New hobby. (woodworking related on many levels: building a bar.)

On Oct 20, 11:52=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Project scope:
> 8 Apartments, to be fully renovated.
> Bar and restaurant on the Front Street side. Retail space and Tea-room
> on the Christina Street side.
> This building is a city block long and spans 2 addresses on two
> different streets, but are connected legally as one property. (Really
> nice when you start counting fire escapes etc.)
> My part is to build a bar with celtic carvings and architectural
> features.
> Signage outside with corbels and fluted columns with capitals and
> corniches.
> I am working from a bunch of photos from Ireland.
>
> What it is now. These piccies were taken by Google Maps.http://tinyurl.co=
m/33ysuf9That is where the bar/restaurant will be.
>
> This is the Christina Street entrance which will have 2 retail spaces.htt=
p://tinyurl.com/38uhyty
>
> This is how far we got in 2 days..LOLhttp://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o=
290/Robatoy/150F.jpg
>
> The entire area is going through a resurrection with major money being
> spent on cultural stuff.
>
> Up until last year, the difference between Downtown Sarnia and a bowl of
> yoghurt was that the yoghurt has an active, living culture.
>
> More to come.

Last link should work better this way:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg

On 10/21/2010 3:29 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>> I only bite on wrong evaluations of The Holy Land (Canada).
>>
> <snip>
>> .
>> so does a crayon. g,d&r
>>
>
> Do they have good crayons in Canada? <G>

From someone who had to learn to read before he figured out how NOT to
paint the sky green and the grass pink ... what's a "good" crayon to you?

I would say that the only good crayon is the one that has the color
written on it. :)

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Last update: 4/15/2010
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On Oct 22, 12:31=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> =A0"Robatoy" wrote:
> > And Leamington, an hour and a bit south from here, calls itself the
>
> tomato capital of the WORLD, no less. Heinz has had a huge factory
> there since 1906. We also have world-class wineries in Niagara region
> and Pelee Island. Latitude: 41=B045' 18.424
> --------------------------------------
> The individual catsup package was developed at Leamington.
>
> The chief engineer who developed it took his bonus money and bought a
> 44 ft sailboat which he kept at the Leamington harbor for a couple of
> years before retiring and heading out to warmer climes for year around
> sailing.
>
> Pelee island in L Erie is quite unique.
>
> Has an extended growing season and is isolated enough to be used for
> growing seeds, primarily corn.
>
> It's isolation eliminates cross pollination problems when producing
> seed corn.
>
> Lew

Soon the Monsanto Police will be patrolling the waters around Pelee in
their speed boats.

On Oct 22, 2:43=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 21, 5:28=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Robatoy" wrote:
>
> >> Funny how reality somehow stops at your border, huh?
> >> I have seen those weather maps on TV. 70=B0 in Detroit, 20=B0 in Winds=
or,
> >> with only a river separating them.
> >> Somewhere, I still have a picture of a Tennessee couple that crossed
> >> the border here in Sarnia, with skis on the roof of their station
> >> wagon .......in JULY!
>
> >> Rome, Italy, 41, 54 N
> >> Northern California 41=B0 46'N
> >> Sarnia Latitude: 42=B0 58', North.
>
> >> We can actually grow vegetables here!
> >> ----------------------------------------
> >> One of the major asparagus growing spots in North America is around
> >> Peterborough, ON, which is what, maybe 200 miles east of Sarnia?
>
> >> Lew
> >> .
>
> >And Leamington, an hour and a bit south from here, calls itself the
> >tomato capital of the WORLD, no less. Heinz has had a huge factory
> >there since 1906. We also have world-class wineries in Niagara region
> >and Pelee Island. Latitude: 41=B045' 18.424
>
> THIS Niagara region? =A0http://fwd4.me/iqH=A0Grape popsicles?
>
Ice wine. Super sweet, stupid money, but a commercial success.

