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"todd"

08/10/2007 11:10 AM

thoughts on painting shop walls and ceiling

Finished hanging the drywall on Saturday in the shop area of the gar/shop.
The ceilings are 10 ft. I opted to have a couple of pros do the taping,
because frankly, I suck at taping, and I'd like to get it done sometime this
year. A good friend is a carpentry/drywall contractor, so he sent out two
guys to do the taping. Amazing what the proper tools and skills can do.
The ceiling is about 480 SF and the walls are another 700 SF. They taped
the joints and did the first layer of mud in about 2 1/2 hours. The bazooka
seems to be the key. Being able to walk on stilts to reach the 10 foot
ceiling helps also.

Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?

todd


This topic has 14 replies

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"William Andersen"

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

08/10/2007 9:26 AM

My preference is for white glossy paint: more reflective and easier to wipe
clean.

"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Finished hanging the drywall on Saturday in the shop area of the gar/shop.
> The ceilings are 10 ft. I opted to have a couple of pros do the taping,
> because frankly, I suck at taping, and I'd like to get it done sometime
> this year. A good friend is a carpentry/drywall contractor, so he sent
> out two guys to do the taping. Amazing what the proper tools and skills
> can do. The ceiling is about 480 SF and the walls are another 700 SF.
> They taped the joints and did the first layer of mud in about 2 1/2 hours.
> The bazooka seems to be the key. Being able to walk on stilts to reach
> the 10 foot ceiling helps also.
>
> Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
> prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
> suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about
> sheen? Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?
>
> todd
>

Bc

Bill

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

08/10/2007 5:34 PM

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:10:53 -0500, "todd" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Finished hanging the drywall on Saturday in the shop area of the gar/shop.
>The ceilings are 10 ft. I opted to have a couple of pros do the taping,
>because frankly, I suck at taping, and I'd like to get it done sometime this
>year. A good friend is a carpentry/drywall contractor, so he sent out two
>guys to do the taping. Amazing what the proper tools and skills can do.
>The ceiling is about 480 SF and the walls are another 700 SF. They taped
>the joints and did the first layer of mud in about 2 1/2 hours. The bazooka
>seems to be the key. Being able to walk on stilts to reach the 10 foot
>ceiling helps also.
>
>Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
>prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
>suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
>Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?
>
>todd
>

I painted my shop walls with antique white satin wall paint. Plenty
of light reflection with no glare, and it's just about the color of
sawdust <g>

Bill

FF

Ferd Farkel

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

08/10/2007 8:09 PM

On Oct 8, 12:10 pm, "todd" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Finished hanging the drywall on Saturday in the shop area of the gar/shop.
> The ceilings are 10 ft. I opted to have a couple of pros do the taping,
> because frankly, I suck at taping, and I'd like to get it done sometime this
> year. A good friend is a carpentry/drywall contractor, so he sent out two
> guys to do the taping. Amazing what the proper tools and skills can do.
> The ceiling is about 480 SF and the walls are another 700 SF. They taped
> the joints and did the first layer of mud in about 2 1/2 hours. The bazooka
> seems to be the key. Being able to walk on stilts to reach the 10 foot
> ceiling helps also.
>
> Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
> prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
> suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
> Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?
>
> todd

Cheap flat titanium white is the best reflective coating,
95% light reflection, second only to silver aluminum mylar
at 98%. Gloss and semi gloss paint will show distracting
bright spots when you turn on the lights.

ew

eekamouse

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

09/10/2007 12:59 PM

On Oct 9, 11:30 am, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> todd wrote:
> > Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
> > prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
> > suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
> > Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?
>
> I went pure white with flat ceiling and egshell walls.
>
> I'd stay away from glossy or even semigloss, as I find glare spots
> distracting.
>
> Use a good stiff roller frame (the flimsy consumer grade ones flex and
> make it harder to do a good job). I have an extendable fiberglass pole
> to give more reach. A better quality roller will hold more paint and
> apply it more evenly.
>
> The simplest is use a separate roller for the primer and the actual
> paint. If you do two final coats, in between coats you can remove the
> roller, wrap it tightly in a couple layers of saran wrap, and store it
> in the fridge.
>
> Chris

White white or white.gloss on the floor and semi on the walls and
ceilings......lots of light and parts etc are so easy to find if
dropped. When I was in the military (USAF) they started to paint the
shop and hanger floors high ghloss white. Yea white in a greasy oily
environement is a good idea is what we thought as it was gonna show
everything. Well it sure did and it made cleanup much easier and
seeing under airplanes and such was also imroved a 100% without
needing addional electric lights.......I liked it so much I painted my
metalworking shop and my wood shop with high gloss polyurethane on the
floor for better wear, and the walls with latex white in semi
gloss......Its been great.

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

12/10/2007 3:37 PM

On Oct 9, 12:30 pm, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> todd wrote:
> > Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
> > prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
> > suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
> > Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?
>
> I went pure white with flat ceiling and egshell walls.
>
> I'd stay away from glossy or even semigloss, as I find glare spots
> distracting.
>
> Use a good stiff roller frame (the flimsy consumer grade ones flex and
> make it harder to do a good job). I have an extendable fiberglass pole
> to give more reach. A better quality roller will hold more paint and
> apply it more evenly.
>
> The simplest is use a separate roller for the primer and the actual
> paint. If you do two final coats, in between coats you can remove the
> roller, wrap it tightly in a couple layers of saran wrap, and store it
> in the fridge.

