>> the bottle _has_ the tax stamps on it.
>
> This reminds me of when I spent a summer in Guyaquil Ecuador,
> back around 1959. The honey (miel) from the marketplace would come in
> various shaped bottles which had molded into them -- in English --
> "Federal law prohibits reuse of this bottle." :-)
>
> Do booze bottles still have that? Since I don't drink hard
> liquor, I don't know.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
It was required from 1932 to 1964.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 2:21 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> wrote:
>I guess I'm part of a bygone age.
>1998 is a bottle buster.
>
>Why?
>
>I find it hard to grasp why, at any stage of history, in any place, anyone
>would want a gadget/machine to break bottles.
>
>1) Breaking a bottle is not that difficult... just toss it into a garbage
>can.
>
>2) I'm part of the old generation that remembers deposits on milk, soda,
>beer bottles. A fabricated bottle has far more value than a broken bottle.
>Converting a bottle into cullet (broken glass) is not what I would think is
>a useful or valuable operation.
>
>Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
>inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?

Yup. Liquor taxes. In many jurisdictions, places that served alcoholic
beverages 'by the drink' were *required* by law to break up the empties.

It seems that a _lot_ of people find it nearly irresistible to re-fill
such bottles with variants on 'shine', and pass it off as legit, since
the bottle _has_ the tax stamps on it.

KM

"Kerry Montgomery"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 6:33 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I guess I'm part of a bygone age.
> 1998 is a bottle buster.
>
> Why?
>
> I find it hard to grasp why, at any stage of history, in any place, anyone
> would want a gadget/machine to break bottles.
>
> 1) Breaking a bottle is not that difficult... just toss it into a garbage
> can.
>
> 2) I'm part of the old generation that remembers deposits on milk, soda,
> beer bottles. A fabricated bottle has far more value than a broken
> bottle. Converting a bottle into cullet (broken glass) is not what I would
> think is a useful or valuable operation.
>
> Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
> inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?
>
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1530ca58-5bf0-4c80-a38a-7e092e955671@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
>> post through Google groups today.
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>

Alexander,
The place I return bottles to for the deposit has a machine that takes the
bottle in, reads the info off it, credits me with the deposit, then audibly
breaks the bottle so that it takes up less space. I now have an image of
some poor soul inside the machine with an item number 1998!
Kerry

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 9:15 PM

1993 - Bullet case maker
1994 - Door peep hole missing knocker or front cover to parking meter.
1995 - Still, whiskey type
1996 - Bong
1997 - weight scale but for what?
1998 - not sure

Rob H. wrote:
> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 12:03 PM

Springfield has several nice antique stores.

Rob H. wrote:
>> What were you doing in central Ohio?
>
>
> A little while ago I went to Springfield on some work related business
> and I stopped in an antique mall while I was there.
>
>
> Rob

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 9:17 PM

Philco is what it appears to have said.

Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 1994 This, I recognize. It is an escutcheon plate from a radio [TV without
> pictures]. Probably a "Cathedral style" 1920's to early 1930's. I do not
> recognize the specific brand. The tuning knob is on a shaft coming through
> the bottom hole, and you see a backlit celluloid frequency scale through the
> upper aperture. The brand name is photoshopped from the center.
>
>
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1530ca58-5bf0-4c80-a38a-7e092e955671@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
>> post through Google groups today.
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>

PH

"Paul Hovnanian P.E."

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 11:17 AM

Rob H. wrote:

> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1994 is a dial pointer off an antique radio. Tuning shaft goes through the
lower (round) hole. The tuning dial sits behind the upper (square) window
with the pointers.

1995. Still (for moonshine?).


--
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
Have gnu, will travel.

Ss

"Snag"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 6:13 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1995 is a still and condenser coil - might be for moonshine , it's about the
right size for a small operation .

--
Snag
Wannabe Machinist

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

29/07/2010 9:19 PM

On 2010-07-29, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> For some reason my news server wasn't working properly so I had to
> post through Google groups today.