On Oct 21, 9:26=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 05:31:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 20, 11:24=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 20, 10:52 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >Last link should work better this way:
> >> >> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> >> >> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. Eek!
>
> >> >It kills me to look at it. =A0Guaranteed there's multi-colored brick
> >> >under the paint, and check out the pilasters running up the face of
> >> >the building and on either side of each window. =A0They've got this c=
ool
> >> >serpentine thing going on. =A0The brickwork on that building is flipp=
ing
> >> >art, and somebody _wallpapered_ over it! =A0I'd use Peel Away Smart
> >> >Strip and take it down to the original and then not have to worry
> >> >about painting it again. =A0http://www.peelaway.com/smart-strip.htm
>
> >> >Sorry, Roba - I realize you inherited it painted, but it strikes me
> >> >the same way that you'd feel if someone painted over the celtic
> >> >carvings you're planning to do on the bar. =A0It's architectural
> >> >sacrilege.
>
> >> Perhaps, but some of the old ca1870 buildings around here are so
> >> unstable that the mortar and bricks themselves are eroding. Paint may
> >> be the only thing holding that building _up_!
>
> >> --
> >> Know how to listen, and you will
> >> profit even from those who talk badly.
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Plutarch
>
> >Are you close to salt water and earth quakes?
>
> Within 50 miles of the ocean, with the coastal range in between. And
> we're in a quake area, but none has hit in eons. =A0
>
> The work I was doing on one such building was -inside-, though. =A0They
> had me paint the disintegrating bricks and mortar with a thick,
> clearish emulsion. =A0It reminded me of the lovely and popular
> polyurinestain products.
>
> --
> Know how to listen, and you will
> profit even from those who talk badly.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Plutarch

BTDT... We formed a consortium and renovated 6 store-fronts downtown
Toronto. Same idea. Gutted most of them. Lead water lines, asbestos
insulation FUN! Abatemen fees were staggering. (We did see that coming
though, so no surprises)
This place, however, won't even take a tapcon drill bit easily in the
perfectly pointed mortar. No worries there.
The wood around the windows is another story, but after doing a LOT of
those in Rochester NY, I feel no intimidation by that problem.
The brick inside needs to be cleaned and re-pointed in some areas.
I love this kinda shit...

On Oct 20, 7:12=A0pm, "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Oct 20, 1:12 pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
>
> dot net> wrote:
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > > Last link should work better this way:
> > >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> > Are you putting the ugly yellow on?
>
> > Or are you taking it off?
>
> Smartypans!
>
> That's NICE yellow. You'll see the whole statement when the signs and
> all that are in place.
> =A0Lots of oranges and greens to come.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-- ----------------------------
>
> Orange? And you said an "Irish" pub?

Green, white and orange... Irish flag since 1919.

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:12:01 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:

>
>
>"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Last link should work better this way:
>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
>Are you putting the ugly yellow on?
>
>Or are you taking it off?

<chortle>

I'm wondering how any sign he makes for that can compete with the new
paint (blowme) job.

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

On Oct 20, 10:52=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Last link should work better this way:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. =A0Eek!

It kills me to look at it. Guaranteed there's multi-colored brick
under the paint, and check out the pilasters running up the face of
the building and on either side of each window. They've got this cool
serpentine thing going on. The brickwork on that building is flipping
art, and somebody _wallpapered_ over it! I'd use Peel Away Smart
Strip and take it down to the original and then not have to worry
about painting it again. http://www.peelaway.com/smart-strip.htm

Sorry, Roba - I realize you inherited it painted, but it strikes me
the same way that you'd feel if someone painted over the celtic
carvings you're planning to do on the bar. It's architectural
sacrilege.

R

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Last link should work better this way:
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg

Are you putting the ugly yellow on?

Or are you taking it off?

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
> I only bite on wrong evaluations of The Holy Land (Canada).
>
<snip>
>.
> so does a crayon. g,d&r
>

Do they have good crayons in Canada? <G>

"Robatoy" wrote:
Funny how reality somehow stops at your border, huh?
I have seen those weather maps on TV. 70° in Detroit, 20° in Windsor,
with only a river separating them.
Somewhere, I still have a picture of a Tennessee couple that crossed
the border here in Sarnia, with skis on the roof of their station
wagon .......in JULY!

Rome, Italy, 41, 54 N
Northern California 41° 46'N
Sarnia Latitude: 42° 58', North.

