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I got some wood jointed with my router table and shim... sort of. After
alot of trial and error adjusting the one piece fence on my Ryobi
table, I jointed two re oak boards about15 inches long and 2.5 inches
wide. When I held the two boards togther and helt it up to the outside
light while I was in a darker room, I could see light between them so I
thought I had failed. But when I clamped them togther with clamps to
see if that made a difference, they were perfect. (Or appeared that
way).
Should I have been able to se elight this way between the board and if
I have to joint more than 2 boards to form a bigger pannel will this
still work or will adding additional boards make the joint fit worse?
Also, my fnce is about 2 feet long, one foot infeed side and one foot
outfeed. Will I be able to successfully joint boards about 40 inches
long with my set up if I am careful? I need to joint some wood to
create a 13.5 inch wide pannel for a bookcase top.
Speaking of that, is there a rule of thumb to go by when glueing boards
together to form a bigger pannel? I mean, if i need a 14 inch wide
pannel, is it better to have two 7 inch wide boards jointed together or
seven 2 inch wide boards togther?
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How do I get those panels flat?
I am not sure if it was a mirror. How can I ensure I dont see light
between the boards?
dadiOH wrote:
> stryped wrote:
>
> > I got some wood jointed with my router table and shim... sort of.
> > After alot of trial and error adjusting the one piece fence on my
> > Ryobi table, I jointed two re oak boards about15 inches long and
> > 2.5 inches wide. When I held the two boards togther and helt it up
> > to the outside light while I was in a darker room, I could see
> > light between them so I thought I had failed. But when I clamped
> > them togther with clamps to see if that made a difference, they
> > were perfect. (Or appeared that way).
> >
> > Should I have been able to see light this way between the board
>
> No. Was the deficiency a mirror of what it was before joining? How
> many passes on the router table did each require? If you did
> additional passes would the edges be straight?
> ____________
>
> > and if I have to joint more than 2 boards to form a bigger pannel
> will
> > this still work or will adding additional boards make the joint fit
> > worse?
>
> That depends on many things but basically, you want the joints of each
> board touching without any help from the clamps. If you *have* to
> force them together with clamps it is best that the ends touch and any
> slight gaps be in the middle.
> ________________
>
> > Also, my fnce is about 2 feet long, one foot infeed side and one
> > foot outfeed. Will I be able to successfully joint boards about 40
> > inches long with my set up if I am careful?
>
> Yes. Besides, as I've said before, you can always make your fence
> longer. Hell, you don't even have to use the fence that came with
> your table...a couple of pieces of 3/4 ply 2"-5" wide and whatever
> long with straight edges would work just fine.
> _________________
>
> > Speaking of that, is there a rule of thumb to go by when glueing
> > boards together to form a bigger pannel? I mean, if i need a 14
> > inch wide pannel, is it better to have two 7 inch wide boards
> > jointed together or seven 2 inch wide boards togther?
>
> I like to use boards 3"-5" wide. That isn't written in stone
> however...I buy a lot of #1 common and often wind up with narrower
> boards.
>
> Next in the stryped saga, "How do I get my glued up panels flat"? :)
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
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I am interested in this sled. How does it work?
[email protected] wrote:
> On 11 Sep 2006 05:22:06 -0700, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >x-no-archive:yes
> >
> >I got some wood jointed with my router table and shim... sort of. After
> >alot of trial and error adjusting the one piece fence on my Ryobi
> >table, I jointed two re oak boards about15 inches long and 2.5 inches
> >wide. When I held the two boards togther and helt it up to the outside
> >light while I was in a darker room, I could see light between them so I
> >thought I had failed. But when I clamped them togther with clamps to
> >see if that made a difference, they were perfect. (Or appeared that
> >way).
> >
> >Should I have been able to se elight this way between the board and if
> >I have to joint more than 2 boards to form a bigger pannel will this
> >still work or will adding additional boards make the joint fit worse?
> >
> >Also, my fnce is about 2 feet long, one foot infeed side and one foot
> >outfeed. Will I be able to successfully joint boards about 40 inches
> >long with my set up if I am careful? I need to joint some wood to
> >create a 13.5 inch wide pannel for a bookcase top.
> >
> >Speaking of that, is there a rule of thumb to go by when glueing boards
> >together to form a bigger pannel? I mean, if i need a 14 inch wide
> >pannel, is it better to have two 7 inch wide boards jointed together or
> >seven 2 inch wide boards togther?
> >
> On short pieces - 2-3ft, this seems to work OK for me. When I tried
> longer lengths it never seemed to come out right. It always bowed out
> the ends. I never tried longer fence pieces and maybe should have
> tried that. I went with a sled that runs in my mitre slot. I clamp
> the work to the sled and slowly run that through. With this set up, I
> have done 5ft pieces. The same sled works on the tables saw.
