LH

"Lew Hodgett"

01/09/2009 4:20 AM

How About That

Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.

Damn.

Guess it is time to look for an alternate.

Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?

Lew



Lew



This topic has 40 replies

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 8:03 PM

Puckdropper wrote:

> I've read thousands of messages, loaded a couple dozen pictures, and
> have only scratched the surface of my 25 gig. Last I checked, it was
> 0.16 gig.
>
> If you primarily read and reply to text-based groups, and don't do more
> than A.B.P.W. for binaries, it'll take you forever to use a gig of
> bandwidth.
>
> Puckdropper

Only 0.16 GB? I take it you've skipped the "Edward" threads. (R,D&H)

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

02/09/2009 12:11 AM


"Lew Hodgett" wrote

> There have been 12 responses.
>
> AstraWeb received 4 votes.
>
> Nothing else received more than 2 votes.
>
> Since for $25, I probably get a lifetime supply (180 Gig) ands includes
> binaries, looks like a winner.
>
Welcome to the club.


Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 6:04 AM

"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>
>> Damn.
>>
>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>
>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>>
>> Lew
>>
> I like Astraweb. Pay once and get years of service. And you get
> binaries too.
>
> www.astraweb.com
>
>
>
>

I'll second the vote for Astraweb. If you post text and don't download a
lot of binaries, the 120 gig they give you for $25 will last you forever.
Access is consistently fast and reliable.

Their support staff was as helpful as they could be when I contacted them
about some trouble my former ISP* was causing.

*Wildblue users take note: If you get FAP'd NNTP access might not work
at all!

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 6:52 PM

Nova <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>> On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>>
>>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>>
>>> Damn.
>>
>>
>> Damn, indeed.
>>
>> My ISP uses Verizon for NNTP access. Had some trouble about a week
>> ago and called them (my ISP, not Verizon). I asked them if they'd
>> heard anything about Verizon dropping news, and they said they
>> hadn't.
>>
>> I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you're right.
>>
>>
>
> I got the same email from Verizon this AM.
>
> I'll probably swith over to Giganews but I have no idea what the
> monthly GB plan would work for rec.woodworking,
> rec.crafts.woodturning, alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking, and one
> other woodworking related binary group that I used to subscribe to and
> but don't remember the name.
>
> Any suggestions?
>

I've read thousands of messages, loaded a couple dozen pictures, and
have only scratched the surface of my 25 gig. Last I checked, it was
0.16 gig.

If you primarily read and reply to text-based groups, and don't do more
than A.B.P.W. for binaries, it'll take you forever to use a gig of
bandwidth.

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 1:34 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.
>
> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> Lew
>
I like Astraweb. Pay once and get years of service. And you get binaries
too.

www.astraweb.com


Mm

Markem

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 2:08 PM

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:49:50 -0700, jo4hn <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>
>> Damn.
>>
>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>
>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>Nobody has mentioned Supernews yet, so I will: Supernews.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

Supernews = Giganews they merged sometime ago.

Mark

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 5:43 AM

On Sep 1, 2:57=A0am, mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:20:05 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> w=
rote:
>
> I've been using APN for a few years and really like it.. About $3 a month=
for
> fast servers, great retention and I haven't had any server down-time..htt=
p://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php
>
> Has every newsgroup imaginable, including ABPW
> Oh.. no ads, restrictions, etc....
>
>
>
>
>
> >Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> >NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> >Damn.
>
> >Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> >Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> >Lew
>
> >Lew
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing

Yup. I second that APN suggestion.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 1:24 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I'm becoming swayed...

I'd recommend Agent Premium News (APN) which is the creator of Forte Agent
newsreader. I'm a heavy user, so I subscribe to their unlimited plan to
cover all contingencies, but they do have an array of smaller plan options
available. As to functionality, message retention times are excellent on
APN. They have a 30 day no risk trial period.

http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 7:13 PM

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:20:05 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
>Damn.
>
>Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
>Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
>Lew
>
>
>
>Lew
>
>


Bellsouth did the same in June. I found the following server will
serve most, if not all, text-based Usenet needs.

news.eternal-september.org

It is free and you can use any newsgroup reader application.