We can actually grow vegetables here!
----------------------------------------
One of the major asparagus growing spots in North America is around
Peterborough, ON, which is what, maybe 200 miles east of Sarnia?

Lew
.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> From someone who had to learn to read before he figured out how NOT to
> paint the sky green and the grass pink ... what's a "good" crayon to you?
>
> I would say that the only good crayon is the one that has the color
> written on it. :)
>
According to my artist friends and long ago memories, The more colors the
better. But as you pointed out, if you can not tell what color is which,
that wouldn't help you.

I guess this means that you were not meant to be a painter-artist type.

For the record, I was not a good color-er in school. Yep, in first grade we
were graded on our crayon skills. I doubt if that is a part of the
curriculum any more.

"Robatoy" wrote:
> And Leamington, an hour and a bit south from here, calls itself the
tomato capital of the WORLD, no less. Heinz has had a huge factory
there since 1906. We also have world-class wineries in Niagara region
and Pelee Island. Latitude: 41°45' 18.424
--------------------------------------
The individual catsup package was developed at Leamington.

The chief engineer who developed it took his bonus money and bought a
44 ft sailboat which he kept at the Leamington harbor for a couple of
years before retiring and heading out to warmer climes for year around
sailing.

Pelee island in L Erie is quite unique.

Has an extended growing season and is isolated enough to be used for
growing seeds, primarily corn.

It's isolation eliminates cross pollination problems when producing
seed corn.

Lew

On Oct 20, 12:00=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/20/10 10:52 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150F.jpg
>
> oops... not there.
>

Don't you OOPS me, mister!
.
.
.
Yeah, well, so I typed it in from memory....big mistake...LOL

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Oct 20, 10:52 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Last link should work better this way:
>> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>>
>> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks.  Eek!
>
>It kills me to look at it. Guaranteed there's multi-colored brick
>under the paint, and check out the pilasters running up the face of
>the building and on either side of each window. They've got this cool
>serpentine thing going on. The brickwork on that building is flipping
>art, and somebody _wallpapered_ over it! I'd use Peel Away Smart
>Strip and take it down to the original and then not have to worry
>about painting it again. http://www.peelaway.com/smart-strip.htm
>
>Sorry, Roba - I realize you inherited it painted, but it strikes me
>the same way that you'd feel if someone painted over the celtic
>carvings you're planning to do on the bar. It's architectural
>sacrilege.

Perhaps, but some of the old ca1870 buildings around here are so
unstable that the mortar and bricks themselves are eroding. Paint may
be the only thing holding that building _up_!

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

On Oct 21, 1:50=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/21/10 12:46 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > On Oct 21, 10:57 am, Larry Jaques<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Soooo, where's the pic of the sign, eh, hoser?
>
> > You mind if I design, cut, have it painted and hung first? LOL
>
> What, you don't have a SketchUp rendering?
>
> By the way, SketchUp is the best CAD program ever.
>
I only bite on wrong evaluations of The Holy Land (Canada).


SketchUp works.
.
.
.
.
so does a crayon. g,d&r

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Last link should work better this way:
>http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg

If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. Eek!

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:0ZKdnfr3cISRO13RnZ2dnUVZ_q-
[email protected]:

> On 10/21/2010 3:29 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>
>>> I only bite on wrong evaluations of The Holy Land (Canada).
>>>
>> <snip>
>>> .
>>> so does a crayon. g,d&r
>>>
>>
>> Do they have good crayons in Canada? <G>
>
> From someone who had to learn to read before he figured out how NOT to
> paint the sky green and the grass pink ... what's a "good" crayon to
you?
>
> I would say that the only good crayon is the one that has the color
> written on it. :)
>

LOL! Being colorblind myself I can relate to that.

