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Dan_Musicant

13/11/2005 2:41 PM

Anti-fog for glasses that works

When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
marketed by:

Palantic Products
1258 Howard Street
San Francisco 3, California

Of course, a Google search on the product name or company turns up
nothing.

It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color, square cross
section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5" long. My piece
is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty damn well. I
figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle of what
purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it sure doesn't
work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
some recommendations? Thanks.

Dan


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"CW"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 5:02 PM

The stuff was around for a long time and at the same price. I bought one of
these pink sticks at a county fair, for $1.00, about 1980. Sure worked.

"James "Cubby" Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
> > expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
> > He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
> > crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
> > glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
> > Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
> > resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
> > marketed by:
> >
> > Palantic Products
> > 1258 Howard Street
> > San Francisco 3, California
> >
> > Of course, a Google search on the product name or company turns up
> > nothing.
> >
> > It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color, square cross
> > section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5" long. My piece
> > is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty damn well. I
> > figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle of what
> > purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it sure doesn't
> > work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
> > up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
> > some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> > some recommendations? Thanks.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> Hit a dive shop. Not sure of a specific brand as I don't have the bottle
> in front of me, but we would spray our masks with this stuff and no fog.
> Another solution and one that probably won't work out of the water is to
> spit on them. Rub it around and voila, no fog! Seriously though, the
> dive shops should have something for you.....
> Cheers,
> cc
>
>

md

mac davis

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 11:44 AM

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:17:16 -0600, Duane Bozarth <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Dan_Musicant wrote:
>>
>> When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
>> expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
>> He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
>> crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
>> glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
>> Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
>> resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
>> marketed by:
>>
>> Palantic Products
>> 1258 Howard Street
>> San Francisco 3, California
>>
>> Of course, a Google search on the product name or company turns up
>> nothing.
>>
>> It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color, square cross
>> section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5" long. My piece
>> is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty damn well. I
>> figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle of what
>> purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it sure doesn't
>> work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
>> up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>
>> Dan
>
>Rain-X works fairly effectively for me...

Duane.. I'm guessing that you're talking about Rain-x anti fog, not the regular
glass wax type, but the OP might not know the anti fog exists..
(I didn't, until I ran out of rain-x once and they only had a 2 bottle "kit")


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 5:17 PM

mac davis wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:17:16 -0600, Duane Bozarth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Dan_Musicant wrote:
>>>
>>> When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
>>> expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
>>> He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
>>> crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
>>> glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
>>> Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
>>> resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
>>> marketed by:
>>>
>>> Palantic Products
>>> 1258 Howard Street
>>> San Francisco 3, California
>>>
>>> Of course, a Google search on the product name or company turns up
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color, square cross
>>> section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5" long. My piece
>>> is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty damn well. I
>>> figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle of what
>>> purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it sure doesn't
>>> work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
>>> up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>>Rain-X works fairly effectively for me...
>
> Duane.. I'm guessing that you're talking about Rain-x anti fog, not the regular
> glass wax type, but the OP might not know the anti fog exists..
> (I didn't, until I ran out of rain-x once and they only had a 2 bottle "kit")
>
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing

Back in the 60's I saw a woman in the ER whose husband had beaten her
up. He sold anti-fog spray, and she was so mad she gave us the recipe.
Soap, dissolved in rubbing alcohol. You mist it on and wipe until dry.
It works on bathroom mirrors but I can't vouch for anything else.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

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"Jeff Gorman"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/11/2005 8:28 AM


"Don Klipstein" <[email protected]> wrote

> ........................ most papers have fine particles of
> abrasive ingredients that can put fine scratches even on glass.
>
> I have found Bounty paper towels not as bad as other paper products. I
> have also found T-shirts better still and quite acceptable, although I am
> sure T-shirts are not the best cloth.

Many years ago I was told by a camera repairer that a well-washed
handkerchief with soap was the safest material to use for lenses. This was
in the time when the only blooming on lenses ocurred through a natural
process.

Jeff G

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s

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/11/2005 12:54 AM

Dan,

Not sure if this is the same stuff, but a few years ago I got a
cleaning kit for eyeglasses at an outdoor sporting goods store called
"REI". It came with a polishing cloth and a block of this pink colored
waxy/rubbery stuff, similar to what you described.

