Wow that opened up a can of worms
I think I'm going for the Delta Model 36-L31X-BC50 (3Hp X5 Series Lt Tilt).
I'm going for this more for the 5 year warranty and availability of after
market products here in North Carolina/USA. But I still can't get the
Powermatic 66 and now General 350/650 out of my head Decisions Decisions.
My wife and I are new to serious woodworking but we have done a lot of DIY
around the house with power hand tools e.g. reshingled roof, siding house
and built a large shed and all of them look great. Now we want to make
furniture, cabinets and whatever else we can think of or do not know yet.
Just trying to figure out the tools to get is endless and frustrating and I
thought the OSB vs. Plywood debate was tough!!
So could I ask the group with all your knowledge and great sage power if
you went back in time and were going to redo your shop and/or for serious
DIY's and had $5000 to $7,000 to set up a workshop what would you get? What
is over kill e.g. 6' joiner vs. 8" joiner. We would rather get one quality
tool and save up for the next then make a compromise and have regrets in the
future.
Thanks
Ken
Ken wrote...
>
> So could I ask the group with all your knowledge and great sage power if
> you went back in time and were going to redo your shop and/or for serious
> DIY's and had $5000 to $7,000 to set up a workshop what would you get?
Two words of advice: USED TOOLS.
Ok, a little explanation is in order. Virtually all of my stationary
woodworking tools are used, excellent quality older machines. These
include tablesaw, bandsaw, shaper, jointer, lathe (as well as my
metalworking lathe and vertical mill). I bought the routers, planer,
SCMS, drill press, and compressor new. The currently-under-construction
dust collector is a mix.
Good quality used machinery is seldom worn out, and often runs 1/2 the
cost of new or less. All the major woodworking machinery mentioned above
cost less than $3500, and I didn't get a killer deal on anything.
My only regrets: I'd like a beefier old >=15" planer -- the 13" Ridgid is
good, but I still have to plane larger cabinet door panels by hand -- and
I'd rather have a older 2-stage oil-type compressor.
> What is over kill e.g. 6' joiner vs. 8" joiner.
Well 8" certainly isn't overkill. I use the extra 2" quite often.
Cheers!
Jim
http://www.paragoncode.com/shop
Edwin Pawlowski wrote...
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> "Jim Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > Well 8" certainly isn't overkill. I use the extra 2" quite often.
> >
>
> Jim, let's just keep this on the newsgroup. I've been telling my wife for
> 37 years that another 2" would just be a waste and is not needed. So far
> she believes me. I think.
LOL! And I proofread that, too!
Jim
ROTFLMAO.........Good thing I'm not a coffee drinker. That's the best one
I've seen here for quite a while.
BTW, I use the metric system. Tell your wife it's 15 centimeters; sounds
better...
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jim Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > Well 8" certainly isn't overkill. I use the extra 2" quite often.
> >
>
> Jim, let's just keep this on the newsgroup. I've been telling my wife for
> 37 years that another 2" would just be a waste and is not needed. So far
> she believes me. I think.
> Ed
>
>
Ken wrote:
> So could I ask the group with all your knowledge and great sage
> power if you went back in time and were going to redo your shop
> and/or for serious DIY's and had $5000 to $7,000 to set up a workshop
> what would you get?
I would try to afford ($ and space) two tablesaws. ;-) A right tilt with a
sliding cutoff table and a left tilt with a wide fence for sheet goods. My
preference is to always have the blade tilted away.
Good cyclonic dust collection would also be a priority.
<$$Dreamin'$$>
A raised floor like a mainframe computer room would allow power & dust
collection under the floor, yet these could be moved relativly easily as the
layout changes.
</$$Dreamin'$$>
-- Mark
"Jim Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Well 8" certainly isn't overkill. I use the extra 2" quite often.
>
Jim, let's just keep this on the newsgroup. I've been telling my wife for
37 years that another 2" would just be a waste and is not needed. So far
she believes me. I think.
Ed
Ken and wife,
The last line of your post is the most telling. I concur. For basic
woodworking, a good solid work bench, a tablesaw, 6" jointer, 14" bandsaw,
bench top style planer and a drill press. These tools however, are all
subject to great debate as to their order of priority.
I'm sure you will get more posts detailing the debating the Delta/Jet/Other
issues, but I will offer this, buy the best you can afford and buy it as you
need it, depending on the project. I always justifiy the new tool based on
how much it saved me. ;-)
Lastly, buy good quality saw blades, chisels, hand planes and keep them
sharp.
Stay out of Harbor Freight and the like.
Enjoy the process of creating.
Dave
"Ken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wow that opened up a can of worms
>
>
>
> I think I'm going for the Delta Model 36-L31X-BC50 (3Hp X5 Series Lt
Tilt).
> I'm going for this more for the 5 year warranty and availability of after
> market products here in North Carolina/USA. But I still can't get the
> Powermatic 66 and now General 350/650 out of my head Decisions Decisions.
>
>
>
> My wife and I are new to serious woodworking but we have done a lot of DIY
> around the house with power hand tools e.g. reshingled roof, siding house
> and built a large shed and all of them look great. Now we want to make
> furniture, cabinets and whatever else we can think of or do not know yet.
> Just trying to figure out the tools to get is endless and frustrating and
I
> thought the OSB vs. Plywood debate was tough!!
>
>
>
> So could I ask the group with all your knowledge and great sage power if
> you went back in time and were going to redo your shop and/or for serious
> DIY's and had $5000 to $7,000 to set up a workshop what would you get?
What
> is over kill e.g. 6' joiner vs. 8" joiner. We would rather get one quality
> tool and save up for the next then make a compromise and have regrets in
the
> future.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken
>
>