Swingman said:
>http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
LMAO - Funny, I believe I have that same glue bottle bought some years
ago. I've since found that a bondo spreader works better for me.
In use, the rubber sleeve moves around on the plastic roller and jams,
and the pins slip out of the jaws at the least opportune times.
When I see things like this today, I tend to move on to another
product, because they have put as little time into engineering and
testing these products as in translating their version of the
instructions.
Of course, there are exceptions. At least Lee Valley provides a
readable translation on the items they sell - so far...
Greg G.
Toller wrote:
> Could you do better in Chinese?
>
Irrelevant. I'm not selling anything in China. They are selling in
English speaking countries, probably produces the bulk of their import
income. Is it worth $50 or $75 to them to hire a writer who can reduce
the label to something other than Chinglish gibberish? Obviously not,
as none of them bother.
It's known as customer service and we bitch like crazy when a U.S.
company dumps bad CS on us.
Which Chinese dialect, by the way. I understand there are at least 300.
Greg G. wrote:
> CW said:
>
> >Or the user manual for a Japanese CNC control.
> >
>
> I bet. Some of the manuals are still not all that great.
>
> [POT]
> But I guess what with the Chinese and Japanese collaborating and
> gearing up for closer economic ties, that's not something we'll have
> to worry about any more.
>
> We can just grow food and spread democracy.
>
>
> >"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> If you think that is bad, try deciphering the alignment instructions
> >> for a piece of complex Japanese electronics test gear from - oh, say,
> >> the early 1970s. Now THAT's Greek!
>
As an agricultural supplier to the world, with our base strength inside
the U.S. being based on those who ask "Do you want fries with that?" we
won't have the money to spread democacy any more.
CW said:
>Or the user manual for a Japanese CNC control.
>
I bet. Some of the manuals are still not all that great.
[POT]
But I guess what with the Chinese and Japanese collaborating and
gearing up for closer economic ties, that's not something we'll have
to worry about any more.
We can just grow food and spread democracy.
>"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> If you think that is bad, try deciphering the alignment instructions
>> for a piece of complex Japanese electronics test gear from - oh, say,
>> the early 1970s. Now THAT's Greek!
Greg G.
Or the user manual for a Japanese CNC control.
"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If you think that is bad, try deciphering the alignment instructions
> for a piece of complex Japanese electronics test gear from - oh, say,
> the early 1970s. Now THAT's Greek!
I did by the product. Even if the instruction sheet was well done, it
wouldn't have made the bottle any less the piece of crap it was.
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Toller" wrote in message
> >> Could you do better in Chinese?
> >
> > If I was selling products there I'd show a bit of respect and hire
someone
> > who could.
> >
> Did you buy the product? Would you have paid more for better English?
> Then why should they bother?
>
>
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
>
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I guess some one from the local news paper wrote the instructions. ;~)
"Battleax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>
> While the translation is poor in this example and in the original poster's
> image, they are both completly understandable.
>
Cool!
"Toller" wrote in message
>
> "Swingman" wrote in message
>
> > "Toller" wrote in message
> >> Could you do better in Chinese?
> >
> > If I was selling products there I'd show a bit of respect and hire
someone
> > who could.
> >
> Did you buy the product? Would you have paid more for better English?
> Then why should they bother?
Only if I was concerned as a business with providing a good product and
serving the customer well in the process ... old fashioned ideas that are
obviously not only foreign to the Taiwanese.
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"Greg G." wrote in message
> Swingman said:
>
> >http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
>
> LMAO - Funny, I believe I have that same glue bottle bought some years
> ago. I've since found that a bondo spreader works better for me.
> In use, the rubber sleeve moves around on the plastic roller and jams,
> and the pins slip out of the jaws at the least opportune times.
Actually, they must have improved the device. I needed something today to
laminate 2 x 12's into 3 x 12's and didn't want to use a glue brush, so I
picked that up mainly for the rollers (can't find the proverbial "printing
supply house" locally .... they must have all moved to Taiwan, you reckon?).
It did the job nicely and in a fraction of the time.
I did get a kick out of the instructions, though ... thought they would be
worth at least a chuckle, but I obviously didn't take into account the
politically correct, global trade mindset 'talking points' issue/agenda some
seem to want to make of it.
