Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>
>> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
>> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
>> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
>> water he could fucking stand up in???
>>
>> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>>
>> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>>
>
>Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
>did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
>should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water. .
USA! USA! USA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRBpnNcO_kY
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgU5MBWXEAACt5I.jpg
On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 10:53:59 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 19:17:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 8:51:10 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
> >> On 21 Apr 2016 16:31:30 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
> >> >
> >> >> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
> >> >> legit
> >> >
> >> >It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
> >> >terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
> >> >or 60s.
> >>
> >> I was in Detroit a year, or so, ago after torrential rain. The
> >> Interstate underpasses were filled right up to the bottom of the
> >> bridges. Wasn't happy about driving local Detroit streets from the
> >> airport out to the burbs at midnight but getting real wet wasn't a
> >> good idea either.
> >
> >I drove through a slightly flooded underpass a few years back. The water
> >was deep enough to do this:
> >
> >http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/hydroplaning-1.jpg
> >
> >We had the AC on and the windows rolled up. The lady in the oncoming lane
> >did not.
> I've been on a few roads where the only way to get throgh was to take
> off the fanbelt and go slow. Leave the belt on, and you were
> GUARANTEED to flood out too fast and the front would rise on the bow
> wave and you were off the side and into the ditch.
I can hear kids everywhere asking "What's a fan belt? Why didn't you just
pull the fuse?"
I used to keep a pair of vice-grips under the seat of my 66 lay-down Rambler.
If I accelerated too hard while turning, the motor would shift causing the
fan to hit the shroud. The tips would bend over and contact the radiator
causing a hell of a racket. I'd have to pull over and bend the tips back.
I still miss that car. You seem to miss your first love the most.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/c9/64/23c9644d8fb1efe05428da7c974b16fe.jpg
J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 10:37:07 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> Typical Big Government thinking.
>>>
>>> How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a
>>> crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
>>
>> I am sure that on the path I am on now I will get as bitter and cynical,
>> full of venom for those I deem and "idiot".
>>
>> Not there yet. Most of the folks they rescue these days (high water
>> rescues here are quite rare these days) no doubt have no valid reason,
>> but I can understand it somewhat.
>>
>> An 85 year old woman driving home went around a barricade that she
>> mistook for a "pothole marker" which a single barricade is often used to
>> mark. She got in about 4 inches of water and panicked, stopped, and
>> called 911. When the rescue team got there, the water was about 6
>> inches deep so they walked out on safety ropes and carried her to
>> safety. Did she deserved help or deserve to die? I know your answer!
>
> No you don't.
>
> My view is that if government offers a service then the service should
> be free to all in need. If the government can't afford to offer the
> service then the solution is to not offer the services, not start
> billing the people who use it.
>
No doubt people like you are the ones responsible for our government
being umpteen ,000,000,000,000,000 dollars in debt.
>
>
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
> [email protected]:
>
>> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>>
>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
>>
>>
>
> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
> started!
>
> Puckdropper
>
Boeshield does not even work on our humidity. :-(
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> Leon <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:1349091769.482731555.376111.lcb11211-swbell.net@news.giganews.com:
>
>> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
>>> [email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>>>>
>>>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>>>>
>>>> https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
>>> started!
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>>
>>
>> Boeshield does not even work on our humidity. :-(
>>
>
> What are you using? I thought Boeshield was what worked in Texas.
>
> Puckdropper
>
For many years I used Topcote made by Empire. They sold to Bostick and
while not as good as the original I use that today. 16 years ago I tried
Boeshield on a new saw and the next morning had rust and I had not yet used
the saw.
Fwiw the original Topcote was made to made the TS surface slick and it did
a very good job at that. I noticed that as an additional benefit that it
prevented rust. The current version is more focused on preventing rust
and IIRC not making the top slick.
I found that to make Boeshield work I had to put on enough that it had to
be wiped off before use, every day. Topcoat is specifically made for tool
surfaces and a good heavy coating can last for months before rust begins to
show. YMMV.
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 10:56:35 AM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
>
>> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>
>>> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>>
>
> LOL. I saw that on TV. At the 1:10-1:15 mark, those rescuers should
> have told him, "Go back! Go back! You forgot to turn off your windshield wippers."
>
> Sonny
>
Believe it or not the reporter that stuck the mike in the guy's face before
getting to his feet is being called a hero for saving the idiot's life.
Never let the actual facts get in the way of the opportunity to tell a good
story.
Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>
>> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
>> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
>> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
>> water he could fucking stand up in???
>>
>> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>>
>> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>>
>
> Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
> did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
> should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water. .
>
> Not only does he have a graduate degree, given his age he is probably
> teaching the younger generation to be just like him. It would be funny
> if it was not so sad.
>
Probably a college professor.
John McCoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:1406661557.482762665.188345.lcb11211-swbell.net@news.giganews.com:
>
>> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>> Leon <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:1349091769.482731555.376111.lcb11211-
> [email protected]
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
>>>>> [email protected]:
>>>>
>>>> Boeshield does not even work on our humidity. :-(
>>>>
>>>
>>> What are you using? I thought Boeshield was what worked in Texas.
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>>
>>
>> For many years I used Topcote made by Empire. They sold to Bostick
>> and while not as good as the original I use that today. 16 years ago
>> I tried Boeshield on a new saw and the next morning had rust and I had
>> not yet used the saw.
