I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept
falling out.
When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again nothing
fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut it in
half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works and
sometimes not...
I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
compress in a bolt down...
Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a cardboard/foil
gasket?
Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few issues.
>The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept falling
>out.
>
> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again nothing
> fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut it in half
> to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works and sometimes
> not...
>
> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
> compress in a bolt down...
>
> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a cardboard/foil
> gasket?
>
> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>
> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
cut one from cork sheet?
Pat Barber wrote:
> On 5/11/2012 6:47 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket
>> kept falling out.
>
> http://www.agrisupply.com/Replacement-Spout-For-Plastic-Gas-Containers/p/74442/&sid=&eid=/
Problem is (as I'm sure you know Pat...), that the new stupid spouts don't
use the same size opening. Nothing at all standard anymore with spouts.
It's not even like all of the new junk is one set size - that at least would
make a replacement an easier thing.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
tiredofspam wrote:
> I should have thought of that one, I kept thinking permatex since that
> is what I started using when I built hot cars...
>
> I might go with the cork since I have a bunch of it for sanding blocks
> and clamping pads.
>
Cork will work just fine. It's actually quite common for gasket material.
Like I said in another post - just remember to make it very slightly
oversized so it stays in place in the cap.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
tiredofspam wrote:
> BTW Lew, you have a fixation with GAS don't you. 8>)
>
It comes with age... and the greater propensity for gas.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
tiredofspam wrote:
> Chairman, thanks. 2-3 minutes of work and it was gold...
> No leaks.. and stays put.
>
Gotta love success!
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Larry W wrote:
> Try making a gasket out of a piece of sheet rubber like an old tire
> inner tube or something similar. I always keep the old inner tubes
> from bicycle tire changes, they come in handy for making small seals,
> gaskets, large rubber bands etc.
Great for high velocity sling shots too!
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 5/11/2012 7:47 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept
> falling out.
>
> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again nothing
> fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut it in half
> to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works and sometimes
> not...
>
> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
> compress in a bolt down...
>
> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a cardboard/foil
> gasket?
>
> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>
> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
Damn! You just solved a problem that has been bugging me for many years.
[email protected] (Larry W) wrote in news:jolljb$8q2$1
@speranza.aioe.org:
> Try making a gasket out of a piece of sheet rubber like an old tire
> inner tube or something similar. I always keep the old inner tubes
> from bicycle tire changes, they come in handy for making small seals,
> gaskets, large rubber bands etc.
>
>
A piece of pond liner would probably work just fine, if you know anyone
who's just put in a pond or installs them. For the size you'd need, it'd
probably be considered trash anyway.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Han <[email protected]> wrote in news:XnsA05148DB51AB6ikkezelf@
216.151.153.165:
> It really isn't too difficult to pour from a can such as in the picture
> without spilling. The trick is to keep the opening at the highest point
> of the can. Of course with delirium tremens all bets are off ...
>
For small amounts, I use a little pipette to suck the material out of the
cans. I wonder if a turkey baster would work just as well for larger
amounts?
It seems like those cans are designed to spill.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
tiredofspam wrote:
> I have a tube, but it curls, and I don't want to fuss with it dropping
> in and out. I want something that will stay where I put it.
>
> I move this spout from Alcohol to Mineral spirits.. I don't keep it
> on, I remove it to seal the can back up.
>
> Good Idea though.I guess if I were to glue it down somehow.
>
The secret to making any gasket, regardless of the material is to make it
just slightly oversized so you have to kind of push it into place. I'm sure
you know that but I thought it might be worth reminding. That way it will
always stay up inside the cap whenever you remove it.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
tiredofspam wrote:
> I can't do the angle, since each can registers in a different
> position.
> I already tested that when I built it by marking the top that I used
> and testing it.
>
> So it is very generic. BTW each can of Alky can be different too.
>
Ya know what... I might just have a partial sheet of gasket material laying
around in the garage. I'm painting a car today, so I can't rummage around
out there much or I'll raise dust. Later tonight, or tomorrow I will look.
