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[email protected] (Kurt Greiner)

12/06/2004 5:15 AM

Dividing a workshop

Hello Everyone,

I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon, which I will use
half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making which I would
like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the shop in half
using a 2 X 4 wall, faced on one side with plywood, and have sliding glass
patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides on a
hot day.

My questions are:

1. Is there a good source for cheap patio doors? I don't need insulated or
even particularly weather resistant units, as they will be inside the building.

2. Anything I should consider before (or instead) of doing this. Potential
pitfalls?

Your advice would be appreicated.

Cordially,

Kurt

Kurt Greiner

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"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 8:43 AM


"Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> and have sliding glass
> patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides
on a
> hot day.
>
>

Personally, I think patio doors would be a pain. Stepping over, and moving
tool boxes, and the like, over the threshold would make me go with just
double swinging doors.

Bh

"BiffNightly"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 9:06 AM

My neighbour has used stuff that is heavy plastic strips (about 1/8"thick)
approx 6-8 inches wide that you would see used as a cooler door in a food
wholesalers warehouse. You usually see it at Coscto on the entrance to their
coolers. I have no idea how much it costs, but it makes a great divider. It
keeps the "hot side hot & the cool side cool", but can be easily tied back
to allow for airflow. It does a great job of letting the light thru, and you
can move any size of project thru it with no problem.


"Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon, which I will
use
> half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making which I
would
> like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the shop in
half
> using a 2 X 4 wall, faced on one side with plywood, and have sliding glass
> patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides
on a
> hot day.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Is there a good source for cheap patio doors? I don't need insulated
or
> even particularly weather resistant units, as they will be inside the
building.
>
> 2. Anything I should consider before (or instead) of doing this. Potential
> pitfalls?
>
> Your advice would be appreicated.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kurt
>
> Kurt Greiner
>
> SeaPhoto Maritime Photography ...delete "net" to reply
> http://www.warshipphotos.com - now taking online payments via Paypal
>
> Learn about large scale r/c model warships-
> Warship Models Underway http://www.warshipmodelsunderway.com

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 12:43 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Kurt Greiner
<[email protected]> wrote:

> 1. Is there a good source for cheap patio doors? I don't need insulated or
> even particularly weather resistant units, as they will be inside the building.

Habitat for Humanity has "resale" stores in lots of centers. Especially
if you can build ot fit the size of the door, you may be able to get a
deal there.

Otherwise, check with the manufacturers or wholesalers in you area.
They sometimes get returns from contractors that they just want to
liquidate.

djb

Bb

"Brikp"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

14/06/2004 5:15 PM

If in PA check out http://www.wolgemuth-auction.com/id23.htm Don't let the
outdated site confuse you. They auction building supplies once a month. Next
auction Thursday, July 8th. Doors like this can often be had for just a
couple of bucks.


"Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon, which I will
use
> half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making which I
would
> like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the shop in
half
> using a 2 X 4 wall, faced on one side with plywood, and have sliding glass
> patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides
on a
> hot day.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Is there a good source for cheap patio doors? I don't need insulated
or
> even particularly weather resistant units, as they will be inside the
building.
>
> 2. Anything I should consider before (or instead) of doing this. Potential
> pitfalls?
>
> Your advice would be appreicated.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kurt
>
> Kurt Greiner
>
> SeaPhoto Maritime Photography ...delete "net" to reply
> http://www.warshipphotos.com - now taking online payments via Paypal
>
> Learn about large scale r/c model warships-
> Warship Models Underway http://www.warshipmodelsunderway.com

sK

[email protected] (Kurt Greiner)

in reply to "Brikp" on 14/06/2004 5:15 PM

15/06/2004 3:41 AM

I would like to thank everyone who has taken the time to reply to this thread -
you have given me a number of good ideas to consider. I can't wait to move
in!


Thanks again

Kurt


Kurt Greiner

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http://www.warshipphotos.com - now taking online payments via Paypal

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Nn

Nova

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 6:50 PM

Dan wrote:

> Automobile repair shops use those clear strips, too, for their
> service bay doors during hot weather. You might check with some
> local dealers and see where they get them from.

Here's one place:

http://www.pvcstrip.com/

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

Gg

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 7:22 AM

C'mon, you're bragging here, aren't you?

Barn door hardware and wood, window in same if you just _have_ to see from
one side to the other. Baffle and/or foam in the gaps to exclude dust.