>>
>> Fwiw the original Topcote was made to made the TS surface slick and it
>> did a very good job at that. I noticed that as an additional benefit
>> that it prevented rust. The current version is more focused on
>> preventing rust and IIRC not making the top slick.
>>
>> I found that to make Boeshield work I had to put on enough that it had
>> to be wiped off before use, every day. Topcoat is specifically made
>> for tool surfaces and a good heavy coating can last for months before
>> rust begins to show. YMMV.
>
> Well, that's worth knowing. Humidity's even worse here at
> the pointy end of Fla, I'll have to give Topcote a try.
>
> John
>
>
A good rule of thumb that I use is to put o 2-3 coats initially. Let it
glaze over between coats so that you can see your coverage. After that I
mostly rely on the feel of the wood sliding on the surface to signal the
need for another coat. I never get rust from humidity but salty sweat will
get you so I try to not touch the surface unless my hands are dry. If I am
leaning on the top, like when changing blades I make sure to dry where my
sweaty arms or hands touched.
Keep in mind that my TS is not a show piece so a perfect looking top is
not my goal so much as keeping rust to an absolute minimum. If I do get a
spot of rust I buff the spot with steel wool and spot treat with Topcote.
Nothing is fool proof but Topcote is my preferred preventative. It does
not affect wood finishes.
On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 11:35:13 PM UTC-5, Martin Eastburn wrote:
=20
> As a retired and 50 year old Geo my maps show Quaternary soil there.
> That means the fifty miles or less from the coast can come and go
> at the will of time. It isn't permanent soil yet.=20
They don't got no topsoil, anymore, hardly. It's mostly concrete.
Many southern cities have, similarly, paved over large areas, hence less an=
d less water-absorbing green areas, contributing to surface run-off, floodi=
ng, this way. =20
Our genius city engineers don't know how to properly concrete a coulee/drai=
nage ditch, either. The fairly-recently-concreted coulee, next to my shop=
, has the slope pointing down, by 1 foot over 200 yards length, as it goes =
upstream.... which is suppose to drain the Ambassador Caffree Parkway (5 la=
ne), but they screwed up the parkway leveling/slope, as well, so everything=
, there, is under water (road closure), often, even with a moderate rain.
The above is not our only example of poor city-drainage engineering.
Sonny
Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Saw a guy drive into the water and started to get out the passenger
> door. He got out and started to swim to the side of the freeway.
> News man helped him the last bit. His car by then just went under -
> it was on the ground, the water just rose 3' while he was moving away!
Actually he was on a street under pass leading to a freeway entrance
intersection. He jumped out of his floating car, after opening the
passenger door the car sank. The water did not rise that fast.
>
> Houston is rather flat and has trouble in ridding itself of water.
> If rivers bring more than can easily flow to the ocean, it stacks up.
We have about 8-9 bayous, the name native Indians called rivers. This
would happen anywhere that receives 10-15 inches of rain in a 5-10 hour
period. In 2001 during TS Allson we received 35 inches in one weekend.
>
> As a retired and 50 year old Geo my maps show Quaternary soil there.
> That means the fifty miles or less from the coast can come and go
> at the will of time. It isn't permanent soil yet. Mostly marsh and
> waterways. Building used fill and piles to make inland islands and
> created a stable city. Floods are just something that happen. Some
> are 200 or 400 year flood. To me it is still water on my feet.
>
> When living in the Austin area we had 2, 4, 6 and 8oo year floods in
> one year. 17" in my backyard one night. This was in the early 80's.
>
> If a low or a pair of lows (like now) get pulling water off the gulf
> the water goes somewhere. The worst is when you have rivers that are
> being rained upon along their entire length of several hundred miles.
> That really dives water down to the coast. Dams might have been
> dumping early to keep control. Most of our dams are full.
>
> Martin
>
> On 4/18/2016 10:01 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 4/18/2016 6:08 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>>>
>>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Glad to see you still can joke about it.
>> Then you must not have had to bail out.
>>
>
Saw a guy drive into the water and started to get out the passenger
door. He got out and started to swim to the side of the freeway.
News man helped him the last bit. His car by then just went under -
it was on the ground, the water just rose 3' while he was moving away!
Houston is rather flat and has trouble in ridding itself of water.
If rivers bring more than can easily flow to the ocean, it stacks up.
As a retired and 50 year old Geo my maps show Quaternary soil there.
That means the fifty miles or less from the coast can come and go
at the will of time. It isn't permanent soil yet. Mostly marsh and
waterways. Building used fill and piles to make inland islands and
created a stable city. Floods are just something that happen. Some
are 200 or 400 year flood. To me it is still water on my feet.
When living in the Austin area we had 2, 4, 6 and 8oo year floods in
one year. 17" in my backyard one night. This was in the early 80's.
If a low or a pair of lows (like now) get pulling water off the gulf
the water goes somewhere. The worst is when you have rivers that are
being rained upon along their entire length of several hundred miles.
That really dives water down to the coast. Dams might have been
dumping early to keep control. Most of our dams are full.
Martin
On 4/18/2016 10:01 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/18/2016 6:08 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>>
>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
>>
>>
>
> Glad to see you still can joke about it.