Good thing that I'm not blocking google postings (as many are).
You may have fewer responders this week.

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1993) Interesting. I wish that I could see how much overlap the
blade produces.

Anyway -- it looks to me as though it is intended to produce a
weakened "tear here" line -- alternating cuts and intact joins.
Unless the blade is very short, it would have to be something
soft like toilet paper or cloth. But for toilet paper, you
would want it to be automated, not manually operated.

1994) The escutcheon for an antique radio dial. The tuning knob
came out through the small hole at the bottom center, and the
deep window opens on a translucent scale-printed dial plate
(likely celluloid) with a small light behind it

And the case of the radio was wood and furniture-like.

1995) This looks like bootlegger's equipment -- the copper can for
boiling the mash, and the coil of copper tubing acting as the
condenser for distillation. Ideally, the coil would be
submerged in cool water if available -- but operation of such a
thing needed care in location to make it difficult for the
"revenuers" to find it and the operator. :-)

1996) Interesting! It appears as though the ball slides up and down
on the pole -- and perhaps floats on lamp oil of some form so it
also acts as a clock to indicate how much oil is left.

The container of matches near it supports the likelyhood of it
being a lamp.

What I *don't* see is where the oil is burned. Perhaps in the
finial at the top of the pole? Perhaps inside the ball -- if
the halves can be separated and are translucent.

1997) I think that this is a sight for a compound bow.. The light
green filament is the pointer, and will be adjusted up or down
to select the distance to the target.

1998) It looks as though it is intended to break something along a
centerline -- but no idea what or why.

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

30/07/2010 10:33 PM

On 2010-07-30, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 9:36 am, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 1993. It's too big to be for sharpening pencils, so it must be for
>> sharpening dowels.  For what purpose, I don't know - if you asked
>> someone's Mom, she'd say, "You'll poke your eye out with that!"
>
>
>
> You're not far off, it wasn't for dowels but was used by a particular
> type of farmer.

Perhaps for cutting sugar cane at an angle to make extracting
the sugar easier?

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 1:11 AM

On 2010-07-31, Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> wrote:
> I guess I'm part of a bygone age.
> 1998 is a bottle buster.
>
> Why?
>
> I find it hard to grasp why, at any stage of history, in any place, anyone
> would want a gadget/machine to break bottles.
>
> 1) Breaking a bottle is not that difficult... just toss it into a garbage
> can.
>
> 2) I'm part of the old generation that remembers deposits on milk, soda,
> beer bottles. A fabricated bottle has far more value than a broken bottle.
> Converting a bottle into cullet (broken glass) is not what I would think is
> a useful or valuable operation.
>
> Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
> inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?

At a guess -- so it would take up less space in the garbage
dump.

Or perhaps to provide raw material (glass fragments of various
colors) for making a mosaic or a Tiffany style lampshade? The colors
readily available were clear, brown, and green, with less common being
white and blue. I know someone who at least used to make stained glass
artwork -- though I don't know what his sources were.

After all -- the making of art is often the explanation for
otherwise illogical actions. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to "Rob H." on 29/07/2010 2:55 AM

31/07/2010 7:57 PM

On 2010-07-31, Robert Bonomi <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> wrote:

[ ... ]

>>Can any of you explain the rationale for making a machine to easily, but
>>inefficiently, convert something of value to something of less value?
>
> Yup. Liquor taxes. In many jurisdictions, places that served alcoholic
> beverages 'by the drink' were *required* by law to break up the empties.
>
> It seems that a _lot_ of people find it nearly irresistible to re-fill
> such bottles with variants on 'shine', and pass it off as legit, since
> the bottle _has_ the tax stamps on it.

This reminds me of when I spent a summer in Guyaquil Ecuador,
back around 1959. The honey (miel) from the marketplace would come in
various shaped bottles which had molded into them -- in English --
"Federal law prohibits reuse of this bottle." :-)

Do booze bottles still have that? Since I don't drink hard
liquor, I don't know.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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