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"Stephanie and Tim"

17/08/2003 3:12 PM

OT: Wallboard Help?

Hi, all...

I'm repainting a bedroom, and after removing a couple layers of wallpaper,
found that the first layer of wallpaper was put up without a coat of paint
or primer. When I tried to remove it, it pulled up some of the backing
paper. So now I've got some seriously crappy looking wallboard. I'm having
problems getting spackling paste to stick, too.

Some questions:

1. The patch stuff I'm using is "spackling paste", but at the hardware
store, they sell another product called "joint compound". What's the
difference between these two products? Am I using the wrong one?

2. I laid down a coat of primer, hoping this would firm up the layer of
paper enough that I could sand it. Was this a dumb idea or a good one?

3. Should I just rip out the old sheetrock and start over, or is there hope
for a smooth wall with a reasonable amount of effort?

Thanks, guys!

-Tim




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YC

"Young Carpenter"

in reply to "Stephanie and Tim" on 17/08/2003 3:12 PM

17/08/2003 11:42 PM


"Bubba" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:QQS%[email protected]...
>
> For what it's worth, I've never known a building contractor to prime a
wall
> in a new house before hanging wallpaper.
>
>
>
Neither have I.
It would defeat the purpose of putting up wall paper with a sticky backing.
--
Young Carpenter

"Save a Tree, Build Furniture"




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"Leon"

in reply to "Stephanie and Tim" on 17/08/2003 3:12 PM

17/08/2003 11:53 PM

2 years ago I removed the wall paper from my master bathroom and the paper
on the sheetrock came off, in spots. Some spots the size of my fist.
I used dry wall joint compound thinned down with water to the consistency of
Mayonnaise and then applied with a texturing brush. I can hardly tell the
good from the bad spots.



"Stephanie and Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:lgQ%[email protected]...
> Hi, all...
>
> I'm repainting a bedroom, and after removing a couple layers of wallpaper,
> found that the first layer of wallpaper was put up without a coat of paint
> or primer. When I tried to remove it, it pulled up some of the backing
> paper. So now I've got some seriously crappy looking wallboard. I'm
having
> problems getting spackling paste to stick, too.
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. The patch stuff I'm using is "spackling paste", but at the hardware
> store, they sell another product called "joint compound". What's the
> difference between these two products? Am I using the wrong one?
>
> 2. I laid down a coat of primer, hoping this would firm up the layer of
> paper enough that I could sand it. Was this a dumb idea or a good one?
>
> 3. Should I just rip out the old sheetrock and start over, or is there
hope
> for a smooth wall with a reasonable amount of effort?
>
> Thanks, guys!
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
>

MZ

Mark

in reply to "Stephanie and Tim" on 17/08/2003 3:12 PM

17/08/2003 3:19 PM

In article <lgQ%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Hi, all...
>
> I'm repainting a bedroom, and after removing a couple layers of wallpaper,
> found that the first layer of wallpaper was put up without a coat of paint
> or primer. When I tried to remove it, it pulled up some of the backing
> paper. So now I've got some seriously crappy looking wallboard. I'm having
> problems getting spackling paste to stick, too.
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. The patch stuff I'm using is "spackling paste", but at the hardware
> store, they sell another product called "joint compound". What's the
> difference between these two products? Am I using the wrong one?
>
> 2. I laid down a coat of primer, hoping this would firm up the layer of
> paper enough that I could sand it. Was this a dumb idea or a good one?
>
> 3. Should I just rip out the old sheetrock and start over, or is there hope
> for a smooth wall with a reasonable amount of effort?
>
> Thanks, guys!
>
> -Tim
>
Joint compound is a little heavier bodied, so it will tend
to go on a bit thicker. Either one _should_ stick to the
wall OK, though. If they won't you may have to resort to
re-skinning the wall by putting the thinnest rock you can
find (1/4" may be available) over the existing, tape and
mud.
--
Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.

Bb

"Bubba"

in reply to "Stephanie and Tim" on 17/08/2003 3:12 PM

17/08/2003 9:54 PM

Use joint compound. Sheetrockers and wallpaper hangers also call it "mud".
Float the banged up surface with a large, flat trowel, then sand it smooth
when it has dried overnight.

Almost any wallpapering job requires joint compound touch-up for dings and
dents. These things really show through a new coat.
To remove the old wallpaper, just use a large natural sponge and lots of hot
water. Keep mopping the wallpaper with the wet sponge, and eventually - -
it takes awhile - - the glue will soften and then you can pull it off.
Give it a mopping - - go have a beer - - go back and give it another
mopping, then another beer. Eventually either the stuff will start pulling
off easily or you won't give a damn.

For what it's worth, I've never known a building contractor to prime a wall
in a new house before hanging wallpaper.


"Stephanie and Tim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:lgQ%[email protected]...
> Hi, all...
>
> I'm repainting a bedroom, and after removing a couple layers of wallpaper,
> found that the first layer of wallpaper was put up without a coat of paint
> or primer. When I tried to remove it, it pulled up some of the backing
> paper. So now I've got some seriously crappy looking wallboard. I'm
having
> problems getting spackling paste to stick, too.
>
> Some questions:
>
> 1. The patch stuff I'm using is "spackling paste", but at the hardware
> store, they sell another product called "joint compound". What's the
> difference between these two products? Am I using the wrong one?
>
> 2. I laid down a coat of primer, hoping this would firm up the layer of
> paper enough that I could sand it. Was this a dumb idea or a good one?
>
> 3. Should I just rip out the old sheetrock and start over, or is there
hope
> for a smooth wall with a reasonable amount of effort?
>
> Thanks, guys!
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
>

Gj

Grandpa

in reply to "Stephanie and Tim" on 17/08/2003 3:12 PM

17/08/2003 8:35 PM

Sounds like a great place to hang a picture to cover the mess up.

Mark wrote:

> In article <lgQ%[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>>Hi, all...
>>
>>I'm repainting a bedroom, and after removing a couple layers of wallpaper,
>>found that the first layer of wallpaper was put up without a coat of paint
>>or primer. When I tried to remove it, it pulled up some of the backing
>>paper. So now I've got some seriously crappy looking wallboard. I'm having
>>problems getting spackling paste to stick, too.
>>
>>Some questions:
>>
>>1. The patch stuff I'm using is "spackling paste", but at the hardware
>>store, they sell another product called "joint compound". What's the
>>difference between these two products? Am I using the wrong one?
>>
>>2. I laid down a coat of primer, hoping this would firm up the layer of
>>paper enough that I could sand it. Was this a dumb idea or a good one?
>>
>>3. Should I just rip out the old sheetrock and start over, or is there hope
>>for a smooth wall with a reasonable amount of effort?
>>
>>Thanks, guys!
>>
>>-Tim
>>
>
> Joint compound is a little heavier bodied, so it will tend
> to go on a bit thicker. Either one _should_ stick to the
> wall OK, though. If they won't you may have to resort to
> re-skinning the wall by putting the thinnest rock you can
> find (1/4" may be available) over the existing, tape and
> mud.


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