Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with a 1-7/8"
blade and black ABS handle:
http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to become lost
like every other knife I've ever owned. The blade lock mechanism is completely
worn out and no longer works, and I've had way too many close calls with that
thing giving way and threatening to slice up my fingers. The cross-hatching on
the handle is also worn completely smooth, and while I liked that when it was
new, I'm not sure I'd go for that again.
What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like that
style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing multi-blade or fancy
for me. I could stand to go a little larger, but not by much; probably under
4" total closed length. I can't stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things about them,
but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's ability to keep an edge.
I'd like to take the quality of the steel into consideration on this next
purchase. Any thoughts or suggestions there?
--
If it ain't perfect, improve it...
But don't break it while you're fixin' it!
To reply, eat the taco.
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"willshak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> HeyBub wrote the following:
>> Steve Turner wrote:
> From their site:
> Limited Lifetime Warranty
> Kershaw products are guaranteed for the lifetime of the original owner to
> be free of defects when received from the factory. Any product we find to
> be defective in its original material, construction, or workmanship will
> be repaired or replaced with the same item or one of equal value at no
> charge. (Of course, normal wear, abuse such as prying with the knife, or
> neglect are excluded from this non-transferable warranty.) For warranty
> service, please return product via UPS or insured mail. Include your name,
> address, telephone number, and a short explanation of the warranty service
> requested to the address below. Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.
>
> Kai USA ltd., Kershaw Knives
> WARRANTY DEPARTMENT
> 18600 SW Teton Avenue
> Tualatin, OR 97062
The stickler here may be the statement that the knife has a lifetime
warranty when "received" from the factory. I think that reads if you buy
direct from Kershaw, not from a retailer.
On Oct 3, 2:28=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>
> > Gerber, eh? =A0Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI jus=
t
> > up the road from me. =A0The REI pages show quite a few that look pretty
> > good to me, and a lot cheaper than the Boker I was looking at. =A0:-) =
=A0I'm
> > kinda partial to this one:
>
> >http://www.rei.com/product/752017
>
> I've carried a pocket knife since highschool over 40 years ago. =A0The on=
e
> in my left pocket is a MeyerCo "Stingray" assisted opening drop point
> knife. =A0Clipped to my left pocket is a Bessey folding utility knife.
> For the last two years most often it's the Bessey that gets used.
>
> The Bessey knife came be seen at:
>
> http://www.woodshopdemos.com/nprod-22.htm
>
> Contrary to the info at the site above the blade does open easily with
> one hand and it is not necessary to press the blade lock release lever.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
That very same knife is available under the Husky (Home Despot)
brand.... at least the mechanics of it.
I'm thinking more of it as a promo item than an example of Bessey's
quality.
On Oct 3, 8:55=A0pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
> > I went to Olfa LLB black blades in their respective handles some time
> > ago. I'm very happy with those. They don't have the strength of a good
> > lath knife, but they sure are sharp.
>
> I use the Olfa black snap off blades too. I believe they're sharper and t=
he
> edges on them last longer too.
Princess Auto often has some really good prices on black Olfa
blades.... really good pricing.
On Oct 3, 9:05=A0pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > Princess Auto often has some really good prices on black Olfa
> > blades.... really good pricing.
>
> In all honesty, I've never been to a Princess Auto. No particular reason
> really, just that there isn't one anywhere around my neck of the woods.
You're not missing much. The place just stinks of cheap Chinese rubber.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 10/2/2010 6:57 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Steve Turner"wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
>>> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
>>> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
>>> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
>>> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
>> -------------------------
>> I've always been partial to Buck.
>>
>> Still have a marlin spike sailor's knife I bought over 30 years ago.
>>
>> Take a look nat the "Stockman 301 Single Blade" for a simple piece of
>> equipment.
>>
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26lv2dm
>>
>>
>> Lew
>
> I've had a couple of Buck knives through the years and I liked them very
> much. However, I just looked through that entire list and didn't find
> anything that really struck me as "me", and I found a whole LOT of stuff
> that made me say "What the HELL?" I kind felt like I was shopping for a
> pair of tennis shoes. Thanks anyway though. :-)
FWIW I have had several Buck knives. I liked them when new but all of them
seemed to loosen up and become sloppy. The Kershaw has remained tight.
"Steve Turner"wrote:
> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
-------------------------
I've always been partial to Buck.
Still have a marlin spike sailor's knife I bought over 30 years ago.
Take a look nat the "Stockman 301 Single Blade" for a simple piece of
equipment.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/26lv2dm
Lew
Steve Turner wrote:
>
> Gerber, eh? Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI just
> up the road from me. The REI pages show quite a few that look pretty
> good to me, and a lot cheaper than the Boker I was looking at. :-) I'm
> kinda partial to this one:
>
> http://www.rei.com/product/752017
>
I've carried a pocket knife since highschool over 40 years ago. The one
in my left pocket is a MeyerCo "Stingray" assisted opening drop point
knife. Clipped to my left pocket is a Bessey folding utility knife.
For the last two years most often it's the Bessey that gets used.
The Bessey knife came be seen at:
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/nprod-22.htm
Contrary to the info at the site above the blade does open easily with
one hand and it is not necessary to press the blade lock release lever.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 3, 2:28 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Steve Turner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Gerber, eh? Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI just
>>>up the road from me. The REI pages show quite a few that look pretty
>>>good to me, and a lot cheaper than the Boker I was looking at. :-) I'm
>>>kinda partial to this one:
>>
>>>http://www.rei.com/product/752017
>>
>>I've carried a pocket knife since highschool over 40 years ago. The one
>>in my left pocket is a MeyerCo "Stingray" assisted opening drop point
>>knife. Clipped to my left pocket is a Bessey folding utility knife.
>>For the last two years most often it's the Bessey that gets used.
>>
>>The Bessey knife came be seen at:
>>
>>http://www.woodshopdemos.com/nprod-22.htm
>>
>>Contrary to the info at the site above the blade does open easily with
>>one hand and it is not necessary to press the blade lock release lever.
>>
>>--
>>Jack Novak
>>Buffalo, NY - USA
>>[email protected]
>
>
> That very same knife is available under the Husky (Home Despot)
> brand.... at least the mechanics of it.
