HM

"HMFIC@1369"

07/03/2005 10:01 PM

Made my First Cabinet Doors (I'm so proud) almost like a new parent!

Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be finishing
it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was going to
buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going to rip
4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them via
tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the top and
bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width, this
should resist any warping whatsoever!

I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm using
the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the red
oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!



This topic has 14 replies

JB

"Jim Bailey"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

07/03/2005 11:17 PM

That was my thought - I've been trying to learn a bit about fininshing
(flexner book, web, here, etc) and I was under the impression that that
polyurethane sealed the wood - a top coat. The stain penetrates after that ?
I'm getting confused.

jim

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Huh? You are putting stain on AFTER Polyshades?? That I've got to see.
>
> Dave
>
> HMFIC@1369 wrote:
>
> > Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be
finishing
> > it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
> > people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was going
to
> > buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going to
rip
> > 4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them via
> > tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the top
and
> > bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width,
this
> > should resist any warping whatsoever!
> >
> > I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm
using
> > the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the
red
> > oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!
> >
> >
> >

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

08/03/2005 2:24 PM


"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:FO6Xd.48456$ya6.7984@trndny01...
> Well I've made tons of furniture. all by the book. Maple is a soft wood,
> and
> what I think is happening is that the coat of Polyshade as like a
> pre-finish. after it dries, I use a foam brush for the red oak. When that
> dries I hand rub a poly on and it's perfect!!! What I get is a lighter
> more
> golden red oak!

If you have made tons of furniture, how have you avoided making cabinet
doors up until this time and not realize that Maple is also a very hard
wood.

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

08/03/2005 2:36 PM

Who are you? Nothing to do? Just a waste of time, huh? Well call me when you
get a clue!


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:FO6Xd.48456$ya6.7984@trndny01...
> > Well I've made tons of furniture. all by the book. Maple is a soft wood,
> > and
> > what I think is happening is that the coat of Polyshade as like a
> > pre-finish. after it dries, I use a foam brush for the red oak. When
that
> > dries I hand rub a poly on and it's perfect!!! What I get is a lighter
> > more
> > golden red oak!
>
> If you have made tons of furniture, how have you avoided making cabinet
> doors up until this time and not realize that Maple is also a very hard
> wood.
>
>

DD

David

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

08/03/2005 12:02 PM

:)

Dave

Leon wrote:

>
> If you have made tons of furniture, how have you avoided making cabinet
> doors up until this time and not realize that Maple is also a very hard
> wood.
>
>

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

08/03/2005 1:00 AM

Well I've made tons of furniture. all by the book. Maple is a soft wood, and
what I think is happening is that the coat of Polyshade as like a
pre-finish. after it dries, I use a foam brush for the red oak. When that
dries I hand rub a poly on and it's perfect!!! What I get is a lighter more
golden red oak!


"Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That was my thought - I've been trying to learn a bit about fininshing
> (flexner book, web, here, etc) and I was under the impression that that
> polyurethane sealed the wood - a top coat. The stain penetrates after that
?
> I'm getting confused.
>
> jim
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Huh? You are putting stain on AFTER Polyshades?? That I've got to see.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > HMFIC@1369 wrote:
> >
> > > Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be
> finishing
> > > it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
> > > people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was
going
> to
> > > buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going
to
> rip
> > > 4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them
via
> > > tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the
top
> and
> > > bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width,
> this
> > > should resist any warping whatsoever!
> > >
> > > I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm
> using
> > > the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the
> red
> > > oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

HN

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

09/03/2005 5:40 AM

Leon, don't bust my chops.reread the subject line.... does that convince
anyone what I'm talking about? You aren't adding anything to the discussion
are you? Your trying to make a point to bust my chops. Maple is a soft wood
because you can make an impression on it with you finger nail and Minwax
FAQ's will also tell you it's a soft wood. You didn't put me on the spot,
there was just no point to your post.

If you have made tons of furniture, how have you avoided making cabinet
doors up until this time and not realize that Maple is also a very hard
wood


I've made benches, chairs and tables and one summer helped build 2 houses.
Which really doesn't say much as to why I never built cabinets.... Just
never had the need too.



"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:9MiXd.53269$s16.51348@trndny02...
> > Who are you? Nothing to do? Just a waste of time, huh? Well call me when
> > you
> > get a clue!
>
>
> You sounded like you were trying to convince someone that you knew what
you
> were talking about. My questions were really simple had you really known
> what you were talking about. Sorry if I put you on the spot or
embarrassed
> you.
>
>

DD

David

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

07/03/2005 5:46 PM

Sounds more like the technique (but not the materials) for doing a glaze.

Dave

HMFIC@1369 wrote:

> Well I've made tons of furniture. all by the book. Maple is a soft wood, and
> what I think is happening is that the coat of Polyshade as like a
> pre-finish. after it dries, I use a foam brush for the red oak. When that
> dries I hand rub a poly on and it's perfect!!! What I get is a lighter more
> golden red oak!
>
>
> "Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>That was my thought - I've been trying to learn a bit about fininshing
>>(flexner book, web, here, etc) and I was under the impression that that
>>polyurethane sealed the wood - a top coat. The stain penetrates after that
>
> ?
>
>>I'm getting confused.
>>
>>jim
>>
>>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Huh? You are putting stain on AFTER Polyshades?? That I've got to see.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>HMFIC@1369 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be
>>
>>finishing
>>
>>>>it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
>>>>people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was
>
> going
>
>>to
>>
>>>>buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going
>
> to
>
>>rip
>>
>>>>4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them
>
> via
>
>>>>tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the
>
> top
>
>>and
>>
>>>>bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width,
>>
>>this
>>
>>>>should resist any warping whatsoever!
>>>>
>>>>I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm
>>
>>using
>>
>>>>the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the
>>
>>red
>>
>>>>oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

08/03/2005 11:04 PM


"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9MiXd.53269$s16.51348@trndny02...
> Who are you? Nothing to do? Just a waste of time, huh? Well call me when
> you
> get a clue!


You sounded like you were trying to convince someone that you knew what you
were talking about. My questions were really simple had you really known
what you were talking about. Sorry if I put you on the spot or embarrassed
you.

HN

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

09/03/2005 5:49 AM

How profound! Nit much going on Huh?


"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> :)
>
> Dave
>
> Leon wrote:
>
> >
> > If you have made tons of furniture, how have you avoided making cabinet
> > doors up until this time and not realize that Maple is also a very hard
> > wood.
> >
> >

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

08/03/2005 12:50 AM

Yup! and it works perfect! I'll post a picture tomorrow.



"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Huh? You are putting stain on AFTER Polyshades?? That I've got to see.
>
> Dave
>
> HMFIC@1369 wrote:
>
> > Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be
finishing
> > it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
> > people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was going
to
> > buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going to
rip
> > 4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them via
> > tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the top
and
> > bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width,
this
> > should resist any warping whatsoever!
> >
> > I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm
using
> > the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the
red
> > oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!
> >
> >
> >

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

08/03/2005 2:59 AM

never did a glaze......... next project!
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sounds more like the technique (but not the materials) for doing a glaze.
>
> Dave
>
> HMFIC@1369 wrote:
>
> > Well I've made tons of furniture. all by the book. Maple is a soft wood,
and
> > what I think is happening is that the coat of Polyshade as like a
> > pre-finish. after it dries, I use a foam brush for the red oak. When
that
> > dries I hand rub a poly on and it's perfect!!! What I get is a lighter
more
> > golden red oak!
> >
> >
> > "Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>That was my thought - I've been trying to learn a bit about fininshing
> >>(flexner book, web, here, etc) and I was under the impression that that
> >>polyurethane sealed the wood - a top coat. The stain penetrates after
that
> >
> > ?
> >
> >>I'm getting confused.
> >>
> >>jim
> >>
> >>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>>Huh? You are putting stain on AFTER Polyshades?? That I've got to
see.
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>
> >>>HMFIC@1369 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be
> >>
> >>finishing
> >>
> >>>>it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
> >>>>people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was
> >
> > going
> >
> >>to
> >>
> >>>>buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going
> >
> > to
> >
> >>rip
> >>
> >>>>4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them
> >
> > via
> >
> >>>>tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the
> >
> > top
> >
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width,
> >>
> >>this
> >>
> >>>>should resist any warping whatsoever!
> >>>>
> >>>>I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm
> >>
> >>using
> >>
> >>>>the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the
> >>
> >>red
> >>
> >>>>oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

DD

David

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

07/03/2005 2:17 PM

Huh? You are putting stain on AFTER Polyshades?? That I've got to see.

Dave

HMFIC@1369 wrote:

> Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be finishing
> it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
> people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was going to
> buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going to rip
> 4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them via
> tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the top and
> bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width, this
> should resist any warping whatsoever!
>
> I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm using
> the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the red
> oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!
>
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

09/03/2005 3:17 PM


"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:H%vXd.31419$QQ3.644@trnddc02...
> Leon, don't bust my chops.reread the subject line.... does that convince
> anyone what I'm talking about? You aren't adding anything to the
> discussion
> are you? Your trying to make a point to bust my chops. Maple is a soft
> wood
> because you can make an impression on it with you finger nail and Minwax
> FAQ's will also tell you it's a soft wood. You didn't put me on the spot,
> there was just no point to your post.

I cannot understand why you are so defensive. I was asking a question about
your comments and you took offence.


> I've made benches, chairs and tables and one summer helped build 2 houses.
> Which really doesn't say much as to why I never built cabinets.... Just
> never had the need too.

That was the answer I was looking for. Thanks




>
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:9MiXd.53269$s16.51348@trndny02...
>> > Who are you? Nothing to do? Just a waste of time, huh? Well call me
>> > when
>> > you
>> > get a clue!
>>
>>
>> You sounded like you were trying to convince someone that you knew what
> you
>> were talking about. My questions were really simple had you really
>> known
>> what you were talking about. Sorry if I put you on the spot or
> embarrassed
>> you.
>>
>>
>
>

DJ

"Dave Jackson"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 07/03/2005 10:01 PM

07/03/2005 10:46 PM

hhmmmmm. Around here 84 lumber is called 42 Lumber, cuz they usually have
only half of what you need, or sometimes 168 Lumber, cuz it takes them twice
as long to deliver than promised! Congrats on your success, post some
pics! --dave


"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Ba4Xd.92169$g16.80173@trndny08...
> Finished cutting, planing and routing. Perfection! Next will be finishing
> it! I ended up going to 84 Lumber Ramsey, very helpful and really nice
> people. Much better then Lowes, Home Depot and my local..... I was going
> to
> buy 13 & 20 inch stock and yeah warping was an issue, but I was going to
> rip
> 4 inch pieces. I decided just cutting up 1" x 3.5". and joining them via
> tongue and grove. but I also pre-drilled .25" 1 inch inside from the top
> and
> bottom across the width and hammering a glued dowel across the width, this
> should resist any warping whatsoever!
>
> I also experimented GREATLY and found a great consistent color. I'm using
> the first coat of Polyshades (minwax) Pecan Satin, then I wipe on the red
> oak stain and finish with the satin wipe on poly... Cool!
>
>
>


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