Ll

"LD"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 6:44 AM

"David Nebenzahl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>
>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>
>> Damn.
>
> Damn, indeed.
>
> My ISP uses Verizon for NNTP access. Had some trouble about a week ago and
> called them (my ISP, not Verizon). I asked them if they'd heard anything
> about Verizon dropping news, and they said they hadn't.
>
> I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you're right.


Just read it in a verizon ng ...

They previously dumped a bunch of groups.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

31/08/2009 11:09 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.
>
> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?

If you don't need binaries, individual.net is terrific.

ww

wrbrown13

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 10:38 AM

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:59:20 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>
>> Damn.
>>
>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>
>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>>
>> Lew
>
> Your internet connection provider does not have to be your ISP. Here we have
> Comcast that handles the wires and our ISP is Earthlink. Earthlink provides
> Giganews as part of their fee.
>
> In the alternative, I'm sure an upstanding group like Verizon will rebate
> part of your bill in return for the diminished service. With this rebate,
> you can surely afford even the most robust newsserver.

Yeah, just like AT&T lowered our rates - NOT!. They politely explained
that Newsgroup access had been a "free" service.

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

31/08/2009 10:21 PM

On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:

> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.

Damn, indeed.

My ISP uses Verizon for NNTP access. Had some trouble about a week ago
and called them (my ISP, not Verizon). I asked them if they'd heard
anything about Verizon dropping news, and they said they hadn't.

I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you're right.


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

DN

David Nebenzahl

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

31/08/2009 10:28 PM

On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:

> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.
>
> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?

Fuck Google. Stay away from their brain-damaged spam-portal.

Dunno about the best choice, but I found aioe.org to have good coverage.
No need to sign up; just point your news client to news.aioe.org (port
119) and away you go.

They allow a maximum of 25 postings a day, which seems reasonable. (I'd
exceed that, but that's just because I post too much.)


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 5:17 PM

Tom J wrote:

> Han wrote:
>
>>Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>
>>>"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>>Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are
>>>>>terminating NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>>>>
>>>>>Damn.
>>>>>
>>>>>Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>>>>
>>>>>Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lew
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I like Astraweb. Pay once and get years of service. And you get
>>>>binaries too.
>>>>
>>>>www.astraweb.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'll second the vote for Astraweb. If you post text and don't
>>>download a lot of binaries, the 120 gig they give you for $25 will
>>>last you forever. Access is consistently fast and reliable.
>>>
>>>Their support staff was as helpful as they could be when I
>>>contacted
>>>them about some trouble my former ISP* was causing.
>>>
>>>*Wildblue users take note: If you get FAP'd NNTP access might not
>>>work at all!
>>>
>>>Puckdropper
>>
>>I will attest to the good service Astraweb is giving. My $10 for
>>25GB
>>has lasted for over a year and maybe I have by now used 1 GB of
>>that.
>
>
> I don't do many binaries, so my $10 - 25GB is still working after 4
> 1/2 years!! Get Astroweb!!
>
> Tom J
>
>

I'm becoming swayed...

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

Nn

Nova

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 5:13 PM

HeyBub wrote:

<snip>

> In the alternative, I'm sure an upstanding group like Verizon will rebate
> part of your bill in return for the diminished service. With this rebate,
> you can surely afford even the most robust newsserver.
>
>

Yeah, right. Part of the last sentence of their announcment reads,
"there will not be any change to the price you pay for your Verizon High
Speed Internet or Verizon FiOS Internet service." :-(

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

02/09/2009 3:15 AM

There have been 12 responses.

AstraWeb received 4 votes.

Nothing else received more than 2 votes.