Actually, if all the gear isn't in, a paint sprayer is the best option
for large areas. I painted 1/3 of my shop ceiling (shop is 1200 SF)
with a roller. I then borrowed an airless sprayer (not the handheld
junk). I repainted that third, did the rest, waited six hours and came
back and second coated it in less time that the first third had taken
with a roller.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

08/10/2007 3:41 PM


"Bill" wrote:

> I painted my shop walls with antique white satin wall paint. Plenty
> of light reflection with no glare, and it's just about the color of
> sawdust <g>

That would also be my choice.

Lew

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

09/10/2007 10:30 AM

todd wrote:

> Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
> prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
> suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
> Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?

I went pure white with flat ceiling and egshell walls.

I'd stay away from glossy or even semigloss, as I find glare spots
distracting.

Use a good stiff roller frame (the flimsy consumer grade ones flex and
make it harder to do a good job). I have an extendable fiberglass pole
to give more reach. A better quality roller will hold more paint and
apply it more evenly.

The simplest is use a separate roller for the primer and the actual
paint. If you do two final coats, in between coats you can remove the
roller, wrap it tightly in a couple layers of saran wrap, and store it
in the fridge.

Chris

DJ

Douglas Johnson

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

18/10/2007 10:17 PM

"todd" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
>prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
>suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
>Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?

I used Sherman Williams "Sea Oats" on the walls and "Bone China" on the ceiling,
both in flat. Very light, but not glaring. SWMBO approved.

-- Doug

mM

[email protected] (Malcolm Hoar)

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

08/10/2007 4:33 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "todd" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
>prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
>suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
>Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?

Yes, be sure to prime new drywall. I'd go for semi-gloss; washable
but not too shiny. Some kind of beige or off-white; it will help
with the light but without too much glare.


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dpb

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

08/10/2007 11:45 AM

Malcolm Hoar wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "todd" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm planning to
>> prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder if anyone has any
>> suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way to go. What about sheen?
>> Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to consider?
>
> Yes, be sure to prime new drywall. I'd go for semi-gloss; washable
> but not too shiny. Some kind of beige or off-white; it will help
> with the light but without too much glare.

Agree on all points. W/ 10-ft ceiling I'd consider the gloss white for
ceiling for the light, but I'd not want pure white gloss on the walls.

A latex enamel will be hard and durable, but I'd also go to a semigloss
rather than high gloss on the walls...

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"dadiOH"

in reply to "todd" on 08/10/2007 11:10 AM

08/10/2007 5:18 PM

todd wrote:
> Ok, the point is, I'm going to be ready to paint soon. I'm
> planning to prime everything, of course, but after that, I wonder
> if anyone has any suggestions for paint. White seems to be the way
> to go. What about sheen? Semi-gloss? Gloss? Anything else to
> consider?

I like white and glossy. Preferably oil. Ditto the floor. Crud will
blow off the walls.

Unfortunately, I have white, flat and latex except for the floor which
is white, glossy and polyurethane. I'd repaint walls and ceiling but
the thought of getting the place clean enough to do so boggles my
mind.


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in reply to "dadiOH" on 08/10/2007 5:18 PM

08/10/2007 1:44 PM

Mon, Oct 8, 2007, 5:18pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (dadiOH) doth
sayeth:
I like white and glossy. Preferably oil. Ditto the floor. Crud will blow
off the walls.
Unfortunately, I have white, flat and latex except for the floor which
is white, glossy and polyurethane. I'd repaint walls and ceiling but the
thought of getting the place clean enough to do so boggles my mind.

I used semi-gloss white latex. Had I to do it over, it'd be the
brightest gloss white latex I could find, floor too. Minimum two coats.
Latex preferred, cleans up easier, smells better.

You can clean off walls? Gloss dulls soon enough, what with dust,
stuff hanging on walls, and from the ceiling. I figure get as shiny as
you can, because it won't be that shiny that long. I'm not about to
take my stuff out and re-do it, so I live with it.



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in reply to "dadiOH" on 08/10/2007 5:18 PM

08/10/2007 9:56 PM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:13111-470A6C7B-2365
@storefull-3331.bay.webtv.net:

*snip*

>
> You can clean off walls? Gloss dulls soon enough, what with dust,
> stuff hanging on walls, and from the ceiling. I figure get as shiny as
> you can, because it won't be that shiny that long. I'm not about to
> take my stuff out and re-do it, so I live with it.
>
>
>
> JOAT

Besides! Think of all those memories! The yellow mark from the kickback
of '04, the brown marks from the can of stain that "exploded" as you got
it open, the purple marks from the PVC glue.

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B A R R Y

in reply to "dadiOH" on 08/10/2007 5:18 PM

08/10/2007 10:28 PM

On 08 Oct 2007 21:56:11 GMT, Puckdropper <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Besides! Think of all those memories! The yellow mark from the kickback
>of '04, the brown marks from the can of stain that "exploded" as you got
>it open, the purple marks from the PVC glue.

I thought I was the only one who hired that decorator!

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