I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
staple?
Thanks in advance for any info.
Jay Chan
>I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
> stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
> guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
> those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
> difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
> medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
> staple?
The narrow crown staples are 1/4" wide and use 18ga wire. The larger staples
are wider (3/8, 7/16, 1/2), use a heavier wire (usually 16ga), and are
available in longer lengths.
That sounds familiar but it has been a dozen years or more.
Martin
On 4/24/2015 8:27 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> writes:
>> And if doing a roof, Use only quality Stainless staples.
>>
>> A whole building project - hundreds of homes in San Jose Ca - was put
>> in with normal steel staples and they all rusted. A wind storm took
>> off roof after roof of shingles. It was a real mess and a nasty
>> lawsuit. The builder won, the shingler who cheapened out had to pay for
>> proper installation and materials. The people had tarps over their
>> homes for many months.
>>
>
> Let me guess, the builder was K&B, and the area st. teresa?
>
Jay Chan wrote:
>
> I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
> stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
> guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
> those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
> difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
> medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
> staple?
>
> Thanks in advance for any info.
>
> Jay Chan
The difference is about a quarter of an inch. The
narrow being 1/4 inch wide. When set just
below the surface the narrow crown staple is
less noticable than the wider crown ones. I'm
guessing that the wider crown are thicker.
Have only seen them used on shipping crates
and sometimes pallets so they probably hold
better.
charlie b
Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> writes:
>And if doing a roof, Use only quality Stainless staples.
>
>A whole building project - hundreds of homes in San Jose Ca - was put
>in with normal steel staples and they all rusted. A wind storm took
>off roof after roof of shingles. It was a real mess and a nasty
>lawsuit. The builder won, the shingler who cheapened out had to pay for
>proper installation and materials. The people had tarps over their
>homes for many months.
>
Let me guess, the builder was K&B, and the area st. teresa?
Martin Eastburn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> And if doing a roof, Use only quality Stainless staples.
Not legal where I am...
John
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 11:44:05 PM UTC-4, Stefan wrote:
> replying to Jay Chan, Stefan wrote:
> > jaykchan wrote:
> >
> > I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
> > stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
> > guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
> > those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
> > difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
> > medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
> > staple?
> > Thanks in advance for any info.
> > Jay Chan
>=20
>=20
> Here is more info on narrow, medium and wide crown from
> http://www.packinc.com/fastening-supplies/staples/
>=20
> There are 3 different widths of *wide crown* staples:
> 15/16=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Paslode style staplers.
> 1=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Hitachi and Senco style staplers.
> 1-1/32=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Duo-Fast style staplers.
> Primary Applications: Roofing, Truss Construction, House Wrap,
> Carton-to-Skid, Cabinets, Wire Lathing, Furniture Frames
>=20
> There are 2 different widths of* medium crown* staples:
> 1/2=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Paslode style staplers.
> 7/16=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Hitachi, Duo-Fast and Senco sty=
le staplers.
> Primary Applications: Cedar Shingles, Fascia and Soffits, Fencing, Floor
> Underlayment, Furniture Frames, Roof & Wall Cedar Shingles, Pallets and
> Pallet Repair, Vinyl/Metal Siding, Crate and Box Assembly, Sheathing
> Staples
>=20
> There are 3 different widths of *narrow crown *staples:
> 3/8=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Duo-Fast and Senco style stapler=
s.
> 3/16=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Paslode style staplers.
> 1/4=E2=80=B3 Crown =E2=80=93 Made to fit Hitachi, Duo-Fast and Senco styl=
e staplers.
> Primary Applications: Fascia and Soffits, Molding, Cabinets, Trim,
> Lattice, Paneling, Drawers**
>=20
> *Fine Wire*
> We have categorized every staple made from wire lighter than 18-gauge in
> this category.
> Primary Applications: Roofing Felt, House Wrap, Upholstery, Automotive
> Vinyl and Trim, Picture Frames
>=20
> The crown is the top of the staple that you see after it has been driven
> into the wood. The leg is the length of the staple.
