The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:02:33 PM UTC-4, Artemus wrote:
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > On 08/24/2016 2:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a
> >> continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a
> >> lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
> >
> > Well, if you're measuring the right contacts, yes... :)
> >
> > Are both pairs of contacts in use?
> >
> >> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
> >
> > Presuming it's a 120V vac and not 240V, then there's only real reason to switch the hot leg;
> > excepting, of course, if it doesn't have a polarized plug, either wire could be the hot one...so,
> > they switch 'em both would be my best guess w/o further details.
> >
> >
>
> My shop vac is 120V and it's switch died about 10 yrs ago. I replaced it
> with a standard wall switch and it's still going strong.
>
> Art
Isn't it a pain to carry the wall around with you when you need to use the
shop vac?
On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 2:37:35 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
>
> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
They could have, but they may have been trying to make it "safe," While you might have to modify the mounting, you can replace the switch with any switch that will carry the load.
On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:11:11 AM UTC-4, Larry Kraus wrote:
> On 8/24/2016 3:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
> >
> > Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
> >
>
>
> Put the hot wires on the working side of the switch.
> Put the neutral wires together with a wire nut.
> Clean up the shop.
Eliminate the switch and use a remote.
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/images/g/yR4AAOSwxN5WVrZL/s-l225.jpg
I have a mini shop vac in the cabinet under my miter saw. The remote is
velcro'd to the saw. The hose comes though the side of the cabinet and
attaches to the saw's dust port. I also have an extra hose that I use to
extend the shop vac hose for quick cleanup of the work bench, drill
press, etc. The extension hose also reaches the dust port on my band saw.
I got the vac for $10 on Craigslist. It sure does help to keep shop
cleaner.
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 07:35:47 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:11:11 AM UTC-4, Larry Kraus wrote:
>> On 8/24/2016 3:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> > The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
>> >
>> > Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Put the hot wires on the working side of the switch.
>> Put the neutral wires together with a wire nut.
>> Clean up the shop.
>
>Eliminate the switch and use a remote.
>
>http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/images/g/yR4AAOSwxN5WVrZL/s-l225.jpg
>
>I have a mini shop vac in the cabinet under my miter saw. The remote is
>velcro'd to the saw. The hose comes though the side of the cabinet and
>attaches to the saw's dust port. I also have an extra hose that I use to
>extend the shop vac hose for quick cleanup of the work bench, drill
>press, etc. The extension hose also reaches the dust port on my band saw.
>
>I got the vac for $10 on Craigslist. It sure does help to keep shop
>cleaner.
I glued a magnet to a remote for my DC and keep it stuck to the side
of my Unisaur table.
http://www.ptreeusa.com/dustacces.htm
On 8/24/2016 3:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
>
> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
Put the hot wires on the working side of the switch.
Put the neutral wires together with a wire nut.
Clean up the shop.
On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 1:56:39 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On 08/28/2016 12:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:02:33 PM UTC-4, Artemus wrote:
> >> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >>> On 08/24/2016 2:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a
> >>>> continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a
> >>>> lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
> >>>
> >>> Well, if you're measuring the right contacts, yes... :)
> >>>
> >>> Are both pairs of contacts in use?
> >>>
> >>>> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
> >>>
> >>> Presuming it's a 120V vac and not 240V, then there's only real reason to switch the hot leg;
> >>> excepting, of course, if it doesn't have a polarized plug, either wire could be the hot one...so,
> >>> they switch 'em both would be my best guess w/o further details.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> My shop vac is 120V and it's switch died about 10 yrs ago. I replaced it
> >> with a standard wall switch and it's still going strong.
> >>
> >> Art
> >
> > Isn't it a pain to carry the wall around with you when you need to use the
> > shop vac?
> >
> If you decide to stop struggling with moving the wall with the switch to
> where you are using the vacuum, you may be interested in this suggestion.
>
> The switch is for my Shop Vac QPS10. I found the manual by searching for
> Shop Vac schematics and manual
>
> Mouser Electronics - Electronic Components Distributor
> Mouser #: 540-LRA32H2FBBNN
> Mfr. #: LRA32H2FBBNN
> Desc.: Rocker Switches & Paddle Switches DPST BLK 10A QC TERM
> RoHS: RoHS Compliant
>
> It cost me about $10 to get two switches (One to install and a spare)
> About a $1 a piece for the switch and $8 shipping and handling.
