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"Fred"

29/01/2008 1:52 PM

Bosch 1617 powerful enough?

I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be building
around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router is
powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?


This topic has 11 replies

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 2:25 PM

"Fred" wrote:

>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be building
>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router
>is
>powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?

It's not a question of power, it's a question of RPMs.

Check the R&S bits form the max RPMs allowable.

My guess is well below 25,000, probably closer to 10,000 Max.

What is the min RPM setting for the 1617?

Lew

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

28/01/2008 2:27 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Fred" wrote:
>
>>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be
>>building
>>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router
>>is
>>powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>
> It's not a question of power, it's a question of RPMs.
>
> Check the R&S bits form the max RPMs allowable.
>
> My guess is well below 25,000, probably closer to 10,000 Max.
>
> What is the min RPM setting for the 1617?
>
> Lew
>
>

You can safely run the rail and stile bits much faster and or around 17,000
but the raised panel bits will need to be slowed way down to the rpm's that
you are talking about.

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 7:45 PM


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>> Absolutely.
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>> jc
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>> "Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be
>>>building around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if
>>>the router is powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Typically those bits are about 1.25" in diameter and you will want to slow
> the speed a notch. Spinning a 3" raised panel bit will require 10,000 rpm
> and more router than the 1617 evs if you want it to last.

He can do it with the 1617 *if* he takes smaller "bites". Will require more
passes but..........

Max

Ra

"Roger amd Missy Behnke"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 3:15 PM

I have been using mine for rail and stile doors and have had no problems.

Roger
"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be building
>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router
>is powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 6:42 PM

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:25:50 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What is the min RPM setting for the 1617?

Per my owners manual, the variable speed model, 1617EVS, Dial
Settings/No Load Speeds are:

1/8,000
2/13,500
3/16,500
4/20,000
5/21,500
6/25,000

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 11:32 PM

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:52:27 -0500, "Fred" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be building
>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router is
>powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?


It is, if you do multiple passes and if you have the variable speed
version of that router. I've probably done 125 doors with just that
setup, in various oaks, maple, poplar, birch, walnut, and MDF. Just
last week, I built a frame and panel doll crib using a Freud cope and
stick door bit.

If the router isn't variable speed, you may have a problem. Large
bits need to be slowed down, they can get hairy in a hurry @ 25,000
RPM. The larger the bit, the faster the carbide out at the tips is
traveling through space.

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 4:18 PM

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:52:27 -0500, "Fred" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be building
>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router is
>powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>

Of course, it's no help if you're looking for an excuse to get a
bigger router, but like the other posts said, the Bosch 1617 will
handle it fine.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

28/01/2008 2:25 AM


"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Absolutely.
>
> jc
>
> "Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be
>>building around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if
>>the router is powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>>
>
>

Typically those bits are about 1.25" in diameter and you will want to slow
the speed a notch. Spinning a 3" raised panel bit will require 10,000 rpm
and more router than the 1617 evs if you want it to last.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

28/01/2008 2:31 AM


"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:52:27 -0500, "Fred" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be
>>building
>>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router
>>is
>>powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>
>
> It is, if you do multiple passes and if you have the variable speed
> version of that router. I've probably done 125 doors with just that
> setup, in various oaks, maple, poplar, birch, walnut, and MDF. Just
> last week, I built a frame and panel doll crib using a Freud cope and
> stick door bit.
>
> If the router isn't variable speed, you may have a problem. Large
> bits need to be slowed down, they can get hairy in a hurry @ 25,000
> RPM. The larger the bit, the faster the carbide out at the tips is
> traveling through space.
>
>

Totally agree but both of my sets of rail & stile bits are under 2" in
diameter. Bits 2" and under are safe up to 18,000.

SW

"Skip Williams"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 3:42 PM

Yep...but you may want to slow it down a bit when spinning big bits (if you
have the VS version)...
Mine does just fine.

Skip
www.ShopFileR.com



"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be building
>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router
>is powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>

Ji

"Joe"

in reply to "Fred" on 29/01/2008 1:52 PM

27/01/2008 8:04 PM

Absolutely.

jc

"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have a 1-3/4 HP Bosch 1617 mounted in my table. I am going to be building
>around 15 doors for my kitchen cabinets and I was wondering if the router
>is powerful enough to use stile and rail bits?
>


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