> Then you must not have had to bail out.
>
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:23:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
>> > liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
>> > wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
>> > water he could fucking stand up in???
>> >
>> > Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>> >
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>> >
>> > ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>> > missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>> >
>>
>> Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
>> did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
>> should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water.
>
>pssst...it's a Honda. Suing Toyota won't help. ;-)
Given the intelligence of the average jury, don't count on it.
>
On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 5:52:10 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>
> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
> started!
>
> Puckdropper
He puts it on his pirogue, instead.
Sonny
On 21 Apr 2016 16:31:30 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>
>> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
>> legit
>
>It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
>terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
>or 60s.
I was in Detroit a year, or so, ago after torrential rain. The
Interstate underpasses were filled right up to the bottom of the
bridges. Wasn't happy about driving local Detroit streets from the
airport out to the burbs at midnight but getting real wet wasn't a
good idea either.
On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
=20
> How about he's an idiot for driving into that water in the first place...
BINGO! We have a winner!
Here in sunny San Antonio we don't get the weather they do in Houston (read=
: flooding)except on occasion. When we do, tragedy strikes. San Antonio i=
s an old city that sprawled wildly until the 80s, when the engineers got se=
rious about our flooding problems. We didn't have that many until all the =
open spaces started to fill with apartments, mini malls, townhomes, 10 hous=
e subdivisions, etc. So they are working to correct all of that, but some =
issues such as the dozens of creeks that are also roadbeds that flood const=
antly will never be fixed.
However, we have a solution that came into play about 20 years ago. Drive =
around a barricade, and you get a big fine. That didn't slow folks down mu=
ch, so now you can get up to $2500 in fines for going around a barricade, e=
ven if there is no water on the road. (The barricade regardless of water c=
ame into play after cars were washed off the road by a flood wave while cro=
ssing.)
Since that didn't prevent all the offenders, as witnessed by the numbers of=
high water rescues, another solution was unanimously passed by City Counci=
l. If you go around a barricade you will get the fine; but if a high water=
rescue is required you will pay for all the equipment the city deems neces=
sary to save your dumb ass. One of our citizens decided he was wronged by =
this, and took to the local news. Sure he said, he was wrong and would pay=
the $2500 fine without complaining. But the cost of two police cars, a ho=
ok and ladder truck to extend out to him and the ambulance to treat him for=
exposure after they literally fished him out of the water came to about $1=
6,000 (with his fine).
The fireman wouldn't back off and I don't blame them. The chief said "why =
should I risk the life of my men and women to save people that are willingl=
y breaking the law for their own convenience? The least these people can d=
o is pay for the privilege of having their lives saved since they ignored c=
ommon sense and the law". Here's the fun part. If you don't pay or make a=
rrangements to pay, they will issue a warrant and arrest your dumb ass!
A couple more of those happened, and believe it or not, we just don't seem =
to have any high water rescues anymore. A few here and there, but it is a =
kick to see some giant 4 wheel drive monster sitting up a foot and a half t=
urn around because barricades are out on a road that has about an inch of w=
ater flowing across it.
Robert
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
[email protected]:
> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>
>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
>
>
I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
started!
Puckdropper
Leon <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1349091769.482731555.376111.lcb11211-swbell.net@news.giganews.com:
> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>>>
>>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
>> started!
>>
>> Puckdropper
>>
>
> Boeshield does not even work on our humidity. :-(
>
What are you using? I thought Boeshield was what worked in Texas.
Puckdropper
Spalted Walt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
>>> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
>>> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
>>> water he could fucking stand up in???
>>>
>>> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>>>
>>> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>>> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>>>
>>
>> Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
>> did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
>> should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water. .
>
> USA! USA! USA!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRBpnNcO_kY
And still friendlier to the environment than the green cars from build to
wrecking yard.
>
>
>
On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 6:41:14 PM UTC-4, John McCoy wrote:
> DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > I used to keep a pair of vice-grips under the seat of my 66 lay-down
> > Rambler. If I accelerated too hard while turning, the motor would
> > shift causing the fan to hit the shroud. The tips would bend over and
> > contact the radiator causing a hell of a racket. I'd have to pull over
> > and bend the tips back.
> >
> > I still miss that car. You seem to miss your first love the most.
>
> That flexibility must have been an AMC thing. My buddy's
> 360 AMX would flex the chassis under hard acceleration too,
> altho in his case it tended to break the transmission rather
> than simply bend the fan (oddly, as far as I know his 390
> AMX did not flex, even tho it had quite a bit more power).
>
> John
There was a lot of AMC "things". ;-)
Actually, I'm pretty sure mine was a motor mount issue.
Some AMC cars ran the wipers with the vacuum. They used a vacuum
booster set-up on top of the fuel pump to increase the vacuum under
acceleration. My booster pump started leaking so I bypassed it
and hooked the lines to/from the pump together. So what if the wipers
stopped when you were accelerating onto a highway? Lift your foot, get
a wipe, put your foot back down. Repeat as required.
notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>
>> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
>> legit
>
> It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
> terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
> or 60s.
>
> nb
>
2001, tropical storm Allison. The event lasted 2 weeks. 36" over one of
the weekends.
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> How about he's an idiot for driving into that water in the first place...
>
> BINGO! We have a winner!
