"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:15:01 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> ><snip>
> >> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
> ><snip>
> >
> >I guess you live in a dog house???
> >
> Actually I specialize in finding homes for pets of the elderly and the
> handicapped.
> I'm a liaison between them and the new owner.
> When seniors have to give up a pet due to moving into a facility, or just
> because they can't afford to care for it any longer it is extremely
stressful.
> Old folks have died from the stress of losing a pet, or almost as bad sink
into
> deep depression.
>
> What I do is try to place the pet in a home where the new owner is willing
to
> share the pet. Allowing the senior to either visit or taking the pet to
the
> senor. I spend most of my volunteer time bringing our elderly citizens and
> animals together.
> There are far too many lonely seniors who due to no pet rules can't even
have a
> bird or even a fish. It very sad and very unfair. We are working to change
the
> laws relaxing these rules for seniors.
>
> Of course this wouldn't be something that would interest you Rob. Very few
> seniors in homes buy Lee Valley tools.
>
Good for you Robert...really.
And this purported activity justifies hiding behind an anonymous remailer,
acting like a roseate sphincter, and spewing obnoxious tripe.. how?
Eaton's probably went under just to get rid of you.....
Later dude.
In article <[email protected]>, Dave Hinz
<[email protected]> wrote:
> If you have a mirror, I bet you could find him.
No, he could throw himself on the floor - and miss.
Gerry
In article <[email protected]>, SweetNothing
<[email protected]> wrote:
> So the basis for all your "clamp" complaints against Lee Valley Tools
> lies only with online or catalogue pictures you've seen?
If you compare the headers of the post you're rprlying to with the
headers from other posts by "Robert" I think you'll find someone is now
forging his address to try to keep this shit storm flowing.
Standard Advice:
-- Ignore
-- Filter
-- Help others to do the same
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:17:36 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:45:09 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually sent a
>>fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the greatest.
>>Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from the
>>hurricane...
>>
> In other words to crooked American companies and their paid war lords who
> completely control Haiti.
> Wonderful.:(
> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
> We have a few native peoples up north in this country in desperate need of help
> right now but I guess they don't buy too many Lee Valley tools.
Wow, Robert, you're really over the top on this, you know that? It's
like your _obsessed_. Robin sends money to someone who needs it, and
you jump all over him for that, too.
Step back and take a look at this, Robert; you're over-reacting to a nothing.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:20:18 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2004 18:17:17 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Wow, Robert, you're really over the top on this, you know that? It's
>>like your _obsessed_. Robin sends money to someone who needs it
>
> LOL!
> You actually believe him?
> You're dumber than I thought.
Given that we've never conversed before (unless this is a new identity
for you here), that's an interesting statement to make. So you're saying
he's lying now? Last message, you were criticizing him for sending it
because it'd go to the wrong people, now you're saying he didn't send it
after all? You can't even be consistant for 2 messages in a row.
Which is it, Robert, you believe him and don't like him because he sent
it, or you don't believe him and don't like him because he didn't send it?
If you're going to have a point, it should at least be able to last more than
one post.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:33:13 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2004 18:24:53 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Which is it, Robert, you believe him and don't like him because he sent
>>it, or you don't believe him and don't like him because he didn't send it?
>>If you're going to have a point, it should at least be able to last more than
>>one post.
>
> He doesn't strike me as the 'giving' type period!
> I could be wrong but I don't believe a word he posts in this news group without
> proof.
So you criticized him for giving money to people in a particular country,
before you criticized him for lying about giving money to that country.
Sheesh. You should run for President, unsuccessfully.
> So far he has been long on posting, short on facts regarding his pricing policy
> in Canada.
The prices are what they are. Deal with it, or buy something else.
Very simple.
> I don't see this as being any different.
Somehow I knew you wouldn't.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:03:01 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:53:14 -0500, Paul Kierstead <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Oh for gods sake, they gave money to people in need, which is more then
>>most people and corporations do. Who did you give your last donation to?
>>
> SPCA. Over $600 cash this year.
> Over $5000 in the last ten years.
> Time donated at $10 an hour = at least $20,000 over the same time.
> I know it's not the same as helping crooked American companies in Haiti but...
>
> How about you?
Local volunteer fire department and (2) ambulance services for the last
decade+. None of which is relevant to you bitching about how someone
else decides to allocate their charitable giving, whilst simultaneously
saying you don't believe they're doing it, that is.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:17:29 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2004 19:12:05 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Local volunteer fire department and (2) ambulance services for the last
>>decade+.