> I'm thinking more of it as a promo item than an example of Bessey's
> quality.
I have a couple of Husky knives. They do not have a rubberized handle,
the thumb rest on the back of the blade or a compartment for blade
storage. Those features I find quite useful.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 3, 3:15 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
>>I have a couple of Husky knives. They do not have a rubberized handle,
>>the thumb rest on the back of the blade or a compartment for blade
>>storage. Those features I find quite useful.
>>
>>--
>>Jack Novak
>>Buffalo, NY - USA
>>[email protected]
>
>
> I went to Olfa LLB black blades in their respective handles some time
> ago. I'm very happy with those. They don't have the strength of a good
> lath knife, but they sure are sharp.
> Are the Husky parts interchangeable with the Bessey, you think?
Comparing the Husky and the Bessey side by side I'd say the steel
mechanism is probably made by the same company. The Bessey's torx head
screws are in a slightly different position and the Bessey has
additional machining. Other than the blade, I don't think the parts
would be interchangeable.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
On 2010-10-03 10:48:26 -0400, willshak <[email protected]> said:
> Kai USA ltd., Kershaw Knives
> WARRANTY DEPARTMENT
> 18600 SW Teton Avenue
> Tualatin, OR 97062
Gee, who else do we know in Tualatin?
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 10:53:59 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 10/2/10 9:27 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with a
>> 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>>
>> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>>
>> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to become
>> lost like every other knife I've ever owned.
>
>I don't know anything about knives, but if you're replacing one you've
>had for 20yrs, I'd suggest going as high end as you can.
Whatever for? I stick with the size/shape/config that works for me.
The Victorinox goes for $10-20 but has a knife, screwdriver, nail
file, really good tweezers, very nice scissors, and a toothpick. One
girlfriend asked for one for her birthday one year, and she still has
and uses it to this day. They're TITS, I tell ya.
>Seems to me,
>for guys like you, a pocket knife is the tool equivalent of the dog.
Ayup. No wet dog smells, no crap to clean up, no barking EVER, no
peeing on the floor, no shedding, no scratched flooring or doors, no
food or vet bills, and always ready when you need 'em. What's not to
like? Give me a knife over a dog ANY time.
--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch
On Oct 4, 9:50 pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Nice knives, but those dudes are just a WEE bit bigger than what I had in mind.
> Even the Boker I've been looking at, which clocks in with a close length of
> 4-1/4" is bigger than I really want to carry around in my cushy office job... :-)
OK, you have to know I am laughing my ass off at myself. Remind me to
wear my glasses when I look at small things on the monitor. The
little knife you posted as your current knife has a big brother, a
near copy of the venerated Buck 110 folder.
But... yours is less than 3" closed, and this one is more than 4"
closed and a helluva lot heavier. But in profile, and in appearance,
they look the same.
Hey.. I told you I had too much caffeine! A few too many cups of
coffee and I think I can read without my spectacles!
OK... one last shot though.
Check this guy out:
http://www.collectorknives.net/queen-knives.html
He has all kinds of good brand names, including CASE, Boker, Queen,
etc. Right now I am partial to Queen because I love that D2 steel.
Excellent stuff. It is stain resistant so it doesn't rust easily, but
has enough carbon to really hold an edge.
I live the bone handles on these knives, and Queen does a great job.
I have the Stockman, the Dan Burke Barlow, the medium Stockman, the
Gunstock, the Dan Burke half whittler, and the Country Cousin from
this line, all bought at Mike's shop. Great guy, too. I bought a
knife for a gift that wasn't 100%, and he had a new one in the mail
before I got the other one packed to send back.
The medium Stockman would do what you wanted, as would the Copperlock
or Canoe. All three of those are considered medium duty work knives.
Personally, I keep my work knives around and use them hard, but my
real love of pocket knives is the old patterns and materials. I take
pretty good care of them, even if they were designed for hard work.
I am understanding now that you want more of a gentleman's knife.
But still, you should buy that RAT1 as your knock around knife. ;^)
Never too many knives....
Hope you post what you decide.
Robert
On Oct 4, 9:08 am, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hey... SteveO...
Try to make sense of this post. I am on my second pot of coffee on a
marathon of cleaning up paperwork and outstanding estimates that have
to go out this week. Waaayy too much caffeine.
> I do like the Kershaw knife, but I've been a little disappointed in its ability
> to hold an edge, and I'm really just ready for something different, a bit
> bigger, and with the best quality steel I can find.
The Kershaw knife you have has a blade made from AUS6, which was a
good standard at the time. It is pretty much relegated to less
expensive knives these days, or knives that are hard to sharpen due to
their size or shapes.
Good news: AUS6 doesn't rust unless abused. Blades don't break
because the steel is only hardened to about RC 55 or a couple of
points less. Easy to sharpen.
Bad news: Needs frequent sharpening
I'm still pretty sweet on>
> that Boker knife, but I've been instructed not to buy such things for myself so
> close to Christmas. Perhaps it will show up in my stocking this year. :-)
I love a guilt free purchase like that.
> I did also read the Kershaw warranty info (which HeyBub also posted here) and I
> am curious about whether they would honor it, but I don't think I'll send off
> my knife to find out until after Christmas. I don't want to be without a knife
> while I'm waiting for them to decide.
Kershaw's customer service is legendary. Sure, they don't make
everyone happy, but their batting average seems to be really good.
Additionally, if you want, if his email is still active I can put you
in touch with the head executive in charge of customer service.
You can read all about their service here since they have re-enabled
the search function for non members:
http://www.bladeforums.com
I regularly participate there and have for some time. I am not a
Kershaw addict, but love their knives. (I am midnight flyer if you
search for my own small contributions)
I don't like to carry a knife in a sheath or belt holster as I my
duties take me from a jobsite to estimates on more refined homes.
Besides catching on things, I just don't like the holsters. And the
Buck 110s (and your Kershaw version of the Buck) were always too big
for me to carry in my pocket since they had to ride under my nail
bags. The bags ground the knife into my leg, and they ground off the
denim on my pants.
I was really surprised the first time I got a knife with a pocket clip
on it. They ride right down the seam of my jeans and I literally
can't feel the knife at all when I have it clipped. Thanks to the
Bladeforums crew, I found this extremely affordable knife which is my
favorite work knife:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/26njpgm
Go down to the plain edged, satin finished model. I absolutely love
this knife, and Tom at Chestnut has the best prices anywhere (great
guy, too!).
