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03/10/2004 3:36 AM

SCMS or CMS ??????????????

Hi,
I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
and cons.
Mikey


This topic has 23 replies

mS

[email protected] (Sam Schmenk)

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

06/10/2004 8:24 AM

Agreed. CMS for portability and RAS for larger crosscuts. I
particularly like using 10" blades for both, as well as the table saw.
There's always a good crosscut blade around even if one or two is
being sharpened.
SS

md

mac davis

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

04/10/2004 2:57 PM

On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:14:18 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>RAS.

yup.. with a good cut off saw and a RAS, you can pretty much figure
that your (power) sawing is covered..


Mac

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 10:14 PM

RAS.

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Rumpty

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
> and cons.
> Mikey

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 9:36 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
> like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
> Tahnks for the help.
> Miey

I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 8:18 PM

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
> like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
> Tahnks for the help.
> Miey

That's what I chose to do.

The thing to remember is that ANY saw can bite you, so be careful with it,
and consider what additional clamping or backboards would help you to make
controlled cuts, for whatever project you are taking on.

I like my yellow saw, by the way, anticipating your next question....

Patriarch

mM

[email protected] (Malcolm Webb)

in reply to patriarch <[email protected]> on 03/10/2004 8:18 PM

04/10/2004 8:09 AM

I know I'm going to feel real stupid when someone replies to this, but
I've been following this thread hoping that it would dawn on me what CMS
and SCMS stand for -- no luck I'm afraid :-(

In my professional work, CMS is an abbreviation for Coal Mining
Subsidence!!

Malcolm Webb

GG

Greg G.

in reply to patriarch <[email protected]> on 03/10/2004 8:18 PM

04/10/2004 3:14 AM

Malcolm Webb said:

>I know I'm going to feel real stupid when someone replies to this, but
>I've been following this thread hoping that it would dawn on me what CMS
>and SCMS stand for -- no luck I'm afraid :-(

Compound Miter Saw, and Sliding Compound Miter Saw.


Greg G.

md

mac davis

in reply to Greg G. on 04/10/2004 3:14 AM

04/10/2004 2:52 PM

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:10:10 -0400, Greg G. wrote:

>Malcolm Webb said:
>
>>Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.
>>
>>Malcolm Webb
>
>Well there's stupid, and there's unenlightened.
>You've just been enlightened.
>
>There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! ;-)
>
>
>Greg G.

got some word class advice a LONG time ago on my 1st job.. the boss
said something like "there are no stupid questions, only people stupid
enough to do things without asking questions first"...

I must of told a few hundred people that over the years when i worked
in real estate..


Mac

GG

Greg G.

in reply to Greg G. on 04/10/2004 3:14 AM

04/10/2004 8:10 AM

Malcolm Webb said:

>Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.
>
>Malcolm Webb

Well there's stupid, and there's unenlightened.
You've just been enlightened.

There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! ;-)


Greg G.

md

mac davis

in reply to Greg G. on 04/10/2004 3:14 AM

04/10/2004 2:50 PM

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:37 +0100 (BST), [email protected] (Malcolm Webb)
wrote:

>Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.
>
>Malcolm Webb
>
it's the sliding and non-slide version of what us technopeasants call
a cut off or "chop" saw.. *g*




Mac

BM

"Brian Morris"

in reply to mac davis on 04/10/2004 2:50 PM

07/10/2004 12:00 PM

Well, here in Canada we call it a Mitre saw
"Malcolm Webb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
> "chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)
>
> Malcolm Webb
>
>

mM

[email protected] (Malcolm Webb)

in reply to mac davis on 04/10/2004 2:50 PM

06/10/2004 7:18 AM

I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
"chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)

Malcolm Webb

md

mac davis

in reply to mac davis on 04/10/2004 2:50 PM

06/10/2004 2:34 PM

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 07:18 +0100 (BST), [email protected] (Malcolm Webb)
wrote:

