"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
>> Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books. With
>> holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without runners.
>> One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
>
> You forgot about the part where all you had for breakfast was sawdust.
... and "Too poor to pay attention" and "we lived so far back in the woods
we had to head towards town to hunt."
Love your web site. What do I need to do one similar of my workshop?
Also, speaking of cold, I'm in Colorado. It's not only cold today but
the wind is howling. My two propane heaters barely make it bearable.
The noise is a nuisance, though.
My philosophy: cold winters make you appreciate the summer. I spent
some time in Sweden and they share that philosophy big time....
In fact speaking of Sweden, I may be (50% chance) assigned to
Stockholm for three years startring in April. That means my shop will
sit idle for that period. I may buy a mini-lathe to take with me,
though. Depsite my loss of the workshop for three years, I'm actually
excited about the assignment -- Swedish lessons on Saturdays.
Apartment near the Baltic -- maybe buy kayaks or sail boats. Work my
buttocks off the rest of the time at work (there's a promotion
involved but with that promotion comes a bunch of work).
On Feb 3, 11:49 am, "Stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
> the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
> --
> Stoutmanwww.garagewoodworks.com
############################################
well. . . .. it got down in the low 60s here (Oahu) which is chilly
to me when you realize we don't have heat in the house. I DO turn
on the de-humidifier, which throws off a little heat.
I left northern Ind. 50 or so yrs. ago just to escape those damnable
cold winters. Only return to visit summers !
Aloha,
Smitty
On Feb 3, 11:19 am, "J." <[email protected]> wrote:
> 28 degrees here just north of NYC, basement shop maybe 10 degrees
> warmer. Quartz heater on. I see your cold front's heading this way.
> I have a huge box full of unsorted fasteners that I think I'll be
> sorting -- in front of the fireplace in the living room! -- tomorrow. :-)
>
> J.
>
> Stoutman wrote:
> > Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
> > the cold woodshop.
>
> > Need a heater!
On Feb 4, 2:06 pm, "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hopefully the beer I left out there thaws out soon.....--dave
Tip from a Canuckistani: after the beer thaws out, turn the bottle end-
over-end a few times...gently.
Then let sit for a couple of minutes and open it.
It was explained to me once..something about specific gravity. It made
sense and indeed it improves the taste after a freeze. I know a little
something about frozen beer; I used to be an avid ice-fisherman
(Sometimes I'd catch up to 30 pounds of ice!) but I stopped when
arthritis set in and it became too difficult to chop a big enough hole
in the ice for my boat to fit in.
I still miss the sound of the sinker hitting the ice after a nice long
cast....
On Feb 4, 11:49 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Sun, Feb 4, 2007, 2:29pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Robatoy) doth
> sayeth:
> <snip> became too difficult to chop a big enough hole in the ice for my
> boat to fit in.
> I still miss the sound of the sinker hitting the ice after a nice long
> cast....
>
> What's really a bitch is making the hole long enough for trolling.
>
LOL..then the image struck me of a series of individual holes, on
either side of the long hole for the oars..... then again, I may not
think like other people.
You could get some fricking leverage though.... but then you wouldn't
be trolling any more... you could go skiing.
There's a Canadian beer commercial in there somewhere. We call that
self-defacating humour here.
I love the concept.. a canoe with a tighter rib package for a breaker-
bow.
Problem.. you could ride the thing onto the ice..then what? What-the-
hell, might as well go fishing.
Sun, Feb 4, 2007, 2:29pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Robatoy) doth
sayeth:
<snip> became too difficult to chop a big enough hole in the ice for my
boat to fit in.
I still miss the sound of the sinker hitting the ice after a nice long
cast....
What's really a bitch is making the hole long enough for trolling.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
A 4.8 KW contruction heater keeps my shop nice and toasty. But when I
have the DC, tablesaw AND the heater going, the breaker blows when the
compressor fires up.
My dream is under-floor radiant heating. Small boiler (could be
electric) and tubing in the floor. I love the feel of that.
Forced air is so dirty. And natural gas, although the cheapest for me
here, is not suitable because of the 'kaboom' factor when dealing with
solid surface adhesives and spraying contact cement.
I suppose one could do a natural gas boilerette outside the shop and
feed the tubes from there.
Looks like spring will be the time for me to build. 582 square feet is
the cut-off here. After that, you need to dig deep for proper footings
etc. That's 24 x 24-ish. Not what I wanted. Two of those would be
nice, we'll see what the city council has to say. I have room on
either property for 1000 sq-ft without violating the 'coverage' laws.
Concrete is so darned expensive!
On Feb 5, 6:50 pm, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Oh well, gives me a chance to do it right I guess...
>
There is a lot to be said for doing insulation right....and to do it
right, you often have to do it yourself. (I don't suggest you take out
your own appendix.)