This is a few steps up on the steel, and has proven to be a real
winner for me as a slicer and sadly, sometimes as a beater. The G10
on the handle is not too aggressive, but it holds on to your hand
quite well and doesn't wear down like the FRN on your Kershaw.
It locks up like a tank, and is just as secure as it was when I
started carrying it a year+ ago. If you call, ask for Tom and tell
him you would like for him to take one out of the package to check for
fit and finish before he ships. He did it for me, and I am sure he
will do it for you.
AUS8 is pretty good steel, great for a work knife. Easy to sharpen
and maintain, and if you get too aggressive it still won't break or
chip. I couple of passes on my diamond rod and it is back up to duty
standards. It comes with a sharp edged spine, and I keep that sharp
(90 degrees) as well and use the spine as a makeshift scraper.
When I know it won't get too abused, and I am doing all woodwork, this
is by far and away my favorite work knife to pack around:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/d29tvp
The sandwiched steel is a kick. No, there are no recorded cases of
delamination! If you are an experienced sharpener, the D2 on the edge
is no problem at all to sharpen. And it will get *screaming* sharp
and stay that way.
Roger over at Knifeworks is great to work with, and I have bought
several Kershaws from him, including a couple of "super steel knives"
like S110V. (Not worth the dough!)
Both of those guys have the prices and service I like.
As a sidebar, there have been a lot of questions about the Kershaw
lines that have moved to China. You knife in particular was brought
into question a few months ago, and the consensus was that the Chinese
models are as good or better than the Japanese models made by Seki.
Like any other manufacturer, Kershaw has their clinkers, but the
consensus is that they will stand by their product, barring abuse.
Robert
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 10/2/2010 12:03 PM, Brad Bruce wrote:
>> -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote in
>
> I was surprised that the prices on those Kershaws that Leon and I were
> talking about aren't very high; around $20. At that price losing one
> wouldn't be that big of a deal, but I'm still pretty keen on getting
> something with better quality and I have to wonder if the current "made in
> China" versions aren't a drop down from what I already have. I wouldn't
> be adverse to spending closer to $50 if the quality was significantly
> better. That's where I was hoping somebody here might have some
> suggestions.
Hey you and I both like the Kershaw knife.... with the analogy of $20 is
not much if you loose the knife, if the quality of the Chinese Kershaw is
not what you expected, loose the knife.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, pocket lint has caused that issue for me in the past, but I'm afraid
> at this point keeping the lock mechanism clean no longer does the trick.
>
> --
I've always treated the lock on a knife like the safety on a gun. Extra
security but don't rely on it.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 10/03/2010 12:20 AM, sam wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> "Steve Turner"wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
>>>> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
>>>> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
>>>> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
>>>> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
>>> -------------------------
>>> I've always been partial to Buck.
>>>
>>> Still have a marlin spike sailor's knife I bought over 30 years ago.
>>>
>>> Take a look nat the "Stockman 301 Single Blade" for a simple piece of
>>> equipment.
>>>
>>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26lv2dm
>>>
>>>
>>> Lew
>>
>> I like the Gerber paraframe. Solid and easy to clean.
>> Plus, I sent one back to get a new screw and spacer,
>> and Gerber sent me new knife.
>>
>> http://www.rei.com/product/700567
>
> Gerber, eh? Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI just up
> the road from me. The REI pages show quite a few that look pretty good to
> me, and a lot cheaper than the Boker I was looking at. :-) I'm kinda
> partial to this one:
>
> http://www.rei.com/product/752017
Yeah I personally have known about Gerber since 1978.
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> I'd send the knife to the manufacturer with a note about how long you've
> had it, how happy you are with it, and the fondness for the little fellow
> that has grown so much that it's almost a member of your family. Going on,
> ask if it can be restored to its original beauty and utility and cost be
> damned!
>
> I'd bet a fulsome letter will get you a new knife. For free.
>
I know that Case will do that. I would bet that Kershaw would to. Good idea.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Steve Turner"wrote:
>
>
> > What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
> > that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
> > multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
> > but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
> > stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
> -------------------------
> I've always been partial to Buck.
>
> Still have a marlin spike sailor's knife I bought over 30 years ago.
>
> Take a look nat the "Stockman 301 Single Blade" for a simple piece of
> equipment.
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26lv2dm
>
>
> Lew
I like the Gerber paraframe. Solid and easy to clean.
Plus, I sent one back to get a new screw and spacer,
and Gerber sent me new knife.
http://www.rei.com/product/700567
s
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 10/03/2010 12:20 AM, sam wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> "Steve Turner"wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
> >>> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
> >>> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
> >>> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
> >>> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
> >> -------------------------
> >> I've always been partial to Buck.
> >>
> >> Still have a marlin spike sailor's knife I bought over 30 years ago.
> >>
> >> Take a look nat the "Stockman 301 Single Blade" for a simple piece of
> >> equipment.
> >>
> >> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26lv2dm
> >>
> >>
> >> Lew
> >
> > I like the Gerber paraframe. Solid and easy to clean.
> > Plus, I sent one back to get a new screw and spacer,
> > and Gerber sent me new knife.
> >
> > http://www.rei.com/product/700567
>
> Gerber, eh? Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI just up the road from me.
> The REI pages show quite a few that look pretty good to me, and a lot cheaper than the
> Boker I was looking at. :-) I'm kinda partial to this one:
>
> http://www.rei.com/product/752017
That's a nice looking knife. Yeah, Gerber's been around a long
time.
s
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Princess Auto often has some really good prices on black Olfa
> blades.... really good pricing.
In all honesty, I've never been to a Princess Auto. No particular reason
really, just that there isn't one anywhere around my neck of the woods.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Wow, I didn't know Smith & Wesson made knives. Interesting; I'll have to
> investigate further.
They don't. They contract them out and have their name on them. Last one I
saw was made in Japan. This was years ago so it wouldn't surprise me if they
are now made in China. Winchester and Remington do/ have done the same.
