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I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
page.
Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
stryped <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>...
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
> company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
> It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
> page.
>
> Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
> of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
>
>
1.) Where is the
tree-hugger/save-the-earth/environmentally-conscious-left-wing out cry?????
All those hyrdocarbons being wasted....polluting the air.....global warming
(caused by car warming????- rofl).......yada, yada, yada.
Oh, that's right. The mother-earth/tree-huggers who, ironically, overheat
their houses with wood stoves really NEED to step into a warm car.
They all have remote starters on their Saabs and Volvos.
Some truly environmentally-conscious politician - Ted Kennedy, perhaps -
should introduce an anti-remote-starter bill......but, wait.....He probably
either gets a ride to work in a pre-heated limo or has a remote starter
himself.
2.) Engines warm up faster and more evenly under load than just idling.
And the rest of the driveline - transmissions, differentials and transaxles
- warms up at a similar rate - under use.
They just sit there and stay cold when the engine only is idling.
Yeah!...I know that tranny fluid is being circulated by the pump in at
idle, but it is minimal flow when the tranny is in Park....not even
reaching as many areas as when the tranny is in Neutral - let alone in
Drive. Check out a transmission flow chart some time.
People who use remote starters probably NEVER think about the cold
transmission/differential/transaxle. The engine's warm, so let's head on up
the highway at 70 mph.
Better get ready to deal with the slimeballs at Aamco and Cottman.
3.) Allowing ANY engine to idle for long periods contaminates the oil,
washes down the oil film on the cylinder walls, etc......MORE wear and tear
on the engine - just to avoid a little cold air - and a little exercise
scraping the window and sweeping off the snow.
4.) Remote starting allows an ice-cold engine to idle under cold-start/run,
rich fuel mixture conditions - allowing even MORE fuel contamination of the
oil....and the engine stays in "open loop" longer since it doesn't reach
normalized condition as quickly as when it is being driven.
5.) Figure 40 miles of engine wear for every hour a vehicle idles.......40
miles of engine wear NOT recorded on the odometer of a
remote-starter-equipped vehicle.
City police cars are said to have approximately twice the odometer mileage
on their engines than the odometer indicates due to excessive idling.
Taxicabs are similar.
Knowing this, would YOU buy a used police cruiser or taxicab? Would YOU buy
ANY used car with a remote starter that has, likely, spent an inordinate
amount of its lifetime idling?
6.) As pointed out elsewhere, leaving your car idling is breaking the law
in some communities.
Perhaps you consider the law to be foolish, and you choose to ignore it.
That's fine.
Well, don't be too harsh on the drug addict who considers property laws to
be foolish when he needs a fix, so he breaks into your house and steals
your personal property.
Maybe he agrees totally with the anti-idling law, so it's a wash.......
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>...
>
> "*" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:01c64cf1$b27cf200$2da6c3d8@race...
> > Some truly environmentally-conscious politician - Ted Kennedy, perhaps
-
> > should introduce an anti-remote-starter bill......but, wait.....He
> > probably
> > either gets a ride to work in a pre-heated limo or has a remote starter
> > himself.
>
> Nah... he can't even imagine remotely starting a car while it's under
water!
>
> LLoyd
He told the police that he DID try to start the car and drive it out,
but.........
......it wouldn't start because it was flooded
Oleg Lego <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>...
> The Leon entity posted thusly:
>
> Ours has a 'winter mode', for when you are parked in a lot that has no
> plug-ins (yes, we plug our block heaters in during the winter). What
> it does is start the car periodically, and each time, runs it for a
> predetermined time. This keeps the oil from getting to the consistency
> of restaurant butter.
>
>
Up in Maine, we use a system that we fondly refer to as, "Regular Oil
Changes" that helps keep the "restaurant butter" out of our
crankcases......
x-no-archive:yes
It starts my truck for me when I want via remote. It is helpful when
there is frost because my wife parks in the garage and my truck wont
fit too because of all my tools!
Leon wrote:
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > x-no-archive:yes
> >
> > I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
> > company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
> > It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
> > page.
