I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed up
the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
conspicuous.
The glue foamed up, I cleaned it up and went to dinner. Three hours later
it was as strong as I hoped, but it had foamed a heck of a lot more than I
expected and some of the the foam had dripped down the work. For reasons I
won't go into now, I had already finished the parts before gluing so I have
no reasonable way to clean it up. I scrapped, sanded and refinished the
worst spots and my wife thinks it looks great. I however know that the
parts you can't see well are a mess, so I am going to rebuild the project.
(Actually I erred more than the gluing, or I would just refinish the whole
thing; the glue is just the final straw. Rebuilding it will give me the
chance to do it all correctly)
For future reference, how do you deal with the foam? Just plan and
scrapping and sanding it way, or can it somehow be contained. (Obviously
you don't use it on work that is already finished)
This will go down as my worst project to date. To bad cause the mahogany
was really pretty and now it is kindling.
Use blue tape along the joint lines... any expantion will be onto the tape,
and may be more easily removed.
Tom
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed up
>the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
>conspicuous.
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:14:55 -0700, toller wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed up
> the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
> conspicuous.
>
> The glue foamed up, I cleaned it up and went to dinner. Three hours later
> it was as strong as I hoped, but it had foamed a heck of a lot more than I
> expected and some of the the foam had dripped down the work. For reasons I
> won't go into now, I had already finished the parts before gluing so I have
> no reasonable way to clean it up. I scrapped, sanded and refinished the
> worst spots and my wife thinks it looks great. I however know that the
> parts you can't see well are a mess, so I am going to rebuild the project.
> (Actually I erred more than the gluing, or I would just refinish the whole
> thing; the glue is just the final straw. Rebuilding it will give me the
> chance to do it all correctly)
>
> For future reference, how do you deal with the foam? Just plan and
> scrapping and sanding it way, or can it somehow be contained. (Obviously
> you don't use it on work that is already finished)
>
> This will go down as my worst project to date. To bad cause the mahogany
> was really pretty and now it is kindling.
>
>
Use painters tape (the blue stuff) near the glue joints. Glue sticks to tape,
pull tape off of wood, no glue on wood!
-Bruce
Blue masking tape is the new duct tape.
-j
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Painter's blue masking tape can catch most. That plus using it
> sparingly AND coming back a hour or so later to scrape off the still
> soft foam is about all that is needed.
>
> However, in this situation there is probably NO advantage to Gorilla
> glue over something like TiteBond, where you wipe up the squeeze out
> at the time you clamp things up - and with TiteBond the blue masking
> tape is also a help
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:14:55 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed
up
> >the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
> >conspicuous.
> >
> >The glue foamed up, I cleaned it up and went to dinner. Three hours
later
> >it was as strong as I hoped, but it had foamed a heck of a lot more than
I
> >expected and some of the the foam had dripped down the work. For reasons
I
> >won't go into now, I had already finished the parts before gluing so I
have
> >no reasonable way to clean it up. I scrapped, sanded and refinished the
> >worst spots and my wife thinks it looks great. I however know that the
> >parts you can't see well are a mess, so I am going to rebuild the
project.
> >(Actually I erred more than the gluing, or I would just refinish the
whole
> >thing; the glue is just the final straw. Rebuilding it will give me the
> >chance to do it all correctly)
> >
> >For future reference, how do you deal with the foam? Just plan and
> >scrapping and sanding it way, or can it somehow be contained. (Obviously
> >you don't use it on work that is already finished)
> >
> >This will go down as my worst project to date. To bad cause the mahogany
> >was really pretty and now it is kindling.
> >
>
>
"TWS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:26:06 -0800, "J" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Blue masking tape is the new duct tape.
> >
> Actually they are quite complementary. Duct tape is very sticky and
> is intended to hold for a long long time. Blue Masking tape is
> intended to be very temporary with virtually no sticky residue.
> Between the two of them you can 'fix' 'anything'...
>
> TWS
Exactly. What I mean is that it has become indispensable.
-j
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:14:55 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed up
>the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
>conspicuous.
This is the first time I ever heard about gluing a tabletop to the
base. Tisk Tisk. Save the gorilla glue for outdoor projects.
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed up
>the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
>conspicuous.