>I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
>"chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)
>
>Malcolm Webb
>
yeah, but you guys light fags and find no magic in a poof.. *g*


Mac

GG

Greg G.

in reply to mac davis on 04/10/2004 2:50 PM

06/10/2004 4:23 AM

Malcolm Webb said:

>I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
>"chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)

Aw, whaddya expect from a country where Dado blades are illegal. ;-)
If you saw a crew of illegals on a construction site whacking house
trim with a CMS - you would understand how the term was coined! ;-)


Greg G.

mM

[email protected] (Malcolm Webb)

in reply to Greg G. on 04/10/2004 3:14 AM

04/10/2004 12:37 PM

Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.

Malcolm Webb

md

mac davis

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

04/10/2004 2:56 PM

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:36:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
>> like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
>> Tahnks for the help.
>> Miey
>
>I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"
>
hmm.. sounds like you're compensating here... lol


Mac

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 4:54 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
> I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
> and cons.
> Mikey

Sliders cots more but can cross cut wider. A 10" SCMS can cut about 11
1/2".

CMS are less likely to go out of adjustment since there are fewer parts to
move..

If you do a lot of framing or deck building with 2 x 12's, get the slider.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 11:05 PM



<Greg G.> wrote in message
>>I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"
>
> 13" ?? - What is this, a game of one-upsmanship?
>
> "Mine's bigger than Yours is..." ;-)

Hey, I'm always hoping for an extra inch. No, just a typo, should be 12"

GG

Greg G.

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 5:50 PM

Edwin Pawlowski said:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
>> like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
>> Tahnks for the help.
>> Miey
>
>I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"

13" ?? - What is this, a game of one-upsmanship?

"Mine's bigger than Yours is..." ;-)

Or is this some product I have never seen.
And where on earth do you get 13" blades...


Greg G.

Pn

Prometheus

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 9:54 AM

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:54:33 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
>> and cons.
>> Mikey
>
>Sliders cots more but can cross cut wider. A 10" SCMS can cut about 11
>1/2".
>
>CMS are less likely to go out of adjustment since there are fewer parts to
>move..
>
>If you do a lot of framing or deck building with 2 x 12's, get the slider.

Conversely, if you deal mainly with narrower boards (most of my
hardwood comes in 6" widths) I've found my CMS to be quite accurate
and easy to deal with. I just use my table saw for anything that is
too wide for the CMS, though if you're limited in space, this might
not always be an option. I've also found that in rare, limited
occasions, crosscutting a board with a width up to 10" is a reasable
task for a CMS, provided you can seat the blade in the kerf when you
flip the board over.

GG

Greg G.

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

04/10/2004 8:08 AM

Edwin Pawlowski said:

>
>
><Greg G.> wrote in message
>>>I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"
>>
>> 13" ?? - What is this, a game of one-upsmanship?
>>
>> "Mine's bigger than Yours is..." ;-)
>
>Hey, I'm always hoping for an extra inch. No, just a typo, should be 12"

I though as much, but thought I would be sure - lest someone out there
was confused (or impressed). ;-)


Greg G.

Pn

Prometheus

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 12:50 PM

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:03:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
>like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????

I'd say so, unless you've got the money to spare. Mine is a 10" CMS,
so a 12" would probably cut anything up to, say 8" in width without
much problem. If you're doing cabinets and things, this is all you're
likely to need. And it's obviously great fun to have all the tools
you can lay your hands on, so if you find the CMS is inadequate you
can always get the slider later on!

One other thing to consider- a SCMS *can* kick back the saw at you, a
CMS cannot. I've never had any problems, but I've heard stories of
people getting knocked back on their butts. Might be something to
consider if you're prone to joint pain (to prevent the kickback you
need to apply pressure to the saw to slow it down while it cuts)

>Tahnks for the help.
>Miey

m

in reply to [email protected] on 03/10/2004 3:36 AM

03/10/2004 4:03 PM

So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
Tahnks for the help.
Miey


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