Regards,

MB

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

15/11/2005 1:54 AM

James "Cubby" Culbertson wrote:

> >
> Hit a dive shop. Not sure of a specific brand as I don't have the bottle
> in front of me, but we would spray our masks with this stuff and no fog.
> Another solution and one that probably won't work out of the water is to
> spit on them. Rub it around and voila, no fog! Seriously though, the
> dive shops should have something for you.....

If memory serves, wiping a raw potato on, and then off with a cotton
cloth, works. Given the price of potatoes today, using one of the
fancier high end mixes is probably cheaper.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

18/12/2005 7:35 AM

"Howard Beale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "David Combs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Sgt. Sausage <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>>Surely, there are
> >>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I
get
> >>> some recommendations? Thanks.
> >>
> >>Cat Crap.
> >>
> >>http://www.catcrap.com/
> >>
> >>Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
> >>web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
> >>I go through one about every year. Works well
> >>for me.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Amazingly, that web-site *does* exist!
> >
> > Whether "real" or not, I have no idea...
>
> I haven't seen a ski resort yet that doesn't sell cat crap. It's the
only
> thing that keeps my glasses from fogging in my goggles.
>
>
Borrowed from a list I'm on. I tried the recipe and it works real good.

"I have got to start by saying I own an optical shop in St. Louis,
that
specializes in Sport glasses- Hunting shooting, Fishing Skiing. 9 If you
go
to fieldandstream.com and then go to the gear section, search for an
article" See the light" that's my shop

I you take an empty clean gallon milk jug and fill it with 3 pints of
70%
isopropyl rubbing alcohol, then 1/2 tablespoon of regular dish soap,
then
fill the rest with water. you now have a gallon of lense cleaner for
about a
dollar. get those spray bottle at the dollar general store for what 59
cents?"




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in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/12/2005 8:05 PM


"David Combs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Sgt. Sausage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>Surely, there are
>>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>
>>Cat Crap.
>>
>>http://www.catcrap.com/
>>
>>Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
>>web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
>>I go through one about every year. Works well
>>for me.
>>
>>
>
> Amazingly, that web-site *does* exist!
>
> Whether "real" or not, I have no idea...

I haven't seen a ski resort yet that doesn't sell cat crap. It's the only
thing that keeps my glasses from fogging in my goggles.

SM

SoCalMike

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

16/12/2005 1:06 AM

Howard Beale wrote:
> "David Combs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Sgt. Sausage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Surely, there are
>>>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>> Cat Crap.
>>>
>>> http://www.catcrap.com/
>>>
>>> Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
>>> web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
>>> I go through one about every year. Works well
>>> for me.
>>>
>>>
>> Amazingly, that web-site *does* exist!
>>
>> Whether "real" or not, I have no idea...
>
> I haven't seen a ski resort yet that doesn't sell cat crap. It's the only
> thing that keeps my glasses from fogging in my goggles.
>
>

so i imagine a place like sportmart, sport chalet, REI, or any plce that
sells ski equipment would have it?

SS

"Sgt. Sausage"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

15/11/2005 3:58 AM


"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>Surely, there are
> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> some recommendations? Thanks.

Cat Crap.

http://www.catcrap.com/

Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
I go through one about every year. Works well
for me.

Pp

Piper

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

17/12/2005 9:57 AM

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:21:42 -0700, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>> Surely, there are
>>>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Cat Crap.
>>>
>>> http://www.catcrap.com/
>>>
>>> Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
>>> web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
>>> I go through one about every year. Works well
>>> for me.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Amazingly, that web-site *does* exist!
>>
>> Whether "real" or not, I have no idea...
>>
>>
>
>Oddly enough, dog slobber works quite well. The only parts of my truck
>windshield that don't fog up in the morning are the areas smeared with dog
>slobber.
>
>-Bruce

ROFLOL!

--
Piper

Js

"Janie"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/12/2005 10:06 PM


"Howard Beale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "David Combs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Sgt. Sausage <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>>Surely, there are
> >>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> >>> some recommendations? Thanks.
> >>
> >>Cat Crap.
> >>
> >>http://www.catcrap.com/
> >>
> >>Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
> >>web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
> >>I go through one about every year. Works well
> >>for me.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Amazingly, that web-site *does* exist!
> >
> > Whether "real" or not, I have no idea...
>
> I haven't seen a ski resort yet that doesn't sell cat crap. It's the only
> thing that keeps my glasses from fogging in my goggles.
>
I bought a bottle of stuff at Wal-Mart, $1.65 that works just fine for my
glasses The bottle says Magnivision-Miramar, FL but made in Taiwan This is
a small bottle that is just the right for a shirt or coat pocket, a purse,
or maybe a desk drawer. It has a spray top and can be used on glass or
plastic lenses.
There may be less expensive products but this was easy to find and offered
the type of bottle that I wanted. There is no ingredients list on the
product.