>
Steve Turner wrote:
> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with
> a 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>
> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>
> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to
> become lost like every other knife I've ever owned. The blade lock
> mechanism is completely worn out and no longer works, and I've had
> way too many close calls with that thing giving way and threatening
> to slice up my fingers. The cross-hatching on the handle is also
> worn completely smooth, and while I liked that when it was new, I'm
> not sure I'd go for that again.
> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
> I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things
> about them, but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's
> ability to keep an edge. I'd like to take the quality of the steel
> into consideration on this next purchase. Any thoughts or
> suggestions there?
Heh!
I'd send the knife to the manufacturer with a note about how long you've had
it, how happy you are with it, and the fondness for the little fellow that
has grown so much that it's almost a member of your family. Going on, ask if
it can be restored to its original beauty and utility and cost be damned!
I'd bet a fulsome letter will get you a new knife. For free.
On 10/2/2010 8:27 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with a
> 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>
> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>
> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to become
> lost like every other knife I've ever owned. The blade lock mechanism is
> completely worn out and no longer works, and I've had way too many close
> calls with that thing giving way and threatening to slice up my fingers.
> The cross-hatching on the handle is also worn completely smooth, and
> while I liked that when it was new, I'm not sure I'd go for that again.
>
> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like that
> style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing multi-blade or
> fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger, but not by much;
> probably under 4" total closed length. I can't stand carrying too much
> junk in my pockets!
>
> I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things about
> them, but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's ability to keep
> an edge. I'd like to take the quality of the steel into consideration on
> this next purchase. Any thoughts or suggestions there?
>
Amazon.com is a good place to research most products. Do a search on
"pocket knife" or "lock knife" or whatever, pick a category, and sort on
"average customer review." Then go in and read the actual reviews.
Odds are very good you'll find just the knife you're looking for, and it
will likely also be at (or close to) the best price you are going to
find. For example, I did this and found these knives among lots of others:
Gerber 22-41052 Stag Lock-Back Double Bolster Fine Edge Pocket Knife
> http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-22-41052-Lock-Back-Double-Bolster/dp/B001349LF2/ref=sr_1_6?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1286049720&sr=1-6
Smith & Wesson SW2001 Swat Baby Liner Lock Knife
> http://www.amazon.com/Smith-Wesson-SW2001-Liner-Knife/dp/B0016KHU0Q/ref=sr_1_52?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1286050451&sr=1-52
Buck 505 Knight Lockback Folding Knife
> http://www.amazon.com/Buck-505-Knight-Lockback-Folding/dp/B000EHUYTQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_5
Timber Wolf Folding Knife Damascus Captain
> http://www.amazon.com/Timber-Wolf-Folding-Damascus-Captain/dp/B002ZVOCCO/ref=sr_1_22?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1286050641&sr=1-22
I often research tools the same way. For example, that's how I found my
Triton router, which I mounted as a table router and simply love the result.
> http://www.amazon.com/Triton-MOF001C-4-Horsepower-Precision-Router/dp/B000DINFHY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1286051320&sr=8-2
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
> I went to Olfa LLB black blades in their respective handles some time
> ago. I'm very happy with those. They don't have the strength of a good
> lath knife, but they sure are sharp.
I use the Olfa black snap off blades too. I believe they're sharper and the
edges on them last longer too.
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 10/2/10 9:27 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with
>> a 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>>
>> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k310
>> 0.htm
>>
>> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to
>> become lost like every other knife I've ever owned.
>
> I don't know anything about knives, but if you're replacing one you've
> had for 20yrs, I'd suggest going as high end as you can. Seems to me,
> for guys like you, a pocket knife is the tool equivalent of the dog.
>
>
The problem with getting a "good" knife is that you'll lose it. I've been
in the OPs situation. The "OK" knife you can find and use is better than
the "good" knife you can't find.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> However, I think I may have just found the knife of my dreams:
>
> http://www.worldknives.com/products/boker-tree-brand-thuya-lockback-knife-bo2002th-1536.html
>
> German-made, Solingen steel, exotic hardwood handle (whatever "Thuya" wood
> is...), single blade lock knife with a nice conservative design, one that
> doesn't look like something out of a dang science fiction movie. Very
> nice! Now if I can just get past the cost: $155! I did find it for around
> $115 on eBay, and that got me kinda fingering the "Buy It Now" button, but
> then my wife had to walk in and quiz me about what I was doing. She gave
> me that "over the top of the reading glasses, with raised eyebrows" look,
> so that kinda took the wind out of my sails... :-)
I had a Boker at one time. If they still make them like they used to, you
will be happy with it. Bought mine in Germany nearly 30 years ago.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with a
> 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>
> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>
> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to become
> lost like every other knife I've ever owned. The blade lock mechanism is
> completely worn out and no longer works, and I've had way too many close
> calls with that thing giving way and threatening to slice up my fingers.
> The cross-hatching on the handle is also worn completely smooth, and while
> I liked that when it was new, I'm not sure I'd go for that again.
>
> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like that
> style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing multi-blade or
> fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger, but not by much;
> probably under 4" total closed length. I can't stand carrying too much
> junk in my pockets!
>
> I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things about
> them, but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's ability to keep
> an edge. I'd like to take the quality of the steel into consideration on
> this next purchase. Any thoughts or suggestions there?
>
> --
> If it ain't perfect, improve it...
> But don't break it while you're fixin' it!
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For about the same amount of time I have been carrying the 3115 Coral Creek
Kershaw knife. A little larger than the one you referenced but looks
exactly like it. Mine is 3.5" closed, big enough to wrap 3 of my fingers
around when opened.
Mine was made in Japan and I have been very happy with it however I noticed
also that the one you referenced is Chinese. Mine has kept an edge better
than any of my previous Bucks. Is your current one Chineese also?
Keep in mind also that my blade lock has been marginal at times, I found a
build up of pocket lint to be the culprit, you might want to take a look
into that.
On Oct 2, 11:49=A0am, Steve Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 10/2/2010 9:54 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Steve Turner"<[email protected]> =A0wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with =
a
> >> 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>
> >>http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k31..=
.
>
> >> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to beco=
me
> >> lost like every other knife I've ever owned. =A0The blade lock mechani=
sm is
> >> completely worn out and no longer works, and I've had way too many clo=
se
> >> calls with that thing giving way and threatening to slice up my finger=
s.