>
> Here in sunny San Antonio we don't get the weather they do in Houston
> (read: flooding)except on occasion. When we do, tragedy strikes. San
> Antonio is an old city that sprawled wildly until the 80s, when the
> engineers got serious about our flooding problems. We didn't have that
> many until all the open spaces started to fill with apartments, mini
> malls, townhomes, 10 house subdivisions, etc. So they are working to
> correct all of that, but some issues such as the dozens of creeks that
> are also roadbeds that flood constantly will never be fixed.
>
> However, we have a solution that came into play about 20 years ago.
> Drive around a barricade, and you get a big fine. That didn't slow folks
> down much, so now you can get up to $2500 in fines for going around a
> barricade, even if there is no water on the road. (The barricade
> regardless of water came into play after cars were washed off the road by
> a flood wave while crossing.)
>
> Since that didn't prevent all the offenders, as witnessed by the numbers
> of high water rescues, another solution was unanimously passed by City
> Council. If you go around a barricade you will get the fine; but if a
> high water rescue is required you will pay for all the equipment the city
> deems necessary to save your dumb ass. One of our citizens decided he
> was wronged by this, and took to the local news. Sure he said, he was
> wrong and would pay the $2500 fine without complaining. But the cost of
> two police cars, a hook and ladder truck to extend out to him and the
> ambulance to treat him for exposure after they literally fished him out
> of the water came to about $16,000 (with his fine).
>
> The fireman wouldn't back off and I don't blame them. The chief said
> "why should I risk the life of my men and women to save people that are
> willingly breaking the law for their own convenience? The least these
> people can do is pay for the privilege of having their lives saved since
> they ignored common sense and the law". Here's the fun part. If you
> don't pay or make arrangements to pay, they will issue a warrant and arrest your dumb ass!
>
> A couple more of those happened, and believe it or not, we just don't
> seem to have any high water rescues anymore. A few here and there, but
> it is a kick to see some giant 4 wheel drive monster sitting up a foot
> and a half turn around because barricades are out on a road that has
> about an inch of water flowing across it.
>
> Robert
>
Sounds like a plan, But that preserves the idiots. How about if there is
a barricade and you go around it, you are on your own, period. Weed those
people out and you eliminate the possibility of those same people doing
something else that is stupid like running red lights.
On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:51:13 PM UTC-4, Mike Marlow wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> >
> > So here's the question:
> >
> > Is this guy an idiot even though he made it through or are you only an
> > idiot if you have to abandon your vehicle? ;-)
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLtUmQnP3IU
> >
>
> How about he's an idiot for driving into that water in the first place...
>
I'm good with that!
On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 8:51:10 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
> On 21 Apr 2016 16:31:30 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
> >
> >> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
> >> legit
> >
> >It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
> >terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
> >or 60s.
>
> I was in Detroit a year, or so, ago after torrential rain. The
> Interstate underpasses were filled right up to the bottom of the
> bridges. Wasn't happy about driving local Detroit streets from the
> airport out to the burbs at midnight but getting real wet wasn't a
> good idea either.
I drove through a slightly flooded underpass a few years back. The water
was deep enough to do this:
http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/hydroplaning-1.jpg
We had the AC on and the windows rolled up. The lady in the oncoming lane
did not.
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 18:25:29 -0000 (UTC), John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 5:52:10 PM UTC-5, [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the
>>> rain started!
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>
>> He puts it on his pirogue, instead.
>
>I read that as "perogie" first time past, and thought "ick".
I'm glad I'm not alone. ;-)
On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
> >
> > Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
> > liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
> > wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
> > water he could fucking stand up in???
> >
> > Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
> >
> > ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
> > missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
> >
>
> Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
> did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
> should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water.
pssst...it's a Honda. Suing Toyota won't help. ;-)
>
> Not only does he have a graduate degree, given his age he is probably
> teaching the younger generation to be just like him. It would be funny
> if it was not so sad.
On 4/20/2016 8:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:56:35 AM UTC-4, Swingman wrote:
>> On 4/19/2016 7:58 AM, Sonny wrote:
>>
>>> The above is not our only example of poor city-drainage engineering.
>>
>> What you get with poorly educated engineers, and a runaway government
>> whose employees are more interested in their pensions than doing what
>> they were hired to do.
>>
>> Our city dug all the streets down in the 90's and installed a 20 million
>> dollar storm drainage system at the same time, got sued by the Flood
>> Control District (another boondoggle, ripe with idiots educated beyond
>> their meager intelligence), who represented the residents to the South,
>> and were forced by the courts to install a 9' plug in the only outlet.
>>
>> Which played an instrumental part in me losing my home in 2001 ...
>>
>> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
>> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
>> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
>> water he could fucking stand up in???
>>
>> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>>
>> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>>
>
> So here's the question:
>
> Is this guy an idiot even though he made it through or are you only an
> idiot if you have to abandon your vehicle? ;-)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLtUmQnP3IU
>
Let's just say he was a hotdogging idiot.
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 15:07:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>
>> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
>> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
>> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
>> water he could fucking stand up in???
>>
>> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>>
>> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>>
>
>Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
>did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
>should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water. .
...and the tire company. How can you drive if the tires won't give
you any traction?!
>
>Not only does he have a graduate degree, given his age he is probably
>teaching the younger generation to be just like him. It would be funny
>if it was not so sad.