1000 SF indeed!

"Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon, which I will
use
> half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making which I
would
> like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the shop in
half
> using a 2 X 4 wall, faced on one side with plywood, and have sliding glass
> patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides
on a
> hot day.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 7:15 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Kurt Greiner <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello Everyone,
>
>I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon, which I will use
>half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making which I would
>like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the shop in half
>using a 2 X 4 wall, faced on one side with plywood, and have sliding glass
>patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides on a
>hot day.
>
>My questions are:
>
>1. Is there a good source for cheap patio doors? I don't need insulated or
>even particularly weather resistant units, as they will be inside the building.
>
>2. Anything I should consider before (or instead) of doing this. Potential
>pitfalls?
>
>Your advice would be appreicated.

Better idea -- get some _heavy_ (like 8.0 mil, or even thicker) plastic
sheeting. it's available in _big_ dimensions, so you can get a single
piece that will go wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling. Wrap the top over
a furring strip, and tack it to the ceiling.

The BORG sell _zippers_ for making a doorway through "walls" like this,
for only a few bucks. Consider installing three, like a wide 'inverted-T',
so you can move 'stuff' through easily.

if you want 'dust-tight', then duct-tape the plastic to the walls, and
a bunch of 'draft snakes' (a _sandbag_, but only about 1" in diameter,
and 30-36" long) to hold the bottom 'tight' to the floor. the reason
for using the 'lightweight' sand-bags, rather than doing something like
duct-taping it to the floor, is so that it _will_ give -- rather than
tear -- when you run something into it. And it's trivially easy to
'put back' after it does get run into.

If you try _hard_, you might be able to run the expenses all the way
up to $100. and drag things out to an entire afternoon. <grin>


Tg

"Termite"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 11:16 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dan wrote:
>
> > Automobile repair shops use those clear strips, too, for their
> > service bay doors during hot weather. You might check with some
> > local dealers and see where they get them from.
>
> Here's one place:
>
> http://www.pvcstrip.com/
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>


Love those dock bumpers. ;-)

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 12:18 AM

"Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon, which I will
use
> half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making which I
would
> like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the shop in
half
> using a 2 X 4 wall, faced on one side with plywood, and have sliding glass
> patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides
on a
> hot day.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Is there a good source for cheap patio doors? I don't need insulated
or
> even particularly weather resistant units, as they will be inside the
building.

My local orange Borg seems to have a constant supply of doors/windows that I
presume were misordered or not picked up priced at a discount. Might work
well for you since you wouldn't have to be picky about the size.

todd

Dk

Dan

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 9:57 PM

Automobile repair shops use those clear strips, too, for their
service bay doors during hot weather. You might check with some
local dealers and see where they get them from.

That sounds like a perfect solution to divide and still let light
through but keep dust to a minimum.

Make some sawdust,

Woodworkerdan
Dan Harriman
Orange, Texas


"BiffNightly" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> My neighbour has used stuff that is heavy plastic strips (about
> 1/8"thick) approx 6-8 inches wide that you would see used as a
> cooler door in a food wholesalers warehouse. You usually see it at
> Coscto on the entrance to their coolers.
>
> ----------------
> "Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon,
>> which I will
> use
>> half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making
>> which I
> would
>> like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the
>> shop in
> half
>>---------------------
>> 2. Anything I should consider before (or instead) of doing this.
>> Potential pitfalls?
>>
>> Your advice would be appreicated.
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> Kurt Greiner

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

12/06/2004 11:33 AM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 07:15:49 +0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

>Better idea -- get some _heavy_ (like 8.0 mil, or even thicker) plastic
>sheeting. it's available in _big_ dimensions, so you can get a single
>piece that will go wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling. Wrap the top over
>a furring strip, and tack it to the ceiling.

Just be aware that exposed plastic sheeting burns like fireworks.
Spend the extra money for flame resistant stuff if you go this route.

Barry

BL

Barry Lennox

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 12/06/2004 5:15 AM

13/06/2004 9:22 AM

On 12 Jun 2004 05:15:30 GMT, [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) wrote:

>Hello Everyone,
>
>I will be getting a workshop building of around 1000 SF soon, which I will use
>half for woodworking and half for metal working and model making which I would
>like to keep relatively dust free. My thought is to divide the shop in half
>using a 2 X 4 wall, faced on one side with plywood, and have sliding glass
>patio doors (2 sets) between the two halves, so I can open up both sides on a
>hot day.
>
>My questions are:
>
>1. Is there a good source for cheap patio doors? I don't need insulated or
>even particularly weather resistant units, as they will be inside the building.


I have almost the same setup, but used a sliding door made from
plywood, with only a top slide and a couple of bottom guide blocks. I
did not want to be constantly tripping over a bottom slide. It works
well with very little dust problem. I also use one side of the door as
giant tool storage rack.

Barry lennox


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