Stoutman wrote:
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
> the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
I have a smallish shop at one end of the garage with a second garage
door separating them. When we first moved here (SoCal mountains) I had
a portable electric heater that I would put on the workbench. The glue
bottle had a place in front of it and I tried to do as much assembly
work there as possible. Then, hallelujah, I saw the light and got a
Reznor gas heater. Zero dF outside, 60dF inside. I get all excited
just thinking about it.
weirdly,
jo4hn
Stoutman wrote:
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
> the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
I just got a natural gas unit heater installed in my garshop today. 45K
Btu/hr.
Got an unpleasant surprise though...apparently there is no insulation in
the ceiling, even though the walls are insulated. Just bought the house
in November, saw insulation in the walls and vapour barrier around the
edges of the ceiling so I assumed it was insulated up there. No access
hatch, so I couldn't actually look up there.
Oh well, gives me a chance to do it right I guess...
Chris
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:26:30 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Swingman wrote:
>
> > TB Extend is good to 40
>
>Maybe it is, but I'm not.
>
>Anything below 65F, screw it.
My basement shop never gets above 65 even in the summer. 60 can
actually be pretty nice, especially if you are doing anything like
hand planing where you're going to work up a sweat. I'll have to go
down to a t-shirt to be comfortable.
55 is about my threshold for being comfortable with a reasonable
amount of layers.
Low 50s are doable, but the first half hour is pretty bad. Once I get
used to it and get focused on the work I don't really notice it
anymore. It's an encouragement to not stand around doing nothing.
-Leuf
In article <[email protected]>, "Stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
>Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
>the cold woodshop.
Remember the recent thread discussing the pros and cons of a basement
workshop?
*My* shop is toasty warm today... and every day...
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
"Leuf" wrote in message
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:55:07 GMT, "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I hear ya! I've got a fire built, and a radiant kero going. The combo
> >couldn't keep the shop much above 50 deg. so I broke out the kero torpedo
> >which kicks on occasionally to maintain 60 deg so I can finish a glue up.
>
> TB II is good to 55
> TB III is good to 45
>
> Round about december I switch to TB III, basement shop stays about 50.
TB Extend is good to 40
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/02/07
> Love your web site. What do I need to do one similar of my workshop?
Thank you. I used Microsoft's FrontPage to make and publish my website.
Propane heaters, that's what I need!
-Congratulations on the promotion!
> Also, speaking of cold, I'm in Colorado. It's not only cold today but
> the wind is howling. My two propane heaters barely make it bearable.
> The noise is a nuisance, though.
>
> My philosophy: cold winters make you appreciate the summer. I spent
> some time in Sweden and they share that philosophy big time....
>
> In fact speaking of Sweden, I may be (50% chance) assigned to
> Stockholm for three years startring in April. That means my shop will
> sit idle for that period. I may buy a mini-lathe to take with me,
> though. Depsite my loss of the workshop for three years, I'm actually
> excited about the assignment -- Swedish lessons on Saturdays.
> Apartment near the Baltic -- maybe buy kayaks or sail boats. Work my
> buttocks off the rest of the time at work (there's a promotion
> involved but with that promotion comes a bunch of work).
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 11:49 am, "Stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
>> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
>> in
>> the cold woodshop.
>>
>> Need a heater!
>>
>> --
>> Stoutmanwww.garagewoodworks.com
>
>
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 13:49:03 -0500, "Stoutman" <.@.> wrote:
>Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
>the cold woodshop.
>
>Need a heater!
>
Yer all a pack of nancy boys. I live in the -40 capital of North
America. I'd love it if the temp hit a balmy -10. It's currently
-27 with an expected low of -34. Celcius.
Pete
Well, I've decided to brave the cold and open the shop today. Went out this
am to find it at 11deg INSIDE. Turned the kero torpedo on, lit the radiant
kero and headed out to split some fire wood. After 1/2 hour of splitting
wood, I was STILL cold. Went into the shop to find it at a cozy 34deg. It
actually felt pretty warm! Built a fire and let the heaters do their thing.
I've found the best way to warm cold fingers is to grab a card scraper and
get to work. Right now it's probably costing me about $2.00 a minute to
keep it at 55deg, but I'm making progress on a table top I glued up
yesterday! Hopefully the beer I left out there thaws out soon.....--dave
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
> in the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
>
You Yanks have no real sense of cold , went into my workshop it is -40c
did a little sanding had to give it up feet too cold . Bye the way I'm in
central Can.
Sal
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
> in the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
>
Sat, Feb 3, 2007, 1:49pm (Stoutman) doth lament:
Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
in the cold woodshop.
Need a heater!
Yeah, tell me about it. I live a tad east of Raleigh. We've had
snow twice this winter, and some of it even lasted until the next day
even.