On 4/19/2016 7:58 AM, Sonny wrote:
> The above is not our only example of poor city-drainage engineering.
What you get with poorly educated engineers, and a runaway government
whose employees are more interested in their pensions than doing what
they were hired to do.
Our city dug all the streets down in the 90's and installed a 20 million
dollar storm drainage system at the same time, got sued by the Flood
Control District (another boondoggle, ripe with idiots educated beyond
their meager intelligence), who represented the residents to the South,
and were forced by the courts to install a 9' plug in the only outlet.
Which played an instrumental part in me losing my home in 2001 ...
Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
water he could fucking stand up in???
Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
> > How about he's an idiot for driving into that water in the first place...
>
> BINGO! We have a winner!
>
> Here in sunny San Antonio we don't get the weather they do in Houston (read: flooding)except on occasion. When we do, tragedy strikes. San Antonio is an old city that sprawled wildly until the 80s, when the engineers got serious about our flooding problems. We didn't have that many until all the open spaces started to fill with apartments, mini malls, townhomes, 10 house subdivisions, etc. So they are working to correct all of that, but some issues such as the
dozens of creeks that are also roadbeds that flood constantly will never be fixed.
>
> However, we have a solution that came into play about 20 years ago. Drive around a barricade, and you get a big fine. That didn't slow folks down much, so now you can get up to $2500 in fines for going around a barricade, even if there is no water on the road. (The barricade regardless of water came into play after cars were washed off the road by a flood wave while crossing.)
>
> Since that didn't prevent all the offenders, as witnessed by the numbers of high water rescues, another solution was unanimously passed by City Council. If you go around a barricade you will get the fine; but if a high water rescue is required you will pay for all the equipment the city deems necessary to save your dumb ass. One of our citizens decided he was wronged by this, and took to the local news. Sure he said, he was wrong and would pay the $2500 fine without
complaining. But the cost of two police cars, a hook and ladder truck to extend out to him and the ambulance to treat him for exposure after they literally fished him out of the water came to about $16,000 (with his fine).
>
> The fireman wouldn't back off and I don't blame them. The chief said "why should I risk the life of my men and women to save people that are willingly breaking the law for their own convenience? The least these people can do is pay for the privilege of having their lives saved since they ignored common sense and the law". Here's the fun part. If you don't pay or make arrangements to pay, they will issue a warrant and arrest your dumb ass!
>
> A couple more of those happened, and believe it or not, we just don't seem to have any high water rescues anymore. A few here and there, but it is a kick to see some giant 4 wheel drive monster sitting up a foot and a half turn around because barricades are out on a road that has about an inch of water flowing across it.
>
> Robert
Typical Big Government thinking.
How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a
crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 10:37:07 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>
> > Typical Big Government thinking.
> >
> > How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a
> > crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
>
> I am sure that on the path I am on now I will get as bitter and cynical, full of venom for those I deem and "idiot".
>
> Not there yet. Most of the folks they rescue these days (high water rescues here are quite rare these days) no doubt have no valid reason, but I can understand it somewhat.
>
> An 85 year old woman driving home went around a barricade that she mistook for a "pothole marker" which a single barricade is often used to mark. She got in about 4 inches of water and panicked, stopped, and called 911. When the rescue team got there, the water was about 6 inches deep so they walked out on safety ropes and carried her to safety. Did she deserved help or deserve to die? I know your answer!
No you don't.
My view is that if government offers a service then the service should
be free to all in need. If the government can't afford to offer the
service then the solution is to not offer the services, not start
billing the people who use it.
> We no longer have state controlled driver's licensing, so parents are tasked with finding a driver's school that will teach their kids to drive. The schools are licensed and are state approved for operation, but after that... only routine continuing education is required of these schools. A couple of years ago two girls, juniors in high school I believe, were going somewhere and the rain had stopped and the runoff was building up. They became stranded when their cute
little girl car was washed off the road by a wave about 10 inches high. It shoved it into a creek bed, and the passenger drowned. The driver said she didn't think about the danger since it had quit raining and the water on the road was just a couple of inches when the started across. Damn beginning drivers... should they be rescued for their bad judgement?
>
> No need to answer... I know, I know.
>
> > How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a
> > crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
>
> Poor judgement and lack of experience deserve to be punished.
>
> I wonder how you would feel if it had been your Mother/grandmother or daughter... hopefully you wouldn't move off your principles just because it was someone you knew! (Past tense)
>
> I love how you turn it to slam at Big Government. Classic.
>
> Robert
Leon <[email protected]> wrote in
news:1406661557.482762665.188345.lcb11211-swbell.net@news.giganews.com:
> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> Leon <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:1349091769.482731555.376111.lcb11211-
[email protected]
>> :
>>
>>> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
>>>> [email protected]:
>>>
>>> Boeshield does not even work on our humidity. :-(
>>>
>>
>> What are you using? I thought Boeshield was what worked in Texas.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>>
>
> For many years I used Topcote made by Empire. They sold to Bostick
> and while not as good as the original I use that today. 16 years ago
> I tried Boeshield on a new saw and the next morning had rust and I had
> not yet used the saw.