Since for $25, I probably get a lifetime supply (180 Gig) ands
includes binaries, looks like a winner.

Thanks for the help.

Lew



Nn

Nova

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 9:09 PM

Upscale wrote:
> "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:%5fnm.679
>
>>Only 0.16 GB? I take it you've skipped the "Edward" threads. (R,D&H)
>
>
> Not really necessary to skip the Edward thread to save bandwidth. All you
> have to do is filter Daneliuk's name and you'd never have a bandwidth issue,
> at least not in rec.woodworking.
>
>

The problem with filters is they don't work on the "fish".

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 2:02 PM

Nova wrote:
> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>> On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>>
>>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>>
>>> Damn.
>>
>>
>> Damn, indeed.
>>
>> My ISP uses Verizon for NNTP access. Had some trouble about a week ago
>> and called them (my ISP, not Verizon). I asked them if they'd heard
>> anything about Verizon dropping news, and they said they hadn't.
>>
>> I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you're right.
>>
>>
>
> I got the same email from Verizon this AM.
>
> I'll probably swith over to Giganews but I have no idea what the monthly
> GB plan would work for rec.woodworking, rec.crafts.woodturning,
> alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking, and one other woodworking related
> binary group that I used to subscribe to and but don't remember the name.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
I use the 4.99 per month and never run out of bytes.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

I love cats...they taste just like chicken




Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

02/09/2009 5:52 PM


"LD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David Nebenzahl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>>
>>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>>
>>> Damn.
>>
>> Damn, indeed.
>>
>> My ISP uses Verizon for NNTP access. Had some trouble about a week ago
>> and called them (my ISP, not Verizon). I asked them if they'd heard
>> anything about Verizon dropping news, and they said they hadn't.
>>
>> I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you're right.
>
>
> Just read it in a verizon ng ...
>

Oh, the irony.

Hn

Han

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 11:08 AM

Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>>
>>> Damn.
>>>
>>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>>
>>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>> I like Astraweb. Pay once and get years of service. And you get
>> binaries too.
>>
>> www.astraweb.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'll second the vote for Astraweb. If you post text and don't
> download a lot of binaries, the 120 gig they give you for $25 will
> last you forever. Access is consistently fast and reliable.
>
> Their support staff was as helpful as they could be when I contacted
> them about some trouble my former ISP* was causing.
>
> *Wildblue users take note: If you get FAP'd NNTP access might not
> work at all!
>
> Puckdropper

I will attest to the good service Astraweb is giving. My $10 for 25GB
has lasted for over a year and maybe I have by now used 1 GB of that.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Dd

DCH

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

02/09/2009 12:51 AM

"Tom J" <[email protected]> wrote in news:kJSdneCj0Z-
[email protected]:

> Nova wrote:
>> Puckdropper wrote:
>>
>>> I've read thousands of messages, loaded a couple dozen pictures,
>>> and
>>> have only scratched the surface of my 25 gig. Last I checked, it
>>> was
>>> 0.16 gig.
>>>


I also signed with astraweb, after ATT dumped the newsgroups....25$ gets
you 180 gigs of transfers, and they never expire....and they claim to
keep everything anonymous, unlike other servers...they have complete
uncensored content with almost 365 day retention.....

Hope this helps.....

DCH

Hn

Han

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

02/09/2009 11:14 AM

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:Irlnm.758$Jd7.694
@nwrddc02.gnilink.net:

> There have been 12 responses.
>
> AstraWeb received 4 votes.
>
> Nothing else received more than 2 votes.
>
> Since for $25, I probably get a lifetime supply (180 Gig) ands
> includes binaries, looks like a winner.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Lew

Don't forget the 25GB for $10. More per gig, but less outlay at first.