Steve

On Oct 21, 5:06=A0pm, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:0ZKdnfr3cISRO13RnZ2dnUVZ_q-
> [email protected]:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 10/21/2010 3:29 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
> >> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> >>> I only bite on wrong evaluations of The Holy Land (Canada).
>
> >> <snip>
> >>> .
> >>> so does a crayon. g,d&r
>
> >> Do they have good crayons in Canada? <G>
>
> > =A0From someone who had to learn to read before he figured out how NOT =
to
> > paint the sky green and the grass pink ... what's a "good" crayon to
> you?
>
> > I would say that the only good crayon is the one that has the color
> > written on it. :)
>
> LOL! Being colorblind myself I can relate to that.
>
> Steve

I had a radio, as a kid, that had a green light and a red light on the
front panel. The dial lights no longer worked but at night, the red
and green bulbs lit my ceiling jointly. When I closed one eye, the
ceiling was red, when I closed the other, the ceiling was green. That
was a hint of things to come. Reddish/greenish browns are still my
nemesis, all other colours seem to be okay.

On Oct 21, 8:42=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:17:09 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 20, 10:52=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >Last link should work better this way:
> >> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> >> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. =A0Eek!
>
> >You wouldn't do well up here anyway. ;-}
>
> Surrounded by leftists under 400' of -50F snow? =A0You're correct!
>
Funny how reality somehow stops at your border, huh?
I have seen those weather maps on TV. 70=B0 in Detroit, 20=B0 in Windsor,
with only a river separating them.
Somewhere, I still have a picture of a Tennessee couple that crossed
the border here in Sarnia, with skis on the roof of their station
wagon .......in JULY!

Rome, Italy, 41, 54 N
Northern California 41=B0 46'N
Sarnia Latitude: 42=B0 58', North.

We can actually grow vegetables here!

On Oct 21, 10:57=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Soooo, where's the pic of the sign, eh, hoser?
>

You mind if I design, cut, have it painted and hung first? LOL

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:17:09 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Oct 20, 10:52 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >Last link should work better this way:
>> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>>
>> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks.  Eek!
>>
>
>You wouldn't do well up here anyway. ;-}

Surrounded by leftists under 400' of -50F snow? You're correct!

--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch

On Oct 20, 11:24=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Oct 20, 10:52 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >Last link should work better this way:
> >> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> >> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. Eek!
>
> >It kills me to look at it. =A0Guaranteed there's multi-colored brick
> >under the paint, and check out the pilasters running up the face of
> >the building and on either side of each window. =A0They've got this cool
> >serpentine thing going on. =A0The brickwork on that building is flipping
> >art, and somebody _wallpapered_ over it! =A0I'd use Peel Away Smart
> >Strip and take it down to the original and then not have to worry
> >about painting it again. =A0http://www.peelaway.com/smart-strip.htm
>
> >Sorry, Roba - I realize you inherited it painted, but it strikes me
> >the same way that you'd feel if someone painted over the celtic
> >carvings you're planning to do on the bar. =A0It's architectural
> >sacrilege.
>
> Perhaps, but some of the old ca1870 buildings around here are so
> unstable that the mortar and bricks themselves are eroding. Paint may
> be the only thing holding that building _up_!
>
> --
> Know how to listen, and you will
> profit even from those who talk badly.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- Plutarch

Are you close to salt water and earth quakes?

On Oct 21, 5:28=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" wrote:
>
> Funny how reality somehow stops at your border, huh?
> I have seen those weather maps on TV. 70=B0 in Detroit, 20=B0 in Windsor,
> with only a river separating them.
> Somewhere, I still have a picture of a Tennessee couple that crossed
> the border here in Sarnia, with skis on the roof of their station
> wagon .......in JULY!
>
> Rome, Italy, 41, 54 N
> Northern California 41=B0 46'N
> Sarnia Latitude: 42=B0 58', North.
>
> We can actually grow vegetables here!
> ----------------------------------------
> One of the major asparagus growing spots in North America is around
> Peterborough, ON, which is what, maybe 200 miles east of Sarnia?
>
> Lew
> .

And Leamington, an hour and a bit south from here, calls itself the
tomato capital of the WORLD, no less. Heinz has had a huge factory
there since 1906. We also have world-class wineries in Niagara region
and Pelee Island. Latitude: 41=B045' 18.424

On Oct 20, 1:12=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
>
> > Last link should work better this way:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> Are you putting the ugly yellow on? =A0
>
> Or are you taking it off?

Smartypans!