Uh huh, yeah, sure, right, cold. I was born and raised in
Michigan, but stayed down here when I retired from the Army. It doesn't
get COLD down here, just cool. And my mother seriously thinks I'd like
to move back to Michigan. But it wasn't the weather that kept me from
doing that, it was the people. Worst damn winters I ever spent were
when I was at Ft Lee, VA. Never got lower than 32 degrees above zero
farenheight, but the wind cut right thru anything you wore.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
I can empathize Stoutman. I've built a number of things in the gar, er
shop when it was cold enough to see my breath. I finally broke down and
bought a unit heater. I insulated the garage door and that baby keeps it
as warm as I want it. Lately at night, when I do most of my work, it's
been getting into the teens (and lower) and I'm toasty warm. I think it
was around $400 off of Ebay (search for Dornback). Very similar to the Mr.
Heater version but a lot cheaper. It works great!
Cheers,
cc
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
> in the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
>
On 3 Feb 2007 13:53:03 -0800, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>############################################
>well. . . .. it got down in the low 60s here (Oahu) which is chilly
>to me when you realize we don't have heat in the house. I DO turn
>on the de-humidifier, which throws off a little heat.
>I left northern Ind. 50 or so yrs. ago just to escape those damnable
>cold winters. Only return to visit summers !
>Aloha,
>Smitty
>
>
60F in Hawaii? What is the world coming to? ;)
It must be global warming.
"Dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
> Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books. With
> holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without runners. One
> time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
You forgot about the part where all you had for breakfast was sawdust.
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
> in the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
> --
I have a heater, but still won't be out in the shop for the next week or so.
The heater is not enough once it gets below about 20F and after tomorrow, it
will not get that high al week.
Not sure where you are but here in central Wisc. we might get above zero....
next week....for a high.
Wifey loves when I get up at 6 to start wood fire and.lug in the clamped and
glued pieces to cure in house .
Wood stove and an electric heater still takes 2 hours to get up to 60
Gotta love this global warming.
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
> in the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
>
28 degrees here just north of NYC, basement shop maybe 10 degrees
warmer. Quartz heater on. I see your cold front's heading this way.
I have a huge box full of unsorted fasteners that I think I'll be
sorting -- in front of the fireplace in the living room! -- tomorrow. :-)
J.
Stoutman wrote:
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
> the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
Leon" wrote in message
> LOL... I have been "going to work" out in the shop all week. Had good
> intentions of doing it today and yet I sit here typing with cold hands.
I managed to get about four hours shop time in yesterday despite being a bit
too chilly for my taste.
Cutting panels too long for the shop to size, but finding a way ... you
_can_ cut 61" long x 17" wide panels, to width, on a UniGuard equipped
Unisaw, with a BIG panel sled, a couple of screws, and a whole lotta
'no-other-choice'.
Then, standing on a ladder looking/feeling like an Eskimo on a popsicle
stick, to use the Leigh D4 jig (which was stacked atop a tottering, throw-up
tower) to cut 'through dovetails' in four ends of those same 61" long
panels.
... nice to be making sawdust on your own account for a change, even if it
was full of chilly challenges. :)
Supposed to be 60 and sunny tomorrow ... perfect shop weather!
... and it figures that I have to hold an open house!
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/02/07
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote in news:gH6xh.18690$yx6.9130
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> Re: Subject
>
> Found it necessary to return to Northern Ohio last week.
>
> As I stepped off the plane and my senses got hit with 17F weather, I
> remembered why I left.
>
> During my stay, night time temps of 0F and wind chills of -10F were
> common along with 12"-15" of snow in the "Snow Belt", east of Cleveland.
>
> Oh well, at least the ground hog didn't see his shadow.
>
> Maybe it will be warmer my next trip back.
>
> Lew
>
I have a nephew in that area, near Cleveland, on temporary assignment for a
couple of years. Home for him is just east of Tuscon, AZ. He's freezing
hisself pretty good right about now.
Patriarch
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:40:16 -0600, "sal" <[email protected]> wrote:
>You Yanks have no real sense of cold ,
I'd say many of us have more sense than to live in an area where it gets
to -40C (or -40F for that matter, they are the same) on a regular basis.
;-)
Seems Wisconsin, Michigan, North Dakota tend to get to those temps pretty
regularly during the winter.
> went into my workshop it is -40c
>did a little sanding had to give it up feet too cold . Bye the way I'm in
>central Can.
>
>Sal
>
>"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
>> in the cold woodshop.
>>
>> Need a heater!
>>
>> --
>> Stoutman
>> www.garagewoodworks.com
>>
>>
>
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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Here in Chicago it is the same, heavily blowing winds with a wind chill
of -15 at 2pm. It is so cold my kerosene heater is not working so no
woodworking done today. They said sometime next week we should be in the
single digits, but then I big warmup to the 20's next weekend. WOO HOO!
Jon
"Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Not sure where you are but here in central Wisc. we might get above
> zero.... next week....for a high.
> Wifey loves when I get up at 6 to start wood fire and.lug in the clamped
> and glued pieces to cure in house .
> Wood stove and an electric heater still takes 2 hours to get up to 60
> Gotta love this global warming.
> "Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
>> in the cold woodshop.
>>
>> Need a heater!