I'll be happy to cut you off a six inch square if you'd like, and snail mail
it to you. Ping me via email if you are interested, and give me your
address. No charge even!
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
[This followup was posted to rec.woodworking and a copy was sent to the
cited author.]
In article <[email protected]>, tiredofspam
says...
>
> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept
> falling out.
>
> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again nothing
> fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut it in
> half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works and
> sometimes not...
>
> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
> compress in a bolt down...
>
> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a cardboard/foil
> gasket?
>
> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>
> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
First thing is to note that the gasket does not need to be a narrow
perimeter strip. Instead it would probably work just fine with a half
inch hole in the middle.
For more durable thin materials to make a new gasket you should look
inside the lids of other empty containers and find one that has a large
enough diameter to work with. Some lids have a disk of a plastic foam
type material that should work OK.
--
Michael Karas
Carousel Design Solutions
http://www.carousel-design.com
Chairman, thanks. 2-3 minutes of work and it was gold...
No leaks.. and stays put.
Thanks.
On 5/11/2012 10:13 PM, ChairMan wrote:
> "tiredofspam"<nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few issues.
>> The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept falling
>> out.
>>
>> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
>> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again nothing
>> fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut it in half
>> to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works and sometimes
>> not...
>>
>> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
>> compress in a bolt down...
>>
>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a cardboard/foil
>> gasket?
>>
>> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>>
>> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
>
> cut one from cork sheet?
>
>
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket
> kept falling out.
>
> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again
> nothing fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut
> it in half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works
> and sometimes not...
>
> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
> compress in a bolt down...
>
> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a
> cardboard/foil gasket?
>
> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>
> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
It really isn't too difficult to pour from a can such as in the picture
without spilling. The trick is to keep the opening at the highest point
of the can. Of course with delirium tremens all bets are off ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On 12 May 2012 11:09:47 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket
>> kept falling out.
>>
>> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
>> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again
>> nothing fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut
>> it in half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works
>> and sometimes not...
>>
>> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
>> compress in a bolt down...
>>
>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a
>> cardboard/foil gasket?
>>
>> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>>
>> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
>
>It really isn't too difficult to pour from a can such as in the picture
>without spilling. The trick is to keep the opening at the highest point
>of the can. Of course with delirium tremens all bets are off ...
Indubitably, my dear Han.
I found a gallon gas can with a flexible rubberesque spout decades
ago. I just lost the can it went on, so I wonder if it would work on
my solvent cans... It has about a 5/8" ID and is 8 inches long, so it
fills everything without spilling a drop.
--
In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the
necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create.
-- Raoul Vaneigem
ChairMan wrote:
> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket
>> kept falling out.
>>
>> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an
>> o ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again
>> nothing fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I
>> cut it in half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it
>> works and sometimes not...
>>
>> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
>> compress in a bolt down...
>>
>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a
>> cardboard/foil gasket?
>>
>> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>>
>> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
>
> cut one from cork sheet?
That would be my first thought. Or - from a piece of gasket material. You
can get gasket material from any automotive parts store. But... remember to
cut your inside hole first - it's a btch to do after you cut a piece to
size.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Try making a gasket out of a piece of sheet rubber like an old tire
inner tube or something similar. I always keep the old inner tubes
from bicycle tire changes, they come in handy for making small seals,
gaskets, large rubber bands etc.
--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org
On 5/12/2012 7:38 AM, Larry W wrote:
> Try making a gasket out of a piece of sheet rubber like an old tire
> inner tube or something similar. I always keep the old inner tubes
> from bicycle tire changes, they come in handy for making small seals,
> gaskets, large rubber bands etc.
Indeed, and I routinely stop by the local Bandaq dealer and pick up a
used truck tube or two to always have one on hand. Here, and at least
up until last visit, they would give them away gratis in small numbers,
anyway. The bike tube is much thinner material, of course, but that's
ok for many things, too.
And, as another said, it's good to always have at least a small sheet of
various gasket materials/thicknesses in the drawer as well...
--
On 5/11/2012 8:47 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept
> falling out.
