Limp Arbor wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I used to reload. When I became a good enough shot, I gave my
>> reloading equipment to my son. I still get 98/100 when I requalify
>> for my concealed handgun license every four years, so I'm content.
>>
>> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
>
> What state requires that test?
>
> Here in Western Europe a.k.a. Eastern California a.k.a. Southern Mass
> a.k.a. NJ you have a better chance of winning Powerball and Mega
> Millions on the same day than you do getting a carry permit.
Here's the test protocol.
http://www.texasbestchl.com/range_qual.html
20 shots at 9 feet
20 shots at 21 feet
10 shots at 45 feet
Here's the skinny on the Concealed Handgun License.
48 States have some sort of permitting system. In Illinois, Wisconsin, and
D.C. you can't get a permit for love or money; it just doesn't exist.
Of the 48, 38 are "shall issue" states and ten have some sort of
discretionary system. The "shall issue" requirement means that when the
applicant meets the statutory requirements, the issuing authority
(Department of Public Safety, local sheriff, etc.) MUST issue the permit.
There is no ifs, ands, or buts.
California, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and a few other states are
in the "discretionary" realm. Usually this means you have to be politically
well-connected to obtain a permit or have to prove some prudent reason (such
as carrying large sums of money or having your life threatened). For
example, Dianne Feinstein had a license when she was mayor of San Francisco.
A couple of states, Alaska and Vermont, you don't need a license at all
inasmuch as it is not illegal to carry a concealed firearm in those states.
Here's a map:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
A state concealed handgun license may or may not be honored in another
state. There is a constantly-changing reciprocity table. If I were to visit
another state, I'd check the latest reciprocity situtation before I left
home.
I'd also check the unique provisions of the state I'm visiting. Places where
one can carry a gun vary. For example, here in Texas I can carry my
concealed handgun in a church or restaurant that serves alcohol. Guns in
both those places are prohibited in Tennessee. I can carry my gun in the
Dallas-Ft Worth airport, but not in the Hartsdale airport in Georgia.
Ponder-point:
Public places where legal carry is prohibited - either by law or policy -
are called "gun-free zones."
In modern times, every instance where three or more people were killed by
gunfire took place in a gun-free zone.
At least according to John Lott:
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/03/gun-free-zones-are-a-magnet-for-attacks-like-the-tragedy-in-binghampton/
J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>> If you shoot a lot (but who can these days what with the
>> unavailability of ammunition), or have noisy tools, you can't beat
>> their $2.99 ear muffs. Well, I guess you COULD with ear PLUGS...
>
> Most people who shoot a lot reload.
Yeah, I used to reload. When I became a good enough shot, I gave my
reloading equipment to my son. I still get 98/100 when I requalify for my
concealed handgun license every four years, so I'm content.
'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
<[email protected]> wrote in message
> today to buy some magnets for a project. Any good deals people think
> are worth looking at?
Don't know about deals in regards to price, but Lee Valley sells a
substantial variety of rare earth magnets.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=42348&cat=1,42363
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:52:39 -0700 (PDT), Limp Arbor
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 3, 7:38 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>> >> If you shoot a lot (but who can these days what with the
>> >> unavailability of ammunition), or have noisy tools, you can't beat
>> >> their $2.99 ear muffs. Well, I guess you COULD with ear PLUGS...
>>
>> > Most people who shoot a lot reload.
>>
>> Yeah, I used to reload. When I became a good enough shot, I gave my
>> reloading equipment to my son. I still get 98/100 when I requalify for my
>> concealed handgun license every four years, so I'm content.
>>
>> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
>
>What state requires that test?
Wondering the same thing, but I'll have to read on...
>Here in Western Europe a.k.a. Eastern California a.k.a. Southern Mass
>a.k.a. NJ you have a better chance of winning Powerball and Mega
>Millions on the same day than you do getting a carry permit.
If Eastern CA is Western Europe, I guess VT is Eastern Europe, before
the wall came down. VT doesn't have any gun laws, per se. Carry
(concealed, or not) at your hearts content. We moved last year to AL
so I got a CCW permit for the first time (haven't pulled a trigger
yet). No test at all, just $20/yr to the Sheriff.
On Apr 3, 7:38=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>
> >> If you shoot a lot (but who can these days what with the
> >> unavailability of ammunition), or have noisy tools, you can't beat
> >> their $2.99 ear muffs. Well, I guess you COULD with ear PLUGS...
>
> > Most people who shoot a lot reload.
>
> Yeah, I used to reload. When I became a good enough shot, I gave my
> reloading equipment to my son. I still get 98/100 when I requalify for my
> concealed handgun license every four years, so I'm content.
>
> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
What state requires that test?
Here in Western Europe a.k.a. Eastern California a.k.a. Southern Mass
a.k.a. NJ you have a better chance of winning Powerball and Mega
Millions on the same day than you do getting a carry permit.
On Apr 3, 9:42=A0pm, "DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> CW wrote:
> > "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> >> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
>
> > Obviously you're not a cop. Lots of them find it quite difficult.