>
> The glue foamed up, I cleaned it up and went to dinner. Three hours later
> it was as strong as I hoped, but it had foamed a heck of a lot more than I
> expected and some of the the foam had dripped down the work. For reasons
> I won't go into now, I had already finished the parts before gluing so I
> have no reasonable way to clean it up. I scrapped, sanded and refinished
> the worst spots and my wife thinks it looks great. I however know that
> the parts you can't see well are a mess, so I am going to rebuild the
> project. (Actually I erred more than the gluing, or I would just refinish
> the whole thing; the glue is just the final straw. Rebuilding it will
> give me the chance to do it all correctly)
>
> For future reference, how do you deal with the foam? Just plan and
> scrapping and sanding it way, or can it somehow be contained. (Obviously
> you don't use it on work that is already finished)
>
> This will go down as my worst project to date. To bad cause the mahogany
> was really pretty and now it is kindling.
I agree with Bob the First about gluing the top--it's an invitation for
splitting.
As for the Gorilla, be sure to use much less of it than yellow glues, and
follow the directions. (Sorry, don't mean nto crimp your manhood) A thin
layer is all you nees, since the stuff expands by several times its original
volume. It draws moisture, so you'll need to dampen one of the mating sides,
and remember to use it on the other side only.
If it foams, there are two schools of thought:
1. Wipe it off thoroughly with a damp cloth before it sets.
2. No, no! Don't rub it into the wood where it can discolor finishes. Let it
dry just past tacky and scrape thoroughly.
I've used #1 with good results, but YMMV.
Bob
Painter's blue masking tape can catch most. That plus using it
sparingly AND coming back a hour or so later to scrape off the still
soft foam is about all that is needed.
However, in this situation there is probably NO advantage to Gorilla
glue over something like TiteBond, where you wipe up the squeeze out
at the time you clamp things up - and with TiteBond the blue masking
tape is also a help
John
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:14:55 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed up
>the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
>conspicuous.
>
>The glue foamed up, I cleaned it up and went to dinner. Three hours later
>it was as strong as I hoped, but it had foamed a heck of a lot more than I
>expected and some of the the foam had dripped down the work. For reasons I
>won't go into now, I had already finished the parts before gluing so I have
>no reasonable way to clean it up. I scrapped, sanded and refinished the
>worst spots and my wife thinks it looks great. I however know that the
>parts you can't see well are a mess, so I am going to rebuild the project.
>(Actually I erred more than the gluing, or I would just refinish the whole
>thing; the glue is just the final straw. Rebuilding it will give me the
>chance to do it all correctly)
>
>For future reference, how do you deal with the foam? Just plan and
>scrapping and sanding it way, or can it somehow be contained. (Obviously
>you don't use it on work that is already finished)
>
>This will go down as my worst project to date. To bad cause the mahogany
>was really pretty and now it is kindling.
>
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:26:06 -0800, "J" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Blue masking tape is the new duct tape.
>
Actually they are quite complementary. Duct tape is very sticky and
is intended to hold for a long long time. Blue Masking tape is
intended to be very temporary with virtually no sticky residue.
Between the two of them you can 'fix' 'anything'...
TWS
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> The glue foamed up, I cleaned it up and went to dinner. Three hours later
Blue painters tape to catch squeeze/foam out around both sides of glue
lines.
Dampen one side of joint with water.
Use less.
Don't go to dinner / walk - away.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:14:55 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I glued the top of a table to the base with gorilla glue. (I had screwed up
>the design and couldn't get any mechanical fasteners in without being
>conspicuous.
>
>The glue foamed up, I cleaned it up and went to dinner. Three hours later
>it was as strong as I hoped, but it had foamed a heck of a lot more than I
>expected and some of the the foam had dripped down the work. For reasons I
>won't go into now, I had already finished the parts before gluing so I have
>no reasonable way to clean it up. I scrapped, sanded and refinished the
>worst spots and my wife thinks it looks great. I however know that the
>parts you can't see well are a mess, so I am going to rebuild the project.
>(Actually I erred more than the gluing, or I would just refinish the whole
>thing; the glue is just the final straw. Rebuilding it will give me the
>chance to do it all correctly)
>
>For future reference, how do you deal with the foam? Just plan and
>scrapping and sanding it way, or can it somehow be contained. (Obviously
>you don't use it on work that is already finished)
>
>This will go down as my worst project to date. To bad cause the mahogany
>was really pretty and now it is kindling.
>
I use Gorilla glue all the time. Mostly for it's long open time than
it's waterproofness. Yes, if it's over applied it'll foam. It cleans
up well from the surfaces you don't want it on with lacquer thinner
while it's still wet or tacky. Water doesn't work here as it does
with yellow glue. Use blue tape as others suggest.
I wouldn't rigidly attach a table top to the base. A solid wood top
has to expand/contract. Use Z clips or buttons instead.