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"stryped"

07/02/2006 10:53 AM

Newbie stain question.

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New to woodworking. Wanting to build a headboard and some furnature for
my sons room. I have some white oak boards for face frames. What wood
or plywood can I use for the caracass of a night stand and top for it
that would stain the same way the white oak will. Same with a
headboard. Is birch plywood the way to go? Seems I have never seen
white oak plywood around here. It just says oak so I am not sure what
kind of oak it is.


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"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 11:35 AM

Yes, typical Oak ply you will find at Home Depot, etc. will be Red Oak.
You can get White Oak ply, plain, rift or quarter sawn. You just need
to locate any lumber supplier that supplies the cabinet industry. As
far as getting something to match, I think using Red Oak and playing
with the stain color using different mixtures for each would be the
best bet. You might try using some basic color for the Red Oak then use
the same stain and mix in some other stain that is mostly orange to
redden up the white Oak.Trial and error.

You might be able to find some wood that would be closer in color but
the grain of Oak is very prominent and not much else matches. Another
option is to go with a contrasting wood like Mahogany, Cherry or even
Maple. It won't be too standard but could work out OK.

Jj

"Josh"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 11:46 AM

The oak plywood at the borg is generally red oak. You can find a stain
color that looks good on that and then try to match it on the white oak
by mixing in a little bit of stain with a red tint to it (e.g. cherry).
It'll take a little experimentation.

The Hardwood Store (happens to be near me) has white oak plywood.

http://www.hardwoodstore.com/plywood.html

Since you claim to be a newbie, here's another piece of advice: oak is
VERY porous. Be very careful when gluing, as any glue which gets on
the wood will be absorbed into the pores and will block the stain from
absorbing. If you can, stain the individual pieces before gluing.
Otherwise, be extra careful to immediately clean up any glue drips with
a damp cloth or sponge.

Josh

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"stryped"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 12:05 PM

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Would it be ok to use solid wood throughout instead of plywood? Glueing
togther white oak bards to form a pannel?
Josh wrote:
> The oak plywood at the borg is generally red oak. You can find a stain
> color that looks good on that and then try to match it on the white oak
> by mixing in a little bit of stain with a red tint to it (e.g. cherry).
> It'll take a little experimentation.
>
> The Hardwood Store (happens to be near me) has white oak plywood.
>
> http://www.hardwoodstore.com/plywood.html
>
> Since you claim to be a newbie, here's another piece of advice: oak is
> VERY porous. Be very careful when gluing, as any glue which gets on
> the wood will be absorbed into the pores and will block the stain from
> absorbing. If you can, stain the individual pieces before gluing.
> Otherwise, be extra careful to immediately clean up any glue drips with
> a damp cloth or sponge.
>
> Josh

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"stryped"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 12:36 PM

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I always heard plywood was more stable.
George wrote:
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Would it be ok to use solid wood throughout instead of plywood? Glueing
> > togther white oak bards to form a pannel?
>
> Depending on your location, might be cheaper than buying hardwood plywood to
> resaw the solid. Is for me on cherry and maple, close even on birch, and
> nobody makes black ash plywood....

Jj

"Josh"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 12:52 PM

Yes. That's how I would likely do it. Jointing and edge gluing works
just fine. Again, be careful about glue oozing out of the joint,
though.

GG

"George"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 3:23 PM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Would it be ok to use solid wood throughout instead of plywood? Glueing
> togther white oak bards to form a pannel?

Depending on your location, might be cheaper than buying hardwood plywood to
resaw the solid. Is for me on cherry and maple, close even on birch, and
nobody makes black ash plywood....

GG

"George"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 5:56 PM


"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I always heard plywood was more stable.

Should have listened a bit longer. The reason for framing a floating panel
is to keep out the dust without having to worry about wood movement.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 7:41 PM

On 7 Feb 2006 10:53:12 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>New to woodworking. Wanting to build a headboard and some furnature for
>my sons room. I have some white oak boards for face frames. What wood
>or plywood can I use for the caracass of a night stand and top for it
>that would stain the same way the white oak will. Same with a
>headboard. Is birch plywood the way to go? Seems I have never seen
>white oak plywood around here. It just says oak so I am not sure what
>kind of oak it is.


Your best bet is to use the same wood for all exposed areas for the
most even stain/finish. Ply or hardboard can be used for drawer
bottoms and the backs of cabinets. For parts that don't show you can
use poplar. If you are not sure the end result, take samples and
stain/finish those before you begin a project.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "stryped" on 07/02/2006 10:53 AM

07/02/2006 8:42 PM

stryped wrote:
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> Would it be ok to use solid wood throughout instead of plywood?
> Glueing togther white oak bards to form a pannel?

Sure. If you (ugh) stain it, the stain should look better too because
just because ply is the same species it doesn't mean it would stain the
same as the lumber you have.

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