> >
> > Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
> > of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
> >
> What purpose does a remote starter serve?
Gunner wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:11:03 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> x-no-archive:yes
> >>
> >> I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
> >> company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
> >> It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
> >> page.
> >>
> >> Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
> >> of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
> >>
> >What purpose does a remote starter serve?
> >
> It prevents you from being killed by an explosive based mob hit.
>
Damn, there goes our plan to stop him from x-no-archiving his articles!
--
FF
P.S. Thanks for the tip about the lights.
Leon wrote:
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > x-no-archive:yes
> >
> > I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
> > company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
> > It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
> > page.
> >
> > Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
> > of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
> >
> What purpose does a remote starter serve?
It automatically turns on his dust collection system everytime
SWMBO goes shopping.
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* wrote:
> Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>...
> >
> > "*" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:01c64cf1$b27cf200$2da6c3d8@race...
> > > Some truly environmentally-conscious politician - Ted Kennedy, perhaps
> -
> > > should introduce an anti-remote-starter bill......but, wait.....He
> > > probably
> > > either gets a ride to work in a pre-heated limo or has a remote starter
> > > himself.
> >
> > Nah... he can't even imagine remotely starting a car while it's under
> water!
> >
> > LLoyd
>
>
> He told the police that he DID try to start the car and drive it out,
> but.........
>
I heard that being the good swimmer that he was
he dove back down to the car several times
and locked the doors...
--
FF
Leon wrote:
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> x-no-archive:yes
>>
>> It starts my truck for me when I want via remote. It is helpful when
>> there is frost because my wife parks in the garage and my truck wont
>> fit too because of all my tools!
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>
>
> So you trust your vehicle to not take off accidentally? And yes, I know it
> should not happen but what if, the doors were unlocked or the windows were
> down and a kid got in side. Having retired from the automotive industry I
> have seen a lot of situations where vehicles left unattended ended up in an
> accident.
>
A properly installed remote vehicle starter automatically locks the
doors when it is started. It will not start an automatic transmission
equipped vehicle if the vehicle is not in park. If installed on a manual
transmission vehicle, the remote starter will not operate if the gear
shift is not in neutral and the hand brake applied.
Also, when you unlock the doors and get inside while the engine is
running without the key inserted in the ignition switch, moving the
shifter, or touching the brakes, will shut the engine off, and the key
has to be inserted to start the car normally. You can not operate the
vehicle if the key is not inserted. Of course, the kid may have the key,
but then, the remote starter is not a factor in what happens next.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >'67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned
was
> >always the best.
> >
> 59 Studebaker Lark VI? Nope. It was great because it got me off the 1
> hour school bus ride (one way). But best car? Nah.
You don't remember the thrill of the first time you actually owned and drove
the first car that was all yours? I do. While there were later cars that
handled better and were faster, the first one had its own particular thrill.
Almost like sex.
(I said almost, not that it was)
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >'67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned
> was
> > >always the best.
> > >
> > 59 Studebaker Lark VI? Nope. It was great because it got me off the 1
> > hour school bus ride (one way). But best car? Nah.
>
> You don't remember the thrill of the first time you actually owned and
drove
> the first car that was all yours? I do. While there were later cars that
> handled better and were faster, the first one had its own particular
thrill.
> Almost like sex.
>
Well then, there was also that direct connection between your first car and
sex...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rH%[email protected]...
>
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >
> > Sure - it's more efficient, but it's still a lot better even at an idle
> > than
> > just jumping in the car.
>
>
> Maybe up North. ;~)
>
>
Yeah - but that's where I am. That engine running time really earns its
keep more in the winter though.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Leon entity posted thusly:
>
>>
>>"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> x no archive: yup
>
> Above line disabled.
>
>>>
>>> It starts my truck for me when I want via
>>> remote. It is helpful when
>>> there is frost because my wife parks in the
>>> garage and my truck wont
>>> fit too because of all my tools!