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 8:49 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.
>
> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> Lew
>
>
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Nobody has mentioned Supernews yet, so I will: Supernews.
mahalo,
jo4hn

TJ

"Tom J"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 11:41 AM

Han wrote:
> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are
>>>> terminating NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>>>
>>>> Damn.
>>>>
>>>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>>>
>>>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>>
>>> I like Astraweb. Pay once and get years of service. And you get
>>> binaries too.
>>>
>>> www.astraweb.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'll second the vote for Astraweb. If you post text and don't
>> download a lot of binaries, the 120 gig they give you for $25 will
>> last you forever. Access is consistently fast and reliable.
>>
>> Their support staff was as helpful as they could be when I
>> contacted
>> them about some trouble my former ISP* was causing.
>>
>> *Wildblue users take note: If you get FAP'd NNTP access might not
>> work at all!
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> I will attest to the good service Astraweb is giving. My $10 for
> 25GB
> has lasted for over a year and maybe I have by now used 1 GB of
> that.

I don't do many binaries, so my $10 - 25GB is still working after 4
1/2 years!! Get Astroweb!!

Tom J

kk

krw

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

31/08/2009 11:27 PM

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:20:05 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
>Damn.
>
>Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
>Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?

Indivual.net is 10EUR ($15ish, IIRC) per year. I've used them for at
least five years (they were free) and have been happy with their
service. Their customer support cannot be beat.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 4:59 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:%5fnm.679
> Only 0.16 GB? I take it you've skipped the "Edward" threads. (R,D&H)

Not really necessary to skip the Edward thread to save bandwidth. All you
have to do is filter Daneliuk's name and you'd never have a bandwidth issue,
at least not in rec.woodworking.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

31/08/2009 11:39 PM

>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>
>> Damn.
>>
>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>
>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> Indivual.net is 10EUR ($15ish, IIRC) per year. I've used them for at
> least five years (they were free) and have been happy with their
> service. Their customer support cannot be beat.
>


http://www.eternal-september.org/

free and reliable, so far


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

BB

"Bill"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 2:02 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.
>
> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> Lew

I've had good luck with newsguy.com, evidentally $24 or $60 a year depending
on whether you'd like 3 GB/month or 15GB/month.
I'm on the latter since when I enrolled they didn't offer the first choice.
Either way the cost is comparatively nothing compared to that of being a
clamp collector...

Bill

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 12:13 PM

-MIKE- wrote:
>>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>>
>>> Damn.
>>>
>>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>>
>>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>>
>> Indivual.net is 10EUR ($15ish, IIRC) per year. I've used them for at
>> least five years (they were free) and have been happy with their
>> service. Their customer support cannot be beat.
>
>
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>
> free and reliable, so far

Seconded.

--
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/

JS

Jack Stein

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 4:20 PM

HeyBub wrote:

> In the alternative, I'm sure an upstanding group like Verizon will rebate
> part of your bill in return for the diminished service. With this rebate,
> you can surely afford even the most robust newsserver.

With the refund you can go to http://www.eternal-september.org/ and get
all the text messages you want, forever. It will cost the entire refund
you get from Verizon, same as my refund from Comcast.

--
Jack
Using FREE News Server: http://www.eternal-september.org/
http://jbstein.com

ST

Steve Turner

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 5:23 PM

Jack Stein wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>
>> In the alternative, I'm sure an upstanding group like Verizon will
>> rebate part of your bill in return for the diminished service. With
>> this rebate, you can surely afford even the most robust newsserver.
>
> With the refund you can go to http://www.eternal-september.org/ and get
> all the text messages you want, forever. It will cost the entire refund
> you get from Verizon, same as my refund from Comcast.

And mine from AT&T. :-)

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Tanus

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 9:58 PM

David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>
>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>
>> Damn.
>>
>> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>>
>> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> Fuck Google. Stay away from their brain-damaged spam-portal.
>
> Dunno about the best choice, but I found aioe.org to have good coverage.
> No need to sign up; just point your news client to news.aioe.org (port
> 119) and away you go.
>
> They allow a maximum of 25 postings a day, which seems reasonable. (I'd
> exceed that, but that's just because I post too much.)
>
>

I'll second that. Server is at news.aioe.org. I've been happy with them,
but no binaries.