>>
>> --
>> Stoutman
>> www.garagewoodworks.com
>>
>>
>
>
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:09:00 GMT, "Mark Jerde" <[email protected]>
wrote:
... snip
>
>... and "Too poor to pay attention"
I think that one belongs, as an excuse, in another thread in progress.
;-)
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
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"Doug Payne" wrote
> On 03/02/2007 4:53 PM, Dude wrote:
>
>> When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
>> Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books. With
>> holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without runners.
>> One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
>
> You had socks?
I remember one snowy morning when I was a kid walking to the bus stop. It
was cold and windy. The bus was a little late and we were happy to get onto
a heated bus. A short distance away, the bus got stuck. The driver was
frantic. We told him to calm down. We would go home and get the tractor and
pull him out.
We took our time, had a few snowball fights and eventually got the bus
pulled out. The driver was still frantic and wanted us to leave the tractor
at the neighbor's place. We said no. We returned the tractor to it's
shelter.
When I eventually got to school, hours late, the principal met me and asked
what happened. When I told him, he burst out laughing. When I asked him
what was so funny, he said that I was the only seventh grade student he ever
had that pulled out a big yellow school bus with the family tractor.
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On 03/02/2007 4:53 PM, Dude wrote:
> When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
> Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books.
> With holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without
> runners. One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
You had socks?
Probably worth trottin' this one out again...
50° Fahrenheit (10°C) --- Californians shiver uncontrollably, Canadians
plant gardens.
35° Fahrenheit (1.6°C) --- Italian cars won't start, Canadians drive
with the windows down.
32° Fahrenheit (0°C) --- American water freezes, Canadian water gets
thicker.
0° Fahrenheit (-17.9°C) --- New York City landlords finally turn on the
heat, Canadians have the last barbecue of the season.
-60° Fahrenheit (-51°C) --- Mt. St. Helens freezes, Canadians Girl
Guides sell cookies door to door.
-100° Fahrenheit (-73°C) --- Santa Claus abandons the North Pole, Ottawa
opens the Rideau canal for skating.
-173° Fahrenheit (-114°C) --- Ethyl alcohol freezes, Canadians get
frustrated when they can't thaw the keg.
-460° Fahrenheit (-273°C) --- Absolute zero; all atomic motion stops,
Canadians start saying "cold, eh?"
-500° Fahrenheit (-295°C) --- Hell freezes over, Toronto Maple Leafs win
the Stanley Cup.
Re: Subject
Found it necessary to return to Northern Ohio last week.
As I stepped off the plane and my senses got hit with 17F weather, I
remembered why I left.
During my stay, night time temps of 0F and wind chills of -10F were
common along with 12"-15" of snow in the "Snow Belt", east of Cleveland.
Oh well, at least the ground hog didn't see his shadow.
Maybe it will be warmer my next trip back.
Lew
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
in
> the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
Ditto ... although it's probably warm here by comparison (low 50's in the
sun). I did some "CAD woodworking" this morning (better than nothing) then
went out twice, but the residual cold in the shop from the 30's last night
just made it too uncomfortable to stay long.
Managed to put down a few layout marks before I quit and came back in to
warm myself up with an eternal wRec argument, or two ... can't wait for
those productive high 90's again! ;)
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On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 14:09:27 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
>> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
>in
>> the cold woodshop.
>>
>> Need a heater!
>
>Ditto ... although it's probably warm here by comparison (low 50's in the
>sun). I did some "CAD woodworking" this morning (better than nothing) then
>went out twice, but the residual cold in the shop from the 30's last night
>just made it too uncomfortable to stay long.
Low 50s? That's T-shirt weather! We've got a low temp (not
windchill) of -21*F tonight.
Still pretty comfy in the basement shop, though.
>Managed to put down a few layout marks before I quit and came back in to
>warm myself up with an eternal wRec argument, or two ... can't wait for
>those productive high 90's again! ;)
See, now high 90s are when I can't get anything useful done.
Stoutman wrote:
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
> the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books.
With holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without
runners. One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
J T wrote:
> Sat, Feb 3, 2007, 2:53pm (EST-2) [email protected] (Dude) doth claimeth:
> When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
> Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books.
> With holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without
> runners. One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
>
> Yeah, right. I've heard probably all of those. Way back until we
> moved just before I got in the 7th grade. We lived on a dead-end
> street, insid of town limits. Which made me, and the neighbor kids,
> ineligible to get bus rides.
The limit for bus rides was 1 mile. I lived one street too close. In
Michigan my Michigan. Used to sit over the sewer vents on the way home
to warm up a bit if the wind wasn't too bad.
Bill
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Sat, Feb 3, 2007, 2:53pm (EST-2) [email protected] (Dude) doth claimeth:
When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books.
With holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without
runners. One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
Yeah, right. I've heard probably all of those. Way back until we
moved just before I got in the 7th grade. We lived on a dead-end
street, insid of town limits. Which made me, and the neighbor kids,
ineligible to get bus rides. So we all had a nice half mile one-way
walk to school, starting in fhe first grade (no kindergarten back then)
until we moved. Rain, sun, snow, whatever, we walked both ways.