>>> Leon wrote:
>
>>So you trust your vehicle to not take off
>>accidentally? And yes, I know it
>>should not happen but what if, the doors were
>>unlocked or the windows were
>>down and a kid got in side. Having retired from
>>the automotive industry I
>>have seen a lot of situations where vehicles
>>left unattended ended up in an
>>accident.
>
> I can't speak for stryped's car or brand of
> remote starter, but any
> well designed one will have all sorts of
> safeguards against this sort
> of thing. They pretty much have to be well
> designed in this day of
> litigious actions for virtually every little
> thing.
>
> The one on my wife's car, for example, cannot be
> moved after starting
> the engine remotely until the key has been
> placed into the ignition
> switch and turned to the 'ON' position.
>
> With the motor running after remote starting,
> you cannot place the
> transmission (automatic) into gear without
> pressing the brake pedal.
> Pressing the brake pedal before inserting and
> turning the key will
> cause the engine to shut off immediately.
>
> A remote starter is a marvellous invention for
> those of us in the
> frozen north, who would much rather enter a
> warmed-up car with the
> seat heaters already going.
>
Great Concept! Maybe if they had had those 30
years ago I wouldn't have left Saskatchewan, but
not likely.
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:11:03 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> x-no-archive:yes
>>
>> I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
>> company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
>> It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
>> page.
>>
>> Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
>> of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
>>
>What purpose does a remote starter serve?
>
It prevents you from being killed by an explosive based mob hit.
Unless they wire it to the headlight switch or the back up lights
Gunner
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
The Leon entity posted thusly:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> It automatically turns on his dust collection system everytime
>> SWMBO goes shopping.
>>
>NOW I am getting some good answers, LOL
Actually, I just thought of another one, though it isn't incorporated
on all brands of remote starter.
Ours has a 'winter mode', for when you are parked in a lot that has no
plug-ins (yes, we plug our block heaters in during the winter). What
it does is start the car periodically, and each time, runs it for a
predetermined time. This keeps the oil from getting to the consistency
of restaurant butter.
"Odinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
>
> I thought about the remote starter thing, but my vehicle has no heater,
> but I do have air condition (I get the air in any condition it comes
> in). EFI makes it simple, start it up and go, no warm up needed.
Reminds me of the time thirty years ago when I went out in winter, started
up my Thunderbird, turned on the heater and went back inside to wait for it
to warm up. Fell asleep and woke up 8 hours later. Car was still idling, all
the snow around the car for three feet was melted and the seats were so hot
I couldn't sit on them. The car never ran properly after that.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> It starts my truck for me when I want via remote. It is helpful when
> there is frost because my wife parks in the garage and my truck wont
> fit too because of all my tools!
> Leon wrote:
So you trust your vehicle to not take off accidentally? And yes, I know it
should not happen but what if, the doors were unlocked or the windows were
down and a kid got in side. Having retired from the automotive industry I
have seen a lot of situations where vehicles left unattended ended up in an
accident.
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:21:25 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> At least it is not likely that it was a two-seater T-bird, which
>> I would consider more of a loss.
>
>'67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned was
>always the best.
>
59 Studebaker Lark VI? Nope. It was great because it got me off the 1
hour school bus ride (one way). But best car? Nah.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
According to Enoch Root <[email protected]>:
> Upscale wrote:
[ ... ]
> > Reminds me of the time thirty years ago when I went out in winter, started
> > up my Thunderbird, turned on the heater and went back inside to wait for it
> > to warm up. Fell asleep and woke up 8 hours later. Car was still idling, all
> > the snow around the car for three feet was melted and the seats were so hot
> > I couldn't sit on them. The car never ran properly after that.
>
> You did that to a thunderbird? Shame, fie!
At least it is not likely that it was a two-seater T-bird, which
I would consider more of a loss.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2006/3/20 11:16 PM, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> How hard is it to start the car from inside the house? I am for ever
> accidentally unarming my car alarm when the change in my pocket pushes on a
> button. That would be kinda tough on a car engine idling all night long.
The ones I am familiar with require two separate button press actions. This
makes an accidental activation much less likely.
Also, the engine shuts down if you don't put the key in the ignition in a
certain time period.
