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On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 11:09:08 AM UTC-5, John McCoy wrote:
> "Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > I really liked the guy's workshop. Not a power tool in sight. I was
> > surprised to see the array of Stanley planes all placed sole down.
> > (Note the number of Stanley boxes in cabinet and the number of hand
> > braces). Nick.
>
> Nothing wrong with putting a plane sole down, assuming it's
> on a wood surface. After all, wood is what the sole is
> intended to be pushed across.
>
> I do make it a habit to set my planes down on edge when I'm
> using them, because sometimes I'll set them on the table saw
> or jointer because there's too many bits and pieces on the
> bench. Definately don't want the blade hitting a cast iron
> surface!
>
> BTW, at least some of those planes aren't Stanley. The #62
> is a Lee Valley - it has the "handy grip" on the sides, which
> Stanley didn't use on that plane but LV does (not, on a plane
> of that size, that I can see how you'd use them).
>
> John

Setting the plane on the side keeps your much-sought perfect depth of cut for us weekenders. Paul Sellers is constantly micro-adjusting his planes, so it probably makes no difference to him.

Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> Setting the plane on the side keeps your much-sought perfect depth of
> cut for us weekenders. Paul Sellers is constantly micro-adjusting his
> planes, so it probably makes no difference to him.

You know, I haven't noticed much of a difference with sharpness after
carefully setting my planes down on their sole. I usually put them down on
a piece of hardboard, and while it might decrease the sharpness slightly so
does using it. I usually don't spend much time planing, so sharpening once
every 3-6 months doesn't bother me.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 9/30/2015 12:30 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 11:09:08 AM UTC-5, John McCoy
> wrote:
>> "Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> I really liked the guy's workshop. Not a power tool in sight. I
>>> was surprised to see the array of Stanley planes all placed sole
>>> down. (Note the number of Stanley boxes in cabinet and the number
>>> of hand braces). Nick.
>>
>> Nothing wrong with putting a plane sole down, assuming it's on a
>> wood surface. After all, wood is what the sole is intended to be
>> pushed across.
>>
>> I do make it a habit to set my planes down on edge when I'm using
>> them, because sometimes I'll set them on the table saw or jointer
>> because there's too many bits and pieces on the bench. Definately
>> don't want the blade hitting a cast iron surface!
>>
>> BTW, at least some of those planes aren't Stanley. The #62 is a
>> Lee Valley - it has the "handy grip" on the sides, which Stanley
>> didn't use on that plane but LV does (not, on a plane of that size,
>> that I can see how you'd use them).
>>
>> John
>
> Setting the plane on the side keeps your much-sought perfect depth of
> cut for us weekenders. Paul Sellers is constantly micro-adjusting his
> planes, so it probably makes no difference to him.
>

Just wondering here but do you think that setting the plane down on its
blade, on a wood surface, would affect the depth of cut any more than
simply planing wood?

Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Just saw this in Kinja. It looks fun and very useful. I'm thinking
> setting it up length-wise, going with the grain like a hand plane, and
> making some lines or holes for guides. Also, it looks like I could
> easily screw a fence along one side of the cutter to make rabbets.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2a_FwjAgk

I suspect if you go with the grain you might not get a
very tight hold on the chisel.

I also think that's a one-use tool - after you take the
chisel out to sharpen it, it's not going to seat tightly
again. OTOH, if you have a lot of need for such a thing,
you probably would already have rabbet planes, shoulder
planes, etc.

John

"Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I really liked the guy's workshop. Not a power tool in sight. I was
> surprised to see the array of Stanley planes all placed sole down.
> (Note the number of Stanley boxes in cabinet and the number of hand
> braces). Nick.

Nothing wrong with putting a plane sole down, assuming it's
on a wood surface. After all, wood is what the sole is
intended to be pushed across.

I do make it a habit to set my planes down on edge when I'm
using them, because sometimes I'll set them on the table saw
or jointer because there's too many bits and pieces on the
bench. Definately don't want the blade hitting a cast iron
surface!

BTW, at least some of those planes aren't Stanley. The #62
is a Lee Valley - it has the "handy grip" on the sides, which
Stanley didn't use on that plane but LV does (not, on a plane
of that size, that I can see how you'd use them).

John

Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I don't see how sharpness would be an issue. As John McCoy says, wood
> is wood. Depth of cut is probably a non-issue as well, unless the
> plane is set down hard. But I'll continue to lay the plane on its
> side. What the heck.

It's a good habit to have. Just in case you ever aren't
paying attention and set the plane down on something hard.

But I do store my planes sole down. Except for the shoulder
planes, which insist on falling over if I do.

John

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Just saw this in Kinja. It looks fun and very useful. I'm thinking setting
it up length-wise, going with the grain like a hand plane, and making some
lines or holes for guides. Also, it looks like I could easily screw a fence
along one side of the cutter to make rabbets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2a_FwjAgk

I agree with John McC as regards the usefulness of the tool. Went on to
watch a video following about preparing and sharpening chisels. Found that
interesting.
I really liked the guy's workshop. Not a power tool in sight. I was
surprised to see the array of Stanley planes all placed sole down. (Note the
number of Stanley boxes in cabinet and the number of hand braces).
Nick.

On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 2:13:47 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> >
> > Setting the plane on the side keeps your much-sought perfect depth of
> > cut for us weekenders. Paul Sellers is constantly micro-adjusting his
> > planes, so it probably makes no difference to him.
>
> You know, I haven't noticed much of a difference with sharpness after
> carefully setting my planes down on their sole. I usually put them down on
> a piece of hardboard, and while it might decrease the sharpness slightly so
> does using it. I usually don't spend much time planing, so sharpening once
> every 3-6 months doesn't bother me.
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

I don't see how sharpness would be an issue. As John McCoy says, wood is wood. Depth of cut is probably a non-issue as well, unless the plane is set down hard. But I'll continue to lay the plane on its side. What the heck.

On 9/30/2015 4:32 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> Michael <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I don't see how sharpness would be an issue. As John McCoy says, wood
>> is wood. Depth of cut is probably a non-issue as well, unless the
>> plane is set down hard. But I'll continue to lay the plane on its
>> side. What the heck.
>
> It's a good habit to have. Just in case you ever aren't
> paying attention and set the plane down on something hard.

Yes Plan for the unexpected.

>
> But I do store my planes sole down. Except for the shoulder
> planes, which insist on falling over if I do.
>
> John
>
Same here