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"tuppence"

02/11/2004 1:29 PM

Laminated gunstocks

Don't know how others might think, but I think laminated wood gunstocks look
every bit as ugly as polymer/fiberglass stocks. However, look at the site
http://www.acrabondlaminates.com and look at some of the photos of their
laminated stocks. These guys have a proprietary? method of laminating two
veneer-quality panels on the outside with three crossed panels inside.
Anyone got any ideas how they do it, please post them here. I assume they
are using vacuum pressing and the outer layers must be thicker than your
usual veneer. I would bet the upper and lower parts of the main stock (back
end) are solid wood strips. I would like to try it, so any ideas are
appreciated.
T.


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Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "tuppence" on 02/11/2004 1:29 PM

02/11/2004 2:40 PM

It took a while to find on their site, but they pretty much tell you
everything there is to know about the process at this link:
http://www.serengetistockworks.com/

HTH

Jim Ray, President
McFeely's Square Drive Screws
www.mcfeelys.com
(Proud owner of a Winchester 52C paper puncher with a laminated maple
stock!)

"tuppence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Don't know how others might think, but I think laminated wood gunstocks
look
> every bit as ugly as polymer/fiberglass stocks. However, look at the site
> http://www.acrabondlaminates.com and look at some of the photos of their
> laminated stocks. These guys have a proprietary? method of laminating two
> veneer-quality panels on the outside with three crossed panels inside.
> Anyone got any ideas how they do it, please post them here. I assume they
> are using vacuum pressing and the outer layers must be thicker than your
> usual veneer. I would bet the upper and lower parts of the main stock
(back
> end) are solid wood strips. I would like to try it, so any ideas are
> appreciated.
> T.
>
>

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "tuppence" on 02/11/2004 1:29 PM

02/11/2004 10:30 PM

I suspect that it depends on the style - a stock with a thick cheek piece
may have a thicker veneer than a stock without. I guess there is the
possibility that the cheekpiece would be the only part of the veneer left
after carving.

After re-reading their descriprion, I think what they are doing is cutting a
thick slab off one face, the bookmatching that and using the resulting two
pieces for the outside "veneers". The remaining slab is then cut into three
slabs, with the outer two reversed (flopped) to reorient the grain. The
inner slab is relatively thin, and appears to not be flopped in any way. In
summary, it is somewhat like they are turning the board "inside out". Sounds
like a lot of work, and I'm not sure how effective it really would be, but
it does somewhat insure figure on both faces of the stock.

Jim Ray
"tuppence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jim,
> Thanks. I had missed the details when I browsed their site. It's pretty
much
> as I had guessed. However, still can't figure out how thin the dress panel
> is on the outside surfaces or how much those surfaces are curved, and
> carved?, etc. It could be done with fine veneers and get as much showy
> surface as they get (maybe more), but who wants a thin-veneered gunstock?
> Although it could look very nice! And, with modern glues, would be very
> durable, especially if done in a vacuum. Oh well, just another project I
was
> thinking about doing, as if I needed another project...but I'll have to
try
> it anyway.
> T.
>
> "Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It took a while to find on their site, but they pretty much tell you
> > everything there is to know about the process at this link:
> > http://www.serengetistockworks.com/
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Jim Ray, President
> > McFeely's Square Drive Screws
> > www.mcfeelys.com
> > (Proud owner of a Winchester 52C paper puncher with a laminated maple
> > stock!)
> >
> > "tuppence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Don't know how others might think, but I think laminated wood gunstocks
> > look
> >> every bit as ugly as polymer/fiberglass stocks. However, look at the
site
> >> http://www.acrabondlaminates.com and look at some of the photos of
their
> >> laminated stocks. These guys have a proprietary? method of laminating
two
> >> veneer-quality panels on the outside with three crossed panels inside.
> >> Anyone got any ideas how they do it, please post them here. I assume
they
> >> are using vacuum pressing and the outer layers must be thicker than
your
> >> usual veneer. I would bet the upper and lower parts of the main stock
> > (back
> >> end) are solid wood strips. I would like to try it, so any ideas are
> >> appreciated.
> >> T.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "tuppence" on 02/11/2004 1:29 PM

03/11/2004 4:02 PM

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:29:01 -0500, "tuppence" <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:

>Don't know how others might think, but I think laminated wood gunstocks look
>every bit as ugly as polymer/fiberglass stocks. However, look at the site
>http://www.acrabondlaminates.com and look at some of the photos of their
>laminated stocks. These guys have a proprietary? method of laminating two
>veneer-quality panels on the outside with three crossed panels inside.
>Anyone got any ideas how they do it, please post them here. I assume they
>are using vacuum pressing and the outer layers must be thicker than your
>usual veneer. I would bet the upper and lower parts of the main stock (back
>end) are solid wood strips. I would like to try it, so any ideas are
>appreciated.

Probably anhydrous-ammonia-saturated thick veneer (very bendy stuff
from what I've heard) formed in a vacuum press, then glued on like a
shell and finished. Pretty cool for plywood, wot?


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ts

"tuppence"

in reply to "tuppence" on 02/11/2004 1:29 PM

02/11/2004 4:39 PM

Jim,
Thanks. I had missed the details when I browsed their site. It's pretty much
as I had guessed. However, still can't figure out how thin the dress panel
is on the outside surfaces or how much those surfaces are curved, and
carved?, etc. It could be done with fine veneers and get as much showy
surface as they get (maybe more), but who wants a thin-veneered gunstock?
Although it could look very nice! And, with modern glues, would be very
durable, especially if done in a vacuum. Oh well, just another project I was
thinking about doing, as if I needed another project...but I'll have to try
it anyway.
T.

"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It took a while to find on their site, but they pretty much tell you
> everything there is to know about the process at this link:
> http://www.serengetistockworks.com/
>
> HTH
>
> Jim Ray, President
> McFeely's Square Drive Screws
> www.mcfeelys.com
> (Proud owner of a Winchester 52C paper puncher with a laminated maple
> stock!)
>
> "tuppence" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Don't know how others might think, but I think laminated wood gunstocks
> look
>> every bit as ugly as polymer/fiberglass stocks. However, look at the site
>> http://www.acrabondlaminates.com and look at some of the photos of their
>> laminated stocks. These guys have a proprietary? method of laminating two
>> veneer-quality panels on the outside with three crossed panels inside.
>> Anyone got any ideas how they do it, please post them here. I assume they
>> are using vacuum pressing and the outer layers must be thicker than your
>> usual veneer. I would bet the upper and lower parts of the main stock
> (back
>> end) are solid wood strips. I would like to try it, so any ideas are
>> appreciated.
>> T.
>>
>>
>
>


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