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Well then, there was also that direct connection between your first car
and
> sex...
Actually, the connection was a lot more direct than you'd think. The T-bird
was a true chick magnet. All that chrome, suicide rear doors, pop-over
steering wheel, powered windows. The only improvement that I can think of
was if it had been a convertible T-bird with the roof that folds up and goes
in the trunk.
For a standard four door car of its day, it was and is the most luxurious
car I've ever ridden in to date. Maybe that makes me a deprived person, but
there you go.
On 3/22/2006 11:21 PM Upscale mumbled something about the following:
> "DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> At least it is not likely that it was a two-seater T-bird, which
>> I would consider more of a loss.
>
> '67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned was
> always the best.
>
>
I don't know about that, my first car was a 1960 Ford Country Squire
wagon that I paid $100 for in 1975, my second was a 1957 Chevy B210 that
I paid $100 for in 1976, my third was a 1959 Biscayne that I paid $100
for in 1977, my 4th car was a 1963 Ford Galaxy 500 that I paid $100 for
in 1978. I happen to think my second, third and subsequent cars were
MUCH better cars than my first.
--
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On 3/22/2006 11:55 PM Upscale mumbled something about the following:
> "Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>> '67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned
> was
>>> always the best.
>>>
>> 59 Studebaker Lark VI? Nope. It was great because it got me off the 1
>> hour school bus ride (one way). But best car? Nah.
>
> You don't remember the thrill of the first time you actually owned and drove
> the first car that was all yours? I do. While there were later cars that
> handled better and were faster, the first one had its own particular thrill.
> Almost like sex.
>
> (I said almost, not that it was)
>
>
Not really, since I drove the family car for a year before I bought my
first car. Now, I do remember the thrill of owning my first motorcycle.
That was as good as sex.
--
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worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton
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stryped wrote:
>x-no-archive:yes
>
>I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
>company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
> It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
>page.
>
>Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
>of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
>
>
>
"*" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:01c64cf1$b27cf200$2da6c3d8@race...
> Some truly environmentally-conscious politician - Ted Kennedy, perhaps -
> should introduce an anti-remote-starter bill......but, wait.....He
> probably
> either gets a ride to work in a pre-heated limo or has a remote starter
> himself.
Nah... he can't even imagine remotely starting a car while it's under water!
LLoyd
"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> At least it is not likely that it was a two-seater T-bird, which
> I would consider more of a loss.
'67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned was
always the best.
Oleg Lego wrote:
> The Leon entity posted thusly:
>
>
>>"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>The Leon entity posted thusly:
>>>
>>>A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
>>>frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
>>>seat heaters already going.
>>
>>So uh you can do like us in the South and simply go out there, start the
>>car, and then go back inside? ;~)
>
>
> Does it get to -30 in the south very often?
Oh yah, takes 10 minutes just ta get yer parrka 'n stuff an, sure.
A little collder and ya might wanna put an a sweater, tew.
er
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Upscale wrote:
> "Odinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:
>
>>I thought about the remote starter thing, but my vehicle has no heater,
>>but I do have air condition (I get the air in any condition it comes
>>in). EFI makes it simple, start it up and go, no warm up needed.
>
>
> Reminds me of the time thirty years ago when I went out in winter, started
> up my Thunderbird, turned on the heater and went back inside to wait for it
> to warm up. Fell asleep and woke up 8 hours later. Car was still idling, all
> the snow around the car for three feet was melted and the seats were so hot
> I couldn't sit on them. The car never ran properly after that.
You did that to a thunderbird? Shame, fie!
er
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Humm. I suspect that Most professionals wire the car to explode when the
> key is turned. Most professionals that do this kind of stuff work in the
> entertainment industry. :~)
Hey! I resemble that remark! (and I've never _deliberately_ blown up a
car... we won't talk about the 'accidents' <G>)
LLoyd
"*" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> 1.) Where is the
> tree-hugger/save-the-earth/environmentally-conscious-left-wing out
> cry?????
>> 2.) Engines warm up faster and more evenly under load than just idling.
