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victoria

26/09/2006 4:15 AM

Hemlock wood poisoning


Does anyone know if seasoned and dried hemlock has any undesirable
characteristics? I want to use hemlock because of its workability and
straight grain, for children's toys, boxes, etc. But I remember that
Socrates (?) was poisoned with hemlock.




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victoria


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in reply to victoria on 26/09/2006 4:15 AM

26/09/2006 11:19 AM


victoria wrote:

> Does anyone know if seasoned and dried hemlock has any undesirable
> characteristics?

It's unworkable and the grain is anything but straight? You can find
_much_ better timber than this, even in the UK. Try douglas fir ("red
deal") at least it's as commonly available as hemlock.

At least it's not poisonous though - that's a different hemlock and no
relation.

PG

"Puff Griffis"

in reply to victoria on 26/09/2006 4:15 AM

26/09/2006 1:34 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conium


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> Socrates (?) was poisoned with hemlock.
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[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to victoria on 26/09/2006 4:15 AM

26/09/2006 8:02 PM

Peter Huebner <[email protected]> writes:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>says...
>>
>> Does anyone know if seasoned and dried hemlock has any undesirable
>> characteristics? I want to use hemlock because of its workability and
>> straight grain, for children's toys, boxes, etc. But I remember that
>> Socrates (?) was poisoned with hemlock.
>>
>
>This is the poisonous hemlock:
>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefleckter_Schierling
>
>Nothing to do with the tree. Sorry, didn't find a link in English, but you get

The link to the english version (Conium) is on the left side of the german page.

scott

DW

"Dave W"

in reply to victoria on 26/09/2006 4:15 AM

26/09/2006 8:25 AM

Workability and straight grain? My impression, perhaps totally incorrect,
is that hemlock is best used green since when it dries it is impossible to
work because it splinters and cracks easily. I guess the poison issue has
been put to bed.
Dave

PH

Peter Huebner

in reply to victoria on 26/09/2006 4:15 AM

26/09/2006 8:29 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> Does anyone know if seasoned and dried hemlock has any undesirable
> characteristics? I want to use hemlock because of its workability and
> straight grain, for children's toys, boxes, etc. But I remember that
> Socrates (?) was poisoned with hemlock.
>

This is the poisonous hemlock:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefleckter_Schierling

Nothing to do with the tree. Sorry, didn't find a link in English, but you get
a nice picture here with flowers, seeds etc ...
.... never knew it was that poisonous when I was a kid: we used to whittle
flutes out of it since the stems are hollow. Anyway, the poison seems to reside
mostly in unripe seeds, or so the article says.

-P.

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AB

Andrew Barss

in reply to victoria on 26/09/2006 4:15 AM

26/09/2006 5:52 AM

victoria <[email protected]> wrote:

: Does anyone know if seasoned and dried hemlock has any undesirable
: characteristics? I want to use hemlock because of its workability and
: straight grain, for children's toys, boxes, etc. But I remember that
: Socrates (?) was poisoned with hemlock.


Different plant. Water hemlock (the poisonous stuff) is a
herbacious plant. It's not the same as hemlock the tree,
although some sources say the tree was named for the plant due
to the tree's needles smelling like water hemlock.

-- Andy Barss

Jn

John

in reply to victoria on 26/09/2006 4:15 AM

26/09/2006 9:53 PM

Seasoned and dried, as in from your yard tree or firewood pile, you will
find it to be very light in both color and weight, that it sands easily
but also can splinter badly, and knots can be very tough. For this
reason you may therefore not want to make items that very young children
will be likely to chew on. There's no poison in it at all, though. I
have some nice boxes and frames made of it, and a handful of turned
items too. If you can find sections that are clear, then yes you can get
some attractive straight grained wood. Most lumberyard hemlock is
construction grade, however. If you can find a softwood mill in your
area you'll be more likely to get nicer stuff.

J.

victoria wrote:
> Does anyone know if seasoned and dried hemlock has any undesirable
> characteristics? I want to use hemlock because of its workability and
> straight grain, for children's toys, boxes, etc. But I remember that
> Socrates (?) was poisoned with hemlock.


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