>
> Just an excuse to party and get drunk every week with the guys.
Right, so remember that next time you call 911.
> At a hotel fire in my area a while back even the Fire Chief showed up drunk. One
> person died as a result.
> He's still Chief and still a drunk.
> No one else wants the job.
And of course this extends to all firefighters and EMTs, because of your
perception. I can see that your problems go beyond confusion about
exchange rates.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:01:31 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
> flame away.
> If you want to correct your rude behavior we can put an end to this.
> Or not.<g>
> Your choice.
The funny thing is, that there's only one rude person in this thread,
and it's not Robin. If you have a mirror, I bet you could find him.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:09:43 -0500, Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Dave jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:BI9md.17759
>> Good grief, will this ever end?
>
> It might not make any difference, but you could forward his message to
> [email protected]
Naah, just being an idiot isn't a violation of the TOS or AUP for pretty
much any ISP. In fact, some of them rely on their customers being so,
or they'd be broke.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:46:57 -0500, Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Liar. Clamps at Princess Auto.
>
> Only you would consider that cheap ass place as a supplier of quality
> woodworking tools. If you were in any way skilled as a woodworker, you'd
> have graduated from that cut rate store a long time ago.
Yeah, but their exchange rates for Canadian customers are very good, y'see.
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:14:41 GMT, Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's where my LV hardware catalog is too :O)
Heh. You guys need to check out the Garrett Wade tool catalog. The
ultimate in tool porn.
Dave
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:55:18 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If you are going to start a flame war on usenet as both Robin and Upscale did,
> make sure you have the balls and the mental stability to take it as well.
Bah. You're not worth much effort, Robert. Obviously you get off on the
argument, but you're just reciting the same tired old formula. Maybe you
could hang out in alt.flame and learn how it's done correctly.
Buh-bye now...
On 15 Nov 2004 18:24:53 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:20:18 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 15 Nov 2004 18:17:17 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Wow, Robert, you're really over the top on this, you know that? It's
>>>like your _obsessed_. Robin sends money to someone who needs it
>>
>> LOL!
>> You actually believe him?
>> You're dumber than I thought.
>
>Given that we've never conversed before (unless this is a new identity
>for you here), that's an interesting statement to make. So you're saying
>he's lying now? Last message, you were criticizing him for sending it
>because it'd go to the wrong people, now you're saying he didn't send it
>after all? You can't even be consistant for 2 messages in a row.
>
>Which is it, Robert, you believe him and don't like him because he sent
>it, or you don't believe him and don't like him because he didn't send it?
>If you're going to have a point, it should at least be able to last more than
>one post.
Rob Lee isn't his dad.
He doesn't strike me as the 'giving' type period!
I could be wrong but I don't believe a word he posts in this news group without
proof.
So far he has been long on posting, short on facts regarding his pricing policy
in Canada.
I don't see this as being any different.
Robin Lee wrote:
> "BMR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
> > it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
> >
>
> < snip>
>
> Hi - I think the seller's a few decades early...:)
>
> We have kept an archive of multiple pristine copies of every catalogue since
> the first in 1978 ... a full set would be 3-4 feet wide at least. Someday,
> we WILL put a set up for auction.... proceeds to charity, most likely...
>
> Cheers -
>
> Rob
Hi Rob,
My compliments to you and your staff responsible for the latest hardware
catalog. The photography and layout is superb. I thought it was only the old
Garret Wade catalogs were that nicely done.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:26:32 GMT, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>Is it time for a new Robin's butt thread?
<sigh> Jo4hn, Jo4hn, Jo4hn....
Beth rulz.
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/cmt-rt-1.htm
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:39:29 GMT, igor <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:33:13 GMT, Robert <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>I could be wrong but I don't believe a word he posts in this news group without
>>proof.
>>So far he has been long on posting, short on facts regarding his pricing policy
>>in Canada.
>
>I disagree with you.
That's because you are an idiot.
>I posted an explanation on the exchange rate issue
>and he confirmed it rather directly.
Canadians have always paid more regardless of exchange rate.
I challenged anyone to show me ONE DAY in the last TWO years when Canadians paid
the same or less for a Lee Valley plane.
There have been ZERO takers because that day does not exist.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:53:14 -0500, Paul Kierstead <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually sent a
>> >fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the greatest.
>> >Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from the
>> >hurricane...
>> >
>> In other words to crooked American companies and their paid war lords who
>> completely control Haiti.