> People who use remote starters probably NEVER think about the cold
> transmission/differential/transaxle. The engine's warm, so let's head on
> up
> the highway at 70 mph.
Some of us are very aware of the situation. Two miles from my house to the
highway.
> 3.) Allowing ANY engine to idle for long periods contaminates the oil,
> washes down the oil film on the cylinder walls, etc......MORE wear and
> tear
> on the engine - just to avoid a little cold air - and a little exercise
> scraping the window and sweeping off the snow.
While you make some good points, I'm still getting a remote starter in my
new car. Yep, I don't like freezing my ass of for the first five minutes of
my 35 minute commute. In winter, my overall mileage drops about 2 mpg for
the warm up time I do. The remote just saves me from running out and
starting the car while I come back into the house to finish my tea.
--
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> How hard is it to start the car from inside the house? I am for ever
> accidentally unarming my car alarm when the change in my pocket pushes on
> a button. That would be kinda tough on a car engine idling all night
> long.
I've done that too. Now, when I walk in the house I toss my keys on a shelf.
My next car WILL have a remote starter.
Oleg Lego wrote:
> A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
> frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
> seat heaters already going.
Easier to move south :)
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > x-no-archive:yes
> >
> > It starts my truck for me when I want via remote. It is helpful when
> > there is frost because my wife parks in the garage and my truck wont
> > fit too because of all my tools!
> > Leon wrote:
>
>
> So you trust your vehicle to not take off accidentally? And yes, I know
it
> should not happen but what if, the doors were unlocked or the windows were
> down and a kid got in side. Having retired from the automotive industry I
> have seen a lot of situations where vehicles left unattended ended up in
an
> accident.
>
>
These remote start systems incorporate a kill function for just this type of
thing or for theft prevention. You have to insert the key and turn it to
the normal run position to do anything. Simply stepping on the brake pedal
is usually enough to kill the engine.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> So uh you can do like us in the South and simply go out there, start the
> car, and then go back inside? ;~)
>
> How hard is it to start the car from inside the house? I am for ever
> accidentally unarming my car alarm when the change in my pocket pushes on
a
> button. That would be kinda tough on a car engine idling all night long.
>
Nah - they usually shut off after 15 minutes or so. In the northeast they
are handy devices. I installed one in my wife's car so that she did not
have to walk out to the parking lot to start her car in the winter to warm
it up and de-ice the windshield. She'd start it from inside work and by the
time she went out to it the car was warm and the windows were at least
somewhat melted of ice instead of her having to stand out there with an ice
scraper like we used to do in the dark ages. In the summer it's handy to
jump into an already cooled down car.
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:28:15 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> > >'67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned
>> was
>> > >always the best.
>> > >
>> > 59 Studebaker Lark VI? Nope. It was great because it got me off the 1
>> > hour school bus ride (one way). But best car? Nah.
>>
>> You don't remember the thrill of the first time you actually owned and
>drove
>> the first car that was all yours? I do. While there were later cars that
>> handled better and were faster, the first one had its own particular
>thrill.
>> Almost like sex.
>>
>
>Well then, there was also that direct connection between your first car and
>sex...
Yeah --- 59 Studebaker Lark VI, Tahitian Coral Enamel (almost pink for
the uninitiated). You betcha, got lots of dates with that. not.
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> night long.
>
>
> In the summer it's handy to
> > jump into an already cooled down car.
>
>
> LOL.. Maybe in the North. If you lived in the South where it really gets
> hot you would soon learn that an automobile has to be moving for the air
> conditioning to work properly or efficiently. IIRC My remote will roll
down
> the windows.
>
>
Sure - it's more efficient, but it's still a lot better even at an idle than
just jumping in the car.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
Trevor Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > In Ottawa, our capitol, there are thousands and thousands of snakes...
>
> And weasels. Don't forget the weasels.
>
> Cheers
> Trevor Jones
Lemme see...snakes..mmm...pondscum..YES, of course! Weasels!!
*slaps self* How could I forget to mention them... (btw, those are the
ones who are NOT working for a record company...)