>=20
> --
Very nice response
replying to Jay Chan, Stefan wrote:
> jaykchan wrote:
>
> I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
> stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
> guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
> those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
> difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
> medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
> staple?
> Thanks in advance for any info.
> Jay Chan
Narrow crown staplers only use narrow crown staples, similiarly, wide
crown staplers only use wide crown staples, the same goes for medium crown
staplers=medium crown staples. Maybe you really want to know the
difference between the staples and not the staplers.
*Wide Crown Staples* - Wide crown staples are typically large, heavy-duty
staples. Theyâre mostly used in applications where the staples just have
to work, without looking pretty. Theyâre used in construction
applications, such as roofing, house wrap and truss construction.
Theyâre also used for furniture frames and cabinet frames, and
carton-to-skid attachment in packaging.
- See more at:
http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
*Medium Crown Staples *- Medium crown staples typically have more uses
then their wide crown brothers. They play a big role in home construction,
as theyâre used for cedar shingles, fascia and soffits, fencing, floor
underlayment, and siding. Like wide crown staples, they too can be used in
furniture and cabinet frames. Theyâre also used in pallets, crates, and
boxes.
- See more at:
http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
*Narrow Crown Staples* - Narrow crown staples have a narrower scope of
where theyâre used, but can be used in more âdelicateâ applications,
like installing moulding, trim, and lattice. Theyâre used in cabinet and
drawer making, as well as for fascia and soffits. Their narrow crown make
them more easily hidden than their wide and medium crown brothers.
- See more at:
http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
--
> The difference is about a quarter of an inch. The
> narrow being 1/4 inch wide. When set just
> below the surface the narrow crown staple is
> less noticable than the wider crown ones. I'm
> guessing that the wider crown are thicker.
> Have only seen them used on shipping crates
> and sometimes pallets so they probably hold
> better.
I see. Seem like the narrow crown staples are more appropriate for
woodworking (such as stapling the back panel of a cabinet). No wonder
there are many many narrow crown staplers, and only one medium crown
stapler that I know of.
Thanks for the information that you and another newsgroup member have
provided.
Jay Chan
replying to Jay Chan, Stefan wrote:
> jaykchan wrote:
>
> I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
> stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
> guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
> those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
> difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
> medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
> staple?
> Thanks in advance for any info.
> Jay Chan
Here is more info on narrow, medium and wide crown from
http://www.packinc.com/fastening-supplies/staples/
There are 3 different widths of *wide crown* staples:
15/16â³ Crown â Made to fit Paslode style staplers.
1â³ Crown â Made to fit Hitachi and Senco style staplers.
1-1/32â³ Crown â Made to fit Duo-Fast style staplers.
Primary Applications: Roofing, Truss Construction, House Wrap,
Carton-to-Skid, Cabinets, Wire Lathing, Furniture Frames
There are 2 different widths of* medium crown* staples:
1/2â³ Crown â Made to fit Paslode style staplers.
7/16â³ Crown â Made to fit Hitachi, Duo-Fast and Senco style staplers.
Primary Applications: Cedar Shingles, Fascia and Soffits, Fencing, Floor
Underlayment, Furniture Frames, Roof & Wall Cedar Shingles, Pallets and
Pallet Repair, Vinyl/Metal Siding, Crate and Box Assembly, Sheathing
Staples
There are 3 different widths of *narrow crown *staples:
3/8â³ Crown â Made to fit Duo-Fast and Senco style staplers.
3/16â³ Crown â Made to fit Paslode style staplers.
1/4â³ Crown â Made to fit Hitachi, Duo-Fast and Senco style staplers.
Primary Applications: Fascia and Soffits, Molding, Cabinets, Trim,
Lattice, Paneling, Drawers**
*Fine Wire*
We have categorized every staple made from wire lighter than 18-gauge in
this category.
Primary Applications: Roofing Felt, House Wrap, Upholstery, Automotive
Vinyl and Trim, Picture Frames
The crown is the top of the staple that you see after it has been driven
into the wood. The leg is the length of the staple.
