jJ

04/12/2003 6:20 AM

Cabinet door construction

I am making my first cabinet door (18"x18" corners not mitered).

Since the top rail (cherry) will be 2 1/4" and the botton rail 3", I
was thinking of using a 0 biscuit at the top and a 20 biscuit at the
bottom.

For the panel, I was going to veneer both sides of 1/8" plywood with
bandsaw veneer(rails are 3/4"). Is cheap ply ok, or do I need birch?

For the face frame, I was going to use pocket screws. Since one side
of the joint will be end grain, is there any reason to use glue as
well?

Any comments?
Thanks


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Richards

in reply to [email protected] (Jim) on 04/12/2003 6:20 AM

04/12/2003 7:50 AM

Jim wrote:
> I am making my first cabinet door (18"x18" corners not mitered).
>
> Since the top rail (cherry) will be 2 1/4" and the botton rail 3", I
> was thinking of using a 0 biscuit at the top and a 20 biscuit at the
> bottom.

I use lots of biscuits in my work, but a single biscuit on a high stress
joint has given me grief. Depending on the use expected, you might
consider a mortise and tenon joint or mortise and tenon with floating
tenons.
>
> For the panel, I was going to veneer both sides of 1/8" plywood with
> bandsaw veneer(rails are 3/4"). Is cheap ply ok, or do I need birch?
>
> For the face frame, I was going to use pocket screws. Since one side
> of the joint will be end grain, is there any reason to use glue as
> well?

I use glue on all pocket screw assemblies.
>
> Any comments?
> Thanks

Rs

"Rumpty"

in reply to [email protected] (Jim) on 04/12/2003 6:20 AM

04/12/2003 12:36 PM

Put a double biscuit in each joint. Cut your first slot with a piece of 1/8"
masonite under the joiner, then flip over the wood and cut the second joint.
It is important that all pieces be the exact same 3/4" thickness for this to
work properly. A double biscuit done this way works very well.

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"Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jim wrote:
> > I am making my first cabinet door (18"x18" corners not mitered).
> >
> > Since the top rail (cherry) will be 2 1/4" and the botton rail 3", I
> > was thinking of using a 0 biscuit at the top and a 20 biscuit at the
> > bottom.
>
> I use lots of biscuits in my work, but a single biscuit on a high stress
> joint has given me grief. Depending on the use expected, you might
> consider a mortise and tenon joint or mortise and tenon with floating
> tenons.
> >
> > For the panel, I was going to veneer both sides of 1/8" plywood with
> > bandsaw veneer(rails are 3/4"). Is cheap ply ok, or do I need birch?
> >
> > For the face frame, I was going to use pocket screws. Since one side
> > of the joint will be end grain, is there any reason to use glue as
> > well?
>
> I use glue on all pocket screw assemblies.
> >
> > Any comments?
> > Thanks
>

Bb

"Brian"

in reply to [email protected] (Jim) on 04/12/2003 6:20 AM

04/12/2003 1:00 PM

I'd use glue on the face frame joints, and pocket screws in addition to the
glue. Not glue in addition to the pocket screws. :-)

Brian.

"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am making my first cabinet door (18"x18" corners not mitered).
>
> Since the top rail (cherry) will be 2 1/4" and the botton rail 3", I
> was thinking of using a 0 biscuit at the top and a 20 biscuit at the
> bottom.
>
> For the panel, I was going to veneer both sides of 1/8" plywood with
> bandsaw veneer(rails are 3/4"). Is cheap ply ok, or do I need birch?
>
> For the face frame, I was going to use pocket screws. Since one side
> of the joint will be end grain, is there any reason to use glue as
> well?
>
> Any comments?
> Thanks

Rs

"Rumpty"

in reply to [email protected] (Jim) on 04/12/2003 6:20 AM

04/12/2003 12:38 PM

I'd biscuit the face frame together too.

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Rumpty

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