>
> It snaps into the vacuum, but when I got it in, I realized I had it
> backwards, from the markings on the sweeper.
>
> So; on my vacuum if it is off, you do the logical and push OFF to turn
> it on, It it is off you push On to turn it off. I keep explaining to my
> grandson, why would you push on when it is obvious the vacuum is off.
A reversed switch on a wet-dry vac might not be anything more than confusing,
but I sure wouldn't leave it that way on a router or any other tool that could hurt
your grandson.
Why didn't you switch it back once you realized it was backward? Just curious...
On 08/24/2016 2:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a
> continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a
> lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
Well, if you're measuring the right contacts, yes... :)
Are both pairs of contacts in use?
> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
Presuming it's a 120V vac and not 240V, then there's only real reason to
switch the hot leg; excepting, of course, if it doesn't have a polarized
plug, either wire could be the hot one...so, they switch 'em both would
be my best guess w/o further details.
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"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On 08/24/2016 2:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a
>> continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a
>> lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
>
> Well, if you're measuring the right contacts, yes... :)
>
> Are both pairs of contacts in use?
>
>> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
>
> Presuming it's a 120V vac and not 240V, then there's only real reason to switch the hot leg;
> excepting, of course, if it doesn't have a polarized plug, either wire could be the hot one...so,
> they switch 'em both would be my best guess w/o further details.
>
>
My shop vac is 120V and it's switch died about 10 yrs ago. I replaced it
with a standard wall switch and it's still going strong.
Art
On 08/26/2016 3:55 PM, Artemus wrote:
...
> My shop vac is 120V and it's switch died about 10 yrs ago. I replaced it
> with a standard wall switch and it's still going strong.
Sure, interrupting either leg is functional; just not as safe as
both...as noted, unless it's a polarized plug, it's 50-50 as to which
will be the "hot" side any given time...
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"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On 08/26/2016 3:55 PM, Artemus wrote:
> ...
>
>> My shop vac is 120V and it's switch died about 10 yrs ago. I replaced it
>> with a standard wall switch and it's still going strong.
>
> Sure, interrupting either leg is functional; just not as safe as both...as noted, unless it's a
> polarized plug, it's 50-50 as to which will be the "hot" side any given time...
>
My post was an example of a real world fix which could actually help the OP.
Not the drivel of another Safety Nazi.
The original switch was SPST and I replaced it with an SPST using the
original wiring. The plug is a 3 prong one.
Art
On 08/27/2016 10:45 PM, Artemus wrote:
...
> My post was an example of a real world fix which could actually help the OP.
...
The posting to which you responded was answering the OP's original
question of "why use a 2-pole instead of single-pole switch"?
Yes, granted, it only takes breaking one connection to make the switch
work; one _presumes_ there was a reason the original manufacturer of the
vac the OP has used the 2P; the likely reason for that is it uses a
nonpolarized plug.
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On 08/27/2016 10:58 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/27/2016 11:01 PM, dpb wrote:
>
>>
>> The posting to which you responded was answering the OP's original
>> question of "why use a 2-pole instead of single-pole switch"?
>>
>> Yes, granted, it only takes breaking one connection to make the switch
>> work; one _presumes_ there was a reason the original manufacturer of the
>> vac the OP has used the 2P; the likely reason for that is it uses a
>> nonpolarized plug.
>>
>
> Could it be for the 220V versions also?
Possibly, OP didn't ever provide the additional info...
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On 08/28/2016 12:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:02:33 PM UTC-4, Artemus wrote:
>> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>> On 08/24/2016 2:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a
>>>> continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a
>>>> lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
>>>
>>> Well, if you're measuring the right contacts, yes... :)
>>>
>>> Are both pairs of contacts in use?
>>>
>>>> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
>>>
>>> Presuming it's a 120V vac and not 240V, then there's only real reason to switch the hot leg;
>>> excepting, of course, if it doesn't have a polarized plug, either wire could be the hot one...so,
>>> they switch 'em both would be my best guess w/o further details.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> My shop vac is 120V and it's switch died about 10 yrs ago. I replaced it
>> with a standard wall switch and it's still going strong.
