I want to put some stripes onto a panel with stain. Is this something
I can realistically do, and maintain a clear, crisp edge between the
dark and light stripes? Perhaps score some lines with a knife to keep
the stain from "running" down the grain?
The important thing (to me) is the whole striping effect. The greater
the contrast between light and dark wood, the better. I don't want to
just paint it. That would be boring. I will put a clear finish over
the panel (probably laquer) if that makes any difference.
Ok, so whaddaya think?
-Phil Crow
Sat, Oct 18, 2003, 6:39am (EDT-3) [email protected] (Phil=A0Crow)
wants to know:
I want to put some stripes onto a panel with stain <snip>
I would say you've answered your own question. If it wouldn't
bleed, you could use tape. But, I'm pretty sure you're not going to get
any stain that woudn't bleed a bit. I would take more care along the
score lines, and practice first.
I've never heard of it done using stain, only with dyes, or inks,
and they do bleed. Well, I guess describing dyes and inks as stains
would be accuate enough.
JOAT
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Phil, most of the people on this newsgroup are simpletons who will
probably encourage you to take the easy way out and paint it. The
wreck is not what it used to be. Too many assholes, cheapskates and
lazy types.
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On 18 Oct 2003 06:39:16 -0700, [email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote:
>I want to put some stripes onto a panel with stain. Is this something
>I can realistically do,
BTDT. Run a sharp marking knife down to delimit the edges first.
Experiment first ! It works for some combinations of stains and
timbers, but I can't say for yours.
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why couldn't you spray on tinted top coats, like laquer. Mask off the
sections and spray the sections with different batches of tinted laq.
Finish it off with clear to get the surface even.
dave
Phil Crow wrote:
> I want to put some stripes onto a panel with stain. Is this something
> I can realistically do, and maintain a clear, crisp edge between the
> dark and light stripes? Perhaps score some lines with a knife to keep
> the stain from "running" down the grain?
>
> The important thing (to me) is the whole striping effect. The greater
> the contrast between light and dark wood, the better. I don't want to
> just paint it. That would be boring. I will put a clear finish over
> the panel (probably laquer) if that makes any difference.
>
> Ok, so whaddaya think?
>
> -Phil Crow
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote:
>I want to put some stripes onto a panel with stain. Is this something
>I can realistically do, and maintain a clear, crisp edge between the
>dark and light stripes? Perhaps score some lines with a knife to keep
>the stain from "running" down the grain?
I think your results will depend on what kind of wood you're using and
how well you can control the capillary action which draws the stain into
and between the wood fibers.
One strategy might be to apply some sort of sealant to the wood and then
perhaps sanding lightly so that the stain can't penetrate very deeply into
the wood.
Another possibility is to use a stain that's thick enough that it won't
be drawn up into the fibers. Clearly, very thin water based, alcohol based,
and oil based stains won't work very well. You want something thick, such
as a gel based stain.
You should also consider how you're going to form the stripes. You could
mask the light areas with masking tape and then apply the stain, but that
leaves open the possibility that stain might get under the edge of the
tape and ruin your sharp edge. Instead, I'd use tape to mask off the dark
areas of the piece, and then spray on a couple light coats of lacquer or
whatever clear finish you settle on. Then, after you carefully remove the
tape, you can wipe on the stain. After you wipe off the excess stain and
let the panel dry, you can spray the whole thing with a few more coats of
lacquer.
T. wrote:
> I would say you've answered your own question. If it wouldn't
> bleed, you could use tape. But, I'm pretty sure you're not going to get
> any stain that woudn't bleed a bit. I would take more care along the
> score lines, and practice first.
I did something similar to the OP's request with my chess board, and I can
pretty much confirm your suspicions. Even with the contrasting areas
separted by saw kerfs, with extremely careful masking, and with delicate
application of stain, bleeding was a real problem.
I think the OP can rule out every sort of thing that penetrates, and
probably need to be thinking about toning instead of staining.
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On 18 Oct 2003 06:39:16 -0700, [email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote:
>I want to put some stripes onto a panel with stain. Is this something
>I can realistically do, and maintain a clear, crisp edge between the
>dark and light stripes? Perhaps score some lines with a knife to keep
>the stain from "running" down the grain?
>
>The important thing (to me) is the whole striping effect. The greater
>the contrast between light and dark wood, the better. I don't want to
>just paint it. That would be boring. I will put a clear finish over
>the panel (probably laquer) if that makes any difference.
>
>Ok, so whaddaya think?
>
>-Phil Crow
I think I'd make the panel up out of contrasting strips of wood and
apply a clear finish.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote:
> Ok, so whaddaya think?
I think you oughta pick up your freshly sharpened #2 Ticonderoga
because...
It's test time, Phil.
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Jeff Jewitt commentd on a technique that is in his new book due out in
a few months on his forum. Seems closely related to the question.
Visit www.homesteadfinishing.com forums. You can ask questions there
as well.
On 18 Oct 2003 06:39:16 -0700, [email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote:
>I want to put some stripes onto a panel with stain. Is this something
>I can realistically do, and maintain a clear, crisp edge between the
>dark and light stripes? Perhaps score some lines with a knife to keep
>the stain from "running" down the grain?