DH

Dave Hall

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

15/11/2005 2:42 PM

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:41:47 GMT, Dan_Musicant <[email protected]>
wrote:

>When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
>expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
>He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
>crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
>glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
>Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
>resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
>marketed by:
>
>Palantic Products
>1258 Howard Street
>San Francisco 3, California
>
>Of course, a Google search on the product name or company turns up
>nothing.
>
>It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color, square cross
>section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5" long. My piece
>is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty damn well. I
>figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle of what
>purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it sure doesn't
>work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
>up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>some recommendations? Thanks.
>
>Dan
>
If you only used 60% of it in 45 to 50 years, why do you think the
other 40% is going to be used up "some day soon"? ;-)

By my calculations you must be in your early to mid 60s (teenager in
50's) so you should be in your 90s before using that 1" piece up :-)

Jn

~^Johnny^~

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/11/2005 9:54 AM

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:18:19 -0500, JR-jred <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The stuff you're thinking of is glycerine. You can buy a bar of it at
>any drug store. It works great.

Glycerine (glycyl alcohol) is a liquid at room temperature.

You must be referring to a bar of glycering soap.

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Duane Bozarth

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 9:17 AM

Dan_Musicant wrote:
>
> When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
> expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
> He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
> crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
> glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
> Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
> resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
> marketed by:
>
> Palantic Products
> 1258 Howard Street
> San Francisco 3, California
>
> Of course, a Google search on the product name or company turns up
> nothing.
>
> It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color, square cross
> section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5" long. My piece
> is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty damn well. I
> figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle of what
> purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it sure doesn't
> work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
> up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> some recommendations? Thanks.
>
> Dan

Rain-X works fairly effectively for me...

gP

"glenn P"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

21/11/2005 6:45 AM

Ditto, in fact a lot of people claim its "lint-free", which it of course, is
not...


"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Henry Criss wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>
>>>For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>>>some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>>some recommendations? Thanks.
>>>
>>>Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> Any liquid disk soap or any soap for that matter (i.e. "DAWN- a
>> surfactant ) can be used as a anti-fogging agent. Just rub a very small
>> amount on the surface and then polish it clear with a soft cloth or paper
>> ( coffee filters can be used- they are the purest paper you can buy)
>> Try it on a bathroom mirror.
>
> I don't think there are any special manufacturing steps that are used to
> make coffee filters that would make them the purest paper you can buy.
>
>
>>
>> I remember when the space program was gearing up here in Houston Texas, a
>> local man was selling NASA these little pill bottle sizes containers of
>> anti-fogging gel compound for $35 a bottle. Astronauts used it on the
>> inside of the spacesuits face mask. In reality this local man was buying
>> liquid dish washing detergent and cooking it down to a gel and sell it to
>> NASA.
>>
>> I use it inside my welding hood and cutting goggles, at work. At home I
>> just rub drop of liquid hand soap on the bathroom mirror and rub it
>> clean. Try it.
>>
>> Henry

Bb

Bruce

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

17/12/2005 8:21 AM

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:19:04 -0700, David Combs wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Sgt. Sausage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> "Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Surely, there are
>>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>
>> Cat Crap.
>>
>> http://www.catcrap.com/
>>
>> Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
>> web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
>> I go through one about every year. Works well
>> for me.
>>
>>
>
> Amazingly, that web-site *does* exist!
>
> Whether "real" or not, I have no idea...
>
>

Oddly enough, dog slobber works quite well. The only parts of my truck
windshield that don't fog up in the morning are the areas smeared with dog
slobber.

-Bruce

BL

Barry Lennox

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/11/2005 7:34 AM

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:41:47 GMT, Dan_Musicant <[email protected]>
wrote:

>When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
>expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.

snip


>some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>some recommendations? Thanks.


Shaving gel works well, apply a tiny knob and rub it around well until
it appears to vanish.