--
differing holding strengths for differing materials. (roof shingles take a
1" crown for example)
Fencing can use a 1/2 " crown
lesser noticeable penetration holes-smallest crown- finish work
if staple is shot with the grain it may penetrate too far.
if staple is shot cross grain it causes more distortion in wood product.
(plywood it does not matter in this case) straight grain wood does matter,
and cross grain shot produces more
damage to face, with grain shot may penetrate too far, and I like 45o angle
shot that grabs grain, and is less damaging to surface.
just a few thoughts on staples.
jloomisconstruction.com
"Stefan" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
replying to Jay Chan, Stefan wrote:
> jaykchan wrote:
>
> I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
> stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
> guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
> those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
> difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
> medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
> staple?
> Thanks in advance for any info.
> Jay Chan
Narrow crown staplers only use narrow crown staples, similiarly, wide
crown staplers only use wide crown staples, the same goes for medium crown
staplers=medium crown staples. Maybe you really want to know the
difference between the staples and not the staplers.
*Wide Crown Staples* - Wide crown staples are typically large, heavy-duty
staples. Theyâre mostly used in applications where the staples just have
to work, without looking pretty. Theyâre used in construction
applications, such as roofing, house wrap and truss construction.
Theyâre also used for furniture frames and cabinet frames, and
carton-to-skid attachment in packaging.
- See more at:
http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
*Medium Crown Staples *- Medium crown staples typically have more uses
then their wide crown brothers. They play a big role in home construction,
as theyâre used for cedar shingles, fascia and soffits, fencing, floor
underlayment, and siding. Like wide crown staples, they too can be used in
furniture and cabinet frames. Theyâre also used in pallets, crates, and
boxes.
- See more at:
http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
*Narrow Crown Staples* - Narrow crown staples have a narrower scope of
where theyâre used, but can be used in more âdelicateâ applications,
like installing moulding, trim, and lattice. Theyâre used in cabinet and
drawer making, as well as for fascia and soffits. Their narrow crown make
them more easily hidden than their wide and medium crown brothers.
- See more at:
http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
--
I would not even use a roof staple.
I used to use them years ago, and only use full head nails, stainless the
best.
Senco Power Roofer Full Head Nails.....
jloomisconstruction.com
"Martin Eastburn" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
And if doing a roof, Use only quality Stainless staples.
A whole building project - hundreds of homes in San Jose Ca - was put
in with normal steel staples and they all rusted. A wind storm took
off roof after roof of shingles. It was a real mess and a nasty
lawsuit. The builder won, the shingler who cheapened out had to pay for
proper installation and materials. The people had tarps over their
homes for many months.
Martin
On 4/23/2015 8:15 AM, jloomis wrote:
> differing holding strengths for differing materials. (roof shingles take
> a 1" crown for example)
> Fencing can use a 1/2 " crown
> lesser noticeable penetration holes-smallest crown- finish work
>
> if staple is shot with the grain it may penetrate too far.
> if staple is shot cross grain it causes more distortion in wood product.
> (plywood it does not matter in this case) straight grain wood does
> matter, and cross grain shot produces more
> damage to face, with grain shot may penetrate too far, and I like 45o
> angle shot that grabs grain, and is less damaging to surface.
> just a few thoughts on staples.
> jloomisconstruction.com
>
> "Stefan" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> replying to Jay Chan, Stefan wrote:
>> jaykchan wrote:
>>
>> I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
>> stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
>> guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
>> those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
>> difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
>> medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
>> staple?
>> Thanks in advance for any info.
>> Jay Chan
>
>
> Narrow crown staplers only use narrow crown staples, similiarly, wide
> crown staplers only use wide crown staples, the same goes for medium crown
> staplers=medium crown staples. Maybe you really want to know the
> difference between the staples and not the staplers.
> *Wide Crown Staples* - Wide crown staples are typically large, heavy-duty
> staples. Theyâre mostly used in applications where the staples just have
> to work, without looking pretty. Theyâre used in construction
> applications, such as roofing, house wrap and truss construction.