In article <[email protected]>,
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:VVTTf.12908$bu.749@trnddc04...
> > Oleg Lego wrote:
> >
> >> A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
> >> frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
> >> seat heaters already going.
> >
> > Easier to move south :)
>
> But then you get snakes! <G>
>
> LLoyd
In Ottawa, our capitol, there are thousands and thousands of snakes...
"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Leon entity posted thusly:
>
> I can't speak for stryped's car or brand of remote starter, but any
> well designed one will have all sorts of safeguards against this sort
> of thing. They pretty much have to be well designed in this day of
> litigious actions for virtually every little thing.
Agreed.
>
> The one on my wife's car, for example, cannot be moved after starting
> the engine remotely until the key has been placed into the ignition
> switch and turned to the 'ON' position.
Sounds reasonable.
>
> With the motor running after remote starting, you cannot place the
> transmission (automatic) into gear without pressing the brake pedal.
> Pressing the brake pedal before inserting and turning the key will
> cause the engine to shut off immediately.
Cool
>
> A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
> frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
> seat heaters already going.
So uh you can do like us in the South and simply go out there, start the
car, and then go back inside? ;~)
How hard is it to start the car from inside the house? I am for ever
accidentally unarming my car alarm when the change in my pocket pushes on a
button. That would be kinda tough on a car engine idling all night long.
On 3/21/2006 10:34 PM Edwin Pawlowski mumbled something about the following:
> "*" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> 1.) Where is the
>> tree-hugger/save-the-earth/environmentally-conscious-left-wing out
>> cry?????
>>> 2.) Engines warm up faster and more evenly under load than just idling.
>
>> People who use remote starters probably NEVER think about the cold
>> transmission/differential/transaxle. The engine's warm, so let's head on
>> up
>> the highway at 70 mph.
>
> Some of us are very aware of the situation. Two miles from my house to the
> highway.
>
>
>> 3.) Allowing ANY engine to idle for long periods contaminates the oil,
>> washes down the oil film on the cylinder walls, etc......MORE wear and
>> tear
>> on the engine - just to avoid a little cold air - and a little exercise
>> scraping the window and sweeping off the snow.
>
> While you make some good points, I'm still getting a remote starter in my
> new car. Yep, I don't like freezing my ass of for the first five minutes of
> my 35 minute commute. In winter, my overall mileage drops about 2 mpg for
> the warm up time I do. The remote just saves me from running out and
> starting the car while I come back into the house to finish my tea.
I thought about the remote starter thing, but my vehicle has no heater,
but I do have air condition (I get the air in any condition it comes
in). EFI makes it simple, start it up and go, no warm up needed.
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The * entity posted thusly:
>
>
>Oleg Lego <[email protected]> wrote in article
><[email protected]>...
>> The Leon entity posted thusly:
>>
>> Ours has a 'winter mode', for when you are parked in a lot that has no
>> plug-ins (yes, we plug our block heaters in during the winter). What
>> it does is start the car periodically, and each time, runs it for a
>> predetermined time. This keeps the oil from getting to the consistency
>> of restaurant butter.
>>
>>
>
>Up in Maine, we use a system that we fondly refer to as, "Regular Oil
>Changes" that helps keep the "restaurant butter" out of our
>crankcases......
Yeah, it's easy for you guys in the tropics. :-)
The Leon entity posted thusly:
>
>"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> x no archive: yup
Above line disabled.
>>
>> It starts my truck for me when I want via remote. It is helpful when
>> there is frost because my wife parks in the garage and my truck wont
>> fit too because of all my tools!
>> Leon wrote:
>So you trust your vehicle to not take off accidentally? And yes, I know it
>should not happen but what if, the doors were unlocked or the windows were
>down and a kid got in side. Having retired from the automotive industry I
>have seen a lot of situations where vehicles left unattended ended up in an
>accident.
I can't speak for stryped's car or brand of remote starter, but any
well designed one will have all sorts of safeguards against this sort
of thing. They pretty much have to be well designed in this day of
litigious actions for virtually every little thing.