> >> The cross-hatching on the handle is also worn completely smooth, and w=
hile
> >> I liked that when it was new, I'm not sure I'd go for that again.
>
> >> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? =A0I like=
that
> >> style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. =A0Nothing multi-blad=
e or
> >> fancy for me. =A0I could stand to go a little larger, but not by much;
> >> probably under 4" total closed length. =A0I can't stand carrying too m=
uch
> >> junk in my pockets!
>
> >> I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things abo=
ut
> >> them, but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's ability to ke=
ep
> >> an edge. I'd like to take the quality of the steel into consideration =
on
> >> this next purchase. =A0Any thoughts or suggestions there?
>
> > For about the same amount of time I have been carrying the 3115 =A0Cora=
l Creek
> > Kershaw knife. =A0A little larger than the one you referenced but looks
> > exactly like it. =A0Mine is 3.5" closed, big enough to wrap 3 of my fin=
gers
> > around when opened.
> > Mine was made in Japan and I have been very happy with it however I not=
iced
> > also that the one you referenced is Chinese. =A0Mine has kept an edge b=
etter
> > than any of my previous Bucks. =A0Is your current one Chineese also?
>
> Nope, mine was made in Japan. =A0Looks like the new Coral Creek models ar=
e made
> in China as well.
>
> > Keep in mind also that my blade lock has been marginal at times, I foun=
d a
> > build up of pocket lint to be =A0the culprit, you might want to take a =
look
> > into that.
>
> Yeah, pocket lint has caused that issue for me in the past, but I'm afrai=
d at
> this point keeping the lock mechanism clean no longer does the trick.
>
> --
> See Nad. =A0See Nad go. =A0Go Nad!
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
There are as many different pocket knives out there as there are
different people who like certain things about them.
Highly personal.
Mine was given to me a few years back and has lived in a lightweight
Gortex pouch on my belt ever since. It's one-hand operated and has
done everything I have wanted it to do. If I lost it, I'd want the
same knife again. It's nothing fancy, well-made and matches the black
that Festool uses. *smirk*
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Your mileage WILL vary.
On Oct 3, 3:15=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Oct 3, 2:28 pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Steve Turner wrote:
>
> >>>Gerber, eh? =A0Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI ju=
st
> >>>up the road from me. =A0The REI pages show quite a few that look prett=
y
> >>>good to me, and a lot cheaper than the Boker I was looking at. =A0:-) =
=A0I'm
> >>>kinda partial to this one:
>
> >>>http://www.rei.com/product/752017
>
> >>I've carried a pocket knife since highschool over 40 years ago. =A0The =
one
> >>in my left pocket is a MeyerCo "Stingray" assisted opening drop point
> >>knife. =A0Clipped to my left pocket is a Bessey folding utility knife.
> >>For the last two years most often it's the Bessey that gets used.
>
> >>The Bessey knife came be seen at:
>
> >>http://www.woodshopdemos.com/nprod-22.htm
>
> >>Contrary to the info at the site above the blade does open easily with
> >>one hand and it is not necessary to press the blade lock release lever.
>
> >>--
> >>Jack Novak
> >>Buffalo, NY - USA
> >>[email protected]
>
> > That very same knife is available under the Husky (Home Despot)
> > brand.... at least the mechanics of it.
> > I'm thinking more of it as a promo item than an example of Bessey's
> > quality.
>
> I have a couple of Husky knives. =A0They do not have a rubberized handle,
> the thumb rest on the back of the blade or a compartment for blade
> storage. =A0Those features I find quite useful.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
I went to Olfa LLB black blades in their respective handles some time
ago. I'm very happy with those. They don't have the strength of a good
lath knife, but they sure are sharp.
Are the Husky parts interchangeable with the Bessey, you think?
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Contrary to the info at the site above the blade does open easily with one
> hand and it is not necessary to press the blade lock release lever.
Contrary to what the article says, Bessey does not make these. They are made
in China and you can buy them with various handles and with various names on
them. Mine is a Sheffield.
On 10/2/2010 11:57 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with a
> 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>
> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>
> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to become
> lost like every other knife I've ever owned. The blade lock mechanism is
> completely worn out and no longer works, and I've had way too many close
> calls with that thing giving way and threatening to slice up my fingers.
> The cross-hatching on the handle is also worn completely smooth, and
> while I liked that when it was new, I'm not sure I'd go for that again.
>
> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like that
> style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing multi-blade or
> fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger, but not by much;
> probably under 4" total closed length. I can't stand carrying too much
> junk in my pockets!
>
> I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things about
> them, but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's ability to keep
> an edge. I'd like to take the quality of the steel into consideration on
> this next purchase. Any thoughts or suggestions there?
>
I also like Kershaws knives , I had a model 1050 at one time ,given to
me by my wife , she had my intitials engraved on the blade .
Unfortunately it was taken from my house when it was burgled and I
always meant to replace it but sadly they don't list that model anymore .
In it's place I opted for a limited issue Kershaw , made in Solingen
Germany , has deer antler scales and brass bolster, 80mm hollow ground
blade ,its a folder and I have found the blade to be of good quality ,
price was 150.00AUD about 20 years ago.I dont carry it much at all as
we are not permitted to carry knves in a belt pouch here at any time .
But as a field knife for hunting it's a pearler
For ever day use I have a 3" folding boot knife made by G96 , the
boot holster has long since given up , but I wear a stockmans belt that
has a pouch sewn on to it the knife fits into it and lays parrallel with
the belt ,and has a small flap with a press stud fastner ,It sits just
left of the buckle and is rather obscure ( hides under my drooping gut)
and dosen't stand out ,in fact most people dont realise that I carry a
knife at all except when I take it out and usually get the question
"where did you get that from ?" I reply with a question " the knife or
the gut?" .
The little G96 I've had since the late 70's holds a good edge and
It gets used for every thing from opening parcels to skinning game.
I owned a Puma one time , excellent knife , cost way more than my
Kershaws together when I bought it , unfortunately it's laying in a
field somewhere a long way from where I live now. Hopefully some one
found it and gave it good home.
--
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"I'm not young enough to know everything."