>> Wonderful.:(
>> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
>
>Oh for gods sake, they gave money to people in need, which is more then
>most people and corporations do. Who did you give your last donation to?
>
SPCA. Over $600 cash this year.
Over $5000 in the last ten years.
Time donated at $10 an hour = at least $20,000 over the same time.
I know it's not the same as helping crooked American companies in Haiti but...
How about you?
On 15 Nov 2004 19:12:05 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>Local volunteer fire department and (2) ambulance services for the last
>decade+.
Just an excuse to party and get drunk every week with the guys.
At a hotel fire in my area a while back even the Fire Chief showed up drunk. One
person died as a result.
He's still Chief and still a drunk.
No one else wants the job.
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message news:<161120040708103134%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca>...
> In article <[email protected]>, SweetNothing
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > So the basis for all your "clamp" complaints against Lee Valley Tools
> > lies only with online or catalogue pictures you've seen?
>
> If you compare the headers of the post you're rprlying to with the
> headers from other posts by "Robert" I think you'll find someone is now
> forging his address to try to keep this shit storm flowing.
>
> Standard Advice:
> -- Ignore
> -- Filter
> -- Help others to do the same
If people wouldn't quote him, those reading through Google would never
have to see him. It seems he has done us a favor and self-filtered
himself out of Google (and that is the same for all "Robert" postings,
so if someone is forging his address they had enough sense to also set
themselves up to not be archived - and I thank them for that). Now
everbody just quit quoting him or, better yet, just quit responding.
In article <[email protected]>,
Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:53:14 -0500, Paul Kierstead <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> >Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually sent a
>>> >fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the greatest.
>>> >Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from the
>>> >hurricane...
>>> >
>>> In other words to crooked American companies and their paid war lords who
>>> completely control Haiti.
>>> Wonderful.:(
>>> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
>>
>>Oh for gods sake, they gave money to people in need, which is more then
>>most people and corporations do. Who did you give your last donation to?
>>
>SPCA. Over $600 cash this year.
>Over $5000 in the last ten years.
>Time donated at $10 an hour = at least $20,000 over the same time.
Seen in another post: "Frankly, I think you're a liar."
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
<snip>
I guess you live in a dog house???
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:15:40 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:15:01 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> ><snip>
>> >> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >I guess you live in a dog house???
>> >
>> Actually I specialize in finding homes for pets of the elderly and the
>> handicapped.
>> I'm a liaison between them and the new owner.
>> When seniors have to give up a pet due to moving into a facility, or just
>> because they can't afford to care for it any longer it is extremely
>stressful.
>> Old folks have died from the stress of losing a pet, or almost as bad sink
>into
>> deep depression.
>>
>> What I do is try to place the pet in a home where the new owner is willing
>to
>> share the pet. Allowing the senior to either visit or taking the pet to
>the
>> senor. I spend most of my volunteer time bringing our elderly citizens and
>> animals together.
>> There are far too many lonely seniors who due to no pet rules can't even
>have a
>> bird or even a fish. It very sad and very unfair. We are working to change
>the
>> laws relaxing these rules for seniors.
>>
>> Of course this wouldn't be something that would interest you Rob. Very few
>> seniors in homes buy Lee Valley tools.
>>
>
>Good for you Robert...really.
>
>And this purported activity justifies hiding behind an anonymous remailer,
>acting like a roseate sphincter, and spewing obnoxious tripe.. how?
>
>Eaton's probably went under just to get rid of you.....
>
Well there's always that?
Does your dad have any plans to fire you...yet?
>Later dude.
>
Robin you've been around usenet long enough to know exactly what you did to make
this personal. And we both know why you did it.
It suited your purpose to reply to one of my early posts and 'deliberately'
alter it's tone by snipping my positive remarks about Lee Valley.
Basically usenet marching orders to the Lee Valley groupies in the Wreck to
flame away.
If you want to correct your rude behavior we can put an end to this.
Or not.<g>
Your choice.
HAND now.
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Robin you've been around usenet long enough to know exactly what you did
to make
> this personal. And we both know why you did it.
> It suited your purpose to reply to one of my early posts and
'deliberately'
> alter it's tone by snipping my positive remarks about Lee Valley.
> Basically usenet marching orders to the Lee Valley groupies in the Wreck
to
> flame away.