>
> Pete
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Can I use the edges of hardwood flooring or angle iron for a fence?
dadiOH wrote:
> stryped wrote:
>
> > I got some wood jointed with my router table and shim... sort of.
> > After alot of trial and error adjusting the one piece fence on my
> > Ryobi table, I jointed two re oak boards about15 inches long and
> > 2.5 inches wide. When I held the two boards togther and helt it up
> > to the outside light while I was in a darker room, I could see
> > light between them so I thought I had failed. But when I clamped
> > them togther with clamps to see if that made a difference, they
> > were perfect. (Or appeared that way).
> >
> > Should I have been able to see light this way between the board
>
> No. Was the deficiency a mirror of what it was before joining? How
> many passes on the router table did each require? If you did
> additional passes would the edges be straight?
> ____________
>
> > and if I have to joint more than 2 boards to form a bigger pannel
> will
> > this still work or will adding additional boards make the joint fit
> > worse?
>
> That depends on many things but basically, you want the joints of each
> board touching without any help from the clamps. If you *have* to
> force them together with clamps it is best that the ends touch and any
> slight gaps be in the middle.
> ________________
>
> > Also, my fnce is about 2 feet long, one foot infeed side and one
> > foot outfeed. Will I be able to successfully joint boards about 40
> > inches long with my set up if I am careful?
>
> Yes. Besides, as I've said before, you can always make your fence
> longer. Hell, you don't even have to use the fence that came with
> your table...a couple of pieces of 3/4 ply 2"-5" wide and whatever
> long with straight edges would work just fine.
> _________________
>
> > Speaking of that, is there a rule of thumb to go by when glueing
> > boards together to form a bigger pannel? I mean, if i need a 14
> > inch wide pannel, is it better to have two 7 inch wide boards
> > jointed together or seven 2 inch wide boards togther?
>
> I like to use boards 3"-5" wide. That isn't written in stone
> however...I buy a lot of #1 common and often wind up with narrower
> boards.
>
> Next in the stryped saga, "How do I get my glued up panels flat"? :)
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I am interested in this sled. How does it work?
Why don't you want your posts archived? Will you ever answer this question?
On 11 Sep 2006 05:22:06 -0700, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>I got some wood jointed with my router table and shim... sort of. After
>alot of trial and error adjusting the one piece fence on my Ryobi
>table, I jointed two re oak boards about15 inches long and 2.5 inches
>wide. When I held the two boards togther and helt it up to the outside
>light while I was in a darker room, I could see light between them so I
>thought I had failed. But when I clamped them togther with clamps to
>see if that made a difference, they were perfect. (Or appeared that
>way).
>
>Should I have been able to se elight this way between the board and if
>I have to joint more than 2 boards to form a bigger pannel will this
>still work or will adding additional boards make the joint fit worse?
>
>Also, my fnce is about 2 feet long, one foot infeed side and one foot
>outfeed. Will I be able to successfully joint boards about 40 inches
>long with my set up if I am careful? I need to joint some wood to
>create a 13.5 inch wide pannel for a bookcase top.
>
>Speaking of that, is there a rule of thumb to go by when glueing boards
>together to form a bigger pannel? I mean, if i need a 14 inch wide
>pannel, is it better to have two 7 inch wide boards jointed together or
>seven 2 inch wide boards togther?
>
On short pieces - 2-3ft, this seems to work OK for me. When I tried
longer lengths it never seemed to come out right. It always bowed out
the ends. I never tried longer fence pieces and maybe should have
tried that. I went with a sled that runs in my mitre slot. I clamp
the work to the sled and slowly run that through. With this set up, I
have done 5ft pieces. The same sled works on the tables saw.
Pete
On 11 Sep 2006 12:31:26 -0700, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>I am interested in this sled. How does it work?
My router table has an aluminum miter slot in the table top, just like
on a table saw. I use a 3/4x3/8 T-track in it - 4ft long. I laid a
strip or two of masking tape in the slot to tighten up the slop
between the slot and the T-track. The 48" T-track is screwed into the
bottom of 3/8 plywood 12"x 48" positioned so that the plywood will be
slightly cut by the router bit. After assembing the sled, I chuck up
the bit I want to use for edging a board and I run the sled through
the bit. This gets the edge of the sled straight and parrallel to the
bit and helps when positioning the board overhang for jointing a
straight edge. I use 2 toggle clamps on top the sled to lock the
board into place with about 1/8 -1/4 of the board overhanging the
routed edge of the sled. Because the routed edge of the sled glides
so close to the bit, you can easily eyeball the amount of wood the
route off.
Always push the sled/board at the same speed and with the same
downward pressure. Engage the sled into the slot before the bit and
run the sled past the bit before lifting it out of the slot.
