<[email protected]> wrote:
> is poplar a strong enough wood to support a large granite countertop?
> there would be 3 corbels ...each 8x145/32x3
>
Yes, it is. The question you should be asking is how to properly assemble
the support.
We don't know anything about the counter/countertop, other than the granite top is large. The way Denise asked the question, seems only the corbels are supporting the granite.
Is one long edge, of the countertop, butted against a wall and only the corbels supporting the whole top?
Is the countertop supported in its middle, by a "half-wall", with corbels under each extending/overhanging lip/outer edge? This configuration may/would imply 3 corbels on each side of the wall.
Is one long edge, of the countertop, supported by a half-wall, with corbels supporting the remainer of the width of the granite?
Re: A half wall, if applicable, how wide is the wall?
Some other configuration?
Sonny
On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 9:18:58 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Assuming you hadn't pissed her off before, you usually had one more chance
> to provide a detailed estimate, although I have seen project managers be
> replaced even after one non-nonchalant utterance of "Oh, not too much".
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/14121811532/in/photostream
Another option for the corbels, if she was thinking solid one-piece of wood, is to make the corbels using a ply technique. The outer plies with the grain running vertical and the inner ply with the grain running lateral.
Three ply corbel makeup: https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/14811481150/in/photostream
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/14994891391/in/photostream
Sonny
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 7:35:15 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> is poplar a strong enough wood to support a large granite countertop? there would be 3 corbels ...each 8x145/32x3
I don't understand, comprehend, those corbel measurements. 145/32 = 4.53. With that, your figures are 8X4.5X3. That size corbel won't support much at all, no matter what wood it's made of.
Try this for some measuring assistance.
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/iron-decor/corbel-questions.pdf
Sonny
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 8:29:16 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> > > is poplar a strong enough wood to support a large granite countertop?
>
> 8"across top 14 5/32 down the side 3" thick
An average countertop is usually about 25" deep. I wouldn't trust 10, of that size corbel, to support a countertop of 6' length or more.
What's the size and thickness of the countertop?
Sonny
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 9:24:57 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 7:35:15 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> > is poplar a strong enough wood to support a large granite countertop? there would be 3 corbels ...each 8x145/32x3
>
> I don't understand, comprehend, those corbel measurements. 145/32 = 4.53. With that, your figures are 8X4.5X3. That size corbel won't support much at all, no matter what wood it's made of.
>
> Try this for some measuring assistance.
> http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/iron-decor/corbel-questions.pdf
>
> Sonny
8"across top 14 5/32 down the side 3" thick
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 22:39:24 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 6/13/2016 8:35 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> is poplar a strong enough wood to support a large granite countertop? there would be 3 corbels ...each 8x145/32x3
>>
>That all depends on the design, and which way the grain is oriented. But
>yes, vertically it will support it, horizontally, it will depend on the
>thickness, frequency of support.
The difference being compression vs. shear strength. Wood is very
good in compression but quite variable in shear. Grain direction
matters a lot.
>
>Engineering is everything in supporting mass.
On 6/14/2016 2:52 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/14/2016 11:08 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Swingman wrote:
>>>
>>> Wooden corbels are most often made of poplar these days, so you should
>>> be fine ... I use poplar to make my own corbels for granite counter tops
>>> all the time:
>>>
>>> https://photos.google.com/search/corbel/photo/AF1QipP2GGL5ocyNJ1jq7XGLtRaQx_xAAPLABwUQHDCa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Your link requires a login Karl.
>>
>
>
> Yup something is wrong there.
Thanks, Google is being evil...
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On 6/13/2016 7:35 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> is poplar a strong enough wood to support a large granite countertop? there would be 3 corbels ...each 8x145/32x3
Some information is missing for a definitive answer ... is this for an
overhang?
If so, see my other post.
If not, post the dimensions of the granite to be TOTALLY supported by
the corbels.
IOW, in a situation like this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/111355467778981859077/EWoodShopEuropeanStyleKitchen201102?noredirect=1#5679345552437722834
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On 6/13/2016 8:35 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> is poplar a strong enough wood to support a large granite countertop? there would be 3 corbels ...each 8x145/32x3
>
That all depends on the design, and which way the grain is oriented. But
yes, vertically it will support it, horizontally, it will depend on the
thickness, frequency of support.
Engineering is everything in supporting mass.
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On 6/13/2016 8:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 8"across top 14 5/32 down the side 3" thick
Corbels are most often used to support the cantilevered (overhang)
portion of counter tops.
IMPORTANT: The cantilevered/overhang portion of a counter top is
generally 1/3rd of the total depth of the material ... IOW 24" of
granite supported by a cabinet or island, with a 12" cantilevered
overhang, and depending upon the thickness of the material, is
acceptable for most counter top material.
Granite in particular, and depending upon the thickness and type, can
generally have a overhang (cantilevered part) of 12" without any
support, on average.
So, as long as you are within the 2/3rd's supported - 1/3rd overhang
rule, most any corbel will be basically decorative, and not structural.
So yes, poplar should do just fine in that situation.
Wooden corbels are most often made of poplar these days, so you should
be fine ... I use poplar to make my own corbels for granite counter tops
all the time:
https://photos.google.com/search/corbel/photo/AF1QipP2GGL5ocyNJ1jq7XGLtRaQx_xAAPLABwUQHDCa
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On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 8:23:18 AM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
> We don't know anything about the counter/countertop, other than the granite top is large.
re: the less-than-specific description of a "large" counter top.
I used to work for a (former) Fortune 500 company and attend a lot meetings
with the head of our Global IT Department. If she asked you what something
would cost or how long it would take and you answered "Oh, it won't cost much"
or "That is going to take a long time", the rest of us would cringe, sit back
and watch the show.
"I can not plan a budget around "It won't cost much". I can not assign
resources based on an estimate of "a long time". I need actual numbers.
Either refine your answers at this time or tell me when I can expect an
answer that I can actually use."
Assuming you hadn't pissed her off before, you usually had one more chance
to provide a detailed estimate, although I have seen project managers be
replaced even after one non-nonchalant utterance of "Oh, not too much".
On 6/14/2016 11:08 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>>
>> Wooden corbels are most often made of poplar these days, so you should
>> be fine ... I use poplar to make my own corbels for granite counter tops
>> all the time:
>>
>> https://photos.google.com/search/corbel/photo/AF1QipP2GGL5ocyNJ1jq7XGLtRaQx_xAAPLABwUQHDCa
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Your link requires a login Karl.
>
Yup something is wrong there.
Swingman wrote:
>
> Wooden corbels are most often made of poplar these days, so you should
> be fine ... I use poplar to make my own corbels for granite counter tops
> all the time:
>
> https://photos.google.com/search/corbel/photo/AF1QipP2GGL5ocyNJ1jq7XGLtRaQx_xAAPLABwUQHDCa
>
>
Your link requires a login Karl.
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