The one on my wife's car, for example, cannot be moved after starting
the engine remotely until the key has been placed into the ignition
switch and turned to the 'ON' position.
With the motor running after remote starting, you cannot place the
transmission (automatic) into gear without pressing the brake pedal.
Pressing the brake pedal before inserting and turning the key will
cause the engine to shut off immediately.
A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
seat heaters already going.
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:55:16 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> >'67 T-bird, best car I ever had. But then, the first car you ever owned
>was
>> >always the best.
>> >
>> 59 Studebaker Lark VI? Nope. It was great because it got me off the 1
>> hour school bus ride (one way). But best car? Nah.
>
>You don't remember the thrill of the first time you actually owned and drove
>the first car that was all yours? I do.
I was certainly thrilled to have my own car and drive it. But while that
was exciting, I don't look back and say, "that was the best car I ever
had".
> While there were later cars that
>handled better and were faster, the first one had its own particular thrill.
I agree with the certain thrill part, just not the "best"
>Almost like sex.
>
>(I said almost, not that it was)
>
... ain't goin' that far. ;-)
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"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:VVTTf.12908$bu.749@trnddc04...
> Oleg Lego wrote:
>
>> A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
>> frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
>> seat heaters already going.
>
> Easier to move south :)
But then you get snakes! <G>
LLoyd
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:32 GMT, Nick Hull <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> Gunner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >What purpose does a remote starter serve?
>> >
>> It prevents you from being killed by an explosive based mob hit.
>>
>> Unless they wire it to the headlight switch or the back up lights
>
>Professionals don't use electric caps, they wrap a fuse around the
>exhaust manifold which will light up at high speed. If you survive the
>boom you still have to survive the crash ;)
Ah! thats not one Ive seen before. Very good!
Gunner
"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The Leon entity posted thusly:
>>
>> I can't speak for stryped's car or brand of remote starter,
>> but any
>> well designed one will have all sorts of safeguards against
>> this sort
>> of thing. They pretty much have to be well designed in this
>> day of
>> litigious actions for virtually every little thing.
>
> Agreed.
>
>>
>> The one on my wife's car, for example, cannot be moved after
>> starting
>> the engine remotely until the key has been placed into the
>> ignition
>> switch and turned to the 'ON' position.
>
> Sounds reasonable.
>>
>> With the motor running after remote starting, you cannot place
>> the
>> transmission (automatic) into gear without pressing the brake
>> pedal.
>> Pressing the brake pedal before inserting and turning the key
>> will
>> cause the engine to shut off immediately.
>
> Cool
>>
>> A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in
>> the
>> frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with
>> the
>> seat heaters already going.
>
> So uh you can do like us in the South and simply go out there,
> start the car, and then go back inside? ;~)
>
> How hard is it to start the car from inside the house? I am
> for ever accidentally unarming my car alarm when the change in
> my pocket pushes on a button. That would be kinda tough on a
> car engine idling all night long.
>
>
>
>
>
They automatically stop after a predetermined amount of time.
Mine's set at ten minutes, just enough to keep the battery topped
off.
In article <[email protected]>,
Gunner <[email protected]> wrote:
> >What purpose does a remote starter serve?
> >
> It prevents you from being killed by an explosive based mob hit.
>
> Unless they wire it to the headlight switch or the back up lights
Professionals don't use electric caps, they wrap a fuse around the
exhaust manifold which will light up at high speed. If you survive the
boom you still have to survive the crash ;)
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:55:16 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> >
>> 59 Studebaker Lark VI? Nope. It was great because it got me off the 1
>> hour school bus ride (one way). But best car? Nah.
>
>You don't remember the thrill of the first time you actually owned and drove
>the first car that was all yours? I do. While there were later cars that
>handled better and were faster, the first one had its own particular thrill.
>Almost like sex.
>
>(I said almost, not that it was)
>
65 Rambler station wagon..EVERY seat in it folded flat.
I had a LOT of sex in that old beasty.