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On 10/2/2010 9:54 AM, Leon wrote:
> "Steve Turner"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with a
>> 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>>
>> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>>
>> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to become
>> lost like every other knife I've ever owned. The blade lock mechanism is
>> completely worn out and no longer works, and I've had way too many close
>> calls with that thing giving way and threatening to slice up my fingers.
>> The cross-hatching on the handle is also worn completely smooth, and while
>> I liked that when it was new, I'm not sure I'd go for that again.
>>
>> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like that
>> style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing multi-blade or
>> fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger, but not by much;
>> probably under 4" total closed length. I can't stand carrying too much
>> junk in my pockets!
>>
>> I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things about
>> them, but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's ability to keep
>> an edge. I'd like to take the quality of the steel into consideration on
>> this next purchase. Any thoughts or suggestions there?
>
> For about the same amount of time I have been carrying the 3115 Coral Creek
> Kershaw knife. A little larger than the one you referenced but looks
> exactly like it. Mine is 3.5" closed, big enough to wrap 3 of my fingers
> around when opened.
> Mine was made in Japan and I have been very happy with it however I noticed
> also that the one you referenced is Chinese. Mine has kept an edge better
> than any of my previous Bucks. Is your current one Chineese also?
Nope, mine was made in Japan. Looks like the new Coral Creek models are made
in China as well.
> Keep in mind also that my blade lock has been marginal at times, I found a
> build up of pocket lint to be the culprit, you might want to take a look
> into that.
Yeah, pocket lint has caused that issue for me in the past, but I'm afraid at
this point keeping the lock mechanism clean no longer does the trick.
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On 10/2/10 9:27 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with a
> 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>
> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>
> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to become
> lost like every other knife I've ever owned.
I don't know anything about knives, but if you're replacing one you've
had for 20yrs, I'd suggest going as high end as you can. Seems to me,
for guys like you, a pocket knife is the tool equivalent of the dog.
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On 10/2/2010 12:03 PM, Brad Bruce wrote:
> -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 10/2/10 9:27 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
>>> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with
>>> a 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>>>
>>> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k310
>>> 0.htm
>>>
>>> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to
>>> become lost like every other knife I've ever owned.
>>
>> I don't know anything about knives, but if you're replacing one you've
>> had for 20yrs, I'd suggest going as high end as you can. Seems to me,
>> for guys like you, a pocket knife is the tool equivalent of the dog.
>
> The problem with getting a "good" knife is that you'll lose it. I've been
> in the OPs situation. The "OK" knife you can find and use is better than
> the "good" knife you can't find.
Well I certainly appreciate owning and using tools of exceptional quality, and
I try to do my homework and buy the best tools I can whenever I'm in the
market, but there definitely IS that specter of "you're gonna lose that damn
thing!" hanging over my head! Before I got the Kershaw I'd lost a zillion
pocketknives, then I got this one and it all changed. I guess they're loss proof!
I was surprised that the prices on those Kershaws that Leon and I were talking
about aren't very high; around $20. At that price losing one wouldn't be that
big of a deal, but I'm still pretty keen on getting something with better
quality and I have to wonder if the current "made in China" versions aren't a
drop down from what I already have. I wouldn't be adverse to spending closer
to $50 if the quality was significantly better. That's where I was hoping
somebody here might have some suggestions.
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On 10/2/2010 3:31 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> Amazon.com is a good place to research most products. Do a search on "pocket
> knife" or "lock knife" or whatever, pick a category, and sort on "average
> customer review." Then go in and read the actual reviews. Odds are very good
> you'll find just the knife you're looking for, and it will likely also be at
> (or close to) the best price you are going to find. For example, I did this and
> found these knives among lots of others:
>
> Gerber 22-41052 Stag Lock-Back Double Bolster Fine Edge Pocket Knife
>> http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-22-41052-Lock-Back-Double-Bolster/dp/B001349LF2/ref=sr_1_6?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1286049720&sr=1-6
>
> Smith & Wesson SW2001 Swat Baby Liner Lock Knife
>> http://www.amazon.com/Smith-Wesson-SW2001-Liner-Knife/dp/B0016KHU0Q/ref=sr_1_52?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1286050451&sr=1-52
Wow, I didn't know Smith & Wesson made knives. Interesting; I'll have to
investigate further.
> Buck 505 Knight Lockback Folding Knife
>> http://www.amazon.com/Buck-505-Knight-Lockback-Folding/dp/B000EHUYTQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_5
I had a knife very similar to this one. Bought it in 1988 and lost it about a
month later. That was one of my favorites... <sniff>
> Timber Wolf Folding Knife Damascus Captain
>> http://www.amazon.com/Timber-Wolf-Folding-Damascus-Captain/dp/B002ZVOCCO/ref=sr_1_22?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1286050641&sr=1-22
>
> I often research tools the same way. For example, that's how I found my Triton
> router, which I mounted as a table router and simply love the result.
>> http://www.amazon.com/Triton-MOF001C-4-Horsepower-Precision-Router/dp/B000DINFHY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1286051320&sr=8-2
Yes, I do the same thing. Some good pointers; thanks.
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On 10/2/2010 6:57 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Steve Turner"wrote:
>
>
>> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
>> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
>> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
>> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
>> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
> -------------------------
> I've always been partial to Buck.
>
> Still have a marlin spike sailor's knife I bought over 30 years ago.
>
> Take a look nat the "Stockman 301 Single Blade" for a simple piece of
> equipment.
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26lv2dm
>
>
> Lew
I've had a couple of Buck knives through the years and I liked them very much.
However, I just looked through that entire list and didn't find anything that
really struck me as "me", and I found a whole LOT of stuff that made me say
"What the HELL?" I kind felt like I was shopping for a pair of tennis shoes.
Thanks anyway though. :-)
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On 10/2/2010 8:46 PM, CW wrote:
> "Steve Turner"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Wow, I didn't know Smith& Wesson made knives. Interesting; I'll have to
>> investigate further.
>
> They don't. They contract them out and have their name on them. Last one I
> saw was made in Japan. This was years ago so it wouldn't surprise me if they
> are now made in China. Winchester and Remington do/ have done the same.
Yeah, I looked at some sites that had a whole host of "Smith & Wesson" knives.
I was suitably underwhelmed.