And the Greek translation of Leon's English translation of the Chinese
translation of the English original intent didn't survive the text only post
either ... oh well, the day is older and the funny bone has been pushed back
beneath the surface where it (apparently) belongs.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
Reminds me of a time 30 years or so ago when I was unpacking a load of parts
at a friend's bicycle shop. Some low-end side pull brake calipers were in
the order for the service of department store bikes (something that the shop
eventually refused to do). The boxes were marked "ront" and "frear." My
friend the shop owner and I still chuckle over that... ;~)
John
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Toller" wrote in message
>>> Could you do better in Chinese?
>>
>> If I was selling products there I'd show a bit of respect and hire
>> someone
>> who could.
>>
> Did you buy the product? Would you have paid more for better English?
> Then why should they bother?
To increase sales. I am sure that there are many people that have less
common sense than many on this news group that would pay extra for
instructions correctly written in English. A customer paying extra for
another brand product would mean a loss for this company and an extra sale
for the competition. Correctly written instructions are a very small price
to pay considering the potential increase in sales.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Toller" wrote in message
>> Could you do better in Chinese?
>
> If I was selling products there I'd show a bit of respect and hire someone
> who could.
>
Did you buy the product? Would you have paid more for better English?
Then why should they bother?
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
[instructions on a glue roller bottle written by someone for whom it is
painfully obvious that English is a foreign language]
I think http://engrish.com/ would like to have a copy of that.
CW <[email protected]> wrote:
> "darkon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> I think http://engrish.com/ would like to have a copy of that.
>
> I doubt it. They deal with Japanese.
See "Engrish from other Countries" under Engrish categories.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:Ivadne6ENdXq9PbeRVn-
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> http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
>
>
C'mon Swing. Do you really need directions for a glue bottle?
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:TPudnWdMbLRBofLeRVn-
[email protected]:
> "Henry St.Pierre" wrote in message
>
>> C'mon Swing. Do you really need directions for a glue bottle?
>
> Only for a laugh.
>
Whew, had me worried for a moment.
I doubt it. They deal with Japanese.
"darkon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> I think http://engrish.com/ would like to have a copy of that.
"Leon" wrote in message
> I am the owner of a tool. Importance is placed during the time of
cleaning
> with care. Glue liquids will harden and require effort for removal on the
> wheel. When need for tool has expired clean completely with cleaning
> materials.
> Was that any help? LOL
??µa? ? ?d???t?t?? e??? e??a?e???. ? s?µas?a d??eta? ?at? t? d????e?a t??
?????? t?? ?a?a??sµ?? µe t?? p??s???. ?????ste ta ???? ?a s????a??e? ?a? ?a
apa?t?se? t?? p??sp??e?a ??a t?? afa??es? st? ??da. ?ta? ? a????? ??a t?
e??a?e?? ???e? ?a?a??? e?te??? µe ta ?a?a?????ta? ?????.
(IOW, it's all Greek to me) ... ;)
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In article <[email protected]>,
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > As opposed to "not so really foreign languages"? Hee-heee! I refuse
> > to use emoticons. Tom
> >
> That is correct. All the European languages are pretty much the same; they
> are "not so really foreign". Spanish and German may share little vocabulary
> and there are big differences in grammar; but the basic concepts are the
> same.
You never fail to disappoint me, Toller.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
I am the owner of a tool. Importance is placed during the time of cleaning
with care. Glue liquids will harden and require effort for removal on the
wheel. When need for tool has expired clean completely with cleaning
materials.
Was that any help? LOL
Is the bottle or the instruction sheet made in Taiwan? No, no, no, I get
it. The bottle is made in taiwan, but the instructions are contracted out
to someone who understands english even less.....
jc
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
>
>
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> Last update: 10/22/05
>
>
There is an alarming number of people that seem to think that we don't have
to produce anything, we can just buy what we need.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message > As an agricultural
supplier to the world, with our base strength inside
> the U.S. being based on those who ask "Do you want fries with that?" we
> won't have the money to spread democacy any more.
>
Could you do better in Chinese?