That's NICE yellow. You'll see the whole statement when the signs and
all that are in place.
Lots of oranges and greens to come.

On Oct 20, 10:52=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Last link should work better this way:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. =A0Eek!
>

You wouldn't do well up here anyway. ;-}

On Oct 20, 11:58=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Last link should work better this way: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums=
/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg

I know the brick was already painted, but it's still a shame. I bet
there's a lot of hidden detail under the paint.

Do you get free "drinking rights" for life?

R

On 10/20/10 10:52 AM, Robatoy wrote:
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150F.jpg
>

oops... not there.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 10/20/10 1:05 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 20, 12:00 pm, -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 10/20/10 10:52 AM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150F.jpg
>>
>> oops... not there.
>>
>
> Don't you OOPS me, mister!
> .
> .
> .
> Yeah, well, so I typed it in from memory....big mistake...LOL
>

I saw your correction, as soon as I hit send. :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 10/21/10 12:46 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 21, 10:57 am, Larry Jaques<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Soooo, where's the pic of the sign, eh, hoser?
>>
>
> You mind if I design, cut, have it painted and hung first? LOL
>

What, you don't have a SketchUp rendering?

By the way, SketchUp is the best CAD program ever.


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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Oct 20, 1:12 pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
>
> > Last link should work better this way:
> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>
> Are you putting the ugly yellow on?
>
> Or are you taking it off?

Smartypans!

That's NICE yellow. You'll see the whole statement when the signs and
all that are in place.
Lots of oranges and greens to come.

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Orange? And you said an "Irish" pub?

On 10/21/10 5:35 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> and Pelee Island.

Memories abound.


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On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Oct 21, 5:28 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" wrote:
>>
>> Funny how reality somehow stops at your border, huh?
>> I have seen those weather maps on TV. 70° in Detroit, 20° in Windsor,
>> with only a river separating them.
>> Somewhere, I still have a picture of a Tennessee couple that crossed
>> the border here in Sarnia, with skis on the roof of their station
>> wagon .......in JULY!
>>
>> Rome, Italy, 41, 54 N
>> Northern California 41° 46'N
>> Sarnia Latitude: 42° 58', North.
>>
>> We can actually grow vegetables here!
>> ----------------------------------------
>> One of the major asparagus growing spots in North America is around
>> Peterborough, ON, which is what, maybe 200 miles east of Sarnia?
>>
>> Lew
>> .
>
>And Leamington, an hour and a bit south from here, calls itself the
>tomato capital of the WORLD, no less. Heinz has had a huge factory
>there since 1906. We also have world-class wineries in Niagara region
>and Pelee Island. Latitude: 41°45' 18.424

THIS Niagara region? http://fwd4.me/iqH Grape popsicles?

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 05:31:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Oct 20, 11:24 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On Oct 20, 10:52 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >Last link should work better this way:
>> >> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>>
>> >> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. Eek!
>>
>> >It kills me to look at it.  Guaranteed there's multi-colored brick
>> >under the paint, and check out the pilasters running up the face of
>> >the building and on either side of each window.  They've got this cool
>> >serpentine thing going on.  The brickwork on that building is flipping
>> >art, and somebody _wallpapered_ over it!  I'd use Peel Away Smart
>> >Strip and take it down to the original and then not have to worry
>> >about painting it again.  http://www.peelaway.com/smart-strip.htm
>>
>> >Sorry, Roba - I realize you inherited it painted, but it strikes me
>> >the same way that you'd feel if someone painted over the celtic
>> >carvings you're planning to do on the bar.  It's architectural
>> >sacrilege.
>>
>> Perhaps, but some of the old ca1870 buildings around here are so
>> unstable that the mortar and bricks themselves are eroding. Paint may
>> be the only thing holding that building _up_!
>>
>> --
>> Know how to listen, and you will
>> profit even from those who talk badly.
>>                           -- Plutarch
>
>Are you close to salt water and earth quakes?

Within 50 miles of the ocean, with the coastal range in between. And
we're in a quake area, but none has hit in eons.

The work I was doing on one such building was -inside-, though. They
had me paint the disintegrating bricks and mortar with a thick,
clearish emulsion. It reminded me of the lovely and popular
polyurinestain products.