However, I think I may have just found the knife of my dreams:
http://www.worldknives.com/products/boker-tree-brand-thuya-lockback-knife-bo2002th-1536.html
German-made, Solingen steel, exotic hardwood handle (whatever "Thuya" wood
is...), single blade lock knife with a nice conservative design, one that
doesn't look like something out of a dang science fiction movie. Very nice!
Now if I can just get past the cost: $155! I did find it for around $115 on
eBay, and that got me kinda fingering the "Buy It Now" button, but then my wife
had to walk in and quiz me about what I was doing. She gave me that "over the
top of the reading glasses, with raised eyebrows" look, so that kinda took the
wind out of my sails... :-)
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On 10/2/10 8:08 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 10/2/2010 4:25 PM, KIMOSABE wrote:
>>
>> http://www.hammacher.com/publish/74670.asp?source=FindGift&keyword=74670&cm_ven=NewGate&cm_cat=FindGift&cm_pla=HOME%20SOLUTIONS&cm_ite=74670#
>>
>
> What, no drum key?
>
I think I saw a tuning fork, though. :-)
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On 10/03/2010 12:20 AM, sam wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> "Steve Turner"wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
>>> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
>>> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
>>> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
>>> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
>> -------------------------
>> I've always been partial to Buck.
>>
>> Still have a marlin spike sailor's knife I bought over 30 years ago.
>>
>> Take a look nat the "Stockman 301 Single Blade" for a simple piece of
>> equipment.
>>
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26lv2dm
>>
>>
>> Lew
>
> I like the Gerber paraframe. Solid and easy to clean.
> Plus, I sent one back to get a new screw and spacer,
> and Gerber sent me new knife.
>
> http://www.rei.com/product/700567
Gerber, eh? Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI just up the road from me.
The REI pages show quite a few that look pretty good to me, and a lot cheaper than the
Boker I was looking at. :-) I'm kinda partial to this one:
http://www.rei.com/product/752017
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On 10/4/2010 7:42 AM, Leon wrote:
> "Steve Turner"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Gerber, eh? Thanks; Wasn't aware of that brand, and I have a REI just up
>> the road from me. The REI pages show quite a few that look pretty good to
>> me, and a lot cheaper than the Boker I was looking at. :-) I'm kinda
>> partial to this one:
>>
>> http://www.rei.com/product/752017
>
> Yeah I personally have known about Gerber since 1978.
Must have slipped past me all these years. Wouldn't be the first time! :-)
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On 10/4/2010 8:14 AM, Leon wrote:
> "Steve Turner"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 10/2/2010 12:03 PM, Brad Bruce wrote:
>>> -MIKE-<[email protected]> wrote in
>
>>
>> I was surprised that the prices on those Kershaws that Leon and I were
>> talking about aren't very high; around $20. At that price losing one
>> wouldn't be that big of a deal, but I'm still pretty keen on getting
>> something with better quality and I have to wonder if the current "made in
>> China" versions aren't a drop down from what I already have. I wouldn't
>> be adverse to spending closer to $50 if the quality was significantly
>> better. That's where I was hoping somebody here might have some
>> suggestions.
>
>
> Hey you and I both like the Kershaw knife.... with the analogy of $20 is
> not much if you loose the knife, if the quality of the Chinese Kershaw is
> not what you expected, loose the knife.
I do like the Kershaw knife, but I've been a little disappointed in its ability
to hold an edge, and I'm really just ready for something different, a bit
bigger, and with the best quality steel I can find. I'm still pretty sweet on
that Boker knife, but I've been instructed not to buy such things for myself so
close to Christmas. Perhaps it will show up in my stocking this year. :-)
I did also read the Kershaw warranty info (which HeyBub also posted here) and I
am curious about whether they would honor it, but I don't think I'll send off
my knife to find out until after Christmas. I don't want to be without a knife
while I'm waiting for them to decide. :-)
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On 10/4/10 7:46 AM, Leon wrote:
> "willshak"<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> HeyBub wrote the following:
>>> Steve Turner wrote:
>
>
>> From their site:
>> Limited Lifetime Warranty
>> Kershaw products are guaranteed for the lifetime of the original owner to
>> be free of defects when received from the factory. Any product we find to
>> be defective in its original material, construction, or workmanship will
>> be repaired or replaced with the same item or one of equal value at no
>> charge. (Of course, normal wear, abuse such as prying with the knife, or
>> neglect are excluded from this non-transferable warranty.) For warranty
>> service, please return product via UPS or insured mail. Include your name,
>> address, telephone number, and a short explanation of the warranty service
>> requested to the address below. Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.
>>
>> Kai USA ltd., Kershaw Knives
>> WARRANTY DEPARTMENT
>> 18600 SW Teton Avenue
>> Tualatin, OR 97062
>
>
> The stickler here may be the statement that the knife has a lifetime
> warranty when "received" from the factory. I think that reads if you buy
> direct from Kershaw, not from a retailer.
>
I highly doubt that. They wouldn't have any retailers if that were the
case.
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On 10/4/2010 1:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 4, 9:08 am, Steve Turner<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hey... SteveO...
>
> Try to make sense of this post. I am on my second pot of coffee on a
> marathon of cleaning up paperwork and outstanding estimates that have
> to go out this week. Waaayy too much caffeine.
>
>> I do like the Kershaw knife, but I've been a little disappointed in its ability
>> to hold an edge, and I'm really just ready for something different, a bit
>> bigger, and with the best quality steel I can find.
>
> The Kershaw knife you have has a blade made from AUS6, which was a
> good standard at the time. It is pretty much relegated to less
> expensive knives these days, or knives that are hard to sharpen due to
> their size or shapes.
>
> Good news: AUS6 doesn't rust unless abused. Blades don't break
> because the steel is only hardened to about RC 55 or a couple of
> points less. Easy to sharpen.
>
> Bad news: Needs frequent sharpening
Well it's good to hear a sensible explanation as to why I was always thinking
"How come this damn thing ain't sharp? Didn't I just hone it last week?"