You're really not too bright are you? For all your sniping and cursing here
at Lee Valley Tools, all you're effectively done is advertise how good they
are. The 99% of respondents to your diatribe have lauded their service and
their products. That's bound to bring in new customers. Even you who hate
the company for whatever reason, admit that you still buy from them.
Fact is that you're a failure as a troll, here and I highly suspect, in real
life too. I'd suggest that you seek counselling except I know that your
warped mine would never allow itself to realize how much it needs help. So,
instead, you spend a large proportion of your time stalking instead of
really living.
Enjoy!
Good grief, will this ever end?
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:24:57 -0500, Village Idiot
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
>>it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
>>
>>Maybe the resident LV pricing policy troll will prefer those prices.
>>:*)
>>
>>Note to troll - less $$ for LV means less R&D spent on developing new
>>tools.
>
> Note to Village Idiot.
> Why should Canadians pay more than Americans for the same Lee Valley R&D?
Hi Robin
While these guys are arguing the toss over there in the US and Canada and if
you feel like a little respite, I'm sure you would be welcome on this side
of the pond in the UK. We certainly need some stores of the quality of Lee
Valley.
So come on over, open a few stores, relax and enjoy the appreciation you'd
get from British woodworkers. Your reputation goes before you
Mick
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Who said they were quality, I said they were cheap.
> They were the first purchase I ever made from Princess Auto and probably
my
> last. For clamping trim on desktops they are perfect. I don't have any
other use
> for 60" clamps.
Really? You must have been in there really recently if you're comparing
their products to Lee Valley Tools current products? And if you were in
there recently, then you're a hack. And tell me Robert, did you actually
write down the markings and id on those clamps and then run right over to LV
to compare that the clamps were identical?
> Although Princess Auto do have the identical dead blow hammer as Lee
Valley's at
> half the price.:)
And similarly, you must have recorded the manufacturer and make of that dead
blow hammer and then run over to LIVE to compare it to their model.
I'm finished with this thread. You're a liar without ever offering a shred
of proof to back up your claims. If you were genuine with your claims, then
we'd see pictures and product comparisons with proof of purchase to back it
up. Instead, all you ever offer is hyperbole without fact. That fact that
you liking being the pariah of this group only backs that up further.
Reply as you will, I won't see it. You're filtered.
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> SPCA. Over $600 cash this year.
> Over $5000 in the last ten years.
Prove it. I don't believe you. Let's see scanned copies of the money you've
donated.
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > It might not make any difference, but you could forward his message to
> > [email protected]
>
> Naah, just being an idiot isn't a violation of the TOS or AUP for pretty
> much any ISP. In fact, some of them rely on their customers being so,
> or they'd be broke.
Maybe not for his ISP, what about the charter for this newsgroup? He curses
and swears here at will, although many other people do too including myself,
but I've never once seen him contribute a URL to a product, give a
suggestion as to how to do something woodworking related or even how make
something. In effect, he's never once contributed anything worthwhile to
this newsgroup. That's contrary to all news group charters. If enough people
complain, easynews will at least look at it.
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:53:14 -0500, Paul Kierstead <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> >Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually
sent a
> >> >fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the
greatest.
> >> >Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from
the
> >> >hurricane...
> >> >
> >> In other words to crooked American companies and their paid war lords
who
> >> completely control Haiti.
> >> Wonderful.:(
> >> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home 'islostonyou.
> >
> >Oh for gods sake, they gave money to people in need, which is more then
> >most people and corporations do. Who did you give your last donation to?
> >
> SPCA. Over $600 cash this year.
> Over $5000 in the last ten years.
> Time donated at $10 an hour = at least $20,000 over the same time.
> I know it's not the same as helping crooked American companies in Haiti
but...
>
> How about you?
You're typing bullshit
"BMR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
> it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
>
< snip>
Hi - I think the seller's a few decades early...:)
We have kept an archive of multiple pristine copies of every catalogue since
the first in 1978 ... a full set would be 3-4 feet wide at least. Someday,
we WILL put a set up for auction.... proceeds to charity, most likely...
Cheers -
Rob
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> SPCA. Over $600 cash this year.
> Over $5000 in the last ten years.
> Time donated at $10 an hour = at least $20,000 over the same time.
> I know it's not the same as helping crooked American companies in Haiti
> but...
And we should believe YOU with no proof?
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:15:01 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>><snip>
>>> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
>><snip>
>>
>>I guess you live in a dog house???
>>
> Actually I specialize in finding homes for pets of the elderly and the
> handicapped.
> I'm a liaison between them and the new owner.