Nowadays that'd probably be considered cruel and inhumane. Back then no
one thought anything of it. How times have changed. This was in
Michigan, so you know we got snow. When we moved I was on a school bus
route. I thought I was squattin' in tall cotten then.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 03:51:51 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Sat, Feb 3, 2007, 2:53pm (EST-2) [email protected] (Dude) doth claimeth:
>When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
>Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books.
>With holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without
>runners. One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
>
> Yeah, right. I've heard probably all of those. Way back until we
>moved just before I got in the 7th grade. We lived on a dead-end
>street, insid of town limits. Which made me, and the neighbor kids,
>ineligible to get bus rides. So we all had a nice half mile one-way
>walk to school, starting in fhe first grade (no kindergarten back then)
>until we moved. Rain, sun, snow, whatever, we walked both ways.
>Nowadays that'd probably be considered cruel and inhumane. Back then no
>one thought anything of it. How times have changed. This was in
>Michigan, so you know we got snow. When we moved I was on a school bus
>route. I thought I was squattin' in tall cotten then.
All depends on where you are- in my town, I still see the grade-school
kids walking home on my way out to work every day, no matter how cold
it is.
In article <[email protected]>,
Prometheus <[email protected]> wrote:
<...snipped...>
>> Yeah, right. I've heard probably all of those. Way back until we
>>moved just before I got in the 7th grade. We lived on a dead-end
>>street, insid of town limits. Which made me, and the neighbor kids,
>>ineligible to get bus rides. So we all had a nice half mile one-way
>>walk to school, starting in fhe first grade (no kindergarten back then)
>>until we moved. Rain, sun, snow, whatever, we walked both ways.
>>Nowadays that'd probably be considered cruel and inhumane. Back then no
>>one thought anything of it. How times have changed. This was in
>>Michigan, so you know we got snow. When we moved I was on a school bus
>>route. I thought I was squattin' in tall cotten then.
>
>All depends on where you are- in my town, I still see the grade-school
>kids walking home on my way out to work every day, no matter how cold
>it is.
>
Ah, the good old days... I grew up in a small town in Pa that had a single
jr high for the entire town & much of the surrounding area. It was 9
blocks, a little under a mile, from my house, & lots of kids I knew had
to walk several blocks further. The Junior high had no cafeteria,
so the lunch break was 1 1/2 hours, plenty of time for a 12 year old to
get into trouble. We had the option at lunch time of walking home &
back, walking to the High School about 6 blocks away to use the
cafeteria there, or eating at one of several diners or sub shops within
a few blocks of the school. One plus, the city transit bus was 15 cents
for a minor, but man, that was a lot of money in those days. For
35 cents I could go to a Saturday matinee at one of the towns 2
movie theaters, and see a newsreel, cartoon, serial, and main feature,
sometimes a double feature! I sometimes think about how my brother
and friends and I, at the age of 8 or 9, used to walk or bicycle
all over that area, probably within a range of 2 or 3 miles in any
direction from our neighborhood. Today (living in Baltimore) I wouldn't
let my 10 year old go 5 blocks from our house without an adult.
--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (Mencken)
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf.lonestar.org
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> All depends on where you are- in my town, I still see the grade-school
> kids walking home on my way out to work every day, no matter how cold
> it is.
Middle and High school has to be 1 mile or more to take the bus. I think it
is half that for grade school. I see a lot of parents driving their kids
short distances even in mild weather. Or waiting in the car until the bus
comes. And on some routs, the bus stops at every damned house instead of
making the kid group together to speed things up.
Mon, Feb 5, 2007, 3:32am (EST+5) [email protected] (Edwin=A0Pawlowski)
"Prometheus" doth sayeth:
<snip> see a lot of parents driving their kids short distances even in
mild weather. Or waiting in the car until the bus comes. <snip>
Actually I think that's not a bad idea, what with all the whack
jobs out ther.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 03:32:32 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> All depends on where you are- in my town, I still see the grade-school
>> kids walking home on my way out to work every day, no matter how cold
>> it is.
>
>Middle and High school has to be 1 mile or more to take the bus. I think it
>is half that for grade school. I see a lot of parents driving their kids
>short distances even in mild weather. Or waiting in the car until the bus
>comes. And on some routs, the bus stops at every damned house instead of
>making the kid group together to speed things up.
Lucky you that you live in an area where kids are still allowed to go
to the local school.
Here (a subdivision) the bus stops at each interesection. Every
morning I see at least two parents who live in the middle of the block
sitting their in their cars waiting for the bus to cart Junior off.
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:32:00 -0500, Leuf <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:55:07 GMT, "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I hear ya! I've got a fire built, and a radiant kero going. The combo
>>couldn't keep the shop much above 50 deg. so I broke out the kero torpedo
>>which kicks on occasionally to maintain 60 deg so I can finish a glue up.