>
> Fwiw the original Topcote was made to made the TS surface slick and it
> did a very good job at that. I noticed that as an additional benefit
> that it prevented rust. The current version is more focused on
> preventing rust and IIRC not making the top slick.
>
> I found that to make Boeshield work I had to put on enough that it had
> to be wiped off before use, every day. Topcoat is specifically made
> for tool surfaces and a good heavy coating can last for months before
> rust begins to show. YMMV.
Well, that's worth knowing. Humidity's even worse here at
the pointy end of Fla, I'll have to give Topcote a try.
John
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 5:52:10 PM UTC-5, [email protected]
> wrote:
>>
>> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the
>> rain started!
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> He puts it on his pirogue, instead.
I read that as "perogie" first time past, and thought "ick".
John
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> A handful of years ago the city fathers here built a civic center. It
> is quite nice. It was also very expensive; I've heard figures ranging
> from 28 to 41 million. Now, the town was less tham 20,000 at the time
> so that works out to be somewhere between $1,400 to $2,000+ per
> person. EVERY person.
I'm sure they got a federal grant to pay for it, which means
all us taxpayers got to help out :-(
John
notbob <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>
>> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
>> legit
>
> It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
> terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
> or 60s.
I think you're thinking of Tropical Storm Claudette, in 1979.
42 inches of rain in 24hrs at Alvin TX (altho there's some
reason to doubt the exact accuracy of that number, it was
a lot of rain however you look at it).
John
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I used to keep a pair of vice-grips under the seat of my 66 lay-down
> Rambler. If I accelerated too hard while turning, the motor would
> shift causing the fan to hit the shroud. The tips would bend over and
> contact the radiator causing a hell of a racket. I'd have to pull over
> and bend the tips back.
>
> I still miss that car. You seem to miss your first love the most.
That flexibility must have been an AMC thing. My buddy's
360 AMX would flex the chassis under hard acceleration too,
altho in his case it tended to break the transmission rather
than simply bend the fan (oddly, as far as I know his 390
AMX did not flex, even tho it had quite a bit more power).
John
On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:56:35 AM UTC-4, Swingman wrote:
> On 4/19/2016 7:58 AM, Sonny wrote:
>
> > The above is not our only example of poor city-drainage engineering.
>
> What you get with poorly educated engineers, and a runaway government
> whose employees are more interested in their pensions than doing what
> they were hired to do.
>
> Our city dug all the streets down in the 90's and installed a 20 million
> dollar storm drainage system at the same time, got sued by the Flood
> Control District (another boondoggle, ripe with idiots educated beyond
> their meager intelligence), who represented the residents to the South,
> and were forced by the courts to install a 9' plug in the only outlet.
>
> Which played an instrumental part in me losing my home in 2001 ...
>
> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
> water he could fucking stand up in???
>
> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>
> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>
So here's the question:
Is this guy an idiot even though he made it through or are you only an
idiot if you have to abandon your vehicle? ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLtUmQnP3IU
On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 3:38:42 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 1:28:05 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:35:20 -0400
> > woodchucker wrote:
> >
> > > You guys in Houston, are you ok?
> >
> > most wood floats
> > nothing to worry about
>
> Natalie Wood doesn't (sic) float.
You do know that she didn't like to take showers, don't you?
On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
> > Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
> > liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
> > wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
> > water he could fucking stand up in???
> >
> > Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
> >
> > ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
> > missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>
> Tap Tap Tap...
>
> Excellent example on how far the US population has turned to crap...
>
> He should have been electrocuted in his Pious and done himself, and us,
> a favor.
It's an Insight. Kind of ironic, wouldn't you say?
On 18 Apr 2016 22:52:02 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
>[email protected]:
>
>> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>>
>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
>>
>>
>
>I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
>started!
Boeshield doesn't work under water. ;-)
On 4/19/2016 7:38 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 5:52:10 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
>> started!
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> He puts it on his pirogue, instead.
Hell ... it got me to the liquor store yesterday. ;)
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On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
> legit
It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
or 60s.
nb
On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 10:37:07 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> Typical Big Government thinking.
>=20
> How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a=20
> crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
I am sure that on the path I am on now I will get as bitter and cynical, fu=
ll of venom for those I deem and "idiot".
Not there yet. Most of the folks they rescue these days (high water rescue=
s here are quite rare these days) no doubt have no valid reason, but I can =
understand it somewhat.
An 85 year old woman driving home went around a barricade that she mistook =
for a "pothole marker" which a single barricade is often used to mark. She=
got in about 4 inches of water and panicked, stopped, and called 911. Whe=
n the rescue team got there, the water was about 6 inches deep so they walk=
ed out on safety ropes and carried her to safety. Did she deserved help or=
deserve to die? I know your answer!
We no longer have state controlled driver's licensing, so parents are taske=
d with finding a driver's school that will teach their kids to drive. The =
schools are licensed and are state approved for operation, but after that..=
. only routine continuing education is required of these schools. A couple=
of years ago two girls, juniors in high school I believe, were going somew=
here and the rain had stopped and the runoff was building up. They became =
stranded when their cute little girl car was washed off the road by a wave =
about 10 inches high. It shoved it into a creek bed, and the passenger dro=
wned. The driver said she didn't think about the danger since it had quit =
raining and the water on the road was just a couple of inches when the star=
ted across. Damn beginning drivers... should they be rescued for their bad=
judgement?