<reluctantly snipping a bunch of great stuff>
> I was really surprised the first time I got a knife with a pocket clip
> on it. They ride right down the seam of my jeans and I literally
> can't feel the knife at all when I have it clipped. Thanks to the
> Bladeforums crew, I found this extremely affordable knife which is my
> favorite work knife:
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/26njpgm
<more snips>
> When I know it won't get too abused, and I am doing all woodwork, this
> is by far and away my favorite work knife to pack around:
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/d29tvp
Nice knives, but those dudes are just a WEE bit bigger than what I had in mind.
Even the Boker I've been looking at, which clocks in with a close length of
4-1/4" is bigger than I really want to carry around in my cushy office job... :-)
> As a sidebar, there have been a lot of questions about the Kershaw
> lines that have moved to China. You knife in particular was brought
> into question a few months ago, and the consensus was that the Chinese
> models are as good or better than the Japanese models made by Seki.
>
> Like any other manufacturer, Kershaw has their clinkers, but the
> consensus is that they will stand by their product, barring abuse.
Sounds good. I probably will see if I can get this one taken care of under
warranty service; it just might be a while before I will do it and find out how
it goes.
As usual Robert, thanks for the in-depth and helpful response!
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On 10/5/10 7:51 AM, Leon wrote:
> "-MIKE-"<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On 10/4/10 7:46 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> "willshak"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> HeyBub wrote the following:
>>>>> Steve Turner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> From their site:
>>>> Limited Lifetime Warranty
>>>> Kershaw products are guaranteed for the lifetime of the original owner
>>>> to
>>>> be free of defects when received from the factory. Any product we find
>>>> to
>>>> be defective in its original material, construction, or workmanship will
>>>> be repaired or replaced with the same item or one of equal value at no
>>>> charge. (Of course, normal wear, abuse such as prying with the knife, or
>>>> neglect are excluded from this non-transferable warranty.) For warranty
>>>> service, please return product via UPS or insured mail. Include your
>>>> name,
>>>> address, telephone number, and a short explanation of the warranty
>>>> service
>>>> requested to the address below. Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.
>>>>
>>>> Kai USA ltd., Kershaw Knives
>>>> WARRANTY DEPARTMENT
>>>> 18600 SW Teton Avenue
>>>> Tualatin, OR 97062
>>>
>>>
>>> The stickler here may be the statement that the knife has a lifetime
>>> warranty when "received" from the factory. I think that reads if you buy
>>> direct from Kershaw, not from a retailer.
>>>
>>
>> I highly doubt that. They wouldn't have any retailers if that were the
>> case.
>
> That is actually a common practice, the manufacturer offering a better
> warranty than the retailers, Not uncommon for a manufacturer to offer a life
> time warranty an $X + X% the retailer offering a shorter warranty at $X
>
I guess I was thinking warranty vs. NO warranty.
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HeyBub wrote the following:
> Steve Turner wrote:
>
>> Yeah, my trusty ol' Kershaw "Grant County" model 3100 lock knife with
>> a 1-7/8" blade and black ABS handle:
>>
>> http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw_Grant_County_Plain_Knife_p/k3100.htm
>>
>> has finally outlived its usefulness after 20 years of refusing to
>> become lost like every other knife I've ever owned. The blade lock
>> mechanism is completely worn out and no longer works, and I've had
>> way too many close calls with that thing giving way and threatening
>> to slice up my fingers. The cross-hatching on the handle is also
>> worn completely smooth, and while I liked that when it was new, I'm
>> not sure I'd go for that again.
>> What are your favorite candidates for a similar replacement? I like
>> that style; a single blade lock knife with no frills. Nothing
>> multi-blade or fancy for me. I could stand to go a little larger,
>> but not by much; probably under 4" total closed length. I can't
>> stand carrying too much junk in my pockets!
>> I think Kershaw is a fine brand and I've heard lots of good things
>> about them, but I haven't been overly impressed by the blade's
>> ability to keep an edge. I'd like to take the quality of the steel
>> into consideration on this next purchase. Any thoughts or
>> suggestions there?
>>
>
> Heh!
>
> I'd send the knife to the manufacturer with a note about how long you've had
> it, how happy you are with it, and the fondness for the little fellow that
> has grown so much that it's almost a member of your family. Going on, ask if
> it can be restored to its original beauty and utility and cost be damned!
>
> I'd bet a fulsome letter will get you a new knife. For free.
From their site:
Limited Lifetime Warranty
Kershaw products are guaranteed for the lifetime of the original owner
to be free of defects when received from the factory. Any product we
find to be defective in its original material, construction, or
workmanship will be repaired or replaced with the same item or one of
equal value at no charge. (Of course, normal wear, abuse such as prying
with the knife, or neglect are excluded from this non-transferable
warranty.) For warranty service, please return product via UPS or
insured mail. Include your name, address, telephone number, and a short
explanation of the warranty service requested to the address below.
Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.
Kai USA ltd., Kershaw Knives
WARRANTY DEPARTMENT
18600 SW Teton Avenue
Tualatin, OR 97062
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> On 10/4/10 7:46 AM, Leon wrote:
>> "willshak"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> HeyBub wrote the following:
>>>> Steve Turner wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From their site:
>>> Limited Lifetime Warranty
>>> Kershaw products are guaranteed for the lifetime of the original owner
>>> to
>>> be free of defects when received from the factory. Any product we find
>>> to
>>> be defective in its original material, construction, or workmanship will
>>> be repaired or replaced with the same item or one of equal value at no
>>> charge. (Of course, normal wear, abuse such as prying with the knife, or
>>> neglect are excluded from this non-transferable warranty.) For warranty
>>> service, please return product via UPS or insured mail. Include your
>>> name,
>>> address, telephone number, and a short explanation of the warranty
>>> service
>>> requested to the address below. Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.
>>>
>>> Kai USA ltd., Kershaw Knives
>>> WARRANTY DEPARTMENT
>>> 18600 SW Teton Avenue
>>> Tualatin, OR 97062
>>
>>
>> The stickler here may be the statement that the knife has a lifetime
>> warranty when "received" from the factory. I think that reads if you buy
>> direct from Kershaw, not from a retailer.
>>
>
> I highly doubt that. They wouldn't have any retailers if that were the
> case.
That is actually a common practice, the manufacturer offering a better
warranty than the retailers, Not uncommon for a manufacturer to offer a life
time warranty an $X + X% the retailer offering a shorter warranty at $X