JB

"John B"

13/03/2009 9:02 PM

A BORG Story

I walked into my local BORG, located a materials cart, and went to the sheet
goods section to buy some 1/4" birch plywood and 1/4" MDF. I looked around
for awhile and a young man came up and helpfully asked whether he could help
me. Sure, I said and told him what I wanted. He replied that they don't
stock those any more. As I stood there speechless, he offered my hardboard
instead of MDF and showed some yellowish looking plywood (all very warped).
He did not know what kind of wood the yellow plywood was, but he knew it was
from China. He then told me they had some of what I wanted left over cut
into 2x4 foot sections, which served my needs for the moment, but....

As I wandered about I also noticed that they are now stocking plywood in
metric thicknesses. I really don't know how to substitute for 1/4" birch,
which I use a lot of for cabinet door panels. Oh well, the good part of the
story is I now have almost no reason at all to enter a BORG. That's worth
something!


This topic has 10 replies

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

13/03/2009 10:06 PM


"John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I walked into my local BORG, located a materials cart, and went to the
>sheet goods section to buy some 1/4" birch plywood and 1/4" MDF. I looked
>around for awhile and a young man came up and helpfully asked whether he
>could help me. Sure, I said and told him what I wanted. He replied that
>they don't stock those any more. As I stood there speechless, he offered my
>hardboard instead of MDF and showed some yellowish looking plywood (all
>very warped). He did not know what kind of wood the yellow plywood was, but
>he knew it was from China. He then told me they had some of what I wanted
>left over cut into 2x4 foot sections, which served my needs for the moment,
>but....
>
> As I wandered about I also noticed that they are now stocking plywood in
> metric thicknesses. I really don't know how to substitute for 1/4" birch,
> which I use a lot of for cabinet door panels. Oh well, the good part of
> the story is I now have almost no reason at all to enter a BORG. That's
> worth something!

Which is why you need a good working relationship with a LUMBERYARD.


Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 11:26 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Is it sold as metric or is it simply not 3/4", 1/4", etc? Where have you
> been buying actual 1/4" thick plywood lately? I have not seen that stuff
in
> over 10 years.

Neither have I, but I suspect most home owners buying 1/4" ply at the Borg
pickup 6mm without knowing (or caring) about the difference.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 11:21 AM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "Upscale"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> Is it sold as metric or is it simply not 3/4", 1/4", etc? Where have
>>> you
>>> been buying actual 1/4" thick plywood lately? I have not seen that
>>> stuff
>>in
>>> over 10 years.
>>
>>Neither have I, but I suspect most home owners buying 1/4" ply at the Borg
>>pickup 6mm without knowing (or caring) about the difference.
>>
> So what Borg is it, that sells 6mm plywood? All I've seen for several
> years is
> 5.5mm or 5mm.


Probably the ones in Canada. In Houston I mostly see 7/32" sold as 1/4" or
23/32" sold as 3/4".

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 10:20 AM


"John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I walked into my local BORG, located a materials cart, and went to the
>sheet goods section to buy some 1/4" birch plywood and 1/4" MDF. I looked
>around for awhile and a young man came up and helpfully asked whether he
>could help me. Sure, I said and told him what I wanted. He replied that
>they don't stock those any more. As I stood there speechless, he offered my
>hardboard instead of MDF and showed some yellowish looking plywood (all
>very warped). He did not know what kind of wood the yellow plywood was, but
>he knew it was from China. He then told me they had some of what I wanted
>left over cut into 2x4 foot sections, which served my needs for the moment,
>but....

Ask another "clerk" get another answer. I was told that the company that
manufactured the "fence gate kit" that they had been stocking, went out of
business a couple of years ago. I have been buying them elsewhere ever
since.

>
> As I wandered about I also noticed that they are now stocking plywood in
> metric thicknesses. I really don't know how to substitute for 1/4" birch,
> which I use a lot of for cabinet door panels. Oh well, the good part of
> the story is I now have almost no reason at all to enter a BORG. That's
> worth something!

Is it sold as metric or is it simply not 3/4", 1/4", etc? Where have you
been buying actual 1/4" thick plywood lately? I have not seen that stuff in
over 10 years.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 5:16 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Is it sold as metric or is it simply not 3/4", 1/4", etc? Where have you
>> been buying actual 1/4" thick plywood lately? I have not seen that stuff
>in
>> over 10 years.
>
>Neither have I, but I suspect most home owners buying 1/4" ply at the Borg
>pickup 6mm without knowing (or caring) about the difference.
>
So what Borg is it, that sells 6mm plywood? All I've seen for several years is
5.5mm or 5mm.

MH

"Martin H. Eastburn"

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 10:29 PM

Odd - Lowe's carried Chile wood - owned by the oil cartel. Texas species
of tree. Figures. Take the jobs, take the business, take the species developed
for efficient plywood production. Figures.