> Theyâre also used for furniture frames and cabinet frames, and
> carton-to-skid attachment in packaging.
> - See more at:
> http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
>
> *Medium Crown Staples *- Medium crown staples typically have more uses
> then their wide crown brothers. They play a big role in home construction,
> as theyâre used for cedar shingles, fascia and soffits, fencing, floor
> underlayment, and siding. Like wide crown staples, they too can be used in
> furniture and cabinet frames. Theyâre also used in pallets, crates, and
> boxes.
> - See more at:
> http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
>
> *Narrow Crown Staples* - Narrow crown staples have a narrower scope of
> where theyâre used, but can be used in more âdelicateâ applications,
> like installing moulding, trim, and lattice. Theyâre used in cabinet and
> drawer making, as well as for fascia and soffits. Their narrow crown make
> them more easily hidden than their wide and medium crown brothers.
> - See more at:
> http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
>
>
And if doing a roof, Use only quality Stainless staples.
A whole building project - hundreds of homes in San Jose Ca - was put
in with normal steel staples and they all rusted. A wind storm took
off roof after roof of shingles. It was a real mess and a nasty
lawsuit. The builder won, the shingler who cheapened out had to pay for
proper installation and materials. The people had tarps over their
homes for many months.
Martin
On 4/23/2015 8:15 AM, jloomis wrote:
> differing holding strengths for differing materials. (roof shingles take
> a 1" crown for example)
> Fencing can use a 1/2 " crown
> lesser noticeable penetration holes-smallest crown- finish work
>
> if staple is shot with the grain it may penetrate too far.
> if staple is shot cross grain it causes more distortion in wood product.
> (plywood it does not matter in this case) straight grain wood does
> matter, and cross grain shot produces more
> damage to face, with grain shot may penetrate too far, and I like 45o
> angle shot that grabs grain, and is less damaging to surface.
> just a few thoughts on staples.
> jloomisconstruction.com
>
> "Stefan" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> replying to Jay Chan, Stefan wrote:
>> jaykchan wrote:
>>
>> I thought there was only type of air crown stapler: narrow crown
>> stapler. But I come across something called a medium crown stapler. I
>> guess the staples for medium crown stapler is slightly wider than
>> those for narrow crown stapler. Other than this, what is the
>> difference any way? Why someone will use one over another? Does a
>> medium staple hold the wood parts together better than a narrow
>> staple?
>> Thanks in advance for any info.
>> Jay Chan
>
>
> Narrow crown staplers only use narrow crown staples, similiarly, wide
> crown staplers only use wide crown staples, the same goes for medium crown
> staplers=medium crown staples. Maybe you really want to know the
> difference between the staples and not the staplers.
> *Wide Crown Staples* - Wide crown staples are typically large, heavy-duty
> staples. Theyâre mostly used in applications where the staples just have
> to work, without looking pretty. Theyâre used in construction
> applications, such as roofing, house wrap and truss construction.
> Theyâre also used for furniture frames and cabinet frames, and
> carton-to-skid attachment in packaging.
> - See more at:
> http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
>
> *Medium Crown Staples *- Medium crown staples typically have more uses
> then their wide crown brothers. They play a big role in home construction,
> as theyâre used for cedar shingles, fascia and soffits, fencing, floor
> underlayment, and siding. Like wide crown staples, they too can be used in
> furniture and cabinet frames. Theyâre also used in pallets, crates, and
> boxes.
> - See more at:
> http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
>
> *Narrow Crown Staples* - Narrow crown staples have a narrower scope of
> where theyâre used, but can be used in more âdelicateâ applications,
> like installing moulding, trim, and lattice. Theyâre used in cabinet and
> drawer making, as well as for fascia and soffits. Their narrow crown make
> them more easily hidden than their wide and medium crown brothers.
> - See more at:
> http://www.packinc.com/2012/12/your-guide-to-all-things-staples/#sthash.G8nmN0qs.dpuf
>
>