>
> Ain't that the truth. =A0I used to shoot at a range where cops and jail g=
uards
> had badge-only practice sessions. =A0It was never hard to tell when a big
> group of them had been in, there were marks from stray shots all over the
> place, the walls, the floors, the ceiling, the barricades between shootin=
g
> stations.... =A0The range was owned by the city, the guys with badges
> eventually got the civilians forced out reportedly because they didn't li=
ke
> attention being drawn to the amount of damage they caused. =A0I read an
> article once about how many cops get shot by other cops during gun fights=
,
> it was a disturbingly high number considering the use of firearms is
> supposed to be something they're trained for. =A0Jim Cirillo would seem t=
o
> have been the exception to the rule.
WHICH reminds me of one of my favourite jokes:
Q: Who put the three fatal bullets into Mussolini after WW2?
A:
.
.
.
.
.
450 Italian sharpshooters.
Greg Guarino wrote:
> Their prices are tempting, but they seem to be able to include a fatal
> flaw in even the most innocent-looking items. I bought a couple of 18"
> no-name "quik-lok" style one-hand bar clamps from them a while back.
> They were cheap, and it was a size I didn't already have.
>
> Both of them broke the first time I tried to use them. In each case
> the actual jaw snapped in half as I tightened it. I used what felt
> like a pretty normal amount of pressure, exerted with one hand.
>
> I'd like to be able to claim that the problem was excess manliness and
> might, but I think it's more likely that the clamps were just crap. I
> kept the bright orange soft pads though, so it wasn't a total loss.
>
> No more Harbor Freight for me.
Funny, I've got plenty of those exact same clamps in various sizes and
I've never had a single problem with them. In fact, one of the things
that most people go to Harbor Freight for are their clamps, you can
never have too many and they all work fine at a great price. I've never
had one fail on me yet, although I will admit that their bar clamps bend
a bit, but for the price...
You probably just got a bad set, nothing more.
[email protected] wrote:
> today to buy some magnets for a project. Any good deals people think
> are worth looking at?
>
On my recent flyer, a 4-ton hydraulic bottle jack for $10 caught my eye.
Their multi-function faux-Fein tool is still $39.99. They've got some swell
general-purpose scissors for 99¢ - I've got about four pair scattered around
the house.
I got some of their magnets recently to facilitate quick-access, relatively
hidden, gun stashing. The magnets work swell with my two 1911s, but you have
to be creative with the composite guns like my Glocks. They don't stick to
magnets worth squat.
I'm thinking Velcro.
If you shoot a lot (but who can these days what with the unavailability of
ammunition), or have noisy tools, you can't beat their $2.99 ear muffs.
Well, I guess you COULD with ear PLUGS...
Greg Guarino wrote:
> Their prices are tempting, but they seem to be able to include a fatal
> flaw in even the most innocent-looking items. I bought a couple of 18"
> no-name "quik-lok" style one-hand bar clamps from them a while back.
> They were cheap, and it was a size I didn't already have.
>
> Both of them broke the first time I tried to use them. In each case
> the actual jaw snapped in half as I tightened it. I used what felt
> like a pretty normal amount of pressure, exerted with one hand.
>
> I'd like to be able to claim that the problem was excess manliness and
> might, but I think it's more likely that the clamps were just crap. I
> kept the bright orange soft pads though, so it wasn't a total loss.
>
> No more Harbor Freight for me.
>
> Greg Guarino
One needs to shop at HF with care as some of their stuff is really junky,
their el-cheapo speed clamps are quite crappy. But I just bought a bunch of
steel spring clamps there on sale and they work just fine. I suppose the
only way to screw up something like that is to make the steel so thin it
bends, and that isn't the case with the ones I got.
CW wrote:
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
>
> Obviously you're not a cop. Lots of them find it quite difficult.
Ain't that the truth. I used to shoot at a range where cops and jail guards
had badge-only practice sessions. It was never hard to tell when a big
group of them had been in, there were marks from stray shots all over the
place, the walls, the floors, the ceiling, the barricades between shooting
stations.... The range was owned by the city, the guys with badges
eventually got the civilians forced out reportedly because they didn't like
attention being drawn to the amount of damage they caused. I read an
article once about how many cops get shot by other cops during gun fights,
it was a disturbingly high number considering the use of firearms is
supposed to be something they're trained for. Jim Cirillo would seem to
have been the exception to the rule.
On Apr 3, 12:40=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> today to buy some magnets for a project. Any good deals people think
> are worth looking at?
>
> MJM
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html/wkend0406/usa_cpnsave.html
If you sign up on their website they'll email you a coupon good for
20% off any one item about every two weeks.
Just used mine today got a small furniture dolley for $8.
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
Obviously you're not a cop. Lots of them find it quite difficult.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> today to buy some magnets for a project. Any good deals people think
>> are worth looking at?
>
> Don't know about deals in regards to price, but Lee Valley sells a
> substantial variety of rare earth magnets.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=42348&cat=1,42363
i usually buy in bulk here
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp
check out their clearance section for particularly good deals.