I once spent 5 minutes trying to find out, in Japanese, when a notecard
(inviting me out to dinner the following evening) had arrived. He seemed
confused as to why I wanted to send it. Then I realized that I was saying
go (iki) rather than come (ki).
Really foreign languages are difficult.
"tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> As opposed to "not so really foreign languages"? Hee-heee! I refuse
> to use emoticons. Tom
>
That is correct. All the European languages are pretty much the same; they
are "not so really foreign". Spanish and German may share little vocabulary
and there are big differences in grammar; but the basic concepts are the
same.
Asian languages are completely different. If you have never learned one you
can't appreciate just how different.
They will sell exactly the same number of glue bottles whether the
instructions are gibberish or not; why pay a translator when they can get it
done by an incompetent for free? That is one reason they sell so many!
Incidentally, "Chinese" normally means Mandarin. There are dozens of
dialects, some of which are as different as German is to Spanish; but they
are usually referred to as Cantonese or Taiwanese, not as Chinese.
On 4 Nov 2005 07:37:57 -0800, "rickluce" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The message is perfectly clear...it says when gluing your children at a
>distance stay clear of the glue bottle.
>Swingman wrote:
but I'm not sure if that includes children in the shade or not...
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Swingman said:
>
>"Greg G." wrote in message
>> Swingman said:
>>
>> >http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
>>
>> LMAO - Funny, I believe I have that same glue bottle bought some years
>> ago. I've since found that a bondo spreader works better for me.
>> In use, the rubber sleeve moves around on the plastic roller and jams,
>> and the pins slip out of the jaws at the least opportune times.
>
>Actually, they must have improved the device. I needed something today to
>laminate 2 x 12's into 3 x 12's and didn't want to use a glue brush, so I
>picked that up mainly for the rollers (can't find the proverbial "printing
>supply house" locally .... they must have all moved to Taiwan, you reckon?).
Just wait... ;-)
Mine worked too... for a while.
>It did the job nicely and in a fraction of the time.
The rollers do work pretty well.
Ever considered a laminate J-roller?
At least they have high quality bearings and roller.
And a dandy handle... (Yea, right - $22 for a glue spreader...)
>I did get a kick out of the instructions, though ... thought they would be
>worth at least a chuckle, but I obviously didn't take into account the
>politically correct, global trade mindset 'talking points' issue/agenda some
>seem to want to make of it.
I know - I'm as guilty as anyone on that count. It's a hard thing to
watch happen and not get just a _little_ hot over it.
Although I'm a little slow to KillFile _anyone_, I'm sure I've ended
up in quite a few recently.
>And the Greek translation of Leon's English translation of the Chinese
>translation of the English original intent didn't survive the text only post
>either ... oh well, the day is older and the funny bone has been pushed back
>beneath the surface where it (apparently) belongs.
LOL
Extended ASCII is funny that way.
I still use a pure text reader myself.
(Between you and me, however, I think he was typing garbage.)
Greg G.
Swingman said:
>
>"Greg G." wrote in message
>> Swingman said:
>I did get a kick out of the instructions, though ... thought they would be
>worth at least a chuckle, but I obviously didn't take into account the
Shoot, I forgot the main reason I replied to this...
(Aside from your rugged good looks and scary-sharp wit...)
If you think that is bad, try deciphering the alignment instructions
for a piece of complex Japanese electronics test gear from - oh, say,
the early 1970s. Now THAT's Greek!
Well actually, it would be Jinglish, but that's beside the point...
There is definitely a chasm between the Celtic and Asian mindsets.
Greg G.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > http://e-woodshop.net/images/Saywhat.jpg
>
>
> I am the owner of a tool. Importance is placed during the time of
cleaning
> with care. Glue liquids will harden and require effort for removal on the
> wheel. When need for tool has expired clean completely with cleaning
> materials.
>
>
> Was that any help? LOL
>
>
While the translation is poor in this example and in the original poster's
image, they are both completly understandable.
Go to a place that sells veneer suplies. Good glue rollers.
"Greg G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> At least they have high quality bearings and roller.
> And a dandy handle... (Yea, right - $22 for a glue spreader...)
>
>