> When seniors have to give up a pet due to moving into a facility, or
> just because they can't afford to care for it any longer it is
> extremely stressful. Old folks have died from the stress of losing a
> pet, or almost as bad sink into deep depression.
>
> What I do is try to place the pet in a home where the new owner is
> willing to share the pet. Allowing the senior to either visit or
> taking the pet to the senor. I spend most of my volunteer time
> bringing our elderly citizens and animals together.
> There are far too many lonely seniors who due to no pet rules can't
> even have a bird or even a fish. It very sad and very unfair. We are
> working to change the laws relaxing these rules for seniors.
>
> Of course this wouldn't be something that would interest you Rob. Very
> few seniors in homes buy Lee Valley tools.
>
PLONK!! goes the troll....
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
> Rob Lee isn't his dad.
Nope - I'm not my mother either. Is that different from the make-up of your
nuclear family?
> He doesn't strike me as the 'giving' type period!
No reason I should - my personal donations are just that - personal. They're
not made for publicity.
> I could be wrong but I don't believe a word he posts in this news group
without
> proof.
Good point. Perhaps I should post scanned copies of my personal and
corporate tax returns for examination by any anonymous twit.... Gosh - how
could I have overlooked that....
<snip>
Cheers -
Rob
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:09:03 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Really? You must have been in there really recently if you're comparing
>their products to Lee Valley Tools current products?
LOL!
I've never even seen a Princess Auto Store from the outside let alone been in
one.
Or a Lee Valley either for that matter.
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:23:32 GMT, Michael Baglio <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:14:44 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
><snip>
>
>Hey Robert, I guess this is late, but congratulations on your
>promotion! Geez, I didn't see any gray smoke or anything...
>
>Good luck with the pope thing. Say hi to all of our art.
>
Bless you my son.
As a Canadian pope my first order of business will be to sell that old crap on
Ebay and replace it with works by the Group of Seven.
"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> <snip>
> > I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
> <snip>
>
> I guess you live in a dog house???
Ya know, I had him well "plonked" until you all started quoting his drivel.
No offence Robin, you've shown remarkable restraint.
--
Nahmie
The law of intelligent tinkering: save all the parts.
"Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Thanks for the comments - I'll ensure that the designers and photographers
> see your note, they're not often on the receiving end of comments from the
> public....
Yeah -- tell them this is the first *hardware* catalog that ever went into
the night stand drawer by the bed. Next to the - oh, never mind...
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 15 Nov 2004 19:12:05 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Local volunteer fire department and (2) ambulance services for the last
> >decade+.
>
> Just an excuse to party and get drunk every week with the guys.
>
> At a hotel fire in my area a while back even the Fire Chief showed up
drunk. One
> person died as a result.
> He's still Chief and still a drunk.
> No one else wants the job.
Lol, good story, too bad it's not true.
A volunteer firefighter rates far higher than a useless donator to spca
anyway.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:39:28 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"BMR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
>> it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
>>
>
>< snip>
>
>Hi - I think the seller's a few decades early...:)
>
>We have kept an archive of multiple pristine copies of every catalogue since
>the first in 1978 ... a full set would be 3-4 feet wide at least. Someday,
>we WILL put a set up for auction.... proceeds to charity, most likely...
>
Almost certainly an American charity.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:06:38 -0500, Village Idiot in Training "Upscale"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Your'e not bright enough to be a full fledged Village Idiot.
>You're really not too bright are you? For all your sniping and cursing here
>at Lee Valley Tools, all you're effectively done is advertise how good they
>are.
I never said they weren't good.
I've been a customer for years and will for many more.
I buy all my blades and sanding supplies from Lee Valley.
In fact almost all my shop consumables come from Lee Valley.
Stains, dyes, glues, etc, etc.
A big chunk of my garden supplies as well.
Half of my Christmas gifts for the past 3 years as well. The other half comes
from Futureshop and Marks.
I'm an online shopper, I rarely visit stores.
Lee Valley has excellent customer service as well, but IMO they're ripping off
Canadian customers on the price of their tools.:)
Clear now dumbass. I've only said it a dozen times or more
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:01:31 GMT, Robert <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > flame away.
> > If you want to correct your rude behavior we can put an end to this.
> > Or not.<g>
> > Your choice.
>
> The funny thing is, that there's only one rude person in this thread,
> and it's not Robin. If you have a mirror, I bet you could find him.
>
Nah there's not enough light that fart up his butt to make a reflection.