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=17
regards,
charlie
cave creek, az
HeyBub wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> today to buy some magnets for a project. Any good deals people think
>> are worth looking at?
>>
>
> On my recent flyer, a 4-ton hydraulic bottle jack for $10 caught my
> eye.
> Their multi-function faux-Fein tool is still $39.99. They've got some
> swell general-purpose scissors for 99¢ - I've got about four pair
> scattered around the house.
>
> I got some of their magnets recently to facilitate quick-access,
> relatively hidden, gun stashing. The magnets work swell with my two
> 1911s, but you have to be creative with the composite guns like my
> Glocks. They don't stick to magnets worth squat.
>
> I'm thinking Velcro.
>
> If you shoot a lot (but who can these days what with the
> unavailability of ammunition), or have noisy tools, you can't beat
> their $2.99 ear muffs. Well, I guess you COULD with ear PLUGS...
Most people who shoot a lot reload.
Limp Arbor wrote:
> On Apr 3, 7:38Â pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>> >> If you shoot a lot (but who can these days what with the
>> >> unavailability of ammunition), or have noisy tools, you can't beat
>> >> their $2.99 ear muffs. Well, I guess you COULD with ear PLUGS...
>>
>> > Most people who shoot a lot reload.
>>
>> Yeah, I used to reload. When I became a good enough shot, I gave my
>> reloading equipment to my son. I still get 98/100 when I requalify for my
>> concealed handgun license every four years, so I'm content.
>>
>> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
>
> What state requires that test?
>
> Here in Western Europe a.k.a. Eastern California a.k.a. Southern Mass
> a.k.a. NJ you have a better chance of winning Powerball and Mega
> Millions on the same day than you do getting a carry permit.
Aint that the truth. Think my next move will be Utah....
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>today to buy some magnets for a project. Any good deals people think
>are worth looking at?
>
>MJM
Their prices are tempting, but they seem to be able to include a fatal
flaw in even the most innocent-looking items. I bought a couple of 18"
no-name "quik-lok" style one-hand bar clamps from them a while back.
They were cheap, and it was a size I didn't already have.
Both of them broke the first time I tried to use them. In each case
the actual jaw snapped in half as I tightened it. I used what felt
like a pretty normal amount of pressure, exerted with one hand.
I'd like to be able to claim that the problem was excess manliness and
might, but I think it's more likely that the clamps were just crap. I
kept the bright orange soft pads though, so it wasn't a total loss.
No more Harbor Freight for me.
Greg Guarino
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:36:04 +0000, Brian Henderson wrote:
>
>> In fact, one of the things
>> that most people go to Harbor Freight for are their clamps, you can
>> never have too many and they all work fine at a great price. I've never
>> had one fail on me yet, although I will admit that their bar clamps bend
>> a bit, but for the price...
>
> They have, or used to have, two "brands" of bar clamps. The "Pittsburg"
> ones are pretty good - I've got a lot. The others are lower quality.
Without going out to look, I can't tell you what I have. I know I have
Pittsburgh, no idea if I have any of the others.
> And I haven't seen one of those half-price clamp sales for quite some
> time :-).
I hadn't been out to HF in more than a year, but I needed to get a pole
tree pruner and according to their web site, they had one at a good
price so I drove out last week. Apparently, the price, although it
didn't say so on the web site, was so good because they were entirely
discontinuing it and they were all gone.
I don't think I've bought any clamps there in a couple of years, but
I've got so many, I haven't run out lately.
> I have found some bending in the 30" ones, but only when I'm trying to
> coerce a piece of wood I should have machined straighter in the first
> place :-).
Precisely. If you're putting that much pressure on the joint, you're
probably doing something wrong to begin with.
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:42:49 -0700, DGDevin wrote:
> CW wrote:
>
>> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> 'Course it's not hard to hit a man-sized target at 21 feet...
>>
>> Obviously you're not a cop. Lots of them find it quite difficult.
>
> Ain't that the truth. I used to shoot at a range where cops and jail
> guards had badge-only practice sessions. It was never hard to tell when
> a big group of them had been in, there were marks from stray shots all
> over the place, the walls, the floors, the ceiling, the barricades
> between shooting stations....
I lived in LA during the Watts riots. It was downright comical to watch
on TV and see the amount of lead being expended with no result. By both
sides. Some of those brick buildings could probably be recycled at a
metals dealer!
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:36:04 +0000, Brian Henderson wrote:
> In fact, one of the things
> that most people go to Harbor Freight for are their clamps, you can
> never have too many and they all work fine at a great price. I've never
> had one fail on me yet, although I will admit that their bar clamps bend
> a bit, but for the price...
They have, or used to have, two "brands" of bar clamps. The "Pittsburg"
ones are pretty good - I've got a lot. The others are lower quality.
And I haven't seen one of those half-price clamp sales for quite some
time :-).
I have found some bending in the 30" ones, but only when I'm trying to
coerce a piece of wood I should have machined straighter in the first
place :-).
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw