Slightly OT -- drywall

On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:43:05 -0700 (PDT), "Gramp's shop"
<[email protected]> wrote:

<<much snippage about replacing T&G with drywall or painting>>
>
>Yup. I went the paint route on about 60 linear feet of T&G and getting the beadwork covered is just an awful job with a brush. I like the airless sprayer option, but have never worked with one before.
>
>Larry

If you know someone that has one, a HVLP will have MUCH less
overspray...not to say that there won't BE some, but much less than
with an airless.

That said, if you're in the area, I do have an airless that you can
use...cheap, too...I lend for beer

well, good beer

Mike

Ping me.

Lew

"Gramp's shop" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with drywall
or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the latter,
I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.

I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a PITA.

Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?


Roll the paneling with pigmented shellac [KILZ or ZINSER], float it like new
drywall. Texture and paint, Voila!

Dave in Texas

On 8/4/2012 1:58 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with drywall
> or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the latter,
> I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>
> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a PITA.
>
> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?
>
> Larry

I would paint over it. TSP, prime, then paint.. quick easy, new look.
Nice texture from the beads.

How was the paneling put up, and what's behind it.
If glued (probably not), yea PITA..
if nailed, it should come down very easily.
Usually number 4 finish nails.

I would not cover over it. Just paint it or tear it down.

On 8/4/2012 12:58 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with drywall
> or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the latter,
> I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>
> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a PITA.
>
> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?
>
> Larry


Pulling the paneling down should not take up much more than a few hours,
you are tearing it down, no precision needed.

On Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:27:44 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 3:00 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>
> > On 8/4/2012 1:58 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
>
> >> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
>
> >> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with drywall
>
> >> or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the latter,
>
> >> I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>
> >>
>
> >> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a PITA.
>
> >>
>
> >> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?
>
> >>
>
> >> Larry
>
> >
>
> > I would paint over it. TSP, prime, then paint.. quick easy, new look.
>
> > Nice texture from the beads.
>
> >
>
> > How was the paneling put up, and what's behind it.
>
> > If glued (probably not), yea PITA..
>
> > if nailed, it should come down very easily.
>
> > Usually number 4 finish nails.
>
> >
>
> > I would not cover over it. Just paint it or tear it down.
>
>
>
> While painting sounds easy, it is not. You will literally spend hours
>
> getting the paint into the little recess in the wood surface. This is a
>
> small brush job. Once you think you are done you will have to go over it
>
> several more times as more will be reveled once you get away from it.
>
>
>
> With ours, that we tried to paint and was never happy with the way it
>
> looked, the next time we decided to paint it, it was coming down, and
>
> dry wall was going up.

Yup. I went the paint route on about 60 linear feet of T&G and getting the beadwork covered is just an awful job with a brush. I like the airless sprayer option, but have never worked with one before.

Larry

Gramp's shop wrote:
> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with
> drywall or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the
> latter, I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>
> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a
> PITA.
> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?

One of the main purposes of sheetrock is fire retardation and 1/4" drywall
has almost none.

So, then, what advantage does the drywall have over your paneling?

You can wallpaper the paneling. You can texture and paint the paneling (same
as drywall). You can even paint the paneling!

The latter would be my choice - perhaps something like milk paint, diluted
almost transparent white, to give it a completely old-style look. Thinking
on it, I'd probably put a chair rail around the room and paint only the top
part. The unpainted part would then resemble wainscotting.

You could cover the paneling with magnetic whiteboard material (got kids?).
This would enable you to cut out pictures of chickens and 60's era MG
automobiles from various sources and stick them to the walls with tiny
magnets.

So many possibilities, so little time.

On 8/4/12 1:03 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 12:58 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
>> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
>> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with drywall
>> or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the latter,
>> I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>>
>> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a PITA.
>>
>> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?
>>
>> Larry
>
>
> Pulling the paneling down should not take up much more than a few hours,
> you are tearing it down, no precision needed.


Plus, you will be inside the walls to see anything that might need
repaired, or to easily take the bow out of a stud or two that is causing
a wave along the wall, which will make the drywall job look much better.


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On 8/4/2012 3:00 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 1:58 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
>> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
>> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with drywall
>> or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the latter,
>> I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>>
>> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a PITA.
>>
>> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?
>>
>> Larry
>
> I would paint over it. TSP, prime, then paint.. quick easy, new look.
> Nice texture from the beads.
>
> How was the paneling put up, and what's behind it.
> If glued (probably not), yea PITA..
> if nailed, it should come down very easily.
> Usually number 4 finish nails.
>
> I would not cover over it. Just paint it or tear it down.

While painting sounds easy, it is not. You will literally spend hours
getting the paint into the little recess in the wood surface. This is a
small brush job. Once you think you are done you will have to go over it
several more times as more will be reveled once you get away from it.

With ours, that we tried to paint and was never happy with the way it
looked, the next time we decided to paint it, it was coming down, and
dry wall was going up.

On 8/4/2012 7:27 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 8/4/2012 3:00 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> On 8/4/2012 1:58 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
>>> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
>>> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with drywall
>>> or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the latter,
>>> I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>>>
>>> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a
>>> PITA.
>>>
>>> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?
>>>
>>> Larry
>>
>> I would paint over it. TSP, prime, then paint.. quick easy, new look.
>> Nice texture from the beads.
>>
>> How was the paneling put up, and what's behind it.
>> If glued (probably not), yea PITA..
>> if nailed, it should come down very easily.
>> Usually number 4 finish nails.
>>
>> I would not cover over it. Just paint it or tear it down.
>
> While painting sounds easy, it is not. You will literally spend hours
> getting the paint into the little recess in the wood surface. This is a
> small brush job. Once you think you are done you will have to go over it
> several more times as more will be reveled once you get away from it.

Don't brush or roll, spray! Rent a decent airless sprayer, Tape and
mask EVERYTHING you don't want painted, in less than an hour you could
spray 3 light coats, and have a beautiful new look.

>
> With ours, that we tried to paint and was never happy with the way it
> looked, the next time we decided to paint it, it was coming down, and
> dry wall was going up.

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:49:43 -0500, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Gramp's shop wrote:
>> SWMBO has been after me for some time to get rid of the dark T&G
>> paneling in the den. I can either rip it down and replace with
>> drywall or I'm thinking I can cover it with 1/4 inch drywall. If the
>> latter, I'd need to rout 1/4 inch recess on the window and door trim.
>>
>> I'm leaning toward the latter approach as the teardown looks like a
>> PITA.
>> Any downsides to 1/4 inch sheetrock?
>
<<snip>>
>You could cover the paneling with magnetic whiteboard material (got kids?).
>This would enable you to cut out pictures of chickens and 60's era MG
>automobiles from various sources and stick them to the walls with tiny
>magnets.
>
>So many possibilities, so little time.

As soon as I read the magnetic part, I thought "Or maybe a wall of
chalkboard paint!" and again....got kids? Grandkids?

Hell, I'm a grammpa and I'd sure like it!!!

I did do something similar to that in my basement shop...painted a
couple of cabinet doors with chalkboard paint and I can use it for
quick notes and messages to self.

Mike
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