Or, even cheaper, but not so effective, a dobble of spit!

Barry Lennox

CG

"Capt. Geoffry Thorpe"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 6:14 PM

"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
...>
> work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
> up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> some recommendations? Thanks.
>
> Dan
>
>

Dunno about the stuff for your glasses, but when you are using a dust mask -
I use the 3M 9211 masks that have a exhale valve and a good seal around the
nose. I've _never_ had my glasses fog up with one of these. I get them from
www.jamestowndistributors.com If memory serves correctly, they are less
than a couple bucks a pop. You can probably find them locally with a little
effort...

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Henry Criss

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 4:40 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> some recommendations? Thanks.
>
> Dan


Any liquid disk soap or any soap for that matter (i.e. "DAWN- a
surfactant ) can be used as a anti-fogging agent. Just rub a very small
amount on the surface and then polish it clear with a soft cloth or paper
( coffee filters can be used- they are the purest paper you can buy)
Try it on a bathroom mirror.

I remember when the space program was gearing up here in Houston Texas, a
local man was selling NASA these little pill bottle sizes containers of
anti-fogging gel compound for $35 a bottle. Astronauts used it on the
inside of the spacesuits face mask.

In reality this local man was buying liquid dish washing detergent and
cooking it down to a gel and sell it to NASA.

I use it inside my welding hood and cutting goggles, at work. At home I
just rub drop of liquid hand soap on the bathroom mirror and rub it
clean.

Try it.

Henry

JP

Joshua Putnam

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 5:15 PM


Personally, I take a microfiber cleaning cloth, soak it in diluted
dish soap, and let it dry. Wipes away fog, cleans the glasses well
without scratching them, and leaves just the right soap film to
prevent fogging without looking smeared when wet. Works great for
bicycling in the rain.

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Gg

George

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/11/2005 7:56 AM

Henry Criss wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>
>>For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>>some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>some recommendations? Thanks.
>>
>>Dan
>
>
>
> Any liquid disk soap or any soap for that matter (i.e. "DAWN- a
> surfactant ) can be used as a anti-fogging agent. Just rub a very small
> amount on the surface and then polish it clear with a soft cloth or paper
> ( coffee filters can be used- they are the purest paper you can buy)
> Try it on a bathroom mirror.

I don't think there are any special manufacturing steps that are used to
make coffee filters that would make them the purest paper you can buy.


>
> I remember when the space program was gearing up here in Houston Texas, a
> local man was selling NASA these little pill bottle sizes containers of
> anti-fogging gel compound for $35 a bottle. Astronauts used it on the
> inside of the spacesuits face mask.
>
> In reality this local man was buying liquid dish washing detergent and
> cooking it down to a gel and sell it to NASA.
>
> I use it inside my welding hood and cutting goggles, at work. At home I
> just rub drop of liquid hand soap on the bathroom mirror and rub it
> clean.
>
> Try it.
>
> Henry

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

18/12/2005 7:04 AM


"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> Oddly enough, dog slobber works quite well. The only parts of my truck
> windshield that don't fog up in the morning are the areas smeared with dog
> slobber.
>
> -Bruce
>

Not really so odd Bruce. Human slobber will work just as well. A time
honored trick of scuba divers is to spit inside their mask and to smear it
around before going under. It prevents fogging. I caution you not to
pursue every trick of scuba divers in the wood shop, though. There is this
concept referred to off hand as the "we suit warmer" that you probably don't
want to consider in the shop...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 11:37 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Dan_Musicant <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
> up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> some recommendations? Thanks.

Rather than treat the fog, treat the source.
Get dust masks that have an exhaust valve at the bottom. Any safety
supply will be able to help you. You just worry about dust getting into
your pipes--you don't care what happens to the stuff you breathe out,
right? (Unlike medical people.)
The regular ones blow air up past your nose, as you exhale, onto your
glasses. Is that your problem?

dD

[email protected] (David Combs)

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/12/2005 11:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Sgt. Sausage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>Surely, there are
>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>
>Cat Crap.
>
>http://www.catcrap.com/
>
>Costs about 2 bucks -- ignore the price on that
>web site. You don't need the whole cleaning kit.
>I go through one about every year. Works well
>for me.
>
>

Amazingly, that web-site *does* exist!

Whether "real" or not, I have no idea...

