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29/01/2006 6:14 PM

Holy cow, I actually made a hand-cut dovetail drawer!

I know this isn't necessarily exciting news as almost everybody in this
group has probably done it many times over but this was my first one!

I have been puttering around as often as I could the past couple of
weeks just cutting and fitting dovetail joints together. I sucked it
up and went for all four corners this time and, holy cow, it actually
looks pretty damn good.

Well, it isn't really a drawer; it's the four side but I had to make it
all fit together. And it is El Cheapo 1/2" pine but, heck, it fits
togerher.

Sure, everything doesn't fit together nice and tight--I didn't expect
pine to fit nicely. You can tell where I took off a little too much
wood and there is a bit of rip out between the pins and the tails but I
attribute much of that to the pine as it crushed pretty easily.

I admit I am not good with the chisel and I was getting anxious toward
the end and may have rushed things but, damn, it all fit. And
everything is square. And the tops all line up.

When I showed it to the wife she looked at it with a blank stare and
said, "Um, yeah, it's nice." My kids just said, "Eww! A square! Wow,
dad, you're talented." Sorry if this isn't newsworthy but I needed to
tell somebody and maybe, possibly, someone will appreciate this.


This topic has 10 replies

DN

"Dhakala"

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

29/01/2006 6:43 PM


[email protected] wrote:
> I know this isn't necessarily exciting news as almost everybody in this
> group has probably done it many times over but this was my first one!
>
> I have been puttering around as often as I could the past couple of
> weeks just cutting and fitting dovetail joints together. I sucked it
> up and went for all four corners this time and, holy cow, it actually
> looks pretty damn good.
>
> Well, it isn't really a drawer; it's the four side but I had to make it
> all fit together. And it is El Cheapo 1/2" pine but, heck, it fits
> togerher.
>
> Sure, everything doesn't fit together nice and tight--I didn't expect
> pine to fit nicely. You can tell where I took off a little too much
> wood and there is a bit of rip out between the pins and the tails but I
> attribute much of that to the pine as it crushed pretty easily.
>
> I admit I am not good with the chisel and I was getting anxious toward
> the end and may have rushed things but, damn, it all fit. And
> everything is square. And the tops all line up.
>
> When I showed it to the wife she looked at it with a blank stare and
> said, "Um, yeah, it's nice." My kids just said, "Eww! A square! Wow,
> dad, you're talented." Sorry if this isn't newsworthy but I needed to
> tell somebody and maybe, possibly, someone will appreciate this.

I felt exactly the same pride and excitement when I lost my virginity.

It wasn't pretty, but everything fit. :-)

d

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

29/01/2006 6:47 PM

Congrats,

It's more than I can do at the moment but a skill I hope to work on
someday. Your story reminded me an experience I had a while back. I
had an old video of tuning up shop equipment and the gentleman went
from tool to tool demonstrating the maintanence and then some sample
cuts progressing a drawer case like yours. My daughter was seven at
the time and watched for an hour just glued to it. As he finished the
last tool he assembled the draw and the credits rolled. She looked at
me with complete disbelief.

"A square..."?
"That's all he's going to make is a square"?

Oh someday, she and my son may hopefully come to know what an
accomplishment that first square really is. Anyway, congratulations.

Daryl

b

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

01/02/2006 1:11 PM

Bill,

Wow! Way to go!! Yours looks a hell of a lot better than mine. I
think part of my problem was the wood in that it was WAY too soft and I
just crushed the fibers when I used the chisel until i figured out that
it was probably better to saw a bunch of kerfs and then chisel them
out. I was trying to use a coping saw almost to the line but it
seemed like it was better to cut kerfs all the way down to my line and
chisel them out.

I hope my SECOND try looks as good as your first try! I was taking
somebody's advice and trying to do them as fast as I could. I
understand the philosophy but maybe I will take my time next time and
apply what I learned from the first time but also watch what I am doing
closer.

It is truly amazing when you put your sqaure to the joints and see them
all line up to 90-degrees.

I wonder, is this just a natural outcome of making a box out of these
joints? In other words, if you cut all the corners to fit, does the
object have no choice but to be square??

Bg

"Blocklayer"

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

04/02/2006 2:14 AM

If your starting out with dovetails, try this (free) dovetail template
generator. You can see how it will look, and then use the printed
templates to cut the tails.
http://www.blocklayer.com/Woodjoints/DovetailEng.aspx

LB

"Larry Bud"

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

04/02/2006 12:50 PM


> I felt exactly the same pride and excitement when I lost my virginity.
>
> It wasn't pretty, but everything fit. :-)

I heard the fit was a bit loose!

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

29/01/2006 11:07 PM

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:45:41 GMT, "Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:

>A true testament to the superior people skills and highly developed sense of
>empathy found in the modern american woman! They pass it to the kids also.
>At least you can be ready next time she asks "How do I look, really?".
>Wilson

Ready how? The ramifications of that oh-so-tempting answer to that
question are considerably more severe than the look and spousal support one
gets for the situation described below.