Martin

sweet sawdust wrote:
> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I walked into my local BORG, located a materials cart, and went to the
>>> sheet goods section to buy some 1/4" birch plywood and 1/4" MDF. I looked
>>> around for awhile and a young man came up and helpfully asked whether he
>>> could help me. Sure, I said and told him what I wanted. He replied that
>>> they don't stock those any more. As I stood there speechless, he offered
>>> my hardboard instead of MDF and showed some yellowish looking plywood (all
>>> very warped). He did not know what kind of wood the yellow plywood was,
>>> but he knew it was from China. He then told me they had some of what I
>>> wanted left over cut into 2x4 foot sections, which served my needs for the
>>> moment, but....
>>>
>>> As I wandered about I also noticed that they are now stocking plywood in
>>> metric thicknesses. I really don't know how to substitute for 1/4" birch,
>>> which I use a lot of for cabinet door panels. Oh well, the good part of
>>> the story is I now have almost no reason at all to enter a BORG. That's
>>> worth something!
>> Which is why you need a good working relationship with a LUMBERYARD.
>>
>>
> My local lumberyard only carries plywood made in China, however the local
> Lowes carries US and Canada made Plywood. Go Figure?
>
>

ss

"sweet sawdust"

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 8:33 AM


"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I walked into my local BORG, located a materials cart, and went to the
>>sheet goods section to buy some 1/4" birch plywood and 1/4" MDF. I looked
>>around for awhile and a young man came up and helpfully asked whether he
>>could help me. Sure, I said and told him what I wanted. He replied that
>>they don't stock those any more. As I stood there speechless, he offered
>>my hardboard instead of MDF and showed some yellowish looking plywood (all
>>very warped). He did not know what kind of wood the yellow plywood was,
>>but he knew it was from China. He then told me they had some of what I
>>wanted left over cut into 2x4 foot sections, which served my needs for the
>>moment, but....
>>
>> As I wandered about I also noticed that they are now stocking plywood in
>> metric thicknesses. I really don't know how to substitute for 1/4" birch,
>> which I use a lot of for cabinet door panels. Oh well, the good part of
>> the story is I now have almost no reason at all to enter a BORG. That's
>> worth something!
>
> Which is why you need a good working relationship with a LUMBERYARD.
>
>
My local lumberyard only carries plywood made in China, however the local
Lowes carries US and Canada made Plywood. Go Figure?
>

Hn

Han

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 4:46 PM

Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote in news:q4Qul.12593$pr6.11835
@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com:

> And don't get me started on the plywood thing...

Well, I grew up in Holland and was all metric until '69, when it slowly
started to fade some. Guess my surprise when I went back and found a Borg
("Gamma") that had what looked like 8x4 ft sheetgoods with absolutely crayz
measurements in cm.

It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Just a pain to measure accurately,
whether in cm, mm, or SAE.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 10:24 AM

John B wrote:
> I walked into my local BORG, located a materials cart, and went to the
> sheet goods section to buy some 1/4" birch plywood and 1/4" MDF. I
> looked around for awhile and a young man came up and helpfully asked
> whether he could help me. Sure, I said and told him what I wanted. He
> replied that they don't stock those any more. As I stood there
> speechless, he offered my hardboard instead of MDF and showed some
> yellowish looking plywood (all very warped). He did not know what kind
> of wood the yellow plywood was, but he knew it was from China. He then
> told me they had some of what I wanted left over cut into 2x4 foot
> sections, which served my needs for the moment, but....
>
> As I wandered about I also noticed that they are now stocking plywood in
> metric thicknesses. I really don't know how to substitute for 1/4"
> birch, which I use a lot of for cabinet door panels. Oh well, the good
> part of the story is I now have almost no reason at all to enter a BORG.
> That's worth something!

Yeah, and if you can *find* their so-called 1/4" MDF, you will find that
it's not a true 1/4" but something less than that (the same thickness as
1/4" plywood I suppose). I still have some TRUE 1/4" MDF that's
incredibly useful; I use it for jigs and all kinds of stuff, but now I'm
not sure anyone even makes it any more.

And don't get me started on the plywood thing...

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JB

"John B"

in reply to "John B" on 13/03/2009 9:02 PM

14/03/2009 6:35 AM

I've heard of those. Back when I was a kid a friend's father owned one.

"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I walked into my local BORG, located a materials cart, and went to the
>>sheet goods section to buy some 1/4" birch plywood and 1/4" MDF. I looked
>>around for awhile and a young man came up and helpfully asked whether he
>>could help me. Sure, I said and told him what I wanted. He replied that
>>they don't stock those any more. As I stood there speechless, he offered
>>my hardboard instead of MDF and showed some yellowish looking plywood (all
>>very warped). He did not know what kind of wood the yellow plywood was,
>>but he knew it was from China. He then told me they had some of what I
>>wanted left over cut into 2x4 foot sections, which served my needs for the
>>moment, but....
>>
>> As I wandered about I also noticed that they are now stocking plywood in
>> metric thicknesses. I really don't know how to substitute for 1/4" birch,
>> which I use a lot of for cabinet door panels. Oh well, the good part of
>> the story is I now have almost no reason at all to enter a BORG. That's
>> worth something!
>
> Which is why you need a good working relationship with a LUMBERYARD.
>
>
>


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