Kk

KMP

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 6:33 PM

Barry Lennox wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:41:47 GMT, Dan_Musicant <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
>>expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
>
>
> snip
>
>
>
>>some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>some recommendations? Thanks.
>
>
>
> Shaving gel works well, apply a tiny knob and rub it around well until
> it appears to vanish.
>
> Or, even cheaper, but not so effective, a dobble of spit!
>
> Barry Lennox
That's what my scuba instructor in St. Thomas said they use on dive
masks...And he joked that's what they do when they retire - make the
sprays for dive masks....

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 11:55 AM

When I purchased my last pair of spec, my optical shop gave me a dropper
bottle with a solution that worked pretty well. The label has worn off but
try a local shop.

Jn

~^Johnny^~

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 7:37 PM

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 08:43:19 -0700, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hit a dive shop. Not sure of a specific brand as I don't have the bottle
>in front of me,

When I hit a dive, I always have a bottle in front of me.

--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info

Jj

JR-jred

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

15/11/2005 7:55 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
~^Johnny^~ <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:18:19 -0500, JR-jred <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >The stuff you're thinking of is glycerine. You can buy a bar of it at
> >any drug store. It works great.
>
> Glycerine (glycyl alcohol) is a liquid at room temperature.
>
> You must be referring to a bar of glycering soap.
>
> --
> -john
> wide-open at throttle dot info
>
> ~~~~~~~~
> The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining
> - JFK
> ~~~~~~~~

Yup. Left out a word. Glycerie soap at a buck or so for a bar works
great. Rub a little on each side of the lens and polish it off. No fog
for the rest of the day.

--
JR
Hung like Einstein and smart as a horse

Jj

JR-jred

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/11/2005 7:18 AM

The stuff you're thinking of is glycerine. You can buy a bar of it at
any drug store. It works great.

--
JR
Hung like Einstein and smart as a horse

Bb

"Bob"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 4:49 PM


"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some
kind of indoor
> expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an
anti-fog product.
> He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show,
and there was a
> crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product
which kept
> glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to
steam.
> Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but
I couldn't
> resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu
Clear-X and was
> marketed by:
>
> Palantic Products
> 1258 Howard Street
> San Francisco 3, California
>
> Of course, a Google search on the product name or company
turns up
> nothing.
>
> It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color,
square cross
> section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5"
long. My piece
> is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty
damn well. I
> figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle
of what
> purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it
sure doesn't
> work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my
glasses fog
> up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles.
Surely, there are
> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this.
Can I get
> some recommendations? Thanks.

Any bar of soap?

Bob

Gf

"Gazoo"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 5:45 PM

http://www.catcrap.com/


"Henry Criss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>
>> Dan
>
>
> Any liquid disk soap or any soap for that matter (i.e. "DAWN- a
> surfactant ) can be used as a anti-fogging agent. Just rub a very small
> amount on the surface and then polish it clear with a soft cloth or paper
> ( coffee filters can be used- they are the purest paper you can buy)
> Try it on a bathroom mirror.
>
> I remember when the space program was gearing up here in Houston Texas, a
> local man was selling NASA these little pill bottle sizes containers of
> anti-fogging gel compound for $35 a bottle. Astronauts used it on the
> inside of the spacesuits face mask.
>
> In reality this local man was buying liquid dish washing detergent and
> cooking it down to a gel and sell it to NASA.
>
> I use it inside my welding hood and cutting goggles, at work. At home I
> just rub drop of liquid hand soap on the bathroom mirror and rub it
> clean.
>
> Try it.
>
> Henry

Wn

Wooly

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 3:17 PM

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:41:47 GMT, Dan_Musicant <[email protected]>
spewed forth :

>When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
>expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
>He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
>crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
>glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
>Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
>resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
>marketed by:
>

I use Rain-X (probably the stuff you have and don't like) on my glass
lenses, but I don't put anything on the expen$$ive polycarbs that have
AR/AUV coating.

Then again, I live in a climate in which the most common reason for
fogging glasses is the transition from air conditioning to 99F and 95%
humidity. That sort of fogging clears pretty quickly if one is
willing to fan one's face for a few seconds.

+++++++++++++

Reply to the list as I do not publish an email address to USENET.
This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%.
Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email account...