Besides the gasket (which should be pretty simple to make), seems like
it would be much easier to pour accurately with if the spout had a
angle--like either bend it or stick a 45 on there...
But, a nice idea; hadn't thought of modifying one so...
I still have a bunch of old metal 5-gal oil cans (in which used to get
hydraulic oil primarily) w/ the formed in pouring spout and the double
lid on the spout w/ a 1/2" and a 1-1/2" opening depending on which is
removed. They've become priceless w/ the demise of a working gas can
w/o all the foolishness of the new spouts.
But the old small transfer plastic containers that have used for the
small engines where the 5-gal is bulky to get to has split the plastic
spout and gotten brittle. Just might have to follow your lead and make
myself one of these to replace it. The only real disadvantage I see is
the taller profile makes them a little more tip-easy and the other cans
have larger opening for filling them--not sure my regular funnel that
I've used will fit that opening but those are pretty minor problems to
deal with.
Good idea... +1
--
On 5/12/2012 6:09 AM, Han wrote:
...
> It really isn't too difficult to pour from a can such as in the picture
> without spilling. The trick is to keep the opening at the highest point
> of the can. ...
Indeed, if it's absolutely the highest point, very little will spill,
indeed... <gd&r>
But, I grok what you mean... :)
--
I didn't think of that. Good one.
On 5/11/2012 10:13 PM, ChairMan wrote:
> "tiredofspam"<nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few issues.
>> The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept falling
>> out.
>>
>> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
>> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again nothing
>> fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut it in half
>> to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works and sometimes
>> not...
>>
>> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
>> compress in a bolt down...
>>
>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a cardboard/foil
>> gasket?
>>
>> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>>
>> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
>
> cut one from cork sheet?
>
>
I can't do the angle, since each can registers in a different position.
I already tested that when I built it by marking the top that I used and
testing it.
So it is very generic. BTW each can of Alky can be different too.
On 5/12/2012 8:58 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 5/11/2012 8:47 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept
>> falling out.
>
> Besides the gasket (which should be pretty simple to make), seems like
> it would be much easier to pour accurately with if the spout had a
> angle--like either bend it or stick a 45 on there...
>
> But, a nice idea; hadn't thought of modifying one so...
>
> I still have a bunch of old metal 5-gal oil cans (in which used to get
> hydraulic oil primarily) w/ the formed in pouring spout and the double
> lid on the spout w/ a 1/2" and a 1-1/2" opening depending on which is
> removed. They've become priceless w/ the demise of a working gas can w/o
> all the foolishness of the new spouts.
>
> But the old small transfer plastic containers that have used for the
> small engines where the 5-gal is bulky to get to has split the plastic
> spout and gotten brittle. Just might have to follow your lead and make
> myself one of these to replace it. The only real disadvantage I see is
> the taller profile makes them a little more tip-easy and the other cans
> have larger opening for filling them--not sure my regular funnel that
> I've used will fit that opening but those are pretty minor problems to
> deal with.
>
> Good idea... +1
>
> --
I have a tube, but it curls, and I don't want to fuss with it dropping
in and out. I want something that will stay where I put it.
I move this spout from Alcohol to Mineral spirits.. I don't keep it on,
I remove it to seal the can back up.
Good Idea though.I guess if I were to glue it down somehow.
On 5/12/2012 8:38 AM, Larry W wrote:
> Try making a gasket out of a piece of sheet rubber like an old tire
> inner tube or something similar. I always keep the old inner tubes
> from bicycle tire changes, they come in handy for making small seals,
> gaskets, large rubber bands etc.
>
>
BTW Lew, you have a fixation with GAS don't you. 8>)
On 5/11/2012 10:04 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "tiredofspam" wrote:
>
>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a
>> cardboard/foil gasket?
>
> ---------------------------------
> Buy a gallon can with a flex spout.
>
> Designed for the job.
>
> Will be less costly than a custom gasket from a die house.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
I should have thought of that one, I kept thinking permatex since that
is what I started using when I built hot cars...
I might go with the cork since I have a bunch of it for sanding blocks
and clamping pads.