232 ci, tilt a wheel and if you turned on the air conditioner you
would go face first into the steering wheel from the sudden slow down
of the engine
Gunner
"The importance of morality is that people behave themselves even if
nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace
personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed,
the police and criminal justice system are the last desperate line of
defense for a civilized society. Unfortunately, too many of us see
police, laws and the criminal justice system as society's first line
of defense." --Walter Williams
Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Gunner <[email protected]>
wrote on Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:40:58 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
>On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:11:03 GMT, "Leon"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> x-no-archive:yes
>>>
>>> I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
>>> company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
>>> It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
>>> page.
>>>
>>> Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
>>> of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
>>>
>>What purpose does a remote starter serve?
>>
>It prevents you from being killed by an explosive based mob hit.
>
>Unless they wire it to the headlight switch or the back up lights
Brakes might work too. Or the horn. (When I was in Egypt, I learned
that a lot of the taxis had chirping bird horns wired into the brake
lights. Step on the brakes and birds start chirping. "Cool," I thought,
after I was pulled out of the street by Rafti and he then explained the
practice.)
Of course, I recall placing ... never mind :-)
tschus
pyotr
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pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>
> Sure - it's more efficient, but it's still a lot better even at an idle
> than
> just jumping in the car.
Maybe up North. ;~)
Robatoy wrote:
> Lemme see...snakes..mmm...pondscum..YES, of course! Weasels!!
> *slaps self* How could I forget to mention them... (btw, those are the
> ones who are NOT working for a record company...)
Don't forget skunks and leeches. Or are they just in Washington?
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The Leon entity posted thusly:
>
>"Oleg Lego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The Leon entity posted thusly:
>>
>> A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
>> frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
>> seat heaters already going.
>
>So uh you can do like us in the South and simply go out there, start the
>car, and then go back inside? ;~)
Does it get to -30 in the south very often?
>How hard is it to start the car from inside the house? I am for ever
>accidentally unarming my car alarm when the change in my pocket pushes on a
>button. That would be kinda tough on a car engine idling all night long.
Not very hard. I have often locked/unlocked her car with the original
remote, but have yet to unintentionally lock/unlock/alarm/start the
car with the remote for the starter. Better design, I think.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I installed a remote starter myself and the results are posted on the
> company's website where I bought the remote starter. www.MRINSTALL.com
> It is on a 1996 Chevy Silverado truck. The link is half way down the
> page.
>
> Just wanted to see what you thought. Be easy. I am not an expert at all
> of this. This was my first time installing something like this.
>
What purpose does a remote starter serve?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It automatically turns on his dust collection system everytime
> SWMBO goes shopping.
>
NOW I am getting some good answers, LOL
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>
> Yeah - but that's where I am. That engine running time really earns its
> keep more in the winter though.
Yeah I'll agree. The heater works better with the car setting still.
"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
night long.
In the summer it's handy to
> jump into an already cooled down car.
LOL.. Maybe in the North. If you lived in the South where it really gets
hot you would soon learn that an automobile has to be moving for the air
conditioning to work properly or efficiently. IIRC My remote will roll down
the windows.
"Gunner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:11:03 GMT, "Leon"
>>
> It prevents you from being killed by an explosive based mob hit.
>
> Unless they wire it to the headlight switch or the back up lights
Good to know. ;~)
"Nick Hull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> Professionals don't use electric caps, they wrap a fuse around the
> exhaust manifold which will light up at high speed. If you survive the
> boom you still have to survive the crash ;)
Humm. I suspect that Most professionals wire the car to explode when the
key is turned. Most professionals that do this kind of stuff work in the
entertainment industry. :~)
> >
> > A remote starter is a marvellous invention for those of us in the
> > frozen north, who would much rather enter a warmed-up car with the
> > seat heaters already going.
>
> So uh you can do like us in the South and simply go out there, start the
> car, and then go back inside? ;~)
Ever try to open your doors when they're frozen shut?
>
> How hard is it to start the car from inside the house? I am for ever
> accidentally unarming my car alarm when the change in my pocket pushes on
a
> button. That would be kinda tough on a car engine idling all night long.
>
If the keys aren't put in within a few minutes, the car shuts off.