TR

The Real Bev

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 3:39 PM

Henry Criss wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>
> Any liquid disk soap or any soap for that matter (i.e. "DAWN- a
> surfactant ) can be used as a anti-fogging agent. Just rub a very small
> amount on the surface and then polish it clear with a soft cloth or paper
> ( coffee filters can be used- they are the purest paper you can buy)
> Try it on a bathroom mirror.

This works fine on ski goggles, too. If you're not careful to make sure that
everything is clean you can end up with some nice scratches, though. The
glass/plastic in glasses is generally very soft.

I also have a Scott anti-fog cloth (yard sale) which seems to work pretty
well. It's a piece of double-sided cotton flannel (or something a lot like
it) that feels funny. Breathe on your glasses and rub them with the cloth.
Perhaps wetting some old pajama cloth with diluted Dawn would work just as well.

> I remember when the space program was gearing up here in Houston Texas, a
> local man was selling NASA these little pill bottle sizes containers of
> anti-fogging gel compound for $35 a bottle. Astronauts used it on the
> inside of the spacesuits face mask.
>
> In reality this local man was buying liquid dish washing detergent and
> cooking it down to a gel and sell it to NASA.

Our tax money at work. Hey, it's not like it's rocket science.

> I use it inside my welding hood and cutting goggles, at work. At home I
> just rub drop of liquid hand soap on the bathroom mirror and rub it
> clean.
--
Cheers,
Bev
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"If the Eskimos have a thousand different words for "snow," does this
mean the French have a thousand different words for "surrender?"

dD

[email protected] (Don Klipstein)

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

14/11/2005 3:53 AM

In article <[email protected]>, The Real Bev wrote:
>Henry Criss wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>> For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
>>> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
>>> some recommendations? Thanks.
>>
>> Any liquid disk soap or any soap for that matter (i.e. "DAWN- a
>> surfactant ) can be used as a anti-fogging agent. Just rub a very small
>> amount on the surface and then polish it clear with a soft cloth or paper
>> ( coffee filters can be used- they are the purest paper you can buy)
>> Try it on a bathroom mirror.
>
>This works fine on ski goggles, too. If you're not careful to make sure that
>everything is clean you can end up with some nice scratches, though. The
>glass/plastic in glasses is generally very soft.

Sounds like plastic. Maybe it's thermoplastic polycarbonate - tough in
many ways, but scratched a lot more easily than glass. (So is cast
polycarbonate, which unlike injection-molded vs. cast acrylic, is *not*
basically the same stuff.) Then again, most papers have fine particles of
abrasive ingredients that can put fine scratches even on glass.

I have found Bounty paper towels not as bad as other paper products. I
have also found T-shirts better still and quite acceptable, although I am
sure T-shirts are not the best cloth.

I did not do this for anti-fog treatment, just for cleaning.

- Don Klipstein ([email protected])

JC

"James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"

in reply to Dan_Musicant on 13/11/2005 2:41 PM

13/11/2005 8:43 AM


"Dan_Musicant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When I was a teenager back in the 1950's I attended some kind of indoor
> expo in Hollywood, CA and came upon a guy hawking an anti-fog product.
> He was like a snake oil salesman at a country side show, and there was a
> crowd around him as he demonstrated this amazing product which kept
> glasses, mirrors, etc from fogging up even when exposed to steam.
> Ordinarily I've always been wary of scenes like that, but I couldn't
> resist buying this thing for $1. The stuff was called Nu Clear-X and was
> marketed by:
>
> Palantic Products
> 1258 Howard Street
> San Francisco 3, California
>
> Of course, a Google search on the product name or company turns up
> nothing.
>
> It's a piece of what looks like wax, and pink in color, square cross
> section, 3/4" on the side and was originally about 2.5" long. My piece
> is now down to just under 1" long. This stuff works pretty damn well. I
> figure I'll run out some day soon. I have a spray bottle of what
> purports to be an antifog and anti-static solution but it sure doesn't
> work as an antifog. Sometimes I really need to not have my glasses fog
> up. For instance, when wearing a dust mask or goggles. Surely, there are
> some products (or maybe home remedies) that work for this. Can I get
> some recommendations? Thanks.
>
> Dan
>
>
Hit a dive shop. Not sure of a specific brand as I don't have the bottle
in front of me, but we would spray our masks with this stuff and no fog.
Another solution and one that probably won't work out of the water is to
spit on them. Rub it around and voila, no fog! Seriously though, the
dive shops should have something for you.....
Cheers,
cc


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