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robin Lee wrote:
>
> > "BMR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
> > > it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
> > >
> >
> > < snip>
> >
> > Hi - I think the seller's a few decades early...:)
> >
> > We have kept an archive of multiple pristine copies of every catalogue
since
> > the first in 1978 ... a full set would be 3-4 feet wide at least.
Someday,
> > we WILL put a set up for auction.... proceeds to charity, most likely...
> >
> > Cheers -
> >
> > Rob
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> My compliments to you and your staff responsible for the latest
hardware
> catalog. The photography and layout is superb. I thought it was only the
old
> Garret Wade catalogs were that nicely done.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
Hi Jack -
Thanks for the comments - I'll ensure that the designers and photographers
see your note, they're not often on the receiving end of comments from the
public....
Cheers -
Rob
On 16 Nov 2004 16:08:33 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:14:41 GMT, Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's where my LV hardware catalog is too :O)
>
>Heh. You guys need to check out the Garrett Wade tool catalog. The
>ultimate in tool porn.
>
>Dave
Only if you like your porn crossed with "Good Housekeeping". They've
gotten so damn yuppie in recent years, what with page after page of
garden gadgets, kitchen stuff, etc., that it's kinda hard to take.
The days of the insanely expensive tools of incredible quality are
pretty much gone, alas.
--RC
Sleep? Isn't that a totally inadequate substitute for caffine?
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:46:57 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Liar.
>> Clamps at Princess Auto.
>
>Only you would consider that cheap ass place as a supplier of quality
>woodworking tools.
LOL!
Who said they were quality, I said they were cheap.
>If you were in any way skilled as a woodworker, you'd
>have graduated from that cut rate store a long time ago.
They were the first purchase I ever made from Princess Auto and probably my
last. For clamping trim on desktops they are perfect. I don't have any other use
for 60" clamps.
I'm actually a carver and box maker, not a furniture maker.:)
Although Princess Auto do have the identical dead blow hammer as Lee Valley's at
half the price.:)
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> On 16 Nov 2004 16:08:33 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:14:41 GMT, Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> That's where my LV hardware catalog is too :O)
> >
> >Heh. You guys need to check out the Garrett Wade tool catalog. The
> >ultimate in tool porn.
> >
> >Dave
>
> Only if you like your porn crossed with "Good Housekeeping". They've
> gotten so damn yuppie in recent years, what with page after page of
> garden gadgets, kitchen stuff, etc., that it's kinda hard to take.
>
> The days of the insanely expensive tools of incredible quality are
> pretty much gone, alas.
>
> --RC
>
> Sleep? Isn't that a totally inadequate substitute for caffine?
>
Yes it sure is sad. I ran across a Garrett Wade catalog from about 20
years ago and it was pretty amazing. Not only a wide range of actual
tools, but also several sections of detailed advice about e.g. how to
choose a bench, plane, chisels, etc. They also had the biggest selection
of Henry Taylor carving tools I've ever seen in the US. Too bad they
couldn't keep up that standard of quality for woodworkers. SWMBO thinks
I did my part to keep them going.
David
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 03:47:22 GMT, "Robert"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>Really? You must have been in there really recently if you're comparing
>>their products to Lee Valley Tools current products?
>LOL!
>I've never even seen a Princess Auto Store from the outside let alone been in
>one. Or a Lee Valley either for that matter.
So the basis for all your "clamp" complaints against Lee Valley Tools
lies only with online or catalogue pictures you've seen?
As you've admitted, Princess Auto is a low end dealer. Heaven forbid
that Princess Auto might not use a picture of a high quality clamp to
promote some of their cheap clamps.
What kind of gullible, flaming idiot are you?
"Dave jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:BI9md.17759
> Good grief, will this ever end?
It might not make any difference, but you could forward his message to
[email protected]
On 17 Nov 2004 07:42:34 -0800, [email protected] (David Hall) wrote:
>Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message news:<161120040708103134%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca>...
>> In article <[email protected]>, SweetNothing
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > So the basis for all your "clamp" complaints against Lee Valley Tools
>> > lies only with online or catalogue pictures you've seen?
>>
>> If you compare the headers of the post you're rprlying to with the
>> headers from other posts by "Robert" I think you'll find someone is now
>> forging his address to try to keep this shit storm flowing.
>>
>> Standard Advice:
>> -- Ignore
>> -- Filter
>> -- Help others to do the same
>
>If people wouldn't quote him, those reading through Google would never
>have to see him. It seems he has done us a favor and self-filtered
>himself out of Google
You're welcome!