On 5/12/2012 8:06 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> ChairMan wrote:
>> "tiredofspam"<nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket
>>> kept falling out.
>>>
>>> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an
>>> o ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again
>>> nothing fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I
>>> cut it in half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it
>>> works and sometimes not...
>>>
>>> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
>>> compress in a bolt down...
>>>
>>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a
>>> cardboard/foil gasket?
>>>
>>> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>>>
>>> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
>>
>> cut one from cork sheet?
>
> That would be my first thought. Or - from a piece of gasket material. You
> can get gasket material from any automotive parts store. But... remember to
> cut your inside hole first - it's a btch to do after you cut a piece to
> size.
>
Yea but when the can is new it is full immediately and makes a mess even
with a funnel. This solves that.
On 5/12/2012 7:09 AM, Han wrote:
> tiredofspam<nospam.nospam.com> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket
>> kept falling out.
>>
>> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with an o
>> ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again
>> nothing fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I cut
>> it in half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes it works
>> and sometimes not...
>>
>> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that you
>> compress in a bolt down...
>>
>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a
>> cardboard/foil gasket?
>>
>> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>>
>> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
>
> It really isn't too difficult to pour from a can such as in the picture
> without spilling. The trick is to keep the opening at the highest point
> of the can. Of course with delirium tremens all bets are off ...
>
Why would I want a gas can spout?
The mouth is small on the cans.
BTW I just picked up a couple of new cans, and they went from soldered
mouth to a plastic mouth which is even smaller.
So now I either need a new solution or I will have to transfer the can
to an older can using a funnel. (SUCKS)
I'm not sure what type of plastic the cap is, and if I can mend anything
to it. It might be plastic, nylon, acetal...
or anything else.
On 5/15/2012 3:14 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> On 5/11/2012 6:47 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket kept
>> falling out.
>
> http://www.agrisupply.com/Replacement-Spout-For-Plastic-Gas-Containers/p/74442/&sid=&eid=/
>
"tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Chairman, thanks. 2-3 minutes of work and it was gold...
> No leaks.. and stays put.
>
> Thanks.
>>
>> cut one from cork sheet?
>>
>>
hey, I do what i can<g>
glad it worked for ya
"tiredofspam" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I have a tube, but it curls, and I don't want to fuss with it dropping
in and out. I want something that will stay where I put it.
I move this spout from Alcohol to Mineral spirits.. I don't keep it on,
I remove it to seal the can back up.
Good Idea though.I guess if I were to glue it down somehow.
On 5/12/2012 8:38 AM, Larry W wrote:
> Try making a gasket out of a piece of sheet rubber like an old tire
> inner tube or something similar. I always keep the old inner tubes
> from bicycle tire changes, they come in handy for making small seals,
> gaskets, large rubber bands etc.
=======================================================================================
A little silicone on the gasket.
Mike Marlow wrote:
> ChairMan wrote:
>> "tiredofspam" <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I made a pour spout years ago. It's worked great , but it has a few
>>> issues. The seal to the cap can leak. and the cardboard/foil gasket
>>> kept falling out.
>>>
>>> When it fell out last time I lost it.. I tried to replace it with
>>> an
>>> o ring but none fit. So I went through my plumbing stuff and again
>>> nothing fit. So I made a gasket from a seal that was too large. I
>>> cut it in half to thin it, and also slit it to fit in. Sometimes
>>> it
>>> works and sometimes not...
>>>
>>> I am no good at making a gasket with permatex, only gaskets that
>>> you
>>> compress in a bolt down...
>>>
>>> Do any of you know of a solution short of going back to a
>>> cardboard/foil gasket?
>>>
>>> Image here: http://i.imgur.com/snX1Y.jpg
>>>
>>> It allows me to pour alky and spirits without a funnel.
>>
>> cut one from cork sheet?
>
> That would be my first thought. Or - from a piece of gasket
> material. You can get gasket material from any automotive parts
> store. But... remember to cut your inside hole first - it's a btch
> to do after you cut a piece to size.
a hole punch works well