>
>TB II is good to 55
>TB III is good to 45
>
>Round about december I switch to TB III, basement shop stays about 50.
T88 epoxy is good to 35. GE silicone (the original nonpaintable kind)
is good down into the negative numbers, but it's not all that great an
adhesive.
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:44:23 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:40:16 -0600, "sal" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You Yanks have no real sense of cold ,
>
>
> I'd say many of us have more sense than to live in an area where it gets
>to -40C (or -40F for that matter, they are the same) on a regular basis.
>;-)
>
> Seems Wisconsin, Michigan, North Dakota tend to get to those temps pretty
>regularly during the winter.
Yep. It's not a matter of sense, though- it's a matter of what you're
comfortable at. To my eternal dismay, the weather inists on getting
hotter than 80 degrees (F) most summers. If I had my way, we'd have
the -40 in the winter as a tradeoff for the temp never going above 65
in the summer.
If it makes any of you guys feel any better about your chilly 50*
shops, I spent yesterday morning outside changing my wife's
transmission gasket when it was -5. (At least, that is, until the car
rolled off the jack and gave me a good smashing- there's a good
"injury by dumbass" for you.) Evidently, it was so cold that the
gasket froze and cracked. But it really was not so hard on me,
because I'm used to the weather.
THE FROZEN LOGGER
A forty year old waitress to me these words did say:
As I sat down one evening within a small cafe,
"I see that you are a logger, and not just a common bum,
'Cause nobody but a logger stirs his coffee with is thumb.
If you'd pour whiskey on it he could eat a bale of hay
He never shaved his whiskers from off of his horny hide;
My lover was a logger, there's none like him today;
He'd just drive them in with a hammer and bite them off inside.
My lover came to see me upon one freezing day;
He held me in his fond embrace which broke three vertebrae.
He kissed me when we parted, so hard that he broke my jaw;
I saw my lover leaving, sauntering through the snow,
I could not speak to tell him he'd forgot his mackinaw.
Going gaily homeward at forty-eight below.
The weather it tried to freeze him, it tried its level best;
At a hundred degrees below zero, he buttoned up his vest.
They made him into axeblades, to chop the Douglas fir.
It froze clean through to China, it froze to the stars above;
At a thousand degrees below zero, it froze my logger love.
They tried in vain to thaw him, and would you believe me, sir
And so I lost my lover, and to this cafe I come,
And here I wait till someone stirs his coffee with his thumb."
THE FROZEN LOGGERA forty year old waitress to me these words did say:As
I sat down one evening within a small cafe,"I see that you are a logger,
and not just a common bum,'Cause nobody but a logger stirs his coffee
with is thumb.If you'd pour whiskey on it he could eat a bale of hayHe
never shaved his whiskers from off of his horny hide;My lover was a
logger, there's none like him today;He'd just drive them in with a
hammer and bite them off inside.My lover came to see me upon one
freezing day;He held me in his fond embrace which broke three
vertebrae.He kissed me when we parted, so hard that he broke my jaw;I
saw my lover leaving, sauntering through the snow,I could not speak to
tell him he'd forgot his mackinaw.Going gaily homeward at forty
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:55:07 GMT, "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I hear ya! I've got a fire built, and a radiant kero going.
I've had to use both the block heater and the propane preheater before
flying this weekend. Love that Toyota 120v outlet in the pickup bed!
Picture blow drying your car with dust collection hose and hot air
before you can leave the driveway. While you're at it, picture your
car sliding across an icy driveway, with the brakes totally locked,
just because the engine is idling. <G>
We've been on a hangar waiting list for 2 1/2 years.
At least there's no snow banks to grab the wingtips...
[email protected] (J T) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
*trim*
>
> When I was a kid we used to go on slick country roads and play
> alot. Packed snow on dirt roade, with cars. Funny thing. We learned
> a car with locked brakes won't stop - we never went terribly fast -
> but if you tapped the brakes as fast a you could, you could usually
> stop a sliding car. Don't push hard tho, tap just hard enough to put
> pressure, release, repeat. We used to pull sleds behine the car, and
> did a LOT of sledding.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
> acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
> - Johann Von Schiller
>
It's worth the time and effort to go out in bad weather and "play."
Some of the stuff I learned saved me from getting into worse situations
than I was already in. It may have even prevented an accident or two.
There's nothing like being on the interstate and knowing you're still on
the road but not knowing WHERE on the road you are... and some nuts have
the gall to go 30 and 40 mph?
Puckdropper
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To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
Sun, Feb 4, 2007, 9:20am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
doth sayeth:
<snip> There's nothing like being on the interstate and knowing you're
still on the road but not knowing WHERE on the road you are... and some
nuts have the gall to go 30 and 40 mph?
Many years back, coming back from deer hunting. Road was packed
snot, slick, but no problem if you kept it to about 30 MPH or so.