><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>I know this isn't necessarily exciting news as almost everybody in this
>> group has probably done it many times over but this was my first one!
>>
>> I have been puttering around as often as I could the past couple of
>> weeks just cutting and fitting dovetail joints together. I sucked it
>> up and went for all four corners this time and, holy cow, it actually
>> looks pretty damn good.
>>
>> Well, it isn't really a drawer; it's the four side but I had to make it
>> all fit together. And it is El Cheapo 1/2" pine but, heck, it fits
>> togerher.
>>
>> Sure, everything doesn't fit together nice and tight--I didn't expect
>> pine to fit nicely. You can tell where I took off a little too much
>> wood and there is a bit of rip out between the pins and the tails but I
>> attribute much of that to the pine as it crushed pretty easily.
>>
>> I admit I am not good with the chisel and I was getting anxious toward
>> the end and may have rushed things but, damn, it all fit. And
>> everything is square. And the tops all line up.
>>
>> When I showed it to the wife she looked at it with a blank stare and
>> said, "Um, yeah, it's nice." My kids just said, "Eww! A square! Wow,
>> dad, you're talented." Sorry if this isn't newsworthy but I needed to
>> tell somebody and maybe, possibly, someone will appreciate this.
>>
>


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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

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Wi

"Wilson"

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

30/01/2006 3:45 AM

A true testament to the superior people skills and highly developed sense of
empathy found in the modern american woman! They pass it to the kids also.
At least you can be ready next time she asks "How do I look, really?".
Wilson
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I know this isn't necessarily exciting news as almost everybody in this
> group has probably done it many times over but this was my first one!
>
> I have been puttering around as often as I could the past couple of
> weeks just cutting and fitting dovetail joints together. I sucked it
> up and went for all four corners this time and, holy cow, it actually
> looks pretty damn good.
>
> Well, it isn't really a drawer; it's the four side but I had to make it
> all fit together. And it is El Cheapo 1/2" pine but, heck, it fits
> togerher.
>
> Sure, everything doesn't fit together nice and tight--I didn't expect
> pine to fit nicely. You can tell where I took off a little too much
> wood and there is a bit of rip out between the pins and the tails but I
> attribute much of that to the pine as it crushed pretty easily.
>
> I admit I am not good with the chisel and I was getting anxious toward
> the end and may have rushed things but, damn, it all fit. And
> everything is square. And the tops all line up.
>
> When I showed it to the wife she looked at it with a blank stare and
> said, "Um, yeah, it's nice." My kids just said, "Eww! A square! Wow,
> dad, you're talented." Sorry if this isn't newsworthy but I needed to
> tell somebody and maybe, possibly, someone will appreciate this.
>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

30/01/2006 5:33 AM

I must admit I cut my first dovetails from pine. Then I tried cherry
and the dovetails were even better than the pine. I practiced one or
2 hours a day, and in two weeks perfected a useful & fun skill that
will last a lifetime. My drill and bit storage cabinet has hand-cut
dovetail drawers--all made from free pallet wood.

On 29 Jan 2006 18:14:12 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>I know this isn't necessarily exciting news as almost everybody in this
>group has probably done it many times over but this was my first one!
>
>I have been puttering around as often as I could the past couple of
>weeks just cutting and fitting dovetail joints together. I sucked it
>up and went for all four corners this time and, holy cow, it actually
>looks pretty damn good.
>
>Well, it isn't really a drawer; it's the four side but I had to make it
>all fit together. And it is El Cheapo 1/2" pine but, heck, it fits
>togerher.
>
>Sure, everything doesn't fit together nice and tight--I didn't expect
>pine to fit nicely. You can tell where I took off a little too much
>wood and there is a bit of rip out between the pins and the tails but I
>attribute much of that to the pine as it crushed pretty easily.
>
>I admit I am not good with the chisel and I was getting anxious toward
>the end and may have rushed things but, damn, it all fit. And
>everything is square. And the tops all line up.
>
>When I showed it to the wife she looked at it with a blank stare and
>said, "Um, yeah, it's nice." My kids just said, "Eww! A square! Wow,
>dad, you're talented." Sorry if this isn't newsworthy but I needed to
>tell somebody and maybe, possibly, someone will appreciate this.

WC

W Canaday

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

01/02/2006 11:06 AM

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:14:12 -0800, busbus wrote:

> I know this isn't necessarily exciting news as almost everybody in this
> group has probably done it many times over but this was my first one!
>

My first, made this weekend from dunnage plywood. Looks like death warmed
over, but it fits and it's at 90 deg.

http://bcanaday.photosite.com/Trainingpiece


Congrats. Oldtimers may have forgotten what it is like to teach yourself
how to do something ... but I sure haven't!

Bill

WC

W Canaday

in reply to [email protected] on 29/01/2006 6:14 PM

02/02/2006 5:44 PM

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:11:15 -0800, busbus wrote:

> I wonder, is this just a natural outcome of making a box out of these
> joints? In other words, if you cut all the corners to fit, does the
> object have no choice but to be square??

AFAIKT, if the SIDES of the pins & tails are at right angles to the wood,
perpendicularity is forced. I think small variances will balance
themselves out but I wouldn't care to try a large variation from one end
to the other.

FWIW, on the other hand, this observation is based on exactly one attempt.

Bill


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