>>
>> Art
>
> Isn't it a pain to carry the wall around with you when you need to use the
> shop vac?
>
If you decide to stop struggling with moving the wall with the switch to
where you are using the vacuum, you may be interested in this suggestion.
The switch is for my Shop Vac QPS10. I found the manual by searching for
Shop Vac schematics and manual
Mouser Electronics - Electronic Components Distributor
Mouser #: 540-LRA32H2FBBNN
Mfr. #: LRA32H2FBBNN
Desc.: Rocker Switches & Paddle Switches DPST BLK 10A QC TERM
RoHS: RoHS Compliant
It cost me about $10 to get two switches (One to install and a spare)
About a $1 a piece for the switch and $8 shipping and handling.
It snaps into the vacuum, but when I got it in, I realized I had it
backwards, from the markings on the sweeper.
So; on my vacuum if it is off, you do the logical and push OFF to turn
it on, It it is off you push On to turn it off. I keep explaining to my
grandson, why would you push on when it is obvious the vacuum is off.
On 08/28/2016 7:43 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, August 28, 2016 at 1:56:39 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>> On 08/28/2016 12:02 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:02:33 PM UTC-4, Artemus wrote:
>>>> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On 08/24/2016 2:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> The switch in my shop vac is a DPST switch, when I test it with a
>>>>>> continuity tester only one side is making a connection. I don't know a
>>>>>> lot about switches but i am assuming both sides should have a connection?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, if you're measuring the right contacts, yes... :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Are both pairs of contacts in use?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, just because i'm curious - why don't they just use a SPST switch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Presuming it's a 120V vac and not 240V, then there's only real reason to switch the hot leg;
>>>>> excepting, of course, if it doesn't have a polarized plug, either wire could be the hot one...so,
>>>>> they switch 'em both would be my best guess w/o further details.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My shop vac is 120V and it's switch died about 10 yrs ago. I replaced it
>>>> with a standard wall switch and it's still going strong.
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>
>>> Isn't it a pain to carry the wall around with you when you need to use the
>>> shop vac?
>>>
>> If you decide to stop struggling with moving the wall with the switch to
>> where you are using the vacuum, you may be interested in this suggestion.
>>
>> The switch is for my Shop Vac QPS10. I found the manual by searching for
>> Shop Vac schematics and manual
>>
>> Mouser Electronics - Electronic Components Distributor
>> Mouser #: 540-LRA32H2FBBNN
>> Mfr. #: LRA32H2FBBNN
>> Desc.: Rocker Switches & Paddle Switches DPST BLK 10A QC TERM
>> RoHS: RoHS Compliant
>>
>> It cost me about $10 to get two switches (One to install and a spare)
>> About a $1 a piece for the switch and $8 shipping and handling.
>>
>> It snaps into the vacuum, but when I got it in, I realized I had it
>> backwards, from the markings on the sweeper.
>>
>> So; on my vacuum if it is off, you do the logical and push OFF to turn
>> it on, It it is off you push On to turn it off. I keep explaining to my
>> grandson, why would you push on when it is obvious the vacuum is off.
>
> A reversed switch on a wet-dry vac might not be anything more than confusing,
> but I sure wouldn't leave it that way on a router or any other tool that could hurt
> your grandson.
>
> Why didn't you switch it back once you realized it was backward? Just curious...
>
I would never leave it that way if there was a safety consideration.
While I said it just snapped in, It took a lot of fiddling to get the
wires and switch positioned correctly so the switch "Easily" snapped in.
In other words since there was no safety concerns I was to lazy to spend
another 5 minutes getting the switch out plus another 15 to 20 minutes
getting wires and switch positioned so I could "easily" pop it back in.
I also considered the possibility of damaging the switch or the housing
getting it out to re position it. (The old switch failed because it was
in pieces.)
On 8/27/2016 11:01 PM, dpb wrote:
>
> The posting to which you responded was answering the OP's original
> question of "why use a 2-pole instead of single-pole switch"?
>
> Yes, granted, it only takes breaking one connection to make the switch
> work; one _presumes_ there was a reason the original manufacturer of the
> vac the OP has used the 2P; the likely reason for that is it uses a
> nonpolarized plug.
>
Could it be for the 220V versions also?