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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:52:43 -0400, Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Project scope:
>8 Apartments, to be fully renovated.
>Bar and restaurant on the Front Street side. Retail space and Tea-room
>on the Christina Street side.
>This building is a city block long and spans 2 addresses on two
>different streets, but are connected legally as one property. (Really
>nice when you start counting fire escapes etc.)
>My part is to build a bar with celtic carvings and architectural
>features.
>Signage outside with corbels and fluted columns with capitals and
>corniches.
>I am working from a bunch of photos from Ireland.
>
>What it is now. These piccies were taken by Google Maps.
>http://tinyurl.com/33ysuf9 That is where the bar/restaurant will be.
>
>This is the Christina Street entrance which will have 2 retail spaces.
>http://tinyurl.com/38uhyty
>
>This is how far we got in 2 days..LOL
>http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150F.jpg

Perhaps you forgot to upload it? Page not found.


>The entire area is going through a resurrection with major money being
>spent on cultural stuff.
>
>Up until last year, the difference between Downtown Sarnia and a bowl of
>yoghurt was that the yoghurt has an active, living culture.

A hotbed of inactivity, wot?

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Oct 21, 9:26 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 05:31:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On Oct 20, 11:24 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
>>
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 20, 10:52 pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:58:51 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>
>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >Last link should work better this way:
>> >> >> >http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/150front.jpg
>>
>> >> >> If that's culture, I'll pass, thanks. Eek!
>>
>> >> >It kills me to look at it.  Guaranteed there's multi-colored brick
>> >> >under the paint, and check out the pilasters running up the face of
>> >> >the building and on either side of each window.  They've got this cool
>> >> >serpentine thing going on.  The brickwork on that building is flipping
>> >> >art, and somebody _wallpapered_ over it!  I'd use Peel Away Smart
>> >> >Strip and take it down to the original and then not have to worry
>> >> >about painting it again.  http://www.peelaway.com/smart-strip.htm
>>
>> >> >Sorry, Roba - I realize you inherited it painted, but it strikes me
>> >> >the same way that you'd feel if someone painted over the celtic
>> >> >carvings you're planning to do on the bar.  It's architectural
>> >> >sacrilege.
>>
>> >> Perhaps, but some of the old ca1870 buildings around here are so
>> >> unstable that the mortar and bricks themselves are eroding. Paint may
>> >> be the only thing holding that building _up_!
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Know how to listen, and you will
>> >> profit even from those who talk badly.
>> >>                           -- Plutarch
>>
>> >Are you close to salt water and earth quakes?
>>
>> Within 50 miles of the ocean, with the coastal range in between. And
>> we're in a quake area, but none has hit in eons.  
>>
>> The work I was doing on one such building was -inside-, though.  They
>> had me paint the disintegrating bricks and mortar with a thick,
>> clearish emulsion.  It reminded me of the lovely and popular
>> polyurinestain products.
>>
>> --
>> Know how to listen, and you will
>> profit even from those who talk badly.
>>                           -- Plutarch
>
>BTDT... We formed a consortium and renovated 6 store-fronts downtown
>Toronto. Same idea. Gutted most of them. Lead water lines, asbestos
>insulation FUN! Abatemen fees were staggering. (We did see that coming
>though, so no surprises)

Isn't that ridiculous? Given that only 10% of all asbestos ever
produced was the nasty sort and that most people wear masks around
anything dusty, the class action lawsuits (here, how about there?) and
gov't regulation on these things just sicken me.


>This place, however, won't even take a tapcon drill bit easily in the
>perfectly pointed mortar. No worries there.
>The wood around the windows is another story, but after doing a LOT of
>those in Rochester NY, I feel no intimidation by that problem.
>The brick inside needs to be cleaned and re-pointed in some areas.
>I love this kinda shit...

I wouldn't mind repointing decent brick 'n mortar, but this was like
styrofoam in places. Coulda been limeless mortar back then. And
someone may have cooked their own bricks, but the building is still
standing. I wouldn't live there. Uh, uh!

Soooo, where's the pic of the sign, eh, hoser?

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