No need to answer... I know, I know.=20
> How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a
> crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
Poor judgement and lack of experience deserve to be punished.
I wonder how you would feel if it had been your Mother/grandmother or daugh=
ter... hopefully you wouldn't move off your principles just because it was=
someone you knew! (Past tense)
I love how you turn it to slam at Big Government. Classic.
Robert
On 4/19/2016 2:25 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> Sonny <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 5:52:10 PM UTC-5, [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the
>>> rain started!
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>
>> He puts it on his pirogue, instead.
>
> I read that as "perogie" first time past, and thought "ick".
>
> John
>
Same here.
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On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 10:56:35 AM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
> > ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>
LOL. I saw that on TV. At the 1:10-1:15 mark, those rescuers should have told him, "Go back! Go back! You forgot to turn off your windshield wippers."
Sonny
On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>
> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
https://goo.gl/photos/QPKtBgm7KqdWaw2HA
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:49:19 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 10:37:07 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> Typical Big Government thinking.
>>
>> How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a
>> crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
>
>I am sure that on the path I am on now I will get as bitter and cynical, full of venom for those I deem and "idiot".
>
>Not there yet. Most of the folks they rescue these days (high water rescues here are quite rare these days) no doubt have no valid reason, but I can understand it somewhat.
>
>An 85 year old woman driving home went around a barricade that she mistook for a "pothole marker" which a single barricade is often used to mark. She got in about 4 inches of water and panicked, stopped, and called 911. When the rescue team got there, the water was about 6 inches deep so they walked out on safety ropes and carried her to safety. Did she deserved help or deserve to die? I know your answer!
>
>We no longer have state controlled driver's licensing, so parents are tasked with finding a driver's school that will teach their kids to drive. The schools are licensed and are state approved for operation, but after that... only routine continuing education is required of these schools. A couple of years ago two girls, juniors in high school I believe, were going somewhere and the rain had stopped and the runoff was building up. They became stranded when their cute little girl car was washed off the road by a wave about 10 inches high. It shoved it into a creek bed, and the passenger drowned. The driver said she didn't think about the danger since it had quit raining and the water on the road was just a couple of inches when the started across. Damn beginning drivers... should they be rescued for their bad judgement?
>
>No need to answer... I know, I know.
>
>> How about "go around a barricade and get in trouble we don't give a
>> crap"? Why should the governmnent be doing _anything_ for the idiot?
>
>Poor judgement and lack of experience deserve to be punished.
>
>I wonder how you would feel if it had been your Mother/grandmother or daughter... hopefully you wouldn't move off your principles just because it was someone you knew! (Past tense)
>
>I love how you turn it to slam at Big Government. Classic.
>
I have no problem rescuing idiots from themselves. I have no problem
charging them for the full cost of their rescue, either. That goes
for idiots who climb mountains just because they're there, too.
On 4/19/2016 3:23 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
>>> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
>>> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
>>> water he could fucking stand up in???
>>>
>>> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>>>
>>> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
>>> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>>>
>>
>> Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
>> did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
>> should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water.
>
> pssst...it's a Honda. Suing Toyota won't help. ;-)
>
Funny how the brain works. I saw the word Pious above and was thinking
Prius. The profile looks similar, but most cars look alike these days
anyway. Sue 'em both then. Sue the dealer too, this is America.
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:38:39 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 1:28:05 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:35:20 -0400
>> woodchucker wrote:
>>
>> > You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>
>> most wood floats
>> nothing to worry about
>
>Natalie Wood doesn't (sic) float.
Could happen if her graveyard floods. Caskets have been known to "pop
up" at inopportune times.
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 19:17:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 8:51:10 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
>> On 21 Apr 2016 16:31:30 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>> >
>> >> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
>> >> legit
>> >
>> >It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
>> >terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
>> >or 60s.
>>
>> I was in Detroit a year, or so, ago after torrential rain. The
>> Interstate underpasses were filled right up to the bottom of the
>> bridges. Wasn't happy about driving local Detroit streets from the
>> airport out to the burbs at midnight but getting real wet wasn't a
>> good idea either.
>
>I drove through a slightly flooded underpass a few years back. The water
>was deep enough to do this:
>
>http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/hydroplaning-1.jpg
I remember doing that with drum brakes. The fade got pretty scary.
>
>We had the AC on and the windows rolled up. The lady in the oncoming lane
>did not.
;-)
On 4/19/2016 2:27 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> How come nobody is asking the obvious question?
>
> Does this recent increase in precipitation have any effect on the
> drought situation in Texas? ;-)
Which area?
Much of Texas has always been in drought conditions.
> Hasn't the local news covered this yet?
Texas is too big for "local" to have much meaning. ;)
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Swingman wrote:
> On 4/19/2016 7:58 AM, Sonny wrote:
>
>> The above is not our only example of poor city-drainage engineering.
>
> What you get with poorly educated engineers, and a runaway government
> whose employees are more interested in their pensions than doing what
> they were hired to do.
Not to mention the spending habits of those in power.
A handful of years ago the city fathers here built a civic center. It is
quite nice. It was also very expensive; I've heard figures ranging from 28
to 41 million. Now, the town was less tham 20,000 at the time so that works
out to be somewhere between $1,400 to $2,000+ per person. EVERY person.
