"Gramps' shop" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon ...
>
> Can these General milk paints be sprayed? Looked on their site and there
> was no info about spraying.
>
> Larry
>
I can't answer that question, but they do on with a brush with little
effort.
Leon ...
Can these General milk paints be sprayed? Looked on their site and there was no info about spraying.
Larry
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 10:42:29 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
> On 2/21/2015 5:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> > Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> I don't think I have ever seen a red oil based stain premixed.
> I have however used red stains/milk paints that will let the grain show
> through. but having said that I have not seen many stains on pine that
> I like either....
>
> These links go to what I have done with the red milk paint type stains.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/7199503670/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8288561015/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8168293446/
>
> From General Finishes
>
> https://generalfinishes.com/retail-products/water-base-milk-paints-glazes
>
> FWIW these are water based but don't raise the grain as badly as regular
> water based products. AND all are sealed with an oil based gel varnish
> by Old Masters.
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 6:27:32 AM UTC-6, Dr. Deb wrote:
> Don't know if you thought of this or not, but
>
> http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?176414-Tinting-Shellac-or-Lacquer-which-can-give-you-the-widest-array-of-colors
>
> I spray shellac all the time and a little HLVP touch up gun from Harbor Freight does a very good job and is inexpensive.
>
> Deb
Thanks, Deb. Just what I'm looking for.
On 2/21/2015 4:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
>
> Larry
>
At the risk of being soundly chastised:
Cherry oil stain. It will be a *dark* red but still...
"Gramps' shop" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather
> stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an
> oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction
> grade.
>
> Larry
>
If you want something that's kinda more paint than stain, while still being
stain, Home Depot has a Behr deck stain that leaves the wood an almost
opaque red. It holds up very well in deck usage, but I can't say if it
would be appropriate for this application.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-1-gal-Redwood-Oil-Latex-Stain-
00901/100184240
Puckdropper
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Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain?
I've thinned colored oil based enamel with turpentine and used that as a stain on light wood. This works better on some species of wood than others. I got good results. You van put coats of clear varnish over this.
Joel
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
I've thinned colored enamel with turpentine and stained light wood. This works better on some species than others. Then coat this with clear varnish.
Joel
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 10:42:29 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
>
>> I don't think I have ever seen a red oil based stain premixed.
>> I have however used red stains/milk paints that will let the grain show
>> through. but having said that I have not seen many stains on pine that
>> I like either....
>
> Pine needs to have a conditioner applied or it blotches badly.
> Conditioners are cheap and plentiful, and easy to apply.
>
> One good example of an oil based premix:
>
> http://www.myoldmasters.com/products-penetrating-stains.htm
>
> Their "Crimson Fire" at the bottom of the color selects is pretty bright.
RIGHT under my nose. I confess, I have never used an Old Masters stain.
LOLL
>
>> AND all are sealed with an oil based gel varnish
>> by Old Masters.
>
> One should always seal stained wood with something. It has no abrasion
> resistance, little or nor moisture resistance, and no resistance to cleaners or solvents.
>
> Robert
On 2/21/2015 5:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
>
> Larry
>
How about using RED colorant that is used in cement.
Or having some clear to go over the stain with a squirt of so of
red from the paint (make my color) machine.
Seems like you could add color to any paint or stain.
Martin
On 2/21/2015 6:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
>
> Larry
>
Get some transtint RED and goto town.
Either water based, or alcohol based.
Hope you are using maple, as I think it will work and look good on maple.
--
Jeff
On 2/21/2015 6:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
>
> Larry
Lots of good options here. Remember that "customer satisfaction" is the
goal. Let your granddaughter approve a sample before proceeding.
"Gramps' shop" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather
> stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an
> oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction
> grade.
For a young'un I'd lean to paint, actually, as being more
durable and easier to touch up if it gets dinged (altho
that's more likely with a boy than a girl).
In any event, if you don't want to paint I'd suggest a
dye like Transfast. You can get some pretty vivid colors
that way, and the result still looks like wood (more or
less - a color that's not brownish looks a bit unnatural).
At one time Minwax would "custom mix" stains in various
bright colors (for use on electric guitars and similar
things), you could get an almost paint-like color that way.
As someone else said, you can get a "rustic red" stain
intended for barns, fences, and such like things.
John
On 2/21/2015 5:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
>
> Larry
>
I don't think I have ever seen a red oil based stain premixed.
I have however used red stains/milk paints that will let the grain show
through. but having said that I have not seen many stains on pine that
I like either....
These links go to what I have done with the red milk paint type stains.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/7199503670/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8288561015/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/8168293446/
From General Finishes
https://generalfinishes.com/retail-products/water-base-milk-paints-glazes
FWIW these are water based but don't raise the grain as badly as regular
water based products. AND all are sealed with an oil based gel varnish
by Old Masters.
On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 5:38:48 PM UTC-6, Gramps' shop wrote:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction grade.
>
> Larry
Red barn stain? I suppose there's an oil base blend. See if an outlet/store, near you, will wipe a sample onto your sample lumber. See if the coloring is appropriate.
https://www.google.com/search?q=red+bard+stain&rlz=1C1PQHA_enUS574US586&oq=red+bard+stain&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.4199j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
Then top coat with a clear coat, if applicable?
Sonny
On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 10:42:29 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
> I don't think I have ever seen a red oil based stain premixed.
> I have however used red stains/milk paints that will let the grain show
> through. but having said that I have not seen many stains on pine that
> I like either....
Pine needs to have a conditioner applied or it blotches badly. Conditioners are cheap and plentiful, and easy to apply.
One good example of an oil based premix:
http://www.myoldmasters.com/products-penetrating-stains.htm
Their "Crimson Fire" at the bottom of the color selects is pretty bright.
> AND all are sealed with an oil based gel varnish
> by Old Masters.
One should always seal stained wood with something. It has no abrasion resistance, little or nor moisture resistance, and no resistance to cleaners or solvents.
Robert
On 2/21/15 5:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd rather
> stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red using an
> oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent construction
> grade.
>
> Larry
>
Not sure about the oil part, but I would suggest looking into dyes.
You can get very, very bright red using dyes.
Here's a piece I did for a client in orange.
http://goo.gl/zJYj1K
It's actually a bit more orange in person than the picture shows.
I've seen some red dyes that are very bold and bright, almost like a
paint, but with the wood grain showing through.
I'd suggest using a pre-stain conditioner on pine or it could get *very*
splotchy. You may want more than one application of conditioner, as
well. I did several tests on scraps of the same wood for this piece.
Dye is much more penetrating than stain so testing is kind of critical.
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Martin Eastburn wrote:
> On 2/21/2015 5:38 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
> > Granddaughter wants the bed I am building her to be red. I'd
> > rather stain than paint. Any recommendations on getting to red
> > using an oil-based stain? The material is two-bys in decent
> > construction grade. Larry
> >
> How about using RED colorant that is used in cement.
> Or having some clear to go over the stain with a squirt of so of
> red from the paint (make my color) machine.
>
> Seems like you could add color to any paint or stain.
Ever see "The Red Violin?" Great movie.