Tanus

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Steve Turner

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

02/09/2009 7:56 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> There have been 12 responses.
>
> AstraWeb received 4 votes.
>
> Nothing else received more than 2 votes.
>
> Since for $25, I probably get a lifetime supply (180 Gig) ands
> includes binaries, looks like a winner.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Lew

Actually, news.eternal-september.org got three, but I don't blame you for picking AstraWeb.
I went there myself last night and decided to go ahead and plunk down the $10 (had some
surplus in my PayPal account) for the 25 gigs. That should last me quite a while, but I
figure I can still use news.eternal-september.org (free!) for the text-only groups and
AstraWeb for binaries, so as not to unnecessarily eat away at my 25 gigs.

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"Tom J"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 4:46 PM

Nova wrote:
> Puckdropper wrote:
>
>> I've read thousands of messages, loaded a couple dozen pictures,
>> and
>> have only scratched the surface of my 25 gig. Last I checked, it
>> was
>> 0.16 gig.
>>
>> If you primarily read and reply to text-based groups, and don't do
>> more than A.B.P.W. for binaries, it'll take you forever to use a
>> gig
>> of bandwidth.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> Only 0.16 GB? I take it you've skipped the "Edward" threads.
> (R,D&H)

With Astroweb there is no usage for the headers in a thread, only for
the message you click on and download to your computer.

I signed on to this group a week ago after a long absent and lost no
band width catching up.

Tom J

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Nova

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 5:05 PM

David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 8/31/2009 9:20 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>
>> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>>
>> Damn.
>
>
> Damn, indeed.
>
> My ISP uses Verizon for NNTP access. Had some trouble about a week ago
> and called them (my ISP, not Verizon). I asked them if they'd heard
> anything about Verizon dropping news, and they said they hadn't.
>
> I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you're right.
>
>

I got the same email from Verizon this AM.

I'll probably swith over to Giganews but I have no idea what the monthly
GB plan would work for rec.woodworking, rec.crafts.woodturning,
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking, and one other woodworking related
binary group that I used to subscribe to and but don't remember the name.

Any suggestions?

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mac davis

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

31/08/2009 11:57 PM

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:20:05 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:

I've been using APN for a few years and really like it.. About $3 a month for
fast servers, great retention and I haven't had any server down-time..
http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

Has every newsgroup imaginable, including ABPW
Oh.. no ads, restrictions, etc....

>Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
>NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
>Damn.
>
>Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
>Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
>Lew
>
>
>
>Lew
>
>


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"dadiOH"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 8:42 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.
>
> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> Lew
>
>
>
> Lew

Buy a block. Never expires, includes binaries, cheap, reliable.
http://usenet-news.net/

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notbob

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 6:38 AM

On 2009-09-01, David Nebenzahl <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fuck Google. Stay away from their brain-damaged spam-portal.

Yep. So bad, in fact, there's a website dedicated to instructing how
to kill-file google posts by default. I do. If you post from google,
I'll never see it cuz I block all google domain post, as do many other
folks. Not a google users fault, but so much spam originates from
google it's just not worth allowing it in. So I don't.

nb

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 01/09/2009 4:20 AM

01/09/2009 7:59 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Just received an e-mail from Verizon indicating they are terminating
> NewsGroups effective 09/30/09.
>
> Damn.
>
> Guess it is time to look for an alternate.
>
> Other than Google, what seems to be best choice for an alternate?
>
> Lew

Your internet connection provider does not have to be your ISP. Here we have
Comcast that handles the wires and our ISP is Earthlink. Earthlink provides
Giganews as part of their fee.

In the alternative, I'm sure an upstanding group like Verizon will rebate
part of your bill in return for the diminished service. With this rebate,
you can surely afford even the most robust newsserver.


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