Stopped along side the road to halp push a car out of the ditch. Maybe
a dozen cas stopped. Plenty of room to get thru. Road was straight
and level for a couple of miles behind us, and level a good half mile in
front. Cars coming would just slow downto about 15 MPH, no prob. One
car came down the hill, maybe 40 MPH. Kept coming. Then maybe 300
yards or more put on the brakes to slow up to go thru the cars. Brakes
locked, of course. Let off the brakes? No way. And, of course, with
the brakes locked, no matter which way you turn the wheel, the car is
not going to go any way but straight. So the driver proceeded to slowly
lose speed all that way, and eventually slammed right into one of the
cars parked off the pavement at the great speed of about 5 MPH, brakes
still locked. What a maroon.
You want nuts in the winter snows. Visit northern Virginia. Get a
skim of sow coming down and Ft lee would close down. Get a skim of snow
blowing across the highways, not of it sticking at all, and the local
drivers, the ones that were "daring" enough to get out in the snow storm
were doing about 15 MPH, with chains on. Hell, I never have even owned
a set of snow tires, let alone chains.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:48:09 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>Sun, Feb 4, 2007, 9:20am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
>doth sayeth:
><snip> There's nothing like being on the interstate and knowing you're
>still on the road but not knowing WHERE on the road you are... and some
>nuts have the gall to go 30 and 40 mph?
>
> Many years back, coming back from deer hunting. Road was packed
>snot, slick, but no problem if you kept it to about 30 MPH or so.
>Stopped along side the road to halp push a car out of the ditch. Maybe
>a dozen cas stopped. Plenty of room to get thru. Road was straight
>and level for a couple of miles behind us, and level a good half mile in
>front. Cars coming would just slow downto about 15 MPH, no prob. One
>car came down the hill, maybe 40 MPH. Kept coming. Then maybe 300
>yards or more put on the brakes to slow up to go thru the cars. Brakes
>locked, of course. Let off the brakes? No way. And, of course, with
>the brakes locked, no matter which way you turn the wheel, the car is
>not going to go any way but straight. So the driver proceeded to slowly
>lose speed all that way, and eventually slammed right into one of the
>cars parked off the pavement at the great speed of about 5 MPH, brakes
>still locked. What a maroon.
>
> You want nuts in the winter snows. Visit northern Virginia. Get a
>skim of sow coming down and Ft lee would close down. Get a skim of snow
>blowing across the highways, not of it sticking at all, and the local
>drivers, the ones that were "daring" enough to get out in the snow storm
>were doing about 15 MPH, with chains on. Hell, I never have even owned
>a set of snow tires, let alone chains.
Moved to Atlanta from Ohio. Was a major ice storm one day. GF calls
from work, can't get home. Drove around block to check road
condition. Put chains on (which had never been removed from the trunk
after moving south) mainly so that had brakes that worked (remember,
Atlanta--no plows, no salt trucks, no sand, just bare glare ice until
it gets enough old fashioned _dirt_ on it to have traction or decides
to melt). Stopped at four-way stop sign at top of hill. Noted
"bridge out" sign pointing to bridge at bottom of hill. Watched six
cars slide through stop sign, down hill, and land in creek. Noted all
drivers out and shouting at each other, decided didn't need my help,
went on and picked up GF.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Many years back, coming back from deer hunting. Road was packed
>snot, slick, but no problem if you kept it to about 30 MPH or so.
>Stopped along side the road to halp push a car out of the ditch. Maybe
>a dozen cas stopped. Plenty of room to get thru. Road was straight
>and level for a couple of miles behind us, and level a good half mile in
>front. Cars coming would just slow downto about 15 MPH, no prob. One
>car came down the hill, maybe 40 MPH. Kept coming. Then maybe 300
>yards or more put on the brakes to slow up to go thru the cars. Brakes
>locked, of course. Let off the brakes? No way. And, of course, with
>the brakes locked, no matter which way you turn the wheel, the car is
>not going to go any way but straight. So the driver proceeded to slowly
>lose speed all that way, and eventually slammed right into one of the
>cars parked off the pavement at the great speed of about 5 MPH, brakes
>still locked. What a maroon.
Sounds like it coulda been my ex-wife. She called me at work early one January
morning... she had an accident. Smashed in the right rear door of her car on
the _rear_bumper_ of the guy ahead of her. Think about that one for a moment.
She's sliding sideways... and still going fast enough to catch up with, and
collide with, the guy ahead.
"Ummm... just how fast were you going?"
"Not very fast, only about 30."
THIRTY??? I drove that same stretch only twenty minutes before she did, and it
was so slick that I deemed it unsafe above FIVE. Wet black ice. And she's
driving thirty.
Two years later, she bashed in the right rear corner of her car on a highway
guardrail... in the median.