You will have an exposed bit spinning so be aware of where your body
parts are relative to the bit. Personally, I never watch my hands.
I always keep an eye on the bit and it's imaginary 3" danger zone. I
am convinced that spinning objects create a 3" gravity well that will
suck your hand into it. If you don't believe me, call NASA. Think
about a guard system.
I have a simular sled without the miter slot T-track for the tablesaw.
This uses the tablesaw fence. Clamp the board to the sled, set the
fence to take off 1/8-1/4 of the board and run the sled/board through.
This works faster than the router table when doing multiple boards of
the same width. A good ripping blade in the saw gives a nice glue
edge.
Pete
stryped wrote:
> I got some wood jointed with my router table and shim... sort of.
> After alot of trial and error adjusting the one piece fence on my
> Ryobi table, I jointed two re oak boards about15 inches long and
> 2.5 inches wide. When I held the two boards togther and helt it up
> to the outside light while I was in a darker room, I could see
> light between them so I thought I had failed. But when I clamped
> them togther with clamps to see if that made a difference, they
> were perfect. (Or appeared that way).
>
> Should I have been able to see light this way between the board
No. Was the deficiency a mirror of what it was before joining? How
many passes on the router table did each require? If you did
additional passes would the edges be straight?
____________
> and if I have to joint more than 2 boards to form a bigger pannel
will
> this still work or will adding additional boards make the joint fit
> worse?
That depends on many things but basically, you want the joints of each
board touching without any help from the clamps. If you *have* to
force them together with clamps it is best that the ends touch and any
slight gaps be in the middle.
________________
> Also, my fnce is about 2 feet long, one foot infeed side and one
> foot outfeed. Will I be able to successfully joint boards about 40
> inches long with my set up if I am careful?
Yes. Besides, as I've said before, you can always make your fence
longer. Hell, you don't even have to use the fence that came with
your table...a couple of pieces of 3/4 ply 2"-5" wide and whatever
long with straight edges would work just fine.
_________________
> Speaking of that, is there a rule of thumb to go by when glueing
> boards together to form a bigger pannel? I mean, if i need a 14
> inch wide pannel, is it better to have two 7 inch wide boards
> jointed together or seven 2 inch wide boards togther?
I like to use boards 3"-5" wide. That isn't written in stone
however...I buy a lot of #1 common and often wind up with narrower
boards.
Next in the stryped saga, "How do I get my glued up panels flat"? :)
--
dadiOH
____________________________
dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
stryped wrote:
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> Can I use the edges of hardwood flooring or angle iron for a fence?
For the 2^8 time, you can use *anything* that is flat, straight and
thick/wide enough not to bend under whatever pressure you apply to
it - which needn't be much..
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dadiOH
____________________________
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...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I got some wood jointed with my router table and shim... sort of. After
> alot of trial and error adjusting the one piece fence on my Ryobi
> table, I jointed two re oak boards about15 inches long and 2.5 inches
> wide. When I held the two boards togther and helt it up to the outside
> light while I was in a darker room, I could see light between them so I
> thought I had failed. But when I clamped them togther with clamps to
> see if that made a difference, they were perfect. (Or appeared that
> way).
>
I used to have a table top jointer. I rarely got my boards perfectly flat.
I never liked doing it, but I was always able to get them together with
enough clamping pressure. Years later nothing has failed.
If you are close (and all the errors aren't in the same direction) you ought
to be okay, but no promises; I might just have been lucky.
> Should I have been able to se elight this way between the board and if
> I have to joint more than 2 boards to form a bigger pannel will this
> still work or will adding additional boards make the joint fit worse?
>
> Also, my fnce is about 2 feet long, one foot infeed side and one foot
> outfeed. Will I be able to successfully joint boards about 40 inches
> long with my set up if I am careful? I need to joint some wood to
> create a 13.5 inch wide pannel for a bookcase top.
>
In principle your fences are long enough; rule of thumb is boards can be
twice the table length, but much depends on the user's skill. Assuming your
set up is precisely right (probably not true...) and your fences are rigid
and securely fastened, the problem is that is it much more difficult to run
a board against a fence evenly than it is to push it down against a jointer.
I often have to run a board through my router table more than once to get
the cut even; you can't do that when jointing on it because the errors just
compound.
> Speaking of that, is there a rule of thumb to go by when glueing boards
> together to form a bigger pannel? I mean, if i need a 14 inch wide
> pannel, is it better to have two 7 inch wide boards jointed together or
> seven 2 inch wide boards togther?
>
As long as your boards are flat and straight, it doesn't really matter. You
usually go for 7" because of the problems with matching grain and the amount
of work. Some would say that 2" is more stable; but grain is generally more
of an issue than stability.