Worse yet, they now have a budget "shortfall" so they levied a fire fee of
$150+ per year on all property owners (except for churches, of course).
Oh yeah...they built a new city hall too. The old one was too small to
accommodate the ever increasing size of local government.
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:35:20 -0400
woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
most wood floats
nothing to worry about
On 04/18/2016 11:07 PM, Leon wrote:
> Puckdropper<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> Swingman<[email protected]> wrote in news:jeWdnZifMc1Bx4jKnZ2dnUU7-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> On 4/18/2016 2:35 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>> You guys in Houston, are you ok?
>>>>
>>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
...
>> I hope you put another coat of BoeShield on your tools before the rain
>> started!
...
> Boeshield does not even work on our humidity. :-(
FWW did a comparison of something like 20 various products some years
ago. I don't recall who "won", but I do remember noting that Boeshield
didn't rate all that well; somewhere down in the middle of the pack.
Actually, none of them were all that great it seems I remember thinking
was the real conclusion one could draw. Makes living where it doesn't
rain all that much somewhat more palatable for other things (besides the
farming one, anyway)... :)
We finally managed to get another 0.45" today after almost all day
drizzling/sprinkling. Just west of town only 6 or 7 mi west fella'
reported at the coffee shop this morning they'd already had another inch
by 10AM...on top of the 2" or so from Saturday/Sunday. Just can't get a
break over here, though, it seems...
Ah, well, since had had nothing measurable since first week of February,
will accept any and manage to get by since there's not much choice
otherwise.
The guys w/ 9" and more aren't that much better off.
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On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
> water he could fucking stand up in???
>
> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>
> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
Tap Tap Tap...
Excellent example on how far the US population has turned to crap...
He should have been electrocuted in his Pious and done himself, and us,
a favor.
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> So here's the question:
>
> Is this guy an idiot even though he made it through or are you only an
> idiot if you have to abandon your vehicle? ;-)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLtUmQnP3IU
>
How about he's an idiot for driving into that water in the first place...
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 15:35:20 -0400
woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
legit
amazing what can be done to photos but it looked real
think it was on imgur
it showed a street there at night with cars submerged above the top
of the doors and most of the cars had their lights on
strange site to see
On 4/18/2016 10:01 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> Glad to see you still can joke about it.
> Then you must not have had to bail out.
Not this time.
Did that back in 2001, during TS Allison.
When I rebuilt, I made damned sure it wouldn't happen again.
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 19:17:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 8:51:10 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
>> On 21 Apr 2016 16:31:30 GMT, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>> >
>> >> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
>> >> legit
>> >
>> >It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
>> >terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
>> >or 60s.
>>
>> I was in Detroit a year, or so, ago after torrential rain. The
>> Interstate underpasses were filled right up to the bottom of the
>> bridges. Wasn't happy about driving local Detroit streets from the
>> airport out to the burbs at midnight but getting real wet wasn't a
>> good idea either.
>
>I drove through a slightly flooded underpass a few years back. The water
>was deep enough to do this:
>
>http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/hydroplaning-1.jpg
>
>We had the AC on and the windows rolled up. The lady in the oncoming lane
>did not.
I've been on a few roads where the only way to get throgh was to take
off the fanbelt and go slow. Leave the belt on, and you were
GUARANTEED to flood out too fast and the front would rise on the bow
wave and you were off the side and into the ditch.
In the 80's maybe 85 we lived in Austin.
We got 17" one NIGHT! That was a 400 year flood.
That year we got 200, 300, 400 year floods. All came across
the desert from Mexico and dumped not only rain but tornados
that dumped grapefruit size hail or flat saucier flung from the sides
and sliced the bark off oaks.
The coastal area is so flat and has poor drainage it has to flood.
A massive drainage area of most of East Texas and Central flows in large
rivers and raise more water from up north.
Right now, 200 miles north of Houston, our two rivers are running over
the banks. The large lakes are full and input = output.
Martin
On 4/21/2016 3:29 PM, Leon wrote:
> notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 2016-04-21, Electric Comet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> 16-20 inches of rain.. Holly crap.
>>
>>> saw a photo that seemed unbelievable and i am still not sure it was
>>> legit
>>
>> It prolly was. I recall hearing, as a wee tad, that TX had suffered a
>> terrible rain, almost 1" per hour, for 24 hrs. This back in the 50s
>> or 60s.
>>
>> nb
>>
>
> 2001, tropical storm Allison. The event lasted 2 weeks. 36" over one of
> the weekends.
>
On 4/19/2016 11:56 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
> Not we got all these transplants from the NE, via Colorado, like this
> liberal idiot driving the Prius in the video, too stupid to realize it
> wasn't a fucking "puddle" he was driving into, and trying to swim in
> water he could fucking stand up in???
>
> Wanna bet this guys has a graduate degree?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlsIwhZHLo
>
> ... and, for the record, that ain't no Texas accent. Only thing
> missing on his Pious was a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.
>
Hey, don't you be dissing this guy, not his fault. After floating he
did put it in reverse but it just kept floating. Not his fault, he
should sue Toyota for making a car that does not back up in 3' of water. .
Not only does he have a graduate degree, given his age he is probably
teaching the younger generation to be just like him. It would be funny
if it was not so sad.