SWMBO 2.0 has been driving for almost thirty years, with zero accidents and
zero tickets.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Sat, Feb 3, 2007, 11:51pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(B=A0A=A0R=A0R=A0Y) doth sayeth:
<snip> picture your car sliding across an icy driveway, with the brakes
totally locked, just because the engine is idling. <G> <snip>
When I was a kid we used to go on slick country roads and play
alot. Packed snow on dirt roade, with cars. Funny thing. We learned a
car with locked brakes won't stop - we never went terribly fast - but if
you tapped the brakes as fast a you could, you could usually stop a
sliding car. Don't push hard tho, tap just hard enough to put pressure,
release, repeat. We used to pull sleds behine the car, and did a LOT of
sledding.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 03:59:03 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>
> When I was a kid we used to go on slick country roads and play
>alot. Packed snow on dirt roade, with cars. Funny thing. We learned a
>car with locked brakes won't stop - we never went terribly fast - but if
>you tapped the brakes as fast a you could, you could usually stop a
>sliding car.
With a spinning prop, the plane will actually start to move, and in
some cases pick up decent speed, even though the brakes were never
released. <G>
Sun, Feb 4, 2007, 12:17pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(B=A0A=A0R=A0R=A0Y) doth sayeth:
With a spinning prop, the plane will actually start to move, and in some
cases pick up decent speed, even though the brakes were never released.
<G>
On days like that I'd leave the plane parked. If it's gonna be
like that before you even take off, what's it gonna be like trying to
stop when you land? Anyway, ever since I moulted I gave up flying.
JOAT
Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will
acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.
- Johann Von Schiller
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
> On days like that I'd leave the plane parked. If it's gonna be
>like that before you even take off, what's it gonna be like trying to
>stop when you land?
I just left the plane parked today. Got to it ~ 9AM to find a 17
degree temp, 15-20 knot winds, and 2 inches of crusted ice on it. We
were going to shoot some practice instrument approaches to Providence
and New Bedford, then head out to Provincetown for scallops at Clem &
Ursies.
I decided it was just too cold to stand out there and defrost it. <G>
FWIW, the really slippery ice is usually only in the parking areas
where there's freeze and refreeze cycles. The airport maintainers do
a nice job on the runways and taxiways. I'm not icing equipped, so I
don't fly while it's accumulating. It's just a funny surprise when
the fan starts up and you start to slide along.
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:55:07 GMT, "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I hear ya! I've got a fire built, and a radiant kero going. The combo
>couldn't keep the shop much above 50 deg. so I broke out the kero torpedo
>which kicks on occasionally to maintain 60 deg so I can finish a glue up.
TB II is good to 55
TB III is good to 45
Round about december I switch to TB III, basement shop stays about 50.
-Leuf
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:53:04 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>Stoutman wrote:
>> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long in
>> the cold woodshop.
>>
>> Need a heater!
>>
>When I was a kid, I had to walk 5 miles to school and home in the snow!
>Uphill both ways. In a light jacket. Wearing shorts. Carrying books.
>With holes in my socks. Pulling my two brothers on a sled. Without
>runners. One time my tongue stuck to my teeth.
My dad told me all that. Plus the fact that he was chased by bears
too.
I hear ya! I've got a fire built, and a radiant kero going. The combo
couldn't keep the shop much above 50 deg. so I broke out the kero torpedo
which kicks on occasionally to maintain 60 deg so I can finish a glue up.
Geez, it's gonna cost $10 to heat the place today and today is supposed to
be the "warmest" day for the next few. --dave
"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
> in the cold woodshop.
>
> Need a heater!
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
>
(snip) Tip from a Canuckistani: after the beer thaws out, turn the bottle
end-
> over-end a few times...gently.
> Then let sit for a couple of minutes and open it.
I've implemented your suggestion few times now with several different test
samples. I've concluded the procedure is a success! Thanks! --dave
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Feb 4, 2:06 pm, "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hopefully the beer I left out there thaws out soon.....--dave
>
> Tip from a Canuckistani: after the beer thaws out, turn the bottle end-
> over-end a few times...gently.
> Then let sit for a couple of minutes and open it.
> It was explained to me once..something about specific gravity. It made
> sense and indeed it improves the taste after a freeze. I know a little
> something about frozen beer; I used to be an avid ice-fisherman
> (Sometimes I'd catch up to 30 pounds of ice!) but I stopped when
> arthritis set in and it became too difficult to chop a big enough hole
> in the ice for my boat to fit in.
> I still miss the sound of the sinker hitting the ice after a nice long
> cast....
>
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
>> Went out to do some woodworking on my bed project. I didn't last to long
> in
>> the cold woodshop.
>>
>> Need a heater!
>
> Ditto ... although it's probably warm here by comparison (low 50's in the
> sun). I did some "CAD woodworking" this morning (better than nothing) then
> went out twice, but the residual cold in the shop from the 30's last night
> just made it too uncomfortable to stay long.
>
> Managed to put down a few layout marks before I quit and came back in to
> warm myself up with an eternal wRec argument, or two ... can't wait for
> those productive high 90's again! ;)
LOL... I have been "going to work" out in the shop all week. Had good
intentions of doing it today and yet I sit here typing with cold hands.