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:33:13 GMT, Robert <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I could be wrong but I don't believe a word he posts in this news group without
>proof.
>So far he has been long on posting, short on facts regarding his pricing policy
>in Canada.
I disagree with you. I posted an explanation on the exchange rate issue
and he confirmed it rather directly.
Robert wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2004 19:12:05 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Local volunteer fire department and (2) ambulance services for the last
>>decade+.
>
>
> Just an excuse to party and get drunk every week with the guys.
>
> At a hotel fire in my area
...and, just where is 'your area'...?
a while back even the Fire Chief showed up drunk. One
> person died as a result.
Any facts to support this claim, or is this just more drivel?
> He's still Chief and still a drunk.
> No one else wants the job.
"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snip>
> Ya know, I had him well "plonked" until you all started quoting his
drivel.
> No offence Robin, you've shown remarkable restraint.
>
> --
> Nahmie
> The law of intelligent tinkering: save all the parts.
Hi -
You're right - sorry 'bout that....guess I'd better get back to pillaging
full-time, fun as this is....
Cheers -
Rob
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:24:57 -0500, Village Idiot
<[email protected]> wrote:
>See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
>it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
>
>Maybe the resident LV pricing policy troll will prefer those prices.
>:*)
>
>Note to troll - less $$ for LV means less R&D spent on developing new
>tools.
Note to Village Idiot.
Why should Canadians pay more than Americans for the same Lee Valley R&D?
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 04:14:23 -0500, SweetNothing <[email protected]>
wrote:
(re robert)
>
>What kind of gullible, flaming idiot are you?
>
he's a troll. just filter him out and move along, willya?
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 04:14:23 -0500, Village Idiot in Training SweetNothing
<[email protected]> wrote:
>So the basis for all your "clamp" complaints against Lee Valley Tools
>lies only with online or catalogue pictures you've seen?
Ummm, no.
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:28:05 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >but I've never once seen him contribute a URL to a product
>
> Liar.
> Clamps at Princess Auto.
Only you would consider that cheap ass place as a supplier of quality
woodworking tools. If you were in any way skilled as a woodworker, you'd
have graduated from that cut rate store a long time ago.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:15:01 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
><snip>
>> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
><snip>
>
>I guess you live in a dog house???
>
Actually I specialize in finding homes for pets of the elderly and the
handicapped.
I'm a liaison between them and the new owner.
When seniors have to give up a pet due to moving into a facility, or just
because they can't afford to care for it any longer it is extremely stressful.
Old folks have died from the stress of losing a pet, or almost as bad sink into
deep depression.
What I do is try to place the pet in a home where the new owner is willing to
share the pet. Allowing the senior to either visit or taking the pet to the
senor. I spend most of my volunteer time bringing our elderly citizens and
animals together.
There are far too many lonely seniors who due to no pet rules can't even have a
bird or even a fish. It very sad and very unfair. We are working to change the
laws relaxing these rules for seniors.
Of course this wouldn't be something that would interest you Rob. Very few
seniors in homes buy Lee Valley tools.
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:39:28 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"BMR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
> >> it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
> >>
> >
> >< snip>
> >
> >Hi - I think the seller's a few decades early...:)
> >
> >We have kept an archive of multiple pristine copies of every catalogue
since
> >the first in 1978 ... a full set would be 3-4 feet wide at least.
Someday,
> >we WILL put a set up for auction.... proceeds to charity, most likely...
> >
> Almost certainly an American charity.
Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually sent a
fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the greatest.
Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from the
hurricane...
Thanks for your interest though.....
Cheers -
Rob
Dave Hinz did say:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:09:43 -0500, Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Dave jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:BI9md.17759
>>> Good grief, will this ever end?
>>
>> It might not make any difference, but you could forward his message to
>> [email protected]
>
> Naah, just being an idiot isn't a violation of the TOS or AUP for pretty
> much any ISP. In fact, some of them rely on their customers being so,
> or they'd be broke.
And you must admit the OP was taunting him. I wouldn't blame this thread
on Robert.
--
New project = new tool. Hard and fast rule.
In article <[email protected]>,
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually sent a
> >fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the greatest.
> >Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from the
> >hurricane...
> >
> In other words to crooked American companies and their paid war lords who
> completely control Haiti.
> Wonderful.:(
> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
Oh for gods sake, they gave money to people in need, which is more then
most people and corporations do. Who did you give your last donation to?
Oh to hell with it, just go fuck yourself. People such as you, who would
reduce a charitable donation to such dribble, ought to be tossed out of
society and are intolerable.
On 15 Nov 2004 22:03:22 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:01:31 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>> flame away.
>> If you want to correct your rude behavior we can put an end to this.
>> Or not.<g>
>> Your choice.
>
>The funny thing is, that there's only one rude person in this thread,
>and it's not Robin.
That's true.
Robin acted the perfect usenet asshole in completely different thread.:)
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:14:44 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
<snip>
Hey Robert, I guess this is late, but congratulations on your
promotion! Geez, I didn't see any gray smoke or anything...
Good luck with the pope thing. Say hi to all of our art.
Michael Baglio
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:45:09 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:39:28 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"BMR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> See e-bay item # 3853061500 for a mint catalog from 2001-2002. (No
>> >> it's not mine, although I probably have one tucked away somewhere.)
>> >>
>> >
>> >< snip>
>> >
>> >Hi - I think the seller's a few decades early...:)
>> >
>> >We have kept an archive of multiple pristine copies of every catalogue
>since
>> >the first in 1978 ... a full set would be 3-4 feet wide at least.
>Someday,
>> >we WILL put a set up for auction.... proceeds to charity, most likely...
>> >
>> Almost certainly an American charity.
>
>Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually sent a
>fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the greatest.
>Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from the
>hurricane...
>
In other words to crooked American companies and their paid war lords who
completely control Haiti.
Wonderful.:(
I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
We have a few native peoples up north in this country in desperate need of help
right now but I guess they don't buy too many Lee Valley tools.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:28:05 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>but I've never once seen him contribute a URL to a product
Liar.
Clamps at Princess Auto.
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:29:17 GMT, Tom Veatch <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm seeing indications in your posts that "Robert" is beginning to get under
>your skin.
Under Robin's skin?
LOL that is true, but check out poor Upscale, he's down right suicidal!
If you are going to start a flame war on usenet as both Robin and Upscale did,
make sure you have the balls and the mental stability to take it as well.
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:15:40 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Good for you Robert...really.
>
>And this purported activity justifies hiding behind an anonymous remailer,
>acting like a roseate sphincter, and spewing obnoxious tripe.. how?
>
>Eaton's probably went under just to get rid of you.....
>
>Later dude.
Robin,
I'm seeing indications in your posts that "Robert" is beginning to get under
your skin. Perfectly understandable since even silk will wear a blister if it
rubs long enough. And "Robert" strikes me as being closer to the "sandpaper" end
of the Silk to Sandpaper spectrum.
You might want to step away from the fray before the frustration leads you to
something even more uncharacteristic. Although it would probably be greatly
satisfying to squash him, from what I've seen, most of the folks here, Canadian
or US, aren't being swayed by "Robert".
BTW, I think your catalogs should be mailed in a "plain brown wrapper".
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA
On 15 Nov 2004 18:17:17 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:17:36 GMT, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:45:09 -0500, "Robin Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Not "certainly" - but definitely in proportion to sales. We actually sent a
>>>fair amount outside North America too...wherever the need is the greatest.
>>>Last large donation actually went to Haiti after the devastion from the
>>>hurricane...
>>>
>> In other words to crooked American companies and their paid war lords who
>> completely control Haiti.
>> Wonderful.:(
>> I guess the term 'Charity begins at home' is lost on you.
>> We have a few native peoples up north in this country in desperate need of help
>> right now but I guess they don't buy too many Lee Valley tools.
>
>Wow, Robert, you're really over the top on this, you know that? It's
>like your _obsessed_. Robin sends money to someone who needs it
LOL!
You actually believe him?
You're dumber than I thought.
On 15 Nov 2004 23:18:31 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>Naah, just being an idiot isn't a violation of the TOS or AUP for pretty
>much any ISP. In fact, some of them rely on their customers being so,
>or they'd be broke.
I was actually finding him entertaining, in a village idiot sort of
way. For some reason, I picture him drooling all over himself as he
types.
Folks like him congregate on ham radio groups and mailing lists. A
helpful business owner would participate in the group, and some 'net
stalker would lose his mind over the person.
Rob has definitely reached the big time now. <G>
Barry
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:09:43 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Dave jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:BI9md.17759
>> Good grief, will this ever end?
>
>It might not make any difference, but you could forward his message to
>[email protected